What tyres do USPS use?

I think that I read that they use Hutchinson's. I am almost certain that they don't use tyres, or
chainsets. They use tires and cranksets :-)

AndresMuro said:

I think that I read that they use Hutchinson's. I am almost certain that they don't use tyres, or
chainsets. They use tires and cranksets :-)

Hutchinson is a USPS team sponsor so it would seem likely:

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(AndresMuro) said:

I think that I read that they use Hutchinson's. I am almost certain that they don't use tyres, or
chainsets. They use tires and cranksets :-)

That depends on what part of the world you're standing in. In most parts, for example, components
are made from an aluminium alloy.... :-3)

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Hi,

Anyone know what tyres Lance and the rest of the USPS team use?

Thanks

Doesn't matter, I tried the same tyres as the pro's a couple of years back, but I didn't go any
faster. The fine print on the packaging said you need the motor as well as the tyres.

You're welcome

Ritch.

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(AndresMuro) said:

I think that I read that they use Hutchinson's. I am almost certain that they don't use tyres, or
chainsets. They use tires and cranksets :-)

That depends on what part of the world you're standing in. In most parts, for example, components
are made from an aluminium alloy.... :-3)

Hmm. [censored], you've got a point. German and French both use that spelling, as do the Brits.
Italian's closer to that than it is to ours.

It still sounds silliy to my ears, though. (And a billion is still 10e9, not 10e12.)

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Originally posted by Spooky
Hi,

Anyone know what tyres Lance and the rest of the USPS team use?

Thanks

....not the Hutchinsons they're sponsored to use.
There's a story on it somewhere in the tech section at Velonews.
They just stick hutchinsons patches over the other manufacturers tubulars.

nicholas206gti said:

...not the Hutchinsons they're sponsored to use. There's a story on it somewhere in the tech
section at Velonews. They just stick hutchinsons patches over the other manufacturers tubulars.

That sounded odd to me but sure enough, a little searching and here it is:

velonews.com4588.0.htmlOpen ↗

Michael, in my estimation, about 90 percent of the peloton uses tubular tires in
competition. CSC mechanic Craig Geater told me that his team mostly trains on clinchers, but
races on tubulars. [...] Even more interesting was the number of teams using tubular tires
bearing brands of companies that don't make tubular tires. Although it's never done in
public, some tire manufacturers (and saddle makers as well) have portable hot-patch machines
that roll their logos onto a competitor's blacked-out tires. For example, Hutchinson doesn't
make a tubular, but Hutchinson-supported teams all sported "Hutchinson" tires - even though
most of the tires I saw were Vittoria Pro CXs.

Note that it does not mention USPS specificially but it does mention Hutchinson. Apparently Quick
Step, Saeco, CSC and Once are Hutchinson teams (based upon Hutchinson's web site). I also can't find
a tubular on the Hutchinson web site. I wonder if Michelin does the same thing given that they also
don't make a tubular that I can find?

The Vittoria CX isn't even slick tire. I would think the pros would want a slick.

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Werehatrack said:

It still sounds silliy to my ears, though. (And a billion is still 10e9, not 10e12.)

I think we won that one, either that or BBC America is translating (transnumerating?) for us.

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Werehatrack said:

It still sounds silliy to my ears, though. (And a billion is still 10e9, not 10e12.)

I think we won that one, either that or BBC America is translating (transnumerating?) for us.

They are not; 10^9 "billion" is now near-universal, I suspect because it is a useful quantity when
discussing money whereas 10^12 is not.

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(spooky) said:

Anyone know what tyres Lance and the rest of the USPS team use?

Whatever they're paid most to use. Those are the best, of course. :-)

Chalo Colina

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David L. Johnson said:

Werehatrack said:

It still sounds silliy to my ears, though. (And a billion is still 10e9, not 10e12.)

I think we won that one, either that or BBC America is translating (transnumerating?) for us.

They are not; 10^9 "billion" is now near-universal, I suspect because it is a useful quantity when
discussing money whereas 10^12 is not.

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"Tolkien", please.

ops. Thanks.

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AndresMuro said:

I think that I read that they use Hutchinson's. I am almost certain that they don't use tyres, or
chainsets. They use tires and cranksets :-)

Yup, I think they use these: performancebike.comProfile.cfmOpen ↗

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Chalo said:

Quoted message said:

Anyone know what tyres Lance and the rest of the USPS team use?

Whatever they're paid most to use. Those are the best, of course. :-)

I wish I could ride that kind of tire!

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Chalo Colina

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Bill Davidson said:

nicholas206gti said:

...not the Hutchinsons they're sponsored to use. There's a story on it somewhere in the tech
section at Velonews. They just stick hutchinsons patches over the other manufacturers tubulars.

That sounded odd to me but sure enough, a little searching and here it is:

velonews.com4588.0.htmlOpen ↗

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their logos onto a competitor's blacked-out tires. For example, Hutchinson doesn't make a
tubular, but Hutchinson-supported teams all sported "Hutchinson" tires - even though most of
the tires I saw were Vittoria Pro CXs.

Note that it does not mention USPS specificially but it does mention Hutchinson. Apparently Quick
Step, Saeco, CSC and Once are Hutchinson teams (based upon Hutchinson's web site). I also can't
find a tubular on the Hutchinson web site. I wonder if Michelin does the same thing given that
they also don't make a tubular that I can find?

The Vittoria CX isn't even slick tire. I would think the pros would want a slick.

For the mountains, they want a light tire. I doubt that the tread in question makes enough
difference to matter. But then, I doubt the weight savings makes enough difference to matter. But
then, I don't get paid to race (though I did win a "most blood" prize at a mountain bike race
this year).

A picture of Lance cheating on his tire supplier:

velonews.com4520.5461.f.jpgOpen ↗

I haven't checked, but Hutchinson apparently doesn't make any tan-sidewall tires.

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AndresMuro said:

I think that I read that they use Hutchinson's. I am almost certain that they don't use tyres, or
chainsets. They use tires and cranksets :-)

Yup, I think they use these: performancebike.comProfile.cfmOpen ↗

I doubt it. Those tires are so [censored] they wouldn't last one single decent for them. I wore my first
pair out in 500 km. My second pair had it after only 100 km.

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Per Elmsäter said:

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Yup, I think they use these: performancebike.comProfile.cfmOpen ↗

I doubt it. Those tires are so [censored] they wouldn't last one single

I agree that they don't use 'em, but I suspect they're not so bad.

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decent for them. I wore my first pair out in 500 km. My second pair had it after only 100 km.

What is the nature of "wore" and "had it"? I have Hutch Carbon Comps, from 2001, with a few hundred
miles on them; the sidewalls show some minor cracking, and the tread shows many small cuts and
holes, but I am now of the opinion that all of the above rubber issues are okay. The casing seems
still good.

The tires ride great, and give me all the traction I can ask for, at 100 to 125 psi (how I
ride them,
700x23c).

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Ryan Cousineau said:

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I haven't checked, but Hutchinson apparently doesn't make any tan-sidewall tires.

Actually they do. Hutchinson Reflex Kevlar's have tan sidewalls but I doubt Lance or anyone else
would be riding those in the TdF. They're not a high performance racing tire.

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Per Elmsäter said:

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Yup, I think they use these:
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I doubt it. Those tires are so [censored] they wouldn't last one single

I agree that they don't use 'em, but I suspect they're not so bad.

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decent for them. I wore my first pair out in 500 km. My second pair had it after only 100 km.

What is the nature of "wore" and "had it"? I have Hutch Carbon Comps, from 2001, with a few
hundred miles on them; the sidewalls show some minor cracking, and the tread shows many small cuts
and holes, but I am now of the opinion that all of the above rubber issues are okay. The casing
seems still good.

The tires ride great, and give me all the traction I can ask for, at 100 to 125 psi (how I
ride them,
700x23c).

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I agree that they ride wonderfully. At least as long as they last ;( My first set was cut so badly
in the rubber that Hutchinson replaced them immediately when I complained after about 500 km. It
seemed that every piece of sand or pebble on top of the asphalt left a cut, in the outer rubber
coating, as if it would have been glass. On the second set I ruined the rear tire completely by
braking too hard going about *two mph* on a bikepath after about 100 km. I've put my brakes on a lot
harder going 30 mph with my Michelin Pro Axials and it didn't even show on them. The Hutchinson tire
was completely worn through about three layers on a 2 inch spot. Hutchinson refused to replace this
tire and I will never buy another tire from them.

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My first set was cut so badly in the rubber that Hutchinson replaced them immediately when I
complained after about 500 km. It seemed that every piece of sand or pebble on top of the asphalt
left a cut, in the outer rubber coating, as if it would have been glass.

Hmm...I ought to try complaining to Hutchinson and see what happens. Mine show lots of small cuts,
in the rubber only; the casing looks good. Additionally, they show dry-rot in the sidewall rubber, a
little bit.

They feel safe, FWIW. I'll tell you how I feel after a 30mph blowout wipes most of my skin off my
body, though. <G>

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On the second set I ruined the rear tire completely by braking too hard going about *two mph* on a
bikepath after about 100 km. I've put my

When I was test-riding the bike before I bought it, I panic-braked from about 35mph to avoid a car
coming out of a side street, and the rear skidded. The tires did not show it. This may have been
because the front was loaded with all my weight from braking so hard with both brakes.

I suspect you only rear-braked in your incident? The tire still shouldn't have done that from two
mph, if you really were going that slow.

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