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where the name A.SUZZI come from?

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  1. Hi alls,

    I just bought a secondhand road bike with almost all components (including frame) are campagnolo, except Shimano pedal PD 6401. The brand name of the bike is A.SUZZI or SUZZI. I do not know where this name come from. My uncle Google does not know either.
    Anyone can help? Pictures are coming soon.

    Kleinehund

  2. Here are the pictures:
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  3. I've never heard of Suzzi, but that is very nice! Semi-wrap-over stays...semi-sloping crown...Prugnat lugs...single bottle braze ons...

    I'm guessing early 1980's production. A little chrome polish and some aluminum buffing and that thing would clean up to close to new.

    What does the writing on the world championship decal band say?

  4. CAMPYBOB said:


    What does the writing on the world championship decal band say?

    Many thanks,

    The world championship decal says: "XXXLIA, fossato 21- BOLOGNA", where [censored] are missing words.
    The upper decal says: "Tubi Rinforzati XXXX COLOMBUS"

  5. kleinehund said:

    Many thanks,

    The world championship decal says: "XXXLIA, fossato 21- BOLOGNA", where [censored] are missing words.
    The upper decal says: "Tubi Rinforzati XXXX COLOMBUS"

    Well, I think you have resolved the mystery. Sounds like your frame was either made or rebadged by Suzzi in Bologna.

    Jokes aside, remember that most Italian bike shops have frame makers badge bikes with their shop name, so either there was/is a Suzzi framemaker in Bologna or there is (more probably) a local bike shop that sells/sold 'em.

  6. Obviously, the decal contained the address of the manufacturer in Bologna. You might try researching further with this information.

    I'm guessing, going by the looks of the Columbus decal, that the tubing is SL or SLX.

  7. Right behind Pete!

    As Pete stated, it could be a 'house brand' or 'decal job' brazed up by...almost anyone. Back then, Italian builders were busy trading on any name that ended with an 'I' or sounded like an Italian dinner entre...mainly for export sales.

    The full chrome stays and fork, chrome head lugs, brake bridge with windowed/cutout reinforcements and general use of Record components indicate a top end or near top end model.

    Add a set of NOS Campy superleggera black quill road pedals and it's 1981 all over again! I'll bet it's fast, responsive and lively.

  8. CAMPYBOB said:

    Right behind Pete!

    As Pete stated, it could be a 'house brand' or 'decal job' brazed up by...almost anyone. Back then, Italian builders were busy trading on any name that ended with an 'I' or sounded like an Italian dinner entre...mainly for export sales.

    The full chrome stays and fork, chrome head lugs, brake bridge with windowed/cutout reinforcements and general use of Record components indicate a top end or near top end model.

    Add a set of NOS Campy superleggera black quill road pedals and it's 1981 all over again! I'll bet it's fast, responsive and lively.

    I am really an amateur even spent most of my life with a bike, one to another (I have no car, no motobike). How can you differenciate between Record and other Campagnolo lines, as i found no indication of Record or the like Chorus, Veloce... on the set.
    I will find out what is on the Columbus decal tomorrow, SL or SLX.
    Here are some more pictures:
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    Image in where the name A.SUZZI come from?

  9. I agree with Campybob. It is a higher end bike of the early 80s. Congrats, that is a very nice find.

    The components are Campagnolo Super Record. Google super record and you will see that.

    With that kind of componentry it is, in all probability, a Columbus SL or probably SLX frame.

    Polish it up, take the whole thing apart piece by piece, clean it, and put it back together. Buy any spares you need through ebay.

    Or, if the frame is a 54, just sell it to me. 😉

  10. On the back side of your rear deraileur you should be able to read a stamped date.

    Something like "Patente 83" or "Patente 84". This would be the year your component gruppo was made and likely the year your bicycle was assembled to the gruppo.

    The rear deraileur is a Campagnolo Super Record...top of the line back then. Your crankset is Super Record. If your front deraileur cage has holes in the outer plate, it too is Super record.

    Congratulations on aquiring a nice find!

  11. Thanks for all answers and comments.
    I could not find the componentry in Columbus frame as it is scratched. Another question is how to measure the frame to know it is 54 or 52?

  12. Using a tape measure, measure parallel to the seat tube from the center of the crankset (I use the hex hole in the dust cap as a centering point) to the intersection on the centerline of the seat tube and centerline of the top tube. This will give you the 'center-to-center' measurment.

    Measuring from the centerline of the crankset to the top of the seat tube at the intersection of the centerline of the seat tube and the TOP of the top tube gives you the 'center-to-top' measurement.

  13. Wow, you have got a fantastic find. A really pretty bike. There was an Antonio Suzzi in Bologna who hand built custom frames and did frame repairs, but he would have been an old man when your bike was made. The photos that you have supplied sure looks like his work though, and the rear dropouts, lugs, and fork crown looks like those he used. If he was still alive, he could have told you exactly who the frame was made for, when he made it to the day of completion, and how much he was paid for it. Unfortunately he passed away in 1998 at 96 years of age.

    You should have a ball with this bike but like all Suzzis it can be a handful until you get accustomed to it. It won't ride like any other bike that you have ever ridden.

  14. kleinehund said:

    Hi alls,

    I just bought a secondhand road bike with almost all components (including frame) are campagnolo, except Shimano pedal PD 6401. The brand name of the bike is A.SUZZI or SUZZI. I do not know where this name come from. My uncle Google does not know either.
    Anyone can help? Pictures are coming soon.

    Kleinehund


    Interesting to know how much you paid for it.

  15. hd reynolds said:

    Interesting to know how much you paid for it.

    Thank you all for interesting information. It is really a nice bike that i fell in at the first sight.
    I made a good deal of 200usd. How much do you think it worth?

  16. The Suzzi would be most valuable to collectors, therefore condition is everything.

    A mint example might trade at $800-$1000 in my area of the U.S.A. A less stellar one might only bring $400-$600 or so.

    With the pedals and wheels detracting from a 'full Campy' value, you still got a great deal. See how much of a shine it will take, go get yourself a pair of Campy Superleggera black cage pedals and find a used set of Campy low-flange record hubs laced to Campy tubular rims (32-hole, 3-cross) and you'll have a period-correct road racer at maximum value both on the market and riding 'value' on the road.

    The real worth? You'll find that out the first time you hammer out 50 miles on it.

  17. I found those articles on ebay:
    http://cgi.ebay.de/Campa-Record-Nabensatz-mit-Titanritzelpaket_W0QQitemZ220129732622QQihZ012QQcategoryZ77586QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
    http://cgi.ebay.de/Campagnolo-Pedal-Record-Standard_W0QQitemZ230150422002QQihZ013QQcategoryZ81697QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
    Do you think those fit to my bike?

  18. The Ebay link points to a pair of freehub C-record hubs. These are a later vintage than your bicycle. they may fit with a slight spreading on the rear dropouts, but they are not a period-correct match.

    You are looking for Campy Record hubs that are threaded for a freewheel...most likely a 7-speed. A 'correct' freewheel might be something like a Regina "America" model. Back in the day, Campy had an agreement of sorts. They stayed out of the chain and freewheel market and Regina was the usual fitment in those catogories. Most of us ran a Regina "Oro" (Gold) chain with the Regina freewheel.

  19. This wheelset ( cgi.ebay.deCampagnolo wheels High Low Record hubs Omega rims W0QQitemZ280131972963QQihZ018QQcategoryZ58096QQrdZ) would be correct for your bicycle. The combination high/low flange rear hub would be considered EXTREMELY rare and valuable in the states. Very few of these were imported as they were not popular here.

    Campy "Omega" and "Strada" hardox (solution heat treated and artifically aged) anodized rims would be a perfect match to the era your machine was built in.

  20. kleinehund said:

    Thank you all for interesting information. It is really a nice bike that i fell in at the first sight.
    I made a good deal of 200usd. How much do you think it worth?


    I'd buy that for even double that amount without thinking twice. Restored it will proly be worth $800usd.

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