Where To Get Dropout Spacing Adjustment

I do frame alignments and respacing often. It is rather simple, and I
don't charge much but I'm in Wisconsin. You should be able to do it
yourself, you can't hurt anything, and if worst comes to worst you
could always ship to me, I know that that is a pain, however if you can
find anyone with the softwear to do it in New Jersey then you should be
scott free.
-Tim
www.yellowjersey.org

If you're nervous, then you can do SS with spacers and a lockring or
pay some bucks for a Surly Fixxer to convert a cassette hub.

Unless the bike is uber-valuable, I wouldn't sweat a drop, when you're
reducing spacing, you're pressing against the brake bridge, instead of
pulling, no chance of popping that I can think of.

When you've got the spacing close enough, as ballpark is fine with
steel since you can spring in and out a mm or two, then use a big
crescent wrench to align your dropouts to parallel.

Yes this is a bit ghetto sounding, but you can get perfectly reasonable
results this way, it ain't big science.

Sheldon's string method is a good way to keep it all aligned. wrap
string around head tub and secure to dropouts, then measure from string
to seat tube as you align to make sure it's even.

In article
<[email hidden]>,

landotter said:

If you're nervous, then you can do SS with spacers and a lockring or
pay some bucks for a Surly Fixxer to convert a cassette hub.

Unless the bike is uber-valuable, I wouldn't sweat a drop, when you're
reducing spacing, you're pressing against the brake bridge, instead of
pulling, no chance of popping that I can think of.

When you've got the spacing close enough, as ballpark is fine with
steel since you can spring in and out a mm or two, then use a big
crescent wrench to align your dropouts to parallel.

Yes this is a bit ghetto sounding, but you can get perfectly reasonable
results this way, it ain't big science.

Sheldon's string method is a good way to keep it all aligned. wrap
string around head tub and secure to dropouts, then measure from string
to seat tube as you align to make sure it's even.

What are you talking about?

--
Michael Press

Try The Bike Stand in Scotch Plains. 908-322-3330. The owner is a mechanical
wizard. I believe that he has a frame alignment table.

www.thebikestand.com

If not here, I'd try High Gear Cyclery in Stirling.

www.highgearcyclery.com

Michael Press said:

What are you talking about?

Frame spacing.

keep adding washers, run, add washers, run - the frame will bend out

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

Quoted message said:

All,
I need to get the rear dropouts on two lugged steel bikes reset, so
that I can use them as fixies / SS's. I know Sheldon has a webpage
for cold setting dropouts, but I'm leery of doing this myself.
One bike I have already set up as a fixie / SS'er, but when I flip the
wheel, I have to shift some washers to the drive side to make the
wheel align under the brake bridge (I have brakes mounted for SS'ing).
The other bike is a work in progress--I asked an LBS to reset the
dropouts, but they didn't do it properly. One side is off by about
5mm (by the string test).
I live in northern New Jersey. Is there a reputable place that can do
the work I need? For two bikes, I'm willing to drive a couple of
hours (if I had only 1 bike, I'd send it someplace).

If you can do the string test, you can re-space your self. Once you have the
spacing correct, take the frame to a shop that has the tools to get the drop
outs parallel. Or, you can buy the tools yourself. The park FFG-1 is the tool
you need. At approximately $90, not cheap, but worth it if you use it a few
times.
------------
Alex

I'm very suprised that Mr. Press is so confused! We're talking about
bikes. Mabey you shouldn't post if your so very confused.
-Tim

Quoted message said:

I'm very suprised that Mr. Press is so confused! We're talking about
bikes. Mabey you shouldn't post if your so very confused.
-Tim

Tim:

Among the multiple confusing things about your post is your reference
to the "proper software", ostensibly for re-spacing rear triangles.

Really?! Software?

He may be the one who's confused, but maybe you are the one who should
not be posting?

D'ohBoy

D'ohBoy said:

Quoted message said:

I'm very suprised that Mr. Press is so confused! We're talking about
bikes. Mabey you shouldn't post if your so very confused.
-Tim

Tim:

Among the multiple confusing things about your post is your reference
to the "proper software", ostensibly for re-spacing rear triangles.

Really?! Software?

You mean you don't use MS FramesXP when you align a frame!?!

Quoted message said:

He may be the one who's confused, but maybe you are the one who should
not be posting?

D'ohBoy

I mean whats between your ears, software. If you have the knowhow then
you can make the hardware, as in your arms, work. I'm tring to be
helpful here on subjects that I have some amount of experince on. If
you have a question about bikes I may be able to help, if you have a
software problem, then I'm gonna sugguest you go find some traintracks,
stand inbetween those two large long steel things and wait...
-Tim

On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:42:32 GMT, question man <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

All,

I need to get the rear dropouts on two lugged steel bikes reset, so
that I can use them as fixies / SS's. I know Sheldon has a webpage
for cold setting dropouts, but I'm leery of doing this myself.

One bike I have already set up as a fixie / SS'er, but when I flip the
wheel, I have to shift some washers to the drive side to make the
wheel align under the brake bridge (I have brakes mounted for SS'ing).

The other bike is a work in progress--I asked an LBS to reset the
dropouts, but they didn't do it properly. One side is off by about
5mm (by the string test).

I live in northern New Jersey. Is there a reputable place that can do
the work I need? For two bikes, I'm willing to drive a couple of
hours (if I had only 1 bike, I'd send it someplace).

Thanks!

Phil

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Try The Bike Stand in Scotch Plains. 908-322-3330. The owner is a mechanical
wizard. I believe that he has a frame alignment table.

www.thebikestand.com

If not here, I'd try High Gear Cyclery in Stirling.

www.highgearcyclery.com

Thanks for all the helpful messages. I think I'll try the place in
Scotch Plains--it's right up the road.

The LBS that couldn't space the dropouts properly is High Gear.
(grumble, grumble)

If I had only 1 frame, I'd probably send it to Yellow Jersey.

Cheers,

Phil

Quoted message said:

I mean whats between your ears, software. If you have the knowhow then
you can make the hardware, as in your arms, work. I'm tring to be
helpful here on subjects that I have some amount of experince on. If
you have a question about bikes I may be able to help, if you have a
software problem, then I'm gonna sugguest you go find some traintracks,
stand inbetween those two large long steel things and wait...
-Tim

How long until you, with your limited experience and big ego, become an
embarassment to a very fine shop in Wisconsin? 🙁

question man said:

All,

I need to get the rear dropouts on two lugged steel bikes reset, so
that I can use them as fixies / SS's. I know Sheldon has a webpage
for cold setting dropouts, but I'm leery of doing this myself.

Why not space the hubs so they match the frame dropout spacing?

Quoted message said:

One bike I have already set up as a fixie / SS'er, but when I flip the
wheel, I have to shift some washers to the drive side to make the
wheel align under the brake bridge (I have brakes mounted for SS'ing).

You need to make the hub symmetrical, so flipping it doesn't need
spacer swap.

Quoted message said:

The other bike is a work in progress--I asked an LBS to reset the
dropouts, but they didn't do it properly. One side is off by about
5mm (by the string test).

Idiots are everywhere.

Quoted message said:

I live in northern New Jersey. Is there a reputable place that can do
the work I need? For two bikes, I'm willing to drive a couple of
hours (if I had only 1 bike, I'd send it someplace).

Thanks!

Phil

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

question man said:

All,

I need to get the rear dropouts on two lugged steel bikes reset, so
that I can use them as fixies / SS's. I know Sheldon has a webpage
for cold setting dropouts, but I'm leery of doing this myself.

Using 120mm flipflop hubs? Respace the hubs, might need a new axle for
130mm. If you are using 135mm hubs, from 126mm frame. I would be leary.

Quoted message said:

Why not space the hubs so they match the frame dropout spacing?

Quoted message said:

One bike I have already set up as a fixie / SS'er, but when I flip the
wheel, I have to shift some washers to the drive side to make the
wheel align under the brake bridge (I have brakes mounted for SS'ing).

You need to make the hub symmetrical, so flipping it doesn't need
spacer swap.

Quoted message said:

The other bike is a work in progress--I asked an LBS to reset the
dropouts, but they didn't do it properly. One side is off by about
5mm (by the string test).

Idiots are everywhere.

Quoted message said:

I live in northern New Jersey. Is there a reputable place that can do
the work I need? For two bikes, I'm willing to drive a couple of
hours (if I had only 1 bike, I'd send it someplace).

Thanks!

Phil

Per Tim:

Quoted message said:

If you have a question about bikes I may be able to help, if you have a
software problem, then I'm gonna sugguest you go find some traintracks,
stand inbetween those two large long steel things and wait...

Now, Tim, I suspect that Andy wouldn't appreciate you insulting a
long-time customer.

Please, you obviously know your stuff. However, that does not give you
license to be an ass.

That is BS's and JB's territory.

D'ohBoy

D'ohBoy

D'ohBoy said:

Per Tim:

Quoted message said:

If you have a question about bikes I may be able to help, if you
have a software problem, then I'm gonna sugguest you go find some
traintracks, stand inbetween those two large long steel things and
wait...

Now, Tim, I suspect that Andy wouldn't appreciate you insulting a
long-time customer.

Please, you obviously know your stuff. However, that does not give
you license to be an ass.

That is BS's and JB's territory.

D'ohBoy

D'ohBoy

So stupid you wrote it twice?

BS

BS