Which bike should I buy?

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Hey guys, I'm thinking about getting into bicycling and am in the
market for a new mountain bike. I've narrowed it down to these 3:
http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.php?pollid=1165

Let me know what you think I should get as well as pros/cons if
possible.

You're a bit vague with "bicycling". The machines you've picked out are
pretty serious kit, and to quite a degree are specialised for particular
aspects of mountain biking. I would say choosing a machine of this
level of niche-tuned sophistication with a start point of "I'm thinking
about getting into bicycling" is quite possibly an expensive mistake.

Refine exactly what you want to do with the bike and it'll be much
easier to come up with sensible input.

Pete.
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Quoted message said:

Hey guys, I'm thinking about getting into bicycling and am in the
market for a new mountain bike. I've narrowed it down to these 3:
http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.php?pollid=1165

Let me know what you think I should get as well as pros/cons if
possible.

You've got the wrong names under the first and last bikes.

Quoted message said:

Hey guys, I'm thinking about getting into bicycling and am in the
market for a new mountain bike. I've narrowed it down to these 3:
http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.php?pollid=1165

Let me know what you think I should get as well as pros/cons if
possible.

Are you being PAID by pollspace (whatever that is - I'm
not clicking your link)

You've posted questions about all manner
of diverse subjects, all backed onto pollspace
in

alt.sports.football.pro.ne-patriots
uk.rec.cycling
rec.sport.golf
alt.sports.baseball.ny-yankees
rec.sport.tennis
rec.motorcycles
rec.autos.sport.nascar
rec.food.cooking
rec.photo.digital

All today (with more yesterday)
Info from google groups, of course.

I call "spam".

BugBear

On 02/05/2007 16:06, [email hidden] said,

Quoted message said:

Hey guys, I'm thinking about getting into bicycling and am in the
market for a new mountain bike. I've narrowed it down to these 3:
http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.php?pollid=1165

Let me know what you think

I think this is some sort of spam. If you are actually serious about
buying any of those three, then you need to do an awful lot more
research, and none of them are suitable if you're "thinking about
getting into bicycling".

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

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Hey guys, I'm thinking about getting into bicycling and am in the
market for a new mountain bike. I've narrowed it down to these 3:
http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.php?pollid=1165

Let me know what you think I should get as well as pros/cons if
possible.

You've got your pictures in the wrong order.

More to the point, the three bikes are good at different things. The Santa
Cruz Superlight is a serious cross-country machine, light enough to ride
up hills fast and keep riding for a long time. It's also a very nice bike
to ride - I wouldn't mind one.

The Specialized Enduro is a heavier bike - you wouldn't want to ride it
uphill very far. It's also got over-complex suspension with all the
suspension bushes and the expensive suspension unit right in the path of
mud thrown off the back wheel. This sort of design is fine in places like
California, where the problem is dust, but doesn't work so well in British
conditions.

The Ellsworth is also a burlier bike with over-complex suspension linkages.
The problem with the long rocker designs is that as the bushes wear you
get a lot of slop and the bike ceases to be laterally stiff.

Complex suspension systems are marketed as having all sorts of advantages
but in actual testing rarely perform as well as single-pivot bikes,
particularly now that stable-platform valves are so good. And there's a
lot more to maintain.

For me there's no choice - the Superlight is far and away the pick of this
bunch. But I'm not going to be tempted to ride burly downhills, or land
big jumps. If you want to ride up hills, then you want the Superlight. If
you want to ride more adrenaline-rush downhills, then the balance shifts
to the other two and I would slightly prefer the Enduro - but none of
these are real downhill (or even freeride) bikes.

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anyone else baffled by the name - Dmitri Nguyen? Russian first name,
Vietnamese second...not yer everyday combination...
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in message <[email hidden]>,

(') said:

Hey guys, I'm thinking about getting into bicycling and am in the
market for a new mountain bike. I've narrowed it down to these 3:
http://www.thepollspace.com/polls.php?pollid=1165

Let me know what you think I should get as well as pros/cons if
possible.

You've got your pictures in the wrong order.

More to the point, the three bikes are good at different things. The Santa
Cruz Superlight is a serious cross-country machine, light enough to ride
up hills fast and keep riding for a long time. It's also a very nice bike
to ride - I wouldn't mind one.

The Specialized Enduro is a heavier bike - you wouldn't want to ride it
uphill very far. It's also got over-complex suspension with all the
suspension bushes and the expensive suspension unit right in the path of
mud thrown off the back wheel. This sort of design is fine in places like
California, where the problem is dust, but doesn't work so well in British
conditions.

The Ellsworth is also a burlier bike with over-complex suspension
linkages.
The problem with the long rocker designs is that as the bushes wear you
get a lot of slop and the bike ceases to be laterally stiff.

Complex suspension systems are marketed as having all sorts of advantages
but in actual testing rarely perform as well as single-pivot bikes,
particularly now that stable-platform valves are so good. And there's a
lot more to maintain.

For me there's no choice - the Superlight is far and away the pick of this
bunch. But I'm not going to be tempted to ride burly downhills, or land
big jumps. If you want to ride up hills, then you want the Superlight. If
you want to ride more adrenaline-rush downhills, then the balance shifts
to the other two and I would slightly prefer the Enduro - but none of
these are real downhill (or even freeride) bikes.

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

;; Friends don't send friends HTML formatted emails.

On 03/05/2007 17:13, AP said,

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anyone else baffled by the name - Dmitri Nguyen? Russian first name,
Vietnamese second...not yer everyday combination...

Not much more baffling than my sister-in-law who has an Abkhazi first
name and now a double-barrelled Irish/Scottish surname. It isn't
unknown for people from different countries to get married!

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

Paul Boyd said:

On 03/05/2007 17:13, AP said,

Quoted message said:

anyone else baffled by the name - Dmitri Nguyen? Russian first name,
Vietnamese second...not yer everyday combination...

Not much more baffling than my sister-in-law who has an Abkhazi first
name and now a double-barrelled Irish/Scottish surname. It isn't
unknown for people from different countries to get married!

I have a friend who has a Dutch first name and a Scottish surname. The
only reason he is called that is that his mother saw the name in a novel
when she was a girl, and wanted to name her son the same "when she grew
up". I guess it's not uncommon for people in different countries to read
books :-)

My father wanted to name me Hamish, but luckily he was married to my mother!

AP said:

anyone else baffled by the name - Dmitri Nguyen? Russian first name,
Vietnamese second...not yer everyday combination...

Well, my daughter has a Hebrew Christian name and a Dutch surname.

Cheers,
Luke

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Swansea City 2-2 Southend United
We went up twice with Tilly and Brush

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Paul Boyd said:

On 03/05/2007 17:13, AP said,

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anyone else baffled by the name - Dmitri Nguyen? Russian first name,
Vietnamese second...not yer everyday combination...

Not much more baffling than my sister-in-law who has an Abkhazi first
name and now a double-barrelled Irish/Scottish surname. It isn't
unknown for people from different countries to get married!

I have a friend who has a Dutch first name and a Scottish surname. The
only reason he is called that is that his mother saw the name in a novel
when she was a girl, and wanted to name her son the same "when she grew
up". I guess it's not uncommon for people in different countries to read
books :-)

My father wanted to name me Hamish, but luckily he was married to my mother!

I have a friend who is Brazilian his wife is Dutch and his son
has an Irish first name and they live in Scotland.
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Cheers
the.Mark

"AP" <[email hidden]> a écrit:

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anyone else baffled by the name - Dmitri Nguyen? Russian first
name, Vietnamese second...not yer everyday combination...

Maybe not, but I used to work with a chap called Sven O'Flynn.

James Thomson

On 06/11/2007 20:21, James Thomson said,

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"AP" <[email hidden]> a écrit:

Quoted message said:

anyone else baffled by the name - Dmitri Nguyen? Russian first
name, Vietnamese second...not yer everyday combination...

Maybe not, but I used to work with a chap called Sven O'Flynn.

James Thomson

Blimey - you're behind with this group, aren't you? You have a heck of
a lot of catching up to do if you're only in May :-)

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Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/