which helmet is this?

Mike said:

I have lost my helmet (long story) purchased a year or two ago. The
helmet was over $100USD, a road helmet, had web straps coming from
two places on each side of the helmet that met to be a single strap
for a plastic quick-lock-type under-chin buckle (all helmets are this
way now, yes?). The feature that I really came to like was an adjustment
in the back that allowed me to comfortable ride with a cycling cap under
the helmet or without by turning a dial. To memory the dial was red
in sort of a clear plastic case. I could only adjust the dial by part
of the dial sticking through the case at the bottom of the case. I
though this dial thing would be flimsy and would break, but I bought
the helmet anyway. The dial didn't adjust much, but it was enough to
expand or retract for wearing a cap (actually a head sweats, terry-
cloth, cool-max with a visor thing).

I suppose the helmet was as good as anyother certified and rated
helmet, but I like this adjustment thing.

Looking at pictures on nashbar it was not a Louis Garneau helmet.

Anyone have an idea what helmet this could be?

Mike

Dear Mike,

The dial features sounds like Bell's "GPS fit system":

GPS Fit System Explained:

For a glove-like fit, nothing beats Bell's exclusive Geared
Positioning System (GPS). Offered on our marquee helmets—Ghisallo,
X-Ray, Furio and Influx, —GPS delivers the ultimate one-hand
adjustment for superior fit and comfort. Simply turn the dial to click
in to the perfect custom fit.

pricepoint.comBell Ghisallo Helmet '06.htmOpen ↗

Have a look at Bells on Performance (Nashbar sells their overstock):

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/sub_cat.cfm?subcategory_id=4210

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

Mike said:

I have lost my helmet (long story) purchased a year or two ago. The
helmet was over $100USD, a road helmet, had web straps coming from
two places on each side of the helmet that met to be a single strap
for a plastic quick-lock-type under-chin buckle (all helmets are this
way now, yes?). The feature that I really came to like was an
adjustment in the back that allowed me to comfortable ride with a
cycling cap under the helmet or without by turning a dial. To memory
the dial was red
in sort of a clear plastic case. I could only adjust the dial by part
of the dial sticking through the case at the bottom of the case. I
though this dial thing would be flimsy and would break, but I bought
the helmet anyway. The dial didn't adjust much, but it was enough to
expand or retract for wearing a cap (actually a head sweats, terry-
cloth, cool-max with a visor thing).

I suppose the helmet was as good as anyother certified and rated
helmet, but I like this adjustment thing.

Looking at pictures on nashbar it was not a Louis Garneau helmet.

Anyone have an idea what helmet this could be?

I have a Bell and a Cratoni like that. The Bell has a small notched "dial",
while the Cratoni's adjuster is a larger wheel-type device. Both work well.

Why not go to a bike shop and try on some lids (and buy) there?

Bill S.

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Mike said:

I have lost my helmet (long story) purchased a year or two ago.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The feature that I really came to like was an adjustment
in the back that allowed me to comfortable ride with a cycling cap under
the helmet or without by turning a dial. To memory the dial was red
in sort of a clear plastic case. I could only adjust the dial by part
of the dial sticking through the case at the bottom of the case.

I suppose the helmet was as good as anyother certified and rated
helmet, but I like this adjustment thing.

Looking at pictures on nashbar it was not a Louis Garneau helmet.

Anyone have an idea what helmet this could be?

Mike

Dear Mike,

The dial features sounds like Bell's "GPS fit system":

GPS Fit System Explained:

Quoted message said:

pricepoint.comBell Ghisallo Helmet '06.htmOpen ↗
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/sub_cat.cfm?subcategory_id=4210

Quite a few different helmet brands use a similar adjustment dial, and
virtually all modern road helmets (at least the ones costing more than
$50) have rear adjustments like your old helmet.

I just tried out a Garneau Oz-zy (club kit; I'll be ordering one in team
colours), and it has a very nice dial adjustment at the back, similar to
the one you describe, but with the whole knob accessible for adjustment.

I'd go with the suggestion that with so many common helmets having the
adjustment you need, a trip to your local bike shop will probably be
fulfilling.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Mike said:

I have lost my helmet (long story) purchased a year or two ago. The
helmet was over $100USD, a road helmet, had web straps coming from
two places on each side of the helmet that met to be a single strap
for a plastic quick-lock-type under-chin buckle (all helmets are this
way now, yes?). The feature that I really came to like was an adjustment
in the back that allowed me to comfortable ride with a cycling cap under
the helmet or without by turning a dial. To memory the dial was red
in sort of a clear plastic case.

Like my Bell helmet..my guess...

I could only adjust the dial by part

Quoted message said:

of the dial sticking through the case at the bottom of the case. I
though this dial thing would be flimsy and would break, but I bought
the helmet anyway. The dial didn't adjust much, but it was enough to
expand or retract for wearing a cap (actually a head sweats, terry-
cloth, cool-max with a visor thing).

I suppose the helmet was as good as anyother certified and rated
helmet, but I like this adjustment thing.

Looking at pictures on nashbar it was not a Louis Garneau helmet.

Anyone have an idea what helmet this could be?

Mike

Bill Sornson said:

I have a Bell and a Cratoni like that. The Bell has a small notched "dial",
while the Cratoni's adjuster is a larger wheel-type device. Both work well.

Why not go to a bike shop and try on some lids (and buy) there?

Because

a) it would be a complete waste of money; and

b) it would promote the erosion of cyclists' rights.

Quoted message said:

Bill Sornson said:

I have a Bell and a Cratoni like that. The Bell has a small notched "dial",
while the Cratoni's adjuster is a larger wheel-type device. Both work well.

Why not go to a bike shop and try on some lids (and buy) there?

Because

a) it would be a complete waste of money; and

b) it would promote the erosion of cyclists' rights.

butbutbut, the Magic Foam Hat [TM] can be used to retain a foil head
covering to prevent mind control while cycling:
<http://eclectech.co.uk/mindcontrol.php>.

--
Tom Sherman - Post Free or Die!

Quoted message said:

Bill Sornson said:

I have a Bell and a Cratoni like that. The Bell has a small notched "dial",
while the Cratoni's adjuster is a larger wheel-type device. Both work well.

Why not go to a bike shop and try on some lids (and buy) there?

Because

a) it would be a complete waste of money; and

b) it would promote the erosion of cyclists' rights.

here we go....don't get a car with seatbelts either cuz it erodes car
driver's 'rights'...

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Quoted message said:

Bill Sornson said:

I have a Bell and a Cratoni like that. The Bell has a small notched "dial",
while the Cratoni's adjuster is a larger wheel-type device. Both work well.

Why not go to a bike shop and try on some lids (and buy) there?

Because

a) it would be a complete waste of money; and

b) it would promote the erosion of cyclists' rights.

here we go....don't get a car with seatbelts either cuz it erodes car
driver's 'rights'...

You live where there are no mandatory seatbelt laws?

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Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Quoted message said:

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:32:54 GMT, "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>
>I have a Bell and a Cratoni like that. The Bell has a small notched "dial",
>while the Cratoni's adjuster is a larger wheel-type device. Both work well.
>
>Why not go to a bike shop and try on some lids (and buy) there?
>

Because

a) it would be a complete waste of money; and

b) it would promote the erosion of cyclists' rights.

here we go....don't get a car with seatbelts either cuz it erodes car
driver's 'rights'...

You live where there are no mandatory seatbelt laws?

take the pack off.....helmets are here to stay, don't hurt, 'may' help.

Quoted message said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Quoted message said:

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:32:54 GMT, "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>
>I have a Bell and a Cratoni like that. The Bell has a small notched "dial",
>while the Cratoni's adjuster is a larger wheel-type device. Both work well.
>
>Why not go to a bike shop and try on some lids (and buy) there?
>

Because

a) it would be a complete waste of money; and

b) it would promote the erosion of cyclists' rights.

here we go....don't get a car with seatbelts either cuz it erodes car
driver's 'rights'...

You live where there are no mandatory seatbelt laws?

Pity there were no mandatory contraceptive laws where your parents
resided, troll.

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Bill Sornson said:

I have a Bell and a Cratoni like that. The Bell has a small notched "dial",
while the Cratoni's adjuster is a larger wheel-type device. Both work well.

Why not go to a bike shop and try on some lids (and buy) there?

Because

a) it would be a complete waste of money; and

In your case, quite so; why protect an empty vessel?

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Quoted message said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

[email hidden] wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:32:54 GMT, "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >
> >I have a Bell and a Cratoni like that. The Bell has a small notched "dial",
> >while the Cratoni's adjuster is a larger wheel-type device. Both work well.
> >
> >Why not go to a bike shop and try on some lids (and buy) there?
> >
>
> Because
>
> a) it would be a complete waste of money; and
>
> b) it would promote the erosion of cyclists' rights.

here we go....don't get a car with seatbelts either cuz it erodes car
driver's 'rights'...

You live where there are no mandatory seatbelt laws?

take the pack off.....helmets are here to stay, don't hurt, 'may' help.

So, do you live where there are no mandatory seatbelt laws?
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Ozark Bicycle said:

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Bill Sornson said:

I have a Bell and a Cratoni like that. The Bell has a small notched "dial",
while the Cratoni's adjuster is a larger wheel-type device. Both work well.

Why not go to a bike shop and try on some lids (and buy) there?

Because

a) it would be a complete waste of money; and

In your case, quite so; why protect an empty vessel?

So how much is your head worth?

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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Ozark Bicycle said:

Quoted message said:

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:32:54 GMT, "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>
>I have a Bell and a Cratoni like that. The Bell has a small notched "dial",
>while the Cratoni's adjuster is a larger wheel-type device. Both work well.
>
>Why not go to a bike shop and try on some lids (and buy) there?
>

Because

a) it would be a complete waste of money; and

In your case, quite so; why protect an empty vessel?

So how much is your head worth?

Based on content, much more than yours, apparently.

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Bill Sornson said:

I have a Bell and a Cratoni like that. The Bell has a small notched "dial",
while the Cratoni's adjuster is a larger wheel-type device. Both work well.

Why not go to a bike shop and try on some lids (and buy) there?

Because

a) it would be a complete waste of money; and

b) it would promote the erosion of cyclists' rights.

Oh my goodness, well if you do choose to defy supporting cyclists
rights, I would go with a Giro or Bell. It sounds like your earlier
helmet was a Bell.

Mike said:

I have lost my helmet (long story) purchased a year or two ago. The
helmet was over $100USD, a road helmet, had web straps coming from
two places on each side of the helmet that met to be a single strap
for a plastic quick-lock-type under-chin buckle (all helmets are this
way now, yes?). The feature that I really came to like was an adjustment
in the back that allowed me to comfortable ride with a cycling cap under
the helmet or without by turning a dial. To memory the dial was red
in sort of a clear plastic case. I could only adjust the dial by part
of the dial sticking through the case at the bottom of the case. I
though this dial thing would be flimsy and would break, but I bought
the helmet anyway. The dial didn't adjust much, but it was enough to
expand or retract for wearing a cap (actually a head sweats, terry-
cloth, cool-max with a visor thing).

I suppose the helmet was as good as anyother certified and rated
helmet, but I like this adjustment thing.

Looking at pictures on nashbar it was not a Louis Garneau helmet.

Anyone have an idea what helmet this could be?

It was a Limar.

-Doug

Ozark Bicycle said:

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Ozark Bicycle said:

[email hidden] wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:32:54 GMT, "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >
> >I have a Bell and a Cratoni like that. The Bell has a small notched "dial",
> >while the Cratoni's adjuster is a larger wheel-type device. Both work well.
> >
> >Why not go to a bike shop and try on some lids (and buy) there?
> >
>
> Because
>
> a) it would be a complete waste of money; and

In your case, quite so; why protect an empty vessel?

So how much is your head worth?

Based on content, much more than yours, apparently.

Interesting viewpoint. And sort of consistent -- you're afraid to show
your face in this group. I can't help but imagine that you wear a
full-face helmet a lot of the time to hide/protect your face too.
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Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Quoted message said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

[email hidden] wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:32:54 GMT, "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >
> >I have a Bell and a Cratoni like that. The Bell has a small notched "dial",
> >while the Cratoni's adjuster is a larger wheel-type device. Both work well.
> >
> >Why not go to a bike shop and try on some lids (and buy) there?
> >
>
> Because
>
> a) it would be a complete waste of money; and
>
> b) it would promote the erosion of cyclists' rights.

here we go....don't get a car with seatbelts either cuz it erodes car
driver's 'rights'...

You live where there are no mandatory seatbelt laws?

take the pack off.....helmets are here to stay, don't hurt, 'may' help.

"Don't hurt, may help" is opinion, negated by good studies.

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Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Quoted message said:

On 5 Dec 2006 07:15:31 -0800, "Qui si parla Campagnolo"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>
>[email hidden] wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:32:54 GMT, "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >I have a Bell and a Cratoni like that. The Bell has a small notched "dial",
>> >while the Cratoni's adjuster is a larger wheel-type device. Both work well.
>> >
>> >Why not go to a bike shop and try on some lids (and buy) there?
>> >
>>
>> Because
>>
>> a) it would be a complete waste of money; and
>>
>> b) it would promote the erosion of cyclists' rights.
>
>here we go....don't get a car with seatbelts either cuz it erodes car
>driver's 'rights'...

You live where there are no mandatory seatbelt laws?

take the pack off.....helmets are here to stay, don't hurt, 'may' help.

"Don't hurt, may help" is opinion, negated by good studies.

As far as I've read so far there are two true statements to be made
about helmets.

1, May help. (It is possible that in a given accident a helmet MAY help
to save a life)

2, May hurt. (It is possible that in a given accident a helmet MAYcause
additional serious injury)

But what is not clear is whether the good out weighs the bad or does
the bad outweigh the good. Unlike seatbelts where (I believe) the
benefits of wearing one out weigh the risks, with helmets all we seem
to have is a lot of vague statistics for both for and against their
use.

For me, I believe that when I'm mtbing the good out weighs the bad
(just) and for road riding the opposite as I feel I'm spending more
time riding outside of the design capabilities of a helmet, higher
speeds and possible accidents with cars. Though I still wear one on the
road for most rides.

Because of the lack of good supporting evidence for both sides of the
argument individual opinions for the use or non-use of a helmet should
be respected, but for the same reason of lack of good supporting
evidence any attempts at a mhl should thwarted.

My fear is that unless we fight all attempts at mhl's, we will be
expected to wear a helmet at all times and any negligence to do so will
affect future insurance claims and legal battles. I've already read
that some insurance claims have been dropped by 15% because the
injuryed party was not wearing a helmet, regardless of who caused the
accident or whether a helmet in that situation would have made any
difference at all. It is even possible the helmet made that situation
worse.

As cyclists we should agree to disagree, but all agree that mhl's are
bad.

Any Texas lawyers in the group? As there's no mhl for motorcyclists in
Texas does the lack of wearing one affect accident insurace claims
there?

Worried of W.I.

Marz