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Why I, Barbara Schwarz would pass any examination...

Truth Speaker · 2004-01-08T10:33:41+00:00

Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and smart. Most of you ARS posters aren't. Read below to get a bit smarter. If psychs would come to get me, they would hear a lot of legal statutory language and trust me, they would be pretty much stressed to respond adequately. 🙂 There is ...a sphere within which the individual may assert the supremacy of his own will and rightfully dispute the authority of any human government, especially of any free government existing under a written constitution, to interfer with the excercise of that will. Jacobsen v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11, 29 (1905). (Not Jeff Jacobsen, he doesn't write smart, but he could be that old, probably wearing Depends and that gave him perhaps the idea to dramatize Gandhi.) A person's intellect is surely within that protected sphere. The right of a person to liberty, autonomy and privacy over his or her own thought process is situated at the core of what it means to be a free person. It is essential to the most elementary concepts of human freedom, dignity, and self- expression, and demands this court's steadfast protection. The right to sovereignty over one's own thought processes is the quintessence of freedom, and is protected by the First Amendment. This is important for the people to know, who scream that I should be forcefully medicated, and committed, because I dare to speak my mind. ARS extremist and friends, can you follow? Try at least... The First Amendment protects communciation of virtually all kinds whether in writing, verbal, pictural, or any symbolic form, and whether cognitive or emotive in nature. The First Amendment, declared by the court in West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943), gives a constitutional preference for "individual freedom of mind" over "officially disciplined uniformity for which history indicates a disappointing and disastrous end". Professor Thomas Emerson said in The System of Freedom of Expression 21-22: "Forming or holding a belief occurs prior to expression. But it is the first stage in the processes of expression, and it tends to progress into expression. Hence safeguarding the right to form and hold beliefs is essential in maintaining a system of freedom of expression. Freedom of belief, therefore, must be held included within the protection of the First Amendment. We can have intellectual individualism and the rich cultural diversities that we owe to exceptional minds only at the price of occasional eccentricity and abnormal attitudes. 319 U.S. 624. Do you hear that Karin Spaink who talks people into committing suicide? Abnormal attitude... I hope it will become one day clear to you guys that I have the exceptional mind, while you hecklers have the kind of remaining kind of minds. Are you still with me, Tory Christman, Tigger, Sally Goodman, Frederic Rice, Garry Scarff and all the other people that live in the dark? I know you have a hard time understanding that, but apply L. Ron Hubbard's study technology and things will become clearer. 🙂 And listen up, David Rice and all you folks who promote psychiatric drugs. These drugs "alter the chemical balance in a patient's brain, leading to changes...in his or her cognitive processes". Harper, 494 U.S. at 229. See, dirty Rice boy, that is your problem. With your drugs you can't have the cognitions that you need to turn your life around and to become truly something worth. "...the physical and mental side effects of the drugs might be unacceptable, even dangerous". Harper, 494 U.S. at 238. Even in the absence of physical and mental "side effects" the fact remains that anti psychotic drugs strongly affect thought processes. It should be noted that anti psychotic drugs do not cure mental illness; rather they suppress the symptoms of the illness. See Gerald Davidson & John Neale, Abnormal Psychology 305 (8th ed 2001). If that is not enough reasons to spit that stuff out, but be careful when Garry Scarff spits, he has AIDS. By forcing a person to take mind-altering drug against his or her will, the government is commandeering that person's mind, and forcibly changing his or her alibity to formulate particular thoughts. In re Guardianship of Roe, 421 N.E.2d 40, 52-3 (1981), ("the impact of the chemcials upon the brain is sufficient to undermine the foundation of personality.) Are you now finally a bit smarter, Dave Touretzky, Arnie Lerma, Roger Gonnet and Barb Graham Warr? The First Amendment protects the communication of ideas, which itself implies protection of the capacity to produce ideas. Antipsychiotic drugs have the capacity to severly and even permanently affect an individual's to think and communicate. Bee, 744 F2d at 1393-94. That's why so many ARS posters post as they have an impaired brain and mind. They pop those stupid and dangerous drugs. Psychiatry is not an exact science, and psychiatrists disagree widely and frequently on what constitutes mental illness, on the appropriate diagnosis to be attached to given behavior and symptoms, on cure and treatment..." Ake v. Oklahoma, 470 U.S. 68, 81 (1985). See also Ennis & Litwack, Psychiatry and the Presumption of Expertise: Flipping coins in the courtroom, 62 Cal. L. rev. 693, 697-708, 729-32 (1974). See, Joe Lynn, you and the other extremists below were just lucky that you are not in an institution forcefully medicated. Hey, and think about Dave Bird roaming streets with his pants down! There can be no doubt that commitment to a mental institution results in a "massive curtailment of liberty", Humphrey v. Cady 405 U.S. 504, 509. No, that is not Kady O'Malley, but her actions are pretty crazy. Who knows, perhaps Mountain Police want to institutionalize her and that is why she fears them? Anyway, Persons incarcerated in mental hospitals are not only deprived of their physical liberty, they are also deprived of friends, family and community. 442 U.S. 584, 627. Tilman Hausherr, can you please make sure that the German psychs, the butchers of Munich get a copy of that and stick it behind their blood crusted mirrors? So should you, as you are such a fan of those butchers, right? It turns out that psychiatrists, with the full understanding and tacit permission of the trial judges, regularly lie in court to obtain involuntary commitment and forced medication orders. Michael L. Perlin, Journal of Law and Health 1993/1994, 8 JLHealth 15, 33-34 in "Can Sanist Attitudes Be Undone?" The psychiatric profession explicitly acknowledged psychiatrists regularly lie to the courts in order to obtain forced treatment orders. Those "saints"... and what a destructive cult psychiatry is! E. Fuller Torrey, M.D. one of the prominent proponent of involuntary psychiatric treatment said: "It would probably be difficult to find any American psychiatrist working with the mentally ill who has not, at a minimum, exaggerated the dangerousness of a mental ill person's behavior to obtain a judicial order for commitment. Torey E. Fuller, 1997 Out of the Shadows. What is no doubt shocking to Americans who have experienced the referred to psychiatry process, it turns out that the legal protections for people diagnosed as mentally ill are not worth the paper they are written on and the court proceedings are fairly characterized as a sham. The effect of it is described by Professor Perlin: "Its toxin infects all participants in the judicial system, breeds cynicism and disrespect for the law. Demeans participants, and reinforces shoddy lawyering, blase judging, and, at times, perjurious and/or corrupt testifying. The reality is well known to frequent customers of judicial services in this area: to mental health advocates and other public defender/legal aid/legal service lawyers assigned to represent patients and criminal defendants who are mentally disabled, to prosecutors and state attorneys assigned to represent hospitals, to judges who regularly hear such cases, to expert and lay witnesses…" Sanist Attitudes, supra. Before you guys post unqualified postings that a person should be committed or drugged, just because she is of other opinions and thinks differently than you do, pull out the law books as I do and operate within the laws. Barbara Schwarz (the real one) P.S. Postings with e-mail address [email hidden] and identity Barbara_Schwarz are not done by me. Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff in Los Angeles. And Frederic Rice is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and greasy punch bag is an impressive man. ---------------------------------------------- Linda Anderson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/andersenl1.html Gerald Armstrong http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/armstrong1.html Jim Beebe http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/beebej1.html Graham Berry http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/berry.html David Bird http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/birdd1.html Tory Christman http://religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/christmant4.html Ursula Caberta http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/caberta.html Ida Camburn http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/camburn1.html Joe Cisar http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/cisarj1.html Robert Clark http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/clark1.html Elizabeth Ann Cox http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/coxea1.html Mark Dallara http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dallara1.html Alexander Dvorkin http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dvorkin1.html Valerie Emanuel http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/emanuelv1.html Steven Fishman http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fishman1.html Vickki Ford Cook http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fordv1.html Phil Georgi http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen6.html Scott Goehring http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/goehrings1.html Roger Gonnet http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/gonnet1.html Barbara Graham http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/graham1.html Gregg Hagglund http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hagglund1.html Steve Hassan http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/hassan1.html Tilman Hausherr http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hauser1.html Andreas Heldal-Lund http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html Keith Henson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/henson1.html Deana Holmes http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/holmes1.html Jeff Jacobsen http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen1.html Patrick Jost http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jost1.html Charlotte Kates http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/katesc1.html Rod Keller http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/keller1.html Steven Kent http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/kent1.html Arnie Lerma http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html Joe Lynn http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lynn1.html Ted Mayett http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/mayett1.html Frank Oliver http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/oliver.html Kady O'Malley http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/omalley1.html Zenon Panoussis http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/panoussis1.html Ted Patrick http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/patrick1.html Michael Pattinson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pattinsonm1.html Robert Peterson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/peterson1.html Bruce/Kathleen Pettycrew http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pettycrew.html Jesse Prince http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/prince1.html Roland Rashleigh-Berry http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/rashleighb1.html David Rice http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/riced.html Fred Rice http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ricef.html Rick Ross http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/rossr1.html Karin Spaink http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/spaink1.html David Touretzky http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/touretzky1.html Alan Walter http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/walter1.html Grady Ward http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ward.html Johan Wevers http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/weversj1.html Hana/Jerry Whitfield http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/whitfield1.html Larry Wollersheim http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/wollersheim1.html Sten-Arne Zerpe http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/zerpesa1.html -- http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org --

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8 January 2004, 10:33 UTC #1

Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and
smart. Most of you ARS posters aren't. Read below to get a bit
smarter. If psychs would come to get me, they would hear a lot of
legal statutory language and trust me, they would be pretty much
stressed to respond adequately. 🙂
There is ...a sphere within which the individual may assert the supremacy of his own will and
rightfully dispute the authority of any human government, especially of any free government existing
under a written constitution, to interfer with the excercise of that will. Jacobsen v.
Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11, 29 (1905).
(Not Jeff Jacobsen, he doesn't write smart, but he could be that old, probably wearing Depends and
that gave him perhaps the idea to dramatize Gandhi.)
A person's intellect is surely within that protected sphere. The right of a person to liberty,
autonomy and privacy over his or her own thought process is situated at the core of what it means to
be a free person. It is essential to the most elementary concepts of human freedom, dignity, and self-
expression, and demands this court's steadfast protection. The right to sovereignty over one's own
thought processes is the quintessence of freedom, and is protected by the First Amendment.
This is important for the people to know, who scream that I should be forcefully medicated,
and committed, because I dare to speak my mind. ARS extremist and friends, can you follow? Try
at least...
The First Amendment protects communciation of virtually all kinds whether in writing, verbal,
pictural, or any symbolic form, and whether cognitive or emotive in nature.
The First Amendment, declared by the court in West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette,
319 U.S. 624 (1943), gives a constitutional preference for "individual freedom of mind" over
"officially disciplined uniformity for which history indicates a disappointing and disastrous end".
Professor Thomas Emerson said in The System of Freedom of Expression 21-22: "Forming or holding a
belief occurs prior to expression. But it is the first stage in the processes of expression, and it
tends to progress into expression. Hence safeguarding the right to form and hold beliefs is
essential in maintaining a system of freedom of expression. Freedom of belief, therefore, must be
held included within the protection of the First Amendment.
We can have intellectual individualism and the rich cultural diversities that we owe to exceptional
minds only at the price of occasional eccentricity and abnormal attitudes. 319 U.S. 624.
Do you hear that Karin Spaink who talks people into committing suicide? Abnormal attitude...
I hope it will become one day clear to you guys that I have the exceptional mind, while you hecklers
have the kind of remaining kind of minds.
Are you still with me, Tory Christman, Tigger, Sally Goodman, Frederic Rice, Garry Scarff and all
the other people that live in the dark? I know you have a hard time understanding that, but apply L.
Ron Hubbard's study technology and things will become clearer. 🙂
And listen up, David Rice and all you folks who promote psychiatric drugs. These drugs "alter the
chemical balance in a patient's brain, leading to changes...in his or her cognitive processes".
Harper, 494 U.S. at 229. See, dirty Rice boy, that is your problem. With your drugs you can't have
the cognitions that you need to turn your life around and to become truly something worth.
"...the physical and mental side effects of the drugs might be unacceptable, even dangerous".
Harper, 494 U.S. at 238. Even in the absence of physical and mental "side effects" the fact remains
that anti psychotic drugs strongly affect thought processes.
It should be noted that anti psychotic drugs do not cure mental illness; rather they suppress the
symptoms of the illness. See Gerald Davidson & John Neale, Abnormal Psychology 305 (8th ed 2001).
If that is not enough reasons to spit that stuff out, but be careful when Garry Scarff spits,
he has AIDS.
By forcing a person to take mind-altering drug against his or her will, the government is
commandeering that person's mind, and forcibly changing his or her alibity to formulate particular
thoughts. In re Guardianship of Roe, 421 N.E.2d 40, 52-3 (1981), ("the impact of the chemcials upon
the brain is sufficient to undermine the foundation of personality.)
Are you now finally a bit smarter, Dave Touretzky, Arnie Lerma, Roger Gonnet and Barb Graham Warr?
The First Amendment protects the communication of ideas, which itself implies protection of the
capacity to produce ideas. Antipsychiotic drugs have the capacity to severly and even permanently
affect an individual's to think and communicate. Bee, 744 F2d at 1393-94.
That's why so many ARS posters post as they have an impaired brain and mind. They pop those stupid
and dangerous drugs.
Psychiatry is not an exact science, and psychiatrists disagree widely and frequently on what
constitutes mental illness, on the appropriate diagnosis to be attached to given behavior and
symptoms, on cure and treatment..." Ake v. Oklahoma, 470 U.S. 68, 81 (1985). See also Ennis &
Litwack, Psychiatry and the Presumption of Expertise: Flipping coins in the courtroom, 62 Cal. L.
rev. 693, 697-708, 729-32 (1974).
See, Joe Lynn, you and the other extremists below were just lucky that you are not in an institution
forcefully medicated. Hey, and think about Dave Bird roaming streets with his pants down!
There can be no doubt that commitment to a mental institution results in a "massive curtailment of
liberty", Humphrey v. Cady 405 U.S. 504,
509.
No, that is not Kady O'Malley, but her actions are pretty crazy. Who knows, perhaps Mountain Police
want to institutionalize her and that is why she fears them?
Anyway, Persons incarcerated in mental hospitals are not only deprived of their physical liberty,
they are also deprived of friends, family and community. 442 U.S. 584, 627.
Tilman Hausherr, can you please make sure that the German psychs, the butchers of Munich get a copy
of that and stick it behind their blood crusted mirrors? So should you, as you are such a fan of
those butchers, right?
It turns out that psychiatrists, with the full understanding and tacit permission of the trial
judges, regularly lie in court to obtain involuntary commitment and forced medication orders.
Michael L. Perlin, Journal of Law and Health 1993/1994, 8 JLHealth 15, 33-34 in "Can Sanist
Attitudes Be Undone?" The psychiatric profession explicitly acknowledged psychiatrists regularly lie
to the courts in order to obtain forced treatment orders.
Those "saints"... and what a destructive cult psychiatry is!
E. Fuller Torrey, M.D. one of the prominent proponent of involuntary psychiatric treatment said: "It
would probably be difficult to find any American psychiatrist working with the mentally ill who
has not, at a minimum, exaggerated the dangerousness of a mental ill person's behavior to obtain
a judicial order for commitment. Torey E. Fuller, 1997 Out of the Shadows.
What is no doubt shocking to Americans who have experienced the referred to psychiatry process, it
turns out that the legal protections for people diagnosed as mentally ill are not worth the paper
they are written on and the court proceedings are fairly characterized as a sham. The effect of it
is described by Professor Perlin:
"Its toxin infects all participants in the judicial system, breeds cynicism and disrespect for the
law. Demeans participants, and reinforces shoddy lawyering, blase judging, and, at times, perjurious
and/or corrupt testifying. The reality is well known to frequent customers of judicial services in
this area: to mental health advocates and other public defender/legal aid/legal service lawyers
assigned to represent patients and criminal defendants who are mentally disabled, to prosecutors and
state attorneys assigned to represent hospitals, to judges who regularly hear such cases, to expert
and lay witnesses…" Sanist Attitudes, supra.
Before you guys post unqualified postings that a person should be committed or drugged, just because
she is of other opinions and thinks differently than you do, pull out the law books as I do and
operate within the laws.
Barbara Schwarz (the real one)
P.S. Postings with e-mail address [email hidden] and identity Barbara_Schwarz are
not done by me. Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff in
Los Angeles. And Frederic Rice is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and greasy punch
bag is an impressive man.
----------------------------------------------
Linda Anderson religiousfreedomwatch.organdersenl1.html Gerald Armstrong
religiousfreedomwatch.orgarmstrong1.html Jim Beebe
religiousfreedomwatch.orgbeebej1.html Graham Berry
religiousfreedomwatch.orgberry.html David Bird
religiousfreedomwatch.orgbirdd1.html Tory Christman
religiousfreedomwatch.orgchristmant4.html Ursula Caberta
religiousfreedomwatch.orgcaberta.html Ida Camburn
religiousfreedomwatch.orgcamburn1.html Joe Cisar
religiousfreedomwatch.orgcisarj1.html Robert Clark
religiousfreedomwatch.orgclark1.html Elizabeth Ann Cox
religiousfreedomwatch.orgcoxea1.html Mark Dallara
religiousfreedomwatch.orgdallara1.html Alexander Dvorkin
religiousfreedomwatch.orgdvorkin1.html Valerie Emanuel
religiousfreedomwatch.orgemanuelv1.html Steven Fishman
religiousfreedomwatch.orgfishman1.html Vickki Ford Cook
religiousfreedomwatch.orgfordv1.html Phil Georgi
religiousfreedomwatch.orgjacobsen6.html Scott Goehring
religiousfreedomwatch.orggoehrings1.html Roger Gonnet
religiousfreedomwatch.orggonnet1.html Barbara Graham
religiousfreedomwatch.orggraham1.html Gregg Hagglund
religiousfreedomwatch.orghagglund1.html Steve Hassan
religiousfreedomwatch.orghassan1.html Tilman Hausherr
religiousfreedomwatch.orghauser1.html Andreas Heldal-Lund
religiousfreedomwatch.orglund1.html Keith Henson
religiousfreedomwatch.orghenson1.html Deana Holmes
religiousfreedomwatch.orgholmes1.html Jeff Jacobsen
religiousfreedomwatch.orgjacobsen1.html Patrick Jost
religiousfreedomwatch.orgjost1.html Charlotte Kates
religiousfreedomwatch.orgkatesc1.html Rod Keller
religiousfreedomwatch.orgkeller1.html Steven Kent
religiousfreedomwatch.orgkent1.html Arnie Lerma
religiousfreedomwatch.orglerma1.html Joe Lynn
religiousfreedomwatch.orglynn1.html Ted Mayett
religiousfreedomwatch.orgmayett1.html Frank Oliver
religiousfreedomwatch.orgoliver.html Kady O'Malley
religiousfreedomwatch.orgomalley1.html Zenon Panoussis
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpanoussis1.html Ted Patrick
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpatrick1.html Michael Pattinson
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpattinsonm1.html Robert Peterson
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpeterson1.html Bruce/Kathleen Pettycrew
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpettycrew.html Jesse Prince
religiousfreedomwatch.orgprince1.html Roland Rashleigh-Berry
religiousfreedomwatch.orgrashleighb1.html David Rice
religiousfreedomwatch.orgriced.html Fred Rice
religiousfreedomwatch.orgricef.html Rick Ross
religiousfreedomwatch.orgrossr1.html Karin Spaink
religiousfreedomwatch.orgspaink1.html David Touretzky
religiousfreedomwatch.orgtouretzky1.html Alan Walter
religiousfreedomwatch.orgwalter1.html Grady Ward
religiousfreedomwatch.orgward.html Johan Wevers
religiousfreedomwatch.orgweversj1.html Hana/Jerry Whitfield
religiousfreedomwatch.orgwhitfield1.html Larry Wollersheim
religiousfreedomwatch.orgwollersheim1.html Sten-Arne Zerpe
religiousfreedomwatch.orgzerpesa1.html
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Corkscrew
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8 January 2004, 10:33 UTC #2

Truth Speaker said:
Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and smart. Most of you ARS
posters aren't.
I don't give a tinker's cuss about $cientology, but for God's sake stop bothering ASH with
this [censored].
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Corkscrew
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Sam Hill
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8 January 2004, 10:33 UTC #3

Barbara Schwarz Truth Speaker,
Well done, compiling quotations for a topic, including credits and hyperlinks. Maybe we'd take the
advice if we had access to these documents, but definitely we'd bother to take a "College Level
English Composition Course" before attempting to make a credible argument on a professional level.
Then, we'd write on a level appropriate for the audience. This is like taking Shakespeare to Harlem
expecting to carry on a conversation with a crack addict. Truth Speaker won't follow her postings
anyway, so a response is mute.
Sam Hill, Last Grade Completed: 3rd Grade
Quoted message said:
"Its toxin infects all participants in the judicial system, breeds cynicism and disrespect for the
law. Demeans participants, and reinforces shoddy lawyering, blase judging, and, at times,
perjurious and/or corrupt testifying. The reality is well known to frequent customers of judicial
services in this area: to mental health advocates and other public defender/legal aid/legal
service lawyers assigned to represent patients and criminal defendants who are mentally disabled,
to prosecutors and state attorneys assigned to represent hospitals, to judges who regularly hear
such cases, to expert and lay witnesses." Sanist Attitudes, supra.
Before you guys post unqualified postings that a person should be committed or drugged, just
because she is of other opinions and thinks differently than you do, pull out the law books as I
do and operate within the laws.

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Kleverbastard
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8 January 2004, 10:33 UTC #4

Oh dear.............Barbara troll, you need to get out more
(Truth Speaker) said:
Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and smart. Most of you ARS
posters aren't. Read below to get a bit smarter. If psychs would come to get me, they would hear a
lot of legal statutory language and trust me, they would be pretty much stressed to respond
adequately. 🙂
There is ...a sphere within which the individual may assert the supremacy of his own will and
rightfully dispute the authority of any human government, especially of any free government
existing under a written constitution, to interfer with the excercise of that will. Jacobsen v.
Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11, 29 (1905).
(Not Jeff Jacobsen, he doesn't write smart, but he could be that old, probably wearing Depends and
that gave him perhaps the idea to dramatize Gandhi.)
A person's intellect is surely within that protected sphere. The right of a person to liberty,
autonomy and privacy over his or her own thought process is situated at the core of what it means
to be a free person. It is essential to the most elementary concepts of human freedom, dignity, and
self-expression, and demands this court's steadfast protection. The right to sovereignty over one's
own thought processes is the quintessence of freedom, and is protected by the First Amendment.
This is important for the people to know, who scream that I should be forcefully medicated,
and committed, because I dare to speak my mind. ARS extremist and friends, can you follow? Try
at least...
The First Amendment protects communciation of virtually all kinds whether in writing, verbal,
pictural, or any symbolic form, and whether cognitive or emotive in nature.
The First Amendment, declared by the court in West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette,
319 U.S. 624 (1943), gives a constitutional preference for "individual freedom of mind" over
"officially disciplined uniformity for which history indicates a disappointing and disastrous end".
Professor Thomas Emerson said in The System of Freedom of Expression 21-22: "Forming or holding a
belief occurs prior to expression. But it is the first stage in the processes of expression, and it
tends to progress into expression. Hence safeguarding the right to form and hold beliefs is
essential in maintaining a system of freedom of expression. Freedom of belief, therefore, must be
held included within the protection of the First Amendment.
We can have intellectual individualism and the rich cultural diversities that we owe to exceptional
minds only at the price of occasional eccentricity and abnormal attitudes. 319 U.S. 624.
Do you hear that Karin Spaink who talks people into committing suicide? Abnormal attitude...
I hope it will become one day clear to you guys that I have the exceptional mind, while you
hecklers have the kind of remaining kind of minds.
Are you still with me, Tory Christman, Tigger, Sally Goodman, Frederic Rice, Garry Scarff and all
the other people that live in the dark? I know you have a hard time understanding that, but apply
L. Ron Hubbard's study technology and things will become clearer. 🙂
And listen up, David Rice and all you folks who promote psychiatric drugs. These drugs "alter the
chemical balance in a patient's brain, leading to changes...in his or her cognitive processes".
Harper, 494 U.S. at 229. See, dirty Rice boy, that is your problem. With your drugs you can't have
the cognitions that you need to turn your life around and to become truly something worth.
"...the physical and mental side effects of the drugs might be unacceptable, even dangerous".
Harper, 494 U.S. at 238. Even in the absence of physical and mental "side effects" the fact remains
that anti psychotic drugs strongly affect thought processes.
It should be noted that anti psychotic drugs do not cure mental illness; rather they suppress the
symptoms of the illness. See Gerald Davidson & John Neale, Abnormal Psychology 305 (8th ed 2001).
If that is not enough reasons to spit that stuff out, but be careful when Garry Scarff spits, he
has AIDS.
By forcing a person to take mind-altering drug against his or her will, the government is
commandeering that person's mind, and forcibly changing his or her alibity to formulate particular
thoughts. In re Guardianship of Roe, 421 N.E.2d 40, 52-3 (1981), ("the impact of the chemcials upon
the brain is sufficient to undermine the foundation of personality.)
Are you now finally a bit smarter, Dave Touretzky, Arnie Lerma, Roger Gonnet and Barb Graham Warr?
The First Amendment protects the communication of ideas, which itself implies protection of the
capacity to produce ideas. Antipsychiotic drugs have the capacity to severly and even permanently
affect an individual's to think and communicate. Bee, 744 F2d at 1393-94.
That's why so many ARS posters post as they have an impaired brain and mind. They pop those stupid
and dangerous drugs.
Psychiatry is not an exact science, and psychiatrists disagree widely and frequently on what
constitutes mental illness, on the appropriate diagnosis to be attached to given behavior and
symptoms, on cure and treatment..." Ake v. Oklahoma, 470 U.S. 68, 81 (1985). See also Ennis &
Litwack, Psychiatry and the Presumption of Expertise: Flipping coins in the courtroom, 62 Cal. L.
rev. 693, 697-708, 729-32 (1974).
See, Joe Lynn, you and the other extremists below were just lucky that you are not in an
institution forcefully medicated. Hey, and think about Dave Bird roaming streets with his
pants down!
There can be no doubt that commitment to a mental institution results in a "massive curtailment of
liberty", Humphrey v. Cady 405 U.S. 504,
509.
No, that is not Kady O'Malley, but her actions are pretty crazy. Who knows, perhaps Mountain Police
want to institutionalize her and that is why she fears them?
Anyway, Persons incarcerated in mental hospitals are not only deprived of their physical liberty,
they are also deprived of friends, family and community. 442 U.S. 584, 627.
Tilman Hausherr, can you please make sure that the German psychs, the butchers of Munich get a copy
of that and stick it behind their blood crusted mirrors? So should you, as you are such a fan of
those butchers, right?
It turns out that psychiatrists, with the full understanding and tacit permission of the trial
judges, regularly lie in court to obtain involuntary commitment and forced medication orders.
Michael L. Perlin, Journal of Law and Health 1993/1994, 8 JLHealth 15, 33-34 in "Can Sanist
Attitudes Be Undone?" The psychiatric profession explicitly acknowledged psychiatrists regularly
lie to the courts in order to obtain forced treatment orders.
Those "saints"... and what a destructive cult psychiatry is!
E. Fuller Torrey, M.D. one of the prominent proponent of involuntary psychiatric treatment said:
"It would probably be difficult to find any American psychiatrist working with the mentally ill
who has not, at a minimum, exaggerated the dangerousness of a mental ill person's behavior to
obtain a judicial order for commitment. Torey E. Fuller, 1997 Out of the Shadows.
What is no doubt shocking to Americans who have experienced the referred to psychiatry process, it
turns out that the legal protections for people diagnosed as mentally ill are not worth the paper
they are written on and the court proceedings are fairly characterized as a sham. The effect of it
is described by Professor Perlin:
"Its toxin infects all participants in the judicial system, breeds cynicism and disrespect for the
law. Demeans participants, and reinforces shoddy lawyering, blase judging, and, at times,
perjurious and/or corrupt testifying. The reality is well known to frequent customers of judicial
services in this area: to mental health advocates and other public defender/legal aid/legal service
lawyers assigned to represent patients and criminal defendants who are mentally disabled, to
prosecutors and state attorneys assigned to represent hospitals, to judges who regularly hear such
cases, to expert and lay witnesses…" Sanist Attitudes, supra.
Before you guys post unqualified postings that a person should be committed or drugged, just
because she is of other opinions and thinks differently than you do, pull out the law books as I do
and operate within the laws.
Barbara Schwarz (the real one)
P.S. Postings with e-mail address [email hidden] and identity Barbara_Schwarz are
not done by me. Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff
in Los Angeles. And Frederic Rice is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and greasy
punch bag is an impressive man.
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religiousfreedomwatch.orgbeebej1.html Graham Berry
religiousfreedomwatch.orgberry.html David Bird
religiousfreedomwatch.orgbirdd1.html Tory Christman
religiousfreedomwatch.orgchristmant4.html Ursula Caberta
religiousfreedomwatch.orgcaberta.html Ida Camburn
religiousfreedomwatch.orgcamburn1.html Joe Cisar
religiousfreedomwatch.orgcisarj1.html Robert Clark
religiousfreedomwatch.orgclark1.html Elizabeth Ann Cox
religiousfreedomwatch.orgcoxea1.html Mark Dallara
religiousfreedomwatch.orgdallara1.html Alexander Dvorkin
religiousfreedomwatch.orgdvorkin1.html Valerie Emanuel
religiousfreedomwatch.orgemanuelv1.html Steven Fishman
religiousfreedomwatch.orgfishman1.html Vickki Ford Cook
religiousfreedomwatch.orgfordv1.html Phil Georgi
religiousfreedomwatch.orgjacobsen6.html Scott Goehring
religiousfreedomwatch.orggoehrings1.html Roger Gonnet
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religiousfreedomwatch.orggraham1.html Gregg Hagglund
religiousfreedomwatch.orghagglund1.html Steve Hassan
religiousfreedomwatch.orghassan1.html Tilman Hausherr
religiousfreedomwatch.orghauser1.html Andreas Heldal-Lund
religiousfreedomwatch.orglund1.html Keith Henson
religiousfreedomwatch.orghenson1.html Deana Holmes
religiousfreedomwatch.orgholmes1.html Jeff Jacobsen
religiousfreedomwatch.orgjacobsen1.html Patrick Jost
religiousfreedomwatch.orgjost1.html Charlotte Kates
religiousfreedomwatch.orgkatesc1.html Rod Keller
religiousfreedomwatch.orgkeller1.html Steven Kent
religiousfreedomwatch.orgkent1.html Arnie Lerma
religiousfreedomwatch.orglerma1.html Joe Lynn
religiousfreedomwatch.orglynn1.html Ted Mayett
religiousfreedomwatch.orgmayett1.html Frank Oliver
religiousfreedomwatch.orgoliver.html Kady O'Malley
religiousfreedomwatch.orgomalley1.html Zenon Panoussis
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpanoussis1.html Ted Patrick
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpatrick1.html Michael Pattinson
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpattinsonm1.html Robert Peterson
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpeterson1.html Bruce/Kathleen Pettycrew
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpettycrew.html Jesse Prince
religiousfreedomwatch.orgprince1.html Roland Rashleigh-Berry
religiousfreedomwatch.orgrashleighb1.html David Rice
religiousfreedomwatch.orgriced.html Fred Rice
religiousfreedomwatch.orgricef.html Rick Ross
religiousfreedomwatch.orgrossr1.html Karin Spaink
religiousfreedomwatch.orgspaink1.html David Touretzky
religiousfreedomwatch.orgtouretzky1.html Alan Walter
religiousfreedomwatch.orgwalter1.html Grady Ward
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8 January 2004, 10:33 UTC #5

[email hidden] (Truth Speaker) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and smart. Most of you ARS
posters aren't.
LOL. Boobie Schwartz is the reason why critics have migraines.
snip of Schwartz-spew
Quoted message said:
Before you guys post unqualified postings that a person should be committed or drugged, just
because she is of other opinions and thinks differently than you do, pull out the law books as I
do and operate within the laws.
LOL. Yep, telling gross lies and filing frivolous lawsuits is operating within the laws,
alright. <snicker>
Quoted message said:

Barbara Schwartz (the pathetically dumbass one)
P.S. Postings with e-mail address [email hidden] and identity Barbara_Schwarz
are not done by me. Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn
Scarff in Los Angeles.
THIS IS A CRIMINAL FORGERY. I HAVE COMPLAINED TO YOUR ISP...THE SAME ONE THAT CANCELLED YOUR
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8 January 2004, 10:33 UTC #6

[email hidden] (Truth Speaker) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and smart. Most of you ARS
posters aren't. Read below to get a bit smarter. If psychs would come to get me, they would hear a
lot of legal statutory language and trust me, they would be pretty much stressed to respond
adequately. 🙂
Hogwash. Every single psychiatrist that has ever talked to you or analyzed you claimed you to be a
hopeless lunatic.
TS

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Madhatter
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8 January 2004, 10:33 UTC #7

Barbara_Schwarz wrote:
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this or any other group again! who has the attention span to read pages
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8 January 2004, 15:16 UTC #8

[email hidden] (Truth Speaker) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and smart.Most of you ARS
posters aren't. Read below to get a bit smarter. If psychs would come to get me, they would hear a
lot of legal statutory language and trust me, they would be pretty much stressed to respond
adequately. 🙂
This is called lacking insight, when the insane declares him/her self sane and anyone opposing -
insane.No matter what majority of people - whole world even - then the world is insane but not
"me". Get it?
Quoted message said:
All references to the First Amendment, does , I would guess, not comply to the mentally insane, not
being at their "normal" faculties and hence not able to express , because of their illnes-disease,
their true will or thoughts of mind.
Quoted message said:
I hope it will become one day clear to you guys that I have the exceptional mind, while you
hecklers have the kind of remaining kind of minds.
This is called a touch of grandeure or megalomaniac ideation.
Quoted message said:

And listen up, David Rice and all you folks who promote psychiatric drugs. These drugs "alter the
chemical balance in a patient's brain, leading to changes...in his or her cognitive processes".
Harper, 494 U.S. at 229. See, dirty Rice boy, that is your problem. With your drugs you can't have
the cognitions that you need to turn your life around and to become truly something worth.
Yes psychiatric drugs do alter brain chemical balance - from abnormal to normal. That´s the whole
idea , so you can have your needed cognitions working for you instead of against you.
Quoted message said:

It should be noted that anti psychotic drugs do not cure mental illness; rather they suppress the
symptoms of the illness. See Gerald Davidson & John Neale, Abnormal Psychology 305 (8th ed 2001).
Absolutely correct as stated just above!
Quoted message said:
By forcing a person to take mind-altering drug against his or her will, the government is
commandeering that person's mind, and forcibly changing his or her alibity to formulate particular
thoughts.
Especially the sick ones , as shown in symptoms of paranoia, grandeure etcetera.
Quoted message said:
Psychiatry is not an exact science, and psychiatrists disagree widely and frequently on what
constitutes mental illness, on the appropriate diagnosis to be attached to given behavior and
symptoms, on cure and treatment..." Ake v. Oklahoma, 470 U.S. 68, 81 (1985). See also Ennis &
Litwack, Psychiatry and the Presumption of Expertise: Flipping coins in the courtroom, 62 Cal. L.
rev. 693, 697-708, 729-32 (1974).
There are no exact science whatsoever- period!
Quoted message said:
There can be no doubt that commitment to a mental institution results in a "massive curtailment of
liberty", Humphrey v. Cady 405 U.S. 504,
509.
Selfexplanatory statement - thats why commitment must be preceded by careful examination and the
ethical "cost" of forced care must be clearly balanced and formulated in the gains of the upcoming
care ,before commitment.
Quoted message said:

It turns out that psychiatrists, with the full understanding and tacit permission of the trial
judges, regularly lie in court to obtain involuntary commitment and forced medication orders.
Michael L. Perlin, Journal of Law and Health 1993/1994, 8 JLHealth 15, 33-34 in "Can Sanist
Attitudes Be Undone?" The psychiatric profession explicitly acknowledged psychiatrists regularly
lie to the courts in order to obtain forced treatment orders.
This may not be alltogether untrue. It is a well known fact that you can´t write a perfect law -
that lawmakers are laypeople in all other areas than the judicial, that "interpretations" of the law
sometimes are made to "bend" the law in a preferred direction , hopefully for the better.Most
doctors are bound by their professional ethics (Hippocrate)and acts for the better of their patients
even if it could mean braking one law to uphold another. As long as the patients benefits in the end
, it could be the ethically correct action to take.
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8 January 2004, 19:17 UTC #9

[email hidden] (Truth_Speaker_2) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
[email hidden] (Truth Speaker) wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and smart. Most of you ARS
posters aren't. Read below to get a bit smarter. If psychs would come to get me, they would hear
a lot of legal statutory language and trust me, they would be pretty much stressed to respond
adequately. 🙂
Hogwash. Every single psychiatrist that has ever talked to you or analyzed you claimed you to be a
hopeless lunatic.
TS
Lol. And who might those psychiatrists be, Garry Scarffbag? They are all in your AIDS pus filled
head and nowhere else.
Barbara Schwarz (the real one)
P.S. Postings with e-mail address [email hidden] and identity Barbara_Schwarz are
not done by me. Same applies for the Truthspeaker 2.Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids
infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff in Los Angeles. And Frederic Rice is as little a de
Rothschild as a dirty slimy and greasy punch bag is an impressive man.
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religiousfreedomwatch.orgbirdd1.html Tory Christman
religiousfreedomwatch.orgchristmant4.html Ursula Caberta
religiousfreedomwatch.orgcaberta.html Ida Camburn
religiousfreedomwatch.orgcamburn1.html Joe Cisar
religiousfreedomwatch.orgcisarj1.html Robert Clark
religiousfreedomwatch.orgclark1.html Elizabeth Ann Cox
religiousfreedomwatch.orgcoxea1.html Mark Dallara
religiousfreedomwatch.orgdallara1.html Alexander Dvorkin
religiousfreedomwatch.orgdvorkin1.html Valerie Emanuel
religiousfreedomwatch.orgemanuelv1.html Steven Fishman
religiousfreedomwatch.orgfishman1.html Vickki Ford Cook
religiousfreedomwatch.orgfordv1.html Phil Georgi
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religiousfreedomwatch.orggraham1.html Gregg Hagglund
religiousfreedomwatch.orghagglund1.html Steve Hassan
religiousfreedomwatch.orghassan1.html Tilman Hausherr
religiousfreedomwatch.orghauser1.html Andreas Heldal-Lund
religiousfreedomwatch.orglund1.html Keith Henson
religiousfreedomwatch.orghenson1.html Deana Holmes
religiousfreedomwatch.orgholmes1.html Jeff Jacobsen
religiousfreedomwatch.orgjacobsen1.html Patrick Jost
religiousfreedomwatch.orgjost1.html Charlotte Kates
religiousfreedomwatch.orgkatesc1.html Rod Keller
religiousfreedomwatch.orgkeller1.html Steven Kent
religiousfreedomwatch.orgkent1.html Arnie Lerma
religiousfreedomwatch.orglerma1.html Joe Lynn
religiousfreedomwatch.orglynn1.html Ted Mayett
religiousfreedomwatch.orgmayett1.html Frank Oliver
religiousfreedomwatch.orgoliver.html Kady O'Malley
religiousfreedomwatch.orgomalley1.html Zenon Panoussis
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpanoussis1.html Ted Patrick
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpatrick1.html Michael Pattinson
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpattinsonm1.html Robert Peterson
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpeterson1.html Bruce/Kathleen Pettycrew
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpettycrew.html Jesse Prince
religiousfreedomwatch.orgprince1.html Roland Rashleigh-Berry
religiousfreedomwatch.orgrashleighb1.html David Rice
religiousfreedomwatch.orgriced.html Fred Rice
religiousfreedomwatch.orgricef.html Rick Ross
religiousfreedomwatch.orgrossr1.html Karin Spaink
religiousfreedomwatch.orgspaink1.html David Touretzky
religiousfreedomwatch.orgtouretzky1.html Alan Walter
religiousfreedomwatch.orgwalter1.html Grady Ward
religiousfreedomwatch.orgward.html Johan Wevers
religiousfreedomwatch.orgweversj1.html Hana/Jerry Whitfield
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8 January 2004, 19:17 UTC #10

"Sam Hill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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Barbara Schwarz Truth Speaker,
Go e.g. to www.findlaw.com, Sam and everybody else, type in the topic mentioned or go to your law
library and ask a librarian to find those references.
Have a nice day, and try to get to the 4th Grade. 🙂
I am applying L. Ron Hubbard's study technology, so can everybody else. If you do, no text is
difficult anymore.
Barbara Schwarz (the real one)
P.S. Postings with e-mail address [email hidden] and identity Barbara_Schwarz are
not done by me. Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff in
Los Angeles. And Frederic Rice is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and greasy punch
bag is an impressive man.
aros.net~barbarasch
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religiousfreedomwatch.orgcoxea1.html Mark Dallara
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religiousfreedomwatch.orgdvorkin1.html Valerie Emanuel
religiousfreedomwatch.orgemanuelv1.html Steven Fishman
religiousfreedomwatch.orgfishman1.html Vickki Ford Cook
religiousfreedomwatch.orgfordv1.html Phil Georgi
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religiousfreedomwatch.orghenson1.html Deana Holmes
religiousfreedomwatch.orgholmes1.html Jeff Jacobsen
religiousfreedomwatch.orgjacobsen1.html Patrick Jost
religiousfreedomwatch.orgjost1.html Charlotte Kates
religiousfreedomwatch.orgkatesc1.html Rod Keller
religiousfreedomwatch.orgkeller1.html Steven Kent
religiousfreedomwatch.orgkent1.html Arnie Lerma
religiousfreedomwatch.orglerma1.html Joe Lynn
religiousfreedomwatch.orglynn1.html Ted Mayett
religiousfreedomwatch.orgmayett1.html Frank Oliver
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religiousfreedomwatch.orgomalley1.html Zenon Panoussis
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpanoussis1.html Ted Patrick
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpatrick1.html Michael Pattinson
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpattinsonm1.html Robert Peterson
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpeterson1.html Bruce/Kathleen Pettycrew
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpettycrew.html Jesse Prince
religiousfreedomwatch.orgprince1.html Roland Rashleigh-Berry
religiousfreedomwatch.orgrashleighb1.html David Rice
religiousfreedomwatch.orgriced.html Fred Rice
religiousfreedomwatch.orgricef.html Rick Ross
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religiousfreedomwatch.orgspaink1.html David Touretzky
religiousfreedomwatch.orgtouretzky1.html Alan Walter
religiousfreedomwatch.orgwalter1.html Grady Ward
religiousfreedomwatch.orgward.html Johan Wevers
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Quoted message said:

Well done, compiling quotations for a topic, including credits and
hyperlinks.
Maybe we'd take the advice if we had access to these documents, but
definitely
we'd bother to take a "College Level English Composition Course" before
attempting to
make a credible argument on a professional level. Then, we'd write on a
level appropriate
for the audience. This is like taking Shakespeare to Harlem expecting to
carry on a
conversation with a crack addict. Truth Speaker won't follow her postings
anyway,
so a response is mute.
Sam Hill, Last Grade Completed: 3rd Grade
Quoted message said:
"Its toxin infects all participants in the judicial system, breeds
cynicism and disrespect for the law. Demeans participants, and
reinforces shoddy lawyering, blase judging, and, at times, perjurious
and/or corrupt testifying. The reality is well known to frequent
customers of judicial services in this area: to mental health
advocates and other public defender/legal aid/legal service lawyers
assigned to represent patients and criminal defendants who are
mentally disabled, to prosecutors and state attorneys assigned to
represent hospitals, to judges who regularly hear such cases, to
expert and lay witnesses." Sanist Attitudes, supra.
Before you guys post unqualified postings that a person should be
committed or drugged, just because she is of other opinions and thinks
differently than you do, pull out the law books as I do and operate
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8 January 2004, 19:17 UTC #11

MadHatter <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
Barbara_Schwarz wrote:
<snipped [censored]>
Quoted message said:
this or any other group again! who has the attention span to read pages
Quoted message said:

PLONK
That is not me, you idiot. Barbara_Schwarz is cyber criminal Garry Scarff. Can't you read? Just is
the AIDS virus, he is everywhere!
Barbara Schwarz (the real one)
P.S. Postings with e-mail address [email hidden] and identity Barbara_Schwarz are
not done by me. Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff in
Los Angeles. And Frederic Rice is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and greasy punch
bag is an impressive man.
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religiousfreedomwatch.orgarmstrong1.html Jim Beebe
religiousfreedomwatch.orgbeebej1.html Graham Berry
religiousfreedomwatch.orgberry.html David Bird
religiousfreedomwatch.orgbirdd1.html Tory Christman
religiousfreedomwatch.orgchristmant4.html Ursula Caberta
religiousfreedomwatch.orgcaberta.html Ida Camburn
religiousfreedomwatch.orgcamburn1.html Joe Cisar
religiousfreedomwatch.orgcisarj1.html Robert Clark
religiousfreedomwatch.orgclark1.html Elizabeth Ann Cox
religiousfreedomwatch.orgcoxea1.html Mark Dallara
religiousfreedomwatch.orgdallara1.html Alexander Dvorkin
religiousfreedomwatch.orgdvorkin1.html Valerie Emanuel
religiousfreedomwatch.orgemanuelv1.html Steven Fishman
religiousfreedomwatch.orgfishman1.html Vickki Ford Cook
religiousfreedomwatch.orgfordv1.html Phil Georgi
religiousfreedomwatch.orgjacobsen6.html Scott Goehring
religiousfreedomwatch.orggoehrings1.html Roger Gonnet
religiousfreedomwatch.orggonnet1.html Barbara Graham
religiousfreedomwatch.orggraham1.html Gregg Hagglund
religiousfreedomwatch.orghagglund1.html Steve Hassan
religiousfreedomwatch.orghassan1.html Tilman Hausherr
religiousfreedomwatch.orghauser1.html Andreas Heldal-Lund
religiousfreedomwatch.orglund1.html Keith Henson
religiousfreedomwatch.orghenson1.html Deana Holmes
religiousfreedomwatch.orgholmes1.html Jeff Jacobsen
religiousfreedomwatch.orgjacobsen1.html Patrick Jost
religiousfreedomwatch.orgjost1.html Charlotte Kates
religiousfreedomwatch.orgkatesc1.html Rod Keller
religiousfreedomwatch.orgkeller1.html Steven Kent
religiousfreedomwatch.orgkent1.html Arnie Lerma
religiousfreedomwatch.orglerma1.html Joe Lynn
religiousfreedomwatch.orglynn1.html Ted Mayett
religiousfreedomwatch.orgmayett1.html Frank Oliver
religiousfreedomwatch.orgoliver.html Kady O'Malley
religiousfreedomwatch.orgomalley1.html Zenon Panoussis
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpanoussis1.html Ted Patrick
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpatrick1.html Michael Pattinson
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpattinsonm1.html Robert Peterson
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpeterson1.html Bruce/Kathleen Pettycrew
religiousfreedomwatch.orgpettycrew.html Jesse Prince
religiousfreedomwatch.orgprince1.html Roland Rashleigh-Berry
religiousfreedomwatch.orgrashleighb1.html David Rice
religiousfreedomwatch.orgriced.html Fred Rice
religiousfreedomwatch.orgricef.html Rick Ross
religiousfreedomwatch.orgrossr1.html Karin Spaink
religiousfreedomwatch.orgspaink1.html David Touretzky
religiousfreedomwatch.orgtouretzky1.html Alan Walter
religiousfreedomwatch.orgwalter1.html Grady Ward
religiousfreedomwatch.orgward.html Johan Wevers
religiousfreedomwatch.orgweversj1.html Hana/Jerry Whitfield
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[email hidden] ([email hidden]) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
[email hidden] (Truth Speaker) wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and smart.Most of you ARS
posters aren't. Read below to get a bit smarter. If psychs would come to get me, they would hear
a lot of legal statutory language and trust me, they would be pretty much stressed to respond
adequately. 🙂
This is called lacking insight, when the insane declares him/her self sane and anyone opposing -
insane.No matter what majority of people - whole world even - then the world is insane but not
"me". Get it?
I have no troubles to get this, I hope you posted that for the other posters. 🙂 That is exactly
*their* problem.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
All references to the First Amendment, does , I would guess, not comply to the mentally insane,
not being at their "normal" faculties and hence not able to express , because of their illnes-
disease, their true will or thoughts of mind.
It is about that anybody should be allowed to think and speak out without that others gang up on
that person to get her silenced in an institution or otherwise.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
I hope it will become one day clear to you guys that I have the exceptional mind, while you
hecklers have the kind of remaining kind of minds.
This is called a touch of grandeure or megalomaniac ideation.
Huh?
Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

And listen up, David Rice and all you folks who promote psychiatric drugs. These drugs "alter
the chemical balance in a patient's brain, leading to changes...in his or her cognitive
processes". Harper, 494 U.S. at 229. See, dirty Rice boy, that is your problem. With your drugs
you can't have the cognitions that you need to turn your life around and to become truly
something worth.
Yes psychiatric drugs do alter brain chemical balance - from abnormal to normal. That´s the whole
idea , so you can have your needed cognitions working for you instead of against you.
You did not get it at all. They PREVENT you from having cognitions. If you would not take that stuff
you probably would have a chance to understand that.
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Quoted message said:

It should be noted that anti psychotic drugs do not cure mental illness; rather they suppress
the symptoms of the illness. See Gerald Davidson & John Neale, Abnormal Psychology 305 (8th ed
2001).
Absolutely correct as stated just above!
Quoted message said:
By forcing a person to take mind-altering drug against his or her will, the government is
commandeering that person's mind, and forcibly changing his or her alibity to formulate
particular thoughts.
Especially the sick ones , as shown in symptoms of paranoia, grandeure etcetera.
Any person has the right to own ideas and psychs should not try to get into the mind forcibly.
Quoted message said:
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Psychiatry is not an exact science, and psychiatrists disagree widely and frequently on what
constitutes mental illness, on the appropriate diagnosis to be attached to given behavior and
symptoms, on cure and treatment..." Ake v. Oklahoma, 470 U.S. 68, 81 (1985). See also Ennis &
Litwack, Psychiatry and the Presumption of Expertise: Flipping coins in the courtroom, 62 Cal.
L. rev. 693, 697-708, 729-32 (1974).
There are no exact science whatsoever- period!
Not true. Physics is rather exact. Original SCN was exact.
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There can be no doubt that commitment to a mental institution results in a "massive curtailment
of liberty", Humphrey v. Cady 405 U.S. 504,
509.
Selfexplanatory statement - thats why commitment must be preceded by careful examination and the
ethical "cost" of forced care must be clearly balanced and formulated in the gains of the upcoming
care ,before commitment.
Psychs are unethical, as you read below. They lie to get people committed.
Quoted message said:
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It turns out that psychiatrists, with the full understanding and tacit permission of the trial
judges, regularly lie in court to obtain involuntary commitment and forced medication orders.
Michael L. Perlin, Journal of Law and Health 1993/1994, 8 JLHealth 15, 33-34 in "Can Sanist
Attitudes Be Undone?" The psychiatric profession explicitly acknowledged psychiatrists regularly
lie to the courts in order to obtain forced treatment orders.
This may not be alltogether untrue.
It is correct because I have also seen it happen.
It is a well known fact that you
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can´t write a perfect law - that lawmakers are laypeople in all other areas than the judicial,
that "interpretations" of the law sometimes are made to "bend" the law in a preferred direction ,
hopefully for the better.
It is not about an accidential mistake. They lie to get patients!
Most doctors are bound by their professional ethics
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(Hippocrate)and acts for the better of their patients even if it could mean braking one law to
uphold another. As long as the patients benefits in the end , it could be the ethically correct
action to take.
Dream one. I met so many unethical doctors (not only psychs) and they acted as they never heard
from the Hippocrate Oath. So many patients have to die or suffer under their negligence or
arbitrary actions.
Hippocrate reminds me a lot to Hypocrite!
Barbara Schwarz (the real one)
P.S. Postings with e-mail address [email hidden] and identity Barbara_Schwarz and
Truth Speaker 2 are not done by me. Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic
Garry Lynn Scarff in Los Angeles. And Frederic Rice is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty
slimy and greasy punch bag is an impressive man.
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[email hidden] (TheoneTheonly) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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[email hidden] ([email hidden]) wrote in message
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[email hidden] (Truth Speaker) wrote in message
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Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and smart.Most of you ARS
posters aren't. Read below to get a bit smarter. If psychs would come to get me, they would
hear a lot of legal statutory language and trust me, they would be pretty much stressed to
respond adequately. 🙂
This is called lacking insight, when the insane declares him/her self sane and anyone opposing -
insane.No matter what majority of people - whole world even - then the world is insane but not
"me". Get it?
I have no troubles to get this, I hope you posted that for the other posters. 🙂 That is exactly
*their* problem.
No matter what majority of people - whole world even - then the world is insane but not
"me". Get it?
I rest my case!
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All references to the First Amendment, does , I would guess, not comply to the mentally insane,
not being at their "normal" faculties and hence not able to express , because of their illnes-
disease, their true will or thoughts of mind.
It is about that anybody should be allowed to think and speak out without that others gang up on
that person to get her silenced in an institution or otherwise.
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I hope it will become one day clear to you guys that I have the exceptional mind, while you
hecklers have the kind of remaining kind of minds.
This is called a touch of grandeure or megalomaniac ideation.
Huh?
I rest my case!
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And listen up, David Rice and all you folks who promote psychiatric drugs. These drugs "alter
the chemical balance in a patient's brain, leading to changes...in his or her cognitive
processes". Harper, 494 U.S. at 229. See, dirty Rice boy, that is your problem. With your
drugs you can't have the cognitions that you need to turn your life around and to become truly
something worth.
Yes psychiatric drugs do alter brain chemical balance - from abnormal to normal. That´s the
whole idea , so you can have your needed cognitions working for you instead of against you.
You did not get it at all. They PREVENT you from having cognitions. If you would not take that
stuff you probably would have a chance to understand that.
I suppose , being a psychiatrist , that I just possibly know a little bit more about these things
than any layman / laywoman as yourself, huh?
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
It should be noted that anti psychotic drugs do not cure mental illness; rather they suppress
the symptoms of the illness. See Gerald Davidson & John Neale, Abnormal Psychology 305 (8th ed
2001).
Absolutely correct as stated just above!
Quoted message said:
By forcing a person to take mind-altering drug against his or her will, the government is
commandeering that person's mind, and forcibly changing his or her alibity to formulate
particular thoughts.
Especially the sick ones , as shown in symptoms of paranoia, grandeure etcetera.
Any person has the right to own ideas and psychs should not try to get into the mind forcibly.
Not even if you save thier life by doing so,huh?
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:
Psychiatry is not an exact science, and psychiatrists disagree widely and frequently on what
constitutes mental illness, on the appropriate diagnosis to be attached to given behavior and
symptoms, on cure and treatment..." Ake v. Oklahoma, 470 U.S. 68, 81 (1985). See also Ennis &
Litwack, Psychiatry and the Presumption of Expertise: Flipping coins in the courtroom, 62 Cal.
L. rev. 693, 697-708, 729-32 (1974).
There are no exact science whatsoever- period!
Not true. Physics is rather exact. Original SCN was exact.
I rest my case!
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
There can be no doubt that commitment to a mental institution results in a "massive
curtailment of liberty", Humphrey v. Cady 405 U.S. 504,
509.
Selfexplanatory statement - thats why commitment must be preceded by careful examination and the
ethical "cost" of forced care must be clearly balanced and formulated in the gains of the
upcoming care ,before commitment.
Psychs are unethical, as you read below. They lie to get people committed.
Rests!
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It turns out that psychiatrists, with the full understanding and tacit permission of the trial
judges, regularly lie in court to obtain involuntary commitment and forced medication orders.
Michael L. Perlin, Journal of Law and Health 1993/1994, 8 JLHealth 15, 33-34 in "Can Sanist
Attitudes Be Undone?" The psychiatric profession explicitly acknowledged psychiatrists
regularly lie to the courts in order to obtain forced treatment orders.
This may not be alltogether untrue.
It is correct because I have also seen it happen.
It is a well known fact that you
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can´t write a perfect law - that lawmakers are laypeople in all other areas than the judicial,
that "interpretations" of the law sometimes are made to "bend" the law in a preferred direction
, hopefully for the better.
It is not about an accidential mistake. They lie to get patients!
Most doctors are bound by their professional ethics
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(Hippocrate)and acts for the better of their patients even if it could mean braking one law to
uphold another. As long as the patients benefits in the end , it could be the ethically correct
action to take.
Dream one. I met so many unethical doctors (not only psychs) and they acted as they never heard
from the Hippocrate Oath. So many patients have to die or suffer under their negligence or
arbitrary actions.
Hippocrate reminds me a lot to Hypocrite!
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Barbara Schwarz (the real one)
A forseen statement. I was just waiting on that one. How predictable!
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Why I would pass any psychological examination?
You might pass for a while, but eventually, the topic would get around to President Eisenhower, and
how he was assassinated while in office, and how you came to acquire knowledge of this. Then it
would be all over.
By the way, just =how= did you find out about Eisenhower's assassination?
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[email hidden] (Stefano MacGregor) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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Why I would pass any psychological examination?
You might pass for a while, but eventually, the topic would get around to President Eisenhower,
and how he was assassinated while in office, and how you came to acquire knowledge of this. Then
it would be all over.
By the way, just =how= did you find out about Eisenhower's assassination?
The skank made it up like all her other wild, phony claims.

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12 January 2004, 06:10 UTC #16

[email hidden] (Stefano MacGregor) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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[email hidden] (Truth Speaker) wrote in message
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Why I would pass any psychological examination?
You might pass for a while, but eventually, the topic would get around to President Eisenhower,
and how he was assassinated while in office, and how you came to acquire knowledge of this. Then
it would be all over.
By the way, just =how= did you find out about Eisenhower's assassination?
So what you are saying? People that have another opinion or other memories are automatically crazy?
It is not so easy, Stefano.
How I found out? I am very smart, and the German still active Nazi psych mincontroller secret
service (SEGNPMSS) can fool people like the ARS posters but not me.
I am certain that the SEGNPMSS wants me to be declared insane. That is why they whisper in ARS
posters ear drums to spread and post the lies that I am insane, so that their crimes are further
covered up.
I am not the only one who knows that. There must be CIA agents around that know also what I
figured out.
Barbara Schwarz (the real one)
P.S. Postings with e-mail address [email hidden] and identity Barbara_Schwarz and
Truth Speaker 2 are not done by me. Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic
Garry Lynn Scarff and fanatical Dave Touretzky defender. And Frederic Rice, another fierce
David Touretzky defender is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and greasy punch bag is
an impressive man.
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[email hidden] ([censored]-guy-Dave-Touretzky-has-bomb-instructions-on-his-website!) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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How I found out? I am very smart, and the German still active Nazi psych mincontroller secret
service (SEGNPMSS) can fool people like the ARS posters but not me.
Yes: my question was, how did you find out that President Eisenhower was assassinated? You have not
answered the question by telling me that your imaginary Nazis don't want me to know anything about
this event. So, you say, they can't fool you. But someone or something is preventing you from
telling us how you found out about this event, and thus proving to us that it is true.
Could it be your ear implants, put there, not by your imaginary Nazis, but by the all-too-real
Marcab Confederation, and it is =they= who prevent you from revealing your source of this
information? Hmmmm?
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[email hidden] (Stefano MacGregor) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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[email hidden] ([censored]-guy-Dave-Touretzky-has-bomb-instructions-on-his-website!) wrote
in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
How I found out? I am very smart, and the German still active Nazi psych mincontroller secret
service (SEGNPMSS) can fool people like the ARS posters but not me.
Yes: my question was, how did you find out that President Eisenhower was assassinated? You have
not answered the question by telling me that your imaginary Nazis don't want me to know anything
about this event. So, you say, they can't fool you. But someone or something is preventing you
from telling us how you found out about this event, and thus proving to us that it is true.
Why should I waste my time explaining it to you, Stefano, after all the abuse that you had for me in
earlier postings?
You apparently missed all your history lessons if you think that Nazis are imaginary.
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Could it be your ear implants, put there, not by your imaginary Nazis, but by the all-too-real
Marcab Confederation, and it is =they= who prevent you from revealing your source of this
information? Hmmmm?
I don't respond to that kind of confused text.
Barbara Schwarz (the real one)
P.S. Postings with e-mail address [email hidden] and identity Barbara_Schwarz and
Truth Speaker 2 are not done by me. Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic
Garry Lynn Scarff and fanatical Dave Touretzky defender. And Frederic Rice, another fierce
David Touretzky defender is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and greasy punch bag is
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[email hidden] (The real Barbara Schwarz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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Why should I waste my time explaining it to you, Stefano, after all the abuse that you had for me
in earlier postings?
For the same reason you waste your time posting here in the first place: to get people to believe
what you say. So far, no one believes anything you have said.
But actually, you =cannot= explain where you got this information, because if you search your
memory, you will notice that you did not hear it from anyone, or read it anywhere. You just know it
without having learned it. This is one of the symptoms of schizophrenia.
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You apparently missed all your history lessons if you think that Nazis are imaginary.
No, the Nazis are in the past, except for a few noisy, impotent groups of misfits, who call
themselves "Nazis". Your full-blown Nazi party still governing Germany and the US is totally
imaginary. Again, you did not learn of your Nazis and their ear-implants from anyone; you simply
know all this information without having learned it. This is one of the symptoms of schizophrenia.
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14 January 2004, 06:24 UTC #20

[email hidden] (Stefano MacGregor) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
[email hidden] (The real Barbara Schwarz) wrote in message
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Why should I waste my time explaining it to you, Stefano, after all the abuse that you had for
me in earlier postings?
For the same reason you waste your time posting here in the first place: to get people to believe
what you say. So far, no one believes anything you have said.
You are wrong in first and second sentence. I post mainly because I don't know how much time I have.
If the SEGNPMSS blows my light out, so to speak, I at least posted what I know about them. I don't
try to convince fools, Stefano. It's true that there are many fools on earth, but not all people are
stupid. Only stupid people believe that all are as stupid as they are.
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But actually, you =cannot= explain where you got this information, because if you search your
memory, you will notice that you did not hear it from anyone, or read it anywhere.
Who are you to make such an allegation? You never met me, you never spoke to me. You never had
access to my mind nor memory. You know nothing.
You just know it without
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having learned it. This is one of the symptoms of schizophrenia.
Would you please post your credentials in the field of mental health, Stefano?
Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:
You apparently missed all your history lessons if you think that Nazis are imaginary.
No, the Nazis are in the past, except for a few noisy, impotent groups of misfits, who call
themselves "Nazis".
I lived in Germany. Did you? I know a lot more that they are not gone than you.
Your full-blown Nazi party
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still governing Germany and the US is totally imaginary.
That is what all the remote controlled German Nazi agents are saying.
Again, you
Quoted message said:
did not learn of your Nazis and their ear-implants from anyone;
Why do I have to learn from anybody? Why can't I make my own discoveries? you
Quoted message said:
simply know all this information without having learned it. This is one of the symptoms of
schizophrenia.
You are wasting my time, Stefano. You are a man without IQ and character.
P.S. Postings with e-mail address [email hidden] and identity Barbara_Schwarz and
Truth Speaker 2 are not done by me. Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic
Garry Lynn Scarff and fanatical Dave Touretzky defender. And Frederic Rice, another fierce
David Touretzky defender is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and greasy punch bag is
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