Why is the Mavic website so crappy?

Marty Wallace said:

How many customers is Mavic losing because of it's poor website?
It's difficult to find info and doesn't seem to work most of the time. C'mon
Mavic, lift your game!

It is moderately crappy (I've seen far worse). My pet peeve is that
all these manufacturers sites don't have decent info on the products
they sell. Would if f'ing kill them to have the ERD of a rim on their
site?

--
Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g
"Americans are broad-minded people. They'll accept the fact that a
person can be an alcoholic, a dope fiend, a wife beater, and even a
newspaperman, but if a man doesn't drive there's something wrong with him."
Art Buchwald

"Dane Jackson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Marty Wallace said:

How many customers is Mavic losing because of it's poor website?
It's difficult to find info and doesn't seem to work most of the time.

C'mon

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Mavic, lift your game!

It is moderately crappy (I've seen far worse). My pet peeve is that
all these manufacturers sites don't have decent info on the products
they sell. Would if f'ing kill them to have the ERD of a rim on their
site?

I wanted to know the width of a rim but no they don't have that either, so
I've ordered a Velocity rim instead.

Marty

Quoted message said:

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Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g
"Americans are broad-minded people. They'll accept the fact that a
person can be an alcoholic, a dope fiend, a wife beater, and even a
newspaperman, but if a man doesn't drive there's something wrong with

him."

Quoted message said:

Art Buchwald

Dane Jackson said:

Marty Wallace <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

How many customers is Mavic losing because of it's poor website?
It's difficult to find info and doesn't seem to work most of the
time. C'mon Mavic, lift your game!

It is moderately crappy (I've seen far worse). My pet peeve is that
all these manufacturers sites don't have decent info on the products
they sell. Would if f'ing kill them to have the ERD of a rim on their
site?

Dude, what's "mm" stand for? Oh, an' check this Flash thing I did out, it's
[censored]' cool!

Matt O.

Matt O'Toole said:

Dane Jackson said:

It is moderately crappy (I've seen far worse). My pet peeve is that
all these manufacturers sites don't have decent info on the products
they sell. Would if f'ing kill them to have the ERD of a rim on their
site?

Dude, what's "mm" stand for? Oh, an' check this Flash thing I did out, it's
[censored]' cool!

What? You mean everyone doesn't have Flash 7.01 installed? Pffft! We
shouldn't even let lowlifes like that past the index page!

Badger, Badger, Badger, Badger. Mushroom! Mushroom!

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Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g
The only "intuitive" interface is the nipple. After that, it's all learned.
(Bruce Ediger, [email hidden], in comp.os.linux.misc, on X interfaces.)

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:03:22 -0700, Dane Jackson <[email hidden]>

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Badger, Badger, Badger, Badger. Mushroom! Mushroom!

Badgers? Badgers?! We don't need no stinking badgers!!
--
Rick Onanian

"Marty Wallace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

How many customers is Mavic losing because of it's poor website?
It's difficult to find info and doesn't seem to work most of the time.

C'mon

Quoted message said:

Mavic, lift your game!

Marty

That's nothin' ... this web site will cause brain damage:

http://www.lookin.it/

For the Selle Royal "Look In" saddles. Mavic is nothing compared to those
clowns. Jesh, alls I wanted to know was what color the inside ... the "Look
In" color ... was for the blue and white saddles. A picture, that's all I
asked for. Give me some info, not some art students pathetic attempt at
creativity. Hey, you kid who made the Look In site ... STAY AWAY FROM THE
BROWN ACID!!!

C.Q.C.

"Dane Jackson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Marty Wallace said:

How many customers is Mavic losing because of it's poor website?
It's difficult to find info and doesn't seem to work most of the time.

C'mon

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Mavic, lift your game!

It is moderately crappy (I've seen far worse). My pet peeve is that
all these manufacturers sites don't have decent info on the products
they sell. Would if f'ing kill them to have the ERD of a rim on their
site?

--
Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g

If you have the flash plug-in installed, is it possible to turn off the
on-demand function? In other words, can you decide manually with a site
gets to use flash or not?

Bestest Handsander said:

"Dane Jackson" <[email hidden]> wrote :

Quoted message said:

It is moderately crappy (I've seen far worse). My pet peeve is that
all these manufacturers sites don't have decent info on the products
they sell. Would if f'ing kill them to have the ERD of a rim on their
site?

If you have the flash plug-in installed, is it possible to turn off the
on-demand function? In other words, can you decide manually with a site
gets to use flash or not?

Yes, Flashblock adds a binding to Shockwave Flash object tags that
replaces them with a button you must click in order to play the
animation. Very handy for keeping your browsing from being overrun
with all the shiny/flashy stuff.

http://texturizer.net/firefox/extensions/#flashblock

You of course need to be using Firefox or Mozilla to use this.

But then, noone should be using IE unless they *enjoy* the [censored] popups
and every ActiveX control in existence trying to install spyware.

--
Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g
"Science is like sex: sometimes something useful comes out, but
that's not why we're doing it." -- Richard Feynman

Bestest Handsander said:

If you have the flash plug-in installed, is it possible to turn off the
on-demand function? In other words, can you decide manually with a site
gets to use flash or not?

In Opera, you just hit the 'F12' key, and it pops up a menu allowing
you to enable/disable things like pop-up windows, images, gif
animation, plug-ins, cookies, and also allows you to change how the
browser identifies it's self (good for sites that say you must use
internet explorer).
--
Rick Onanian

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 06:28:15 -0700, Dane Jackson <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Marty Wallace said:

How many customers is Mavic losing because of it's poor website?
It's difficult to find info and doesn't seem to work most of the time. C'mon
Mavic, lift your game!

It is moderately crappy (I've seen far worse). My pet peeve is that
all these manufacturers sites don't have decent info on the products
they sell. Would if f'ing kill them to have the ERD of a rim on their
site?

Perhaps a few emails to the "technical contact" listed for their
domain registration might help. A NetworkSolutions "whois" finds
mavic.com is registered to Salomon SA. The contact is:
[email hidden]

jeverett3<AT>earthlink<DOT>net http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3

John Everett said:

Perhaps a few emails to the "technical contact" listed for their
domain registration might help. A NetworkSolutions "whois" finds
mavic.com is registered to Salomon SA. The contact is:
[email hidden]

My current attitude about that is to let 'em suffer. If they're too stupid to
figure this stuff out for themselves, they don't deserve our business.

Matt O.

John Everett said:

Perhaps a few emails to the "technical contact" listed for their
domain registration might help. A NetworkSolutions "whois" finds
mavic.com is registered to Salomon SA. The contact is:
[email hidden]

technical contact would be the wrong place .. you'd probably just get whoever
is hosting their DNS which may (or more likely not) also be whoever is
hosting their web content which may (and most likely not) be whoever is in
charge of the actual content.

your best bet is probably [email hidden].
--
david reuteler
[email hidden]

John Everett said:

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 06:28:15 -0700, Dane Jackson <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Marty Wallace said:

How many customers is Mavic losing because of it's poor website?
It's difficult to find info and doesn't seem to work most of the time. C'mon
Mavic, lift your game!

It is moderately crappy (I've seen far worse). My pet peeve is that
all these manufacturers sites don't have decent info on the products
they sell. Would if f'ing kill them to have the ERD of a rim on their
site?

Perhaps a few emails to the "technical contact" listed for their
domain registration might help. A NetworkSolutions "whois" finds
mavic.com is registered to Salomon SA. The contact is:
[email hidden]

Oh sweet Jesus. I went to the Salomon site when I got some new (to me)
skis and gave up before I found anything useful. I think I even emailed
them -- I try to do that whenever a site that I really wanted to get
information from lets me down. Try to find the address of the marketing
department, not the webmaster :-)

--
Cheers,
Bev
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"If the Eskimos have a thousand different words for "snow," does this
mean the French have a thousand different words for "surrender?"

David Reuteler said:

John Everett said:

Perhaps a few emails to the "technical contact" listed for their
domain registration might help. A NetworkSolutions "whois" finds
mavic.com is registered to Salomon SA. The contact is:
[email hidden]

technical contact would be the wrong place .. you'd probably just get whoever
is hosting their DNS which may (or more likely not) also be whoever is
hosting their web content which may (and most likely not) be whoever is in
charge of the actual content.

your best bet is probably [email hidden].

Why should the webmaster do anything but [censored] your letter? Complain
to the marketing department, they take this stuff seriously.

--
Cheers,
Bev
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"If the Eskimos have a thousand different words for "snow," does this
mean the French have a thousand different words for "surrender?"

The Real Bev said:

Why should the webmaster do anything but [censored] your letter? Complain
to the marketing department, they take this stuff seriously.

problem with that is that the email for the marketing department isn't always
easy to find and changes across companies.
--
david reuteler
[email hidden]

The Real Bev said:

David Reuteler said:

John Everett said:

Perhaps a few emails to the "technical contact" listed for their
domain registration might help. A NetworkSolutions "whois" finds
mavic.com is registered to Salomon SA. The contact is:
[email hidden]

technical contact would be the wrong place .. you'd probably just get whoever
is hosting their DNS which may (or more likely not) also be whoever is
hosting their web content which may (and most likely not) be whoever is in
charge of the actual content.

your best bet is probably [email hidden].

Why should the webmaster do anything but [censored] your letter? Complain
to the marketing department, they take this stuff seriously.

There's always snailmail:

Mavic France
Mavic S.A.
Metz-Tessy
74996 ANNECY Cédex 9

Mavic USA
Mavic Inc.
17 Parkridge Road
Haverhill, MA 01835

jeverett3<AT>earthlink<DOT>net http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3

On 29 Apr 2004 05:09:21 GMT, David Reuteler <[email hidden]> wrote
in message <[email hidden]>:

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problem with that is that the email for the marketing department isn't always
easy to find and changes across companies.

info@ usually comes up with some sort of response, though.

--
Guy
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http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University

Marty Wallace said:

How many customers is Mavic losing because of it's poor website? It's
difficult to find info and doesn't seem to work most of the time. C'mon
Mavic, lift your game!

Marty

I don't like to be simplistic but I must note that Mavic is a French
company, and many French companies have not yet realized that they
can (and are expected to !) do more on the internet than just post a few
ads.

The detail that is baffling me on this site is the "dealers only"
technical pages.

Jacques

The Real Bev <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

David Reuteler said:

John Everett said:

Perhaps a few emails to the "technical contact" listed for their
domain registration might help. A NetworkSolutions "whois" finds
mavic.com is registered to Salomon SA. The contact is:
[email hidden]

technical contact would be the wrong place .. you'd probably just get whoever
is hosting their DNS which may (or more likely not) also be whoever is
hosting their web content which may (and most likely not) be whoever is in
charge of the actual content.

your best bet is probably [email hidden].

Why should the webmaster do anything but [censored] your letter? Complain
to the marketing department, they take this stuff seriously.

I second this notion. As a webmaster, I am always trying to fend off
the marketing department at my company. They constantly want me to do
Flash, pop-ups, registration forms with cookies, and everything else
annoying known to web-surfing humanity. And, to make it worse, our
audience is primarily technical, so the web garbage becomes even less
palatable. Send your complaint to the marketing department (try
[email hidden] to start). It will hopefully spare their webmaster
from having to make the web site even more full of useless, flashy
[censored].

I also agree that the Mavic site is good for little more than
marketing hype. There is little useful technical information there.
But, if you like flashy stuff, I guess it's all right.

-Sarah