Why the change?

"Alan Braggins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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wafflycat said:

"Mike Causer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Once you've ridden a properly suspended bike, not a £49.99 special, you
understand how good it can be. Of course you can't stomp the pedals,
and
are forced to sit and spin, just as on a 'bent.

So where does one get these £49.99 special Trices then?

What makes you think a Trice is not properly suspended?

Did I say it wasn't?

Cheers, helen s

John B said:

Tony Raven said:

John B said:

> Replacing the Brommie rubber block with a Birdy yellow elastomer
> stiffens it up substantially. Apart from a little bit of Stanley
> knife work on the two ends of the central hole, they are a direct
> swap.
Many thanks for the tip. Do you know where I can get one?

A Birdy dealer?

Doh ;-)
There isn't one for a million miles.
I suppose it will have to be mail order to somwhere then, but the
hoseclip idea might be worth trying first.

You could always try Kinetics
http://www.kinetics.org.uk/html/spare_parts1.shtml

--
Tony

"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
right."
- Lord Hailsham

Peter Clinch said:

wafflycat said:

My 'bent is an IceT, the entry-level 'bent from Trice. Got it Christmas
2004. It's not the speediest machine, but it's very comfortable, and
lovely to use. I see that Trice have completely revamped the entry-level
machines, to put rear suspension on all of them. I can't fathom out why
rear suspension is warranted.

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Lots of perfectly satisfactory things have been "improved" just to
look fancier, but some really do get better. There was nothing
/wrong/ with friction shifters on the downtube, but how many people
really can't see any point in indexed shifters built into the
hoods? Don't knock it until you've tried it, in other words: I
think the ICE boys know their stuff when it comes to engineering
and aren't in the business of pointless gimmickry.

Isn't one of the side effects of the new rear end that it can now fold
under in a Brompton/Birdy stylee?
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

Tony Raven said:

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Quoted message said:

>> Replacing the Brommie rubber block with a Birdy yellow elastomer
>> stiffens it up substantially. Apart from a little bit of Stanley

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Doh ;-)
There isn't one for a million miles.
I suppose it will have to be mail order to somwhere then, but the
hoseclip idea might be worth trying first.

You could always try Kinetics
http://www.kinetics.org.uk/html/spare_parts1.shtml

Very many thanks - appreciated Tony.
I'll send off tomorrow.
The site has reminded me to get some new tyres too - presently Bromptons
own which slip too much and hate drain covers
Will probably go for Marathons - unless of course anyone has other
suggestions.

John B

Phil Cook said:

Isn't one of the side effects of the new rear end that it can now fold
under in a Brompton/Birdy stylee?

That'll stop it falling over when you park it then.. Oh, hang on...

IGMC

...d

Mike Causer said:

Once you've ridden a properly suspended bike, not a ?49.99 special, you
understand how good it can be. Of course you can't stomp the pedals, and
are forced to sit and spin, just as on a 'bent.

I've tried various types of suspended bike, including a moulton and didn't
like any of them for road use. I want something that's stiff, something that
goes when you stamp on the pedals. Something I can welly up hills in a
big gear.

Instead of getting suspension I might as well grow a beard and ride a
Galaxy everywhere at 13 mph 🙂

Offroad is rather different - full sus is the way to go there for everything
except groomed race courses (and even then, a little bit can be a good thing)

Arthur

--
Arthur Clune

Arthur Clune said:

I've tried various types of suspended bike, including a moulton
and didn't like any of them for road use. I want something
that's stiff, something that goes when you stamp on the pedals.
Something I can welly up hills in a big gear.

If that's what you like that's what you should have. But having
been of similar mind a few years ago, I really learned to spin up
hills when the first 'bent gave me no option, and now I prefer to
take uprights up hills from the saddle at high cadence as well.

And it's quite noticeable how much better a suspended bike is at
going down the other side, especially on bumpy country roads. Even
on the flat I've easily overtaken a carbon framed Look ridden by a
younger, fitter and usually faster friend when the road surface had
enough features that my suspension let my bike and me go forwards
rather than up and down a lot. And that was without a load of
touring luggage added.

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Instead of getting suspension I might as well grow a beard and
ride a Galaxy everywhere at 13 mph 🙂

You'll need luggage too, of course, and 4 unsuspended panniers
compared to a fully suspended load on yellow or white roads can
make quite a chunk of difference. I note the 'T' in the name of
Helen's trike stands for "Touring"...

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

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"Alan Braggins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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wafflycat said:

"Mike Causer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
> Once you've ridden a properly suspended bike, not a £49.99 special, you
> understand how good it can be. Of course you can't stomp the pedals,
> and
> are forced to sit and spin, just as on a 'bent.

So where does one get these £49.99 special Trices then?

What makes you think a Trice is not properly suspended?

Did I say it wasn't?

If you knew it was properly suspended, then "where does one get these
\xa349.99 special Trices" would have been a stupid question, since no-one
suggested you could get properly suspended bikes for \xa349.99.

In article <[email hidden]>,

wafflycat (w*a*ff£y£cat*@£btco*nn£ect.com) said:

My 'bent is an IceT, the entry-level 'bent from Trice. Got it Christmas
2004. It's not the speediest machine, but it's very comfortable, and lovely
to use. I see that Trice have completely revamped the entry-level machines,
to put rear suspension on all of them. I can't fathom out why rear
suspension is warranted. Even on the uneven surfaces of Norfolk country
lanes, there's never been a time when I've been out on the 'bent thinking,
"I think this thing needs suspension"

After finishing the Tour of the Hills with a pounding headache last
year, I found myself wishing that I had opted for the suspended rear end
on my Trice, but that's been the only time. Alternatively, I could have
ridden the Speedmachine instead, which I think I would were I to do said
ride again. Sadly it clashes with a race this year...

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
Although the hippopotamus hath no sting in its tail, the wise man would
rather be seated upon the back of a bee.

Dave Larrington said:

After finishing the Tour of the Hills with a pounding headache last
year, I found myself wishing that I had opted for the suspended rear end
on my Trice, but that's been the only time. Alternatively, I could have
ridden the Speedmachine instead, which I think I would were I to do said
ride again. Sadly it clashes with a race this year...

(checks AUK calendar hoping it clashes with the M family holiday to
parts Greek) Bah; it doesn't. I sense bad karma, especially around the
White Down area.