Winter Running

"Dred" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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I love it. can't get enough of it. there are only 2 major
problems..

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besides that, i think i'd rather run in 20 degrees than in
the summer, no question. any thoughts? any tips?

UnderArmour - Worth every cent when it come to staying
comfortable in the cold.

8 small sheet metal screws - 2 in each heal, 2 in each toe just
in front of the mid-foot strike area - no more slipping. (Just
use old shoes and small screws)

Christine

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"Dred" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

I love it. can't get enough of it. there are only 2 major
problems..

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Quoted message said:

besides that, i think i'd rather run in 20 degrees than in
the summer, no question. any thoughts? any tips?

UnderArmour - Worth every cent when it come to staying
comfortable in the cold.

8 small sheet metal screws - 2 in each heal, 2 in each toe just
in front of the mid-foot strike area - no more slipping. (Just
use old shoes and small screws)

More specifically see: http://www.skyrunner.com/screwshoe.htm

-DF

Dred said:

2. keeping the face warm while still being able to breathe. i just
bought a new balaclava that covers the entire face except 2 eyeholes,
and it has a mesh opening around the mouth. beats sucking in the
material (like my old one) through the mouth where there's no opening.

Exactly which one did you get? I'm looking for the same thing but I'm
not sure exactly which one to get.

--
Is this thing on?

Dred said:

I love it. can't get enough of it. there are only 2 major problems..

1. the surface is slick- solution is to get up real early and run in
the streets (which are always salted nicely here in my suburban
cleveland town).

Snowshoes on trails!! We've had the most beautiful snow since about Wed.

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2. keeping the face warm while still being able to breathe. i just
bought a new balaclava that covers the entire face except 2 eyeholes,
and it has a mesh opening around the mouth. beats sucking in the
material (like my old one) through the mouth where there's no opening.

FWIW, I tried a neoprene lower face mask today (have had it, but never
tried it before) - supposed to be used with goggles, I think. Has a nose
piece and 7 small holes in circle for mouth. Worked surprisingly well at
-6F (maybe cooler on trails). Didn't freeze up like my balaclava. I was
using an ear band, but no hat. This way I can keep bare skin covered and
still ventilate. I didn't need it for moisturizing air, but did need it
for skin protection. I didn't start out with face mask but after about
an hour (about 1/2 way), my cheeks were starting to feel nippy, and face
was getting stiff, so decided it was time for something besides vaseline.

The holes look big enough for a straw, but not for camelbak mouthpiece
or water bottle, but was able to pull it down to drink with little problem.

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besides that, i think i'd rather run in 20 degrees than in the summer,
no question. any thoughts? any tips?

Just remember to layer and stay fueled and hydrated.

Dot

--
"A winner is just a loser who tried one more time." -Captain George M.
Moore, Jr., United States Air Force (retired),
http://www.avdlm.com/press.php?page=stories&storyid=1

Here it is:
click here for a link to $10 off your order, which covers your shipping
and a few bucks more. Hope it works for you.

http://www.letsrun.com/roadrunnercoupon.php

Then search for balaclava, and you'll find the windstopper. Good luck.

yesterday
3 hikers
3 bikers
5 runners
snow tracks saw in ride.
sunday ride.in 3 inch snow.

Maxwell house coffee is the best!

I'm looking forward to Dec 7, the earliest sunset day of the year for
the northern
hemisphere. Difficult to fit in runs before dark.

Dot said:

FWIW, I tried a neoprene lower face mask today (have had it, but never
tried it before) - supposed to be used with goggles, I think. Has a nose
piece and 7 small holes in circle for mouth. Worked surprisingly well at
-6F (maybe cooler on trails). Didn't freeze up like my balaclava. I was
using an ear band, but no hat. This way I can keep bare skin covered and
still ventilate. I didn't need it for moisturizing air, but did need it
for skin protection. I didn't start out with face mask but after about
an hour (about 1/2 way), my cheeks were starting to feel nippy, and face
was getting stiff, so decided it was time for something besides vaseline.

Last week I was in Chicago during a cold snap. It got to 15°F with 21
MPH winds and gusting higher (-7°F RealFeel). I attempted to start out
running into the wind. I had to turn around after 1/2 mile because the
pain on my face was unbearable. I should have run south (with the wind)
and just call someone to pick me up. At any rate, I had just vaseline
on my face with a drylete hat. The next day it was in the 20s with no
wind. That was wonderful. 3 layers on top, drylete hat, 2 layers of
mittens, and tights.

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besides that, i think i'd rather run in 20 degrees than in the summer,
no question. any thoughts? any tips?

Yes. 20° is nice as long as you're not heading into a gale. ;-)

--
Phil M. (now back in balmy Atlanta)

Dred said:

Here it is:
click here for a link to $10 off your order, which covers your shipping
and a few bucks more. Hope it works for you.

http://www.letsrun.com/roadrunnercoupon.php

Then search for balaclava, and you'll find the windstopper. Good luck.

It DL'ed a virus to my PC.

you lie, troll.

Dred said:

you lie, troll.

You troll, liar.

ski stores have balaclavas

John B. said:

ski stores have balaclavas

What flavor is baclava? I heard of it, but never ate any.

"Ski stores have balaclavas..."
~ JB

"What flavor is baclava?
I heard of it, but never ate any."
~ Studley Boner

"Nuttin Honey."
~ Thusly

"Pilgrim of this elusive holy land,
Ever mutable lover,
He wanted to be

The wind that stirred her hair,
The mutational water that kissed her body,
The gown that fondled her at night,
The book that charmed her during the day,
The glove that warmed her hand,
The mirror that could admire her
In over pose ..."

~ Umberto Eco,

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From "The Island of the Day Before Yesterday"

[p. 167]

"If in water, over your head,
Gaze heavenward ~

The sky's mirror maps your reflected plan,
The water you cup in your hand flows
Into another land,
Into another's hand,
Who maps another map you unfold ...

The book you read that lapidates matter,

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From the water your hand

Cups from
The night that bathes your naked self
Within the waters bathers swim
Where bestir the air,

Where Pilgrim of this elusive holy land,
Ever mutable lover,
Wants to be

Where the wind hints of heaven ~
Sent epistolary

Your answer,
Your manner of swimming,
Your head above water ..."
~ Mum

Phil M. said:

Dot said:

FWIW, I tried a neoprene lower face mask today (have had it, but never
tried it before) - supposed to be used with goggles, I think. Has a nose
piece and 7 small holes in circle for mouth. Worked surprisingly well at
-6F (maybe cooler on trails). Didn't freeze up like my balaclava. I was
using an ear band, but no hat. This way I can keep bare skin covered and
still ventilate. I didn't need it for moisturizing air, but did need it
for skin protection. I didn't start out with face mask but after about
an hour (about 1/2 way), my cheeks were starting to feel nippy, and face
was getting stiff, so decided it was time for something besides vaseline.

Last week I was in Chicago during a cold snap. It got to 15°F with 21
MPH winds and gusting higher (-7°F RealFeel). I attempted to start out
running into the wind. I had to turn around after 1/2 mile because the
pain on my face was unbearable.

I can relate very easily to those conditions. That's when a neoprene
face mask or wind-proof balaclava are nice - or a good hood. Some of the
windproof balaclavas also have the barrier where the mouth is - so you
can't breathe through them. This is not good.

Wind will penetrate most of the knit fabrics that balaclavas are made
from. And vaseline just picks up the flying sand and other debris. On
one of our winter windstorms (with no snow) I was cleaning grit out of
my ears. With some of the strong winds, I'll wear goggles - 50mph wind
blowing grit in your eyes is not good.

Dot

--
"A winner is just a loser who tried one more time." -Captain George M.
Moore, Jr., United States Air Force (retired),
http://www.avdlm.com/press.php?page=stories&storyid=1

Dred said:

I love it. can't get enough of it. there are only 2 major problems..

1. the surface is slick- solution is to get up real early and run in
the streets (which are always salted nicely here in my suburban
cleveland town).

2. keeping the face warm while still being able to breathe. i just
bought a new balaclava that covers the entire face except 2 eyeholes,
and it has a mesh opening around the mouth. beats sucking in the
material (like my old one) through the mouth where there's no opening.

besides that, i think i'd rather run in 20 degrees than in the summer,
no question. any thoughts? any tips?

I also find Under Armor to be good protection. But you don't have to go
out for expensive clothes. The key is layering clothes, so you can make
some adjustments if necessary. I enjoy the cooler temps too. And we
certainly have had some swinging temps in the Cleveland area recently.
After Thanksgiving day snow and lows in the teens, we had a record high
69degrees F Monday and forcasts of the cold moving back in.

While I like cooler temperatures, I thoroughly enjoyed Monday's run.
Being able to run in shorts and shortsleeved T near the end of November
is a rare treat.

One other solution for protecting your face that really only helps
about half the runners: grow a beard!

And I have one cardinal rule of winter running: Just keep moving!
Ed

Dred said:

I love it. can't get enough of it. there are only 2 major problems..

1. the surface is slick- solution is to get up real early and run in
the streets (which are always salted nicely here in my suburban
cleveland town).

This just shows what is a priority in our country nowadays. Sidewalks
are plowed under by snow to make room for cars and trucks. sorry, but
it's just a pet peeve of mine.

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besides that, i think i'd rather run in 20 degrees than in the summer,
no question. any thoughts? any tips?

In my other post I forgot to say I use the screws in the shoes
(pseudospikes) too. They really make a difference. They are funny,
making a tapshoe like noise in the late winter when most of the
ground/pavement is clear of snow and ice. So it is an inexpensive
solution to icy streets.

have fun. maybe I'll see you at a race sometime.
Ed