WNM Joyce (page 3)

How'd it go?

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Actually, this is recording software that has replaced a
tape and it is a windows' application. But I should learn
more today - maybe!
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*ouch* sorry to hear that Fred.
Can you switch to Linux for what you do? (DH would be so
proud of me

saying

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that, *sigh*)
Julie, who is really behind on messages still... "Fred"
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Well, technology almost bit us at work today. Windows
threw up an error box saying a file was not saved and
data was probably lost. I cannot explain the
circumstances other than to say - it could have been a
real problem. The old fashioned way of data storage was
much less prone to MS erroring out on us!!!!!!
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:04:48 -0500, Joyce
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>It's amazing to me also, right up there with the
>concept of pushing a

button when
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>inside my home and having my car start up. No, I don't
>have this but

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still
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>amazes me that it is possible. I often wonder what the
>future will

hold

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in store
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>for my kids ... what will be totally new to them and
>foreign to us.
>
>Those visuals were a bit touristy to me, but I think
>the talking and

explanations
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>bothered me more. It wasn't very peppy, kind of
>mundane. I'm sure it

appeals to
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>a lot of people, but it just doesn't get me excited.
>At least not

enough

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to have
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>to pay $10/month for the option. The treadmill
>workouts that I use

are

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free.
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>I know they say progress is a good thing, I'm just not
>so sure as to

how

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far we
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>really should - or need to - go. Somethings I just
>shake my head at

and

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laugh.
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>Of course, hub does the same over my now computerized
>treadmill.

Guess

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it's one
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>of those *to each their own* things.
>
>Joyce
>
>On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:17:25 -0700, Fred
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>>I guess I still find that pretty amazing. The control
>>of the treadmill over the internet. And it sounds as
>>if it works by making things more interesting and
>>possibly challenging.
>>
>>I might like the visuals but maybe too touristy.
>>
>>We ARE living in the just pre-jetson's era and it
>>gets closer daily. Good? Bad? or just plain
>>INTERESTING?
>>
>>On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 02:05:38 -0500, Joyce
>><[email hidden]> wrote:
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>>>It really is pretty neat, but not flawless. The
>>>signal that is sent

from the
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>>>computer to the treadmill happens very quickly - so
>>>sometimes is

*missed* and the
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>>>treadmill does not adjust to the new speed/incline.
>>>And twice now

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has misread
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>>>the signal and boosted me to mega-speeds (which is
>>>always

interesting).

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But ...
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>>>these workouts are shown on the computer screen with
>>>the speed and

incline in
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>>>large print - so I can manually adjust very easily.
>>>I am finding

they

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are much
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>>>better workouts than I was doing on my own, and the
>>>time seems to

pass

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so much
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>>>more quickly (probably because of the constantly
>>>changing

speed/inclines). I've
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>>>also found that I've quickly become addicted ... I
>>>can't seem to

stay

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away from
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>>>the treadmill now. Not sure if that is a good thing
>>>or not. <g>
>>>
>>>I've looked at a few of their scenic workouts, not
>>>really for *me*.

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thought it
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>>>would be just like trekking through the mountains,
>>>which would be

fun.

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Nope. It
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>>>appears more to be someone that has taken video
>>>shots of the

scenery,

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stairs, sky,
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>>>whatever - and explains what you are viewing.
>>>
>>>My brother and I were talking when we were setting
>>>up the

treadmill -

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he said it
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>>>reminded him of the old jetson's cartoons ... when
>>>he was on a

similar

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thing
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>>>running with the dog. Who would have thought. <g>
>>>
>>>Joyce
>>>
>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:00:25 -0700, Fred
>>><[email hidden]>

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>>>>Sheesh, hooked up a treadmill to an interactive
>>>>internet site.

Remote

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>>>>control of your aerobic workout. Reminds me of "The
>>>>Outer Limits -

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>>>>are in control of the horizontal, we are in control
>>>>of the

vertical,

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>>>>we will run your butt off!"
>>>>
>>>>I see they only use IE. Ah, they have a Half Dome -
>>>>Yosemite

workout.

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>>>>I've been up there. It would be wonderfully scenic.
>>>>
>>>>So, what - you hook up the treadmill to a usb port?
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:55:13 -0500, Joyce
>>>><[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>LOL! Probably no chance on the running - interval
>>>>>chasing maybe,

but

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no official
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>>>>>running. I did the interval thing today and the
>>>>>time did seem to

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by so much
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>>>>>faster. Tomorrow I'm going to try hooking up the
>>>>>treadmill to the

internet
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>>>>>website (www.ifit.com) and do one of their pre-
>>>>>programmed

workouts.

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It
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>>>>>automatically raises and lowers the speed and
>>>>>incline - will be

fun

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to see how it
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>>>>>works. I now can do this since I have semi-
>>>>>wireless internet

capability.
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>>>>>woohoo!!! They also have scenic things you can
>>>>>hike to - will try

the 30 day free
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>>>>>trial to see if I like it well enough to pay
>>>>>$10/month.

Ahhhhhhhh,

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new toys are
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>>>>>fun. <g>
>>>>>
>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:46:23 -0700, Fred

<[email hidden]>

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>>>>>>I've also read about interval training. I know
>>>>>>folks swear by it

for
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>>>>>>bicycling, too. It does get the body in better
>>>>>>fashion to react

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>>>>>>different things supposedly. So keep it up - I
>>>>>>guess it also

made

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>>>>>>your session seem faster. Keep it up. Soon you
>>>>>>will be running outdoors, through that park you
>>>>>>mentioned (G)
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>>>>>>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 03:26:55 -0500, Joyce
>>>>>><[email hidden]> wrote:
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>>>>>>>15 minutes is better than nothing, and is a
>>>>>>>great start. I seem

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do fine those
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>>>>>>>first 15 minutes or so, then I start looking at
>>>>>>>the clock and

time

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tends to drag.
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>>>>>>>I convince myself to just go one more *lap* (1/4
>>>>>>>mile on the

lcd)

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or a few more
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>>>>>>>minutes, then if I want to quit I can ... of
>>>>>>>course, that leads

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more deals with
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>>>>>>>myself. Most of the time I do make the 40-45
>>>>>>>minutes, sometimes

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do quit after
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>>>>>>>35 minutes. Afternoons I usually only make about
>>>>>>>25 minutes, as

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have to get
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>>>>>>>back upstairs and get back to dinner prep. Today
>>>>>>>I did

something

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different and it
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>>>>>>>did seem to make the time go a bit faster. I
>>>>>>>have been reading

many different
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>>>>>>>articles on interval training, I really have no
>>>>>>>clue as to

whether

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this is good or
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>>>>>>>bad - but so far everything I've read has been
>>>>>>>positive. The

most

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recent article
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>>>>>>>I saw said something about how calories burned
>>>>>>>with the same

daily

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routine will
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>>>>>>>eventually be less, as the body becomes used to
>>>>>>>the routine -

interval training
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>>>>>>>will keep the body working and burning. So ... I
>>>>>>>started with

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first 15 minutes
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>>>>>>>at the higher speed, dropped and did 2 minutes
>>>>>>>at a lower speed

...

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3 minutes at
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>>>>>>>high speed again, 1 minute low, 3 min high, 1
>>>>>>>min low, etc.

Unbelievable how
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>>>>>>>quickly the time did go by - maybe because I was
>>>>>>>focusing more

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the shorter
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>>>>>>>lengths of time?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hitting that speed button was interesting, and a
>>>>>>>bit frightening

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the moment.
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>>>>>>>You would think I would have learned the lesson
>>>>>>>after the first

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time. Nope, not
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>>>>>>>me - did the exact same thing again today ...
>>>>>>>with the same

results. <sigh> I am
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>>>>>>>getting rather good at being able to lift myself
>>>>>>>quickly on the

support bars
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>>>>>>>(guess I have also become a tad stronger - lol).
>>>>>>>While I can

walk

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comfortably at
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>>>>>>>an 8% incline level - I can NOT walk at 8MPH!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:39:43 -0700, Fred

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>>>>>>>>Well, that's my main problem with most exercise
>>>>>>>>equipment - the boredom factor indoors. I've
>>>>>>>>been trying to get to the

exercise

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>>>>>>>>equipemtn at work in the mid-morning but only
>>>>>>>>15 minutes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I would like to have seen the speed button
>>>>>>>>mistake (G) I did

that

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the
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>>>>>>>>other day on the elliptical - I ran it
>>>>>>>>backwards too suddenly

and

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too
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>>>>>>>>much resistance. The elliptical with mild
>>>>>>>>resistance is not

bad -

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>>>>>>>>same as treadmill, I guess. I only have a
>>>>>>>>nordic track here at

home -
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>>>>>>>>a dust catcher
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>>>>>>>>On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:52:40 -0500, Joyce
>>>>>>>><[email hidden]>

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>>>>>>>>>Yeah, that's me ... mrs. guru. LOL I only
>>>>>>>>>tried an eliptical

machine once,
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>>>>>>>>>several years ago. I had problems with it,
>>>>>>>>>again the knee

thing - just wasn't for
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>>>>>>>>>me, I knew it wasn't something I could or
>>>>>>>>>would stick to for

long. I don't mind
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>>>>>>>>>the exercycles, hubs new one seems rather nice
>>>>>>>>>but I honestly

haven't used it more
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>>>>>>>>>than a very few short minutes. The key to me
>>>>>>>>>for lowering the

knee stress was to
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>>>>>>>>>find the correct spot for the seat ... which
>>>>>>>>>was not easy.

Too

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far away or too
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>>>>>>>>>close, and the knees screamed at me. I think
>>>>>>>>>that is why I

probably don't get on
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>>>>>>>>>it now, then hub would have to constantly move
>>>>>>>>>that seat back

and

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forth. They
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>>>>>>>>>need to incorporate a motorized seat control,
>>>>>>>>>like they do in

automobiles - would
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>>>>>>>>>be so much easier when having multiple users.
>>>>>>>>>The treadmill

was

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the perfect
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>>>>>>>>>answer ... for me. I love walking, it's
>>>>>>>>>relatively pain free

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I don't do stupid
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>>>>>>>>>stuff (like hitting the increase speed button
>>>>>>>>>instead of the

increase incline -
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>>>>>>>>>THAT result was rather interesting this
>>>>>>>>>morning ... as well as

producing a bit of
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>>>>>>>>>panic). It can be rather boring though, so I
>>>>>>>>>have to find

something to keep me
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>>>>>>>>>somewhat occupied while I'm on it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:15:58 -0700, Fred

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>>>>>>>>>>I prefer walking in quieter places, too.
>>>>>>>>>>Walking to the

U-district
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>>>>>>>>>>(Univ of Washingon is about a mile east)
>>>>>>>>>>requires crossing

I-5

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which
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>>>>>>>>>>is an assault on the senses as well as
>>>>>>>>>>walking along busy

streets.
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>>>>>>>>>>And crossing north-south is restricted to
>>>>>>>>>>keep the east-west

flow of
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>>>>>>>>>>cars unimpeded. But a 3-4 mile loop around
>>>>>>>>>>the lake is

actually

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>>>>>>>>>>traffic light free and pretty low-key except
>>>>>>>>>>at rush hour.
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>>>>>>>>>>So you are now the exercise guru - great
>>>>>>>>>>roll. I'm trying to

decide
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>>>>>>>>>>about the elliptical trainer at work as
>>>>>>>>>>opposed to the

treadmill. As
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>>>>>>>>>>I found a number of years ago with PROGRAMMED
>>>>>>>>>>exercise bikes,

the
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>>>>>>>>>>resistance is not as natural as real biking,
>>>>>>>>>>even up steep

hills.
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>>>>>>>>>>They seem to put more pressure on the knee
>>>>>>>>>>that I get in real

life on
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>>>>>>>>>>some very steep rides. Same seems to be true
>>>>>>>>>>for the

elliptical

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and
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>>>>>>>>>>my knees do not like it. I think the
>>>>>>>>>>treadmill may be more

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my
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>>>>>>>>>>liking, well, to my knees' liking.
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>>>>>>>>>>Ah, weather lady just reported yesterday's
>>>>>>>>>>71F was a new

record

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high
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>>>>>>>>>>for the date. But CLOUDY right now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:47:55 -0500, Joyce
>>>>>>>>>><[email hidden]>

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>>>>>>>>>>>I do like hills and I do enjoy walking ... I
>>>>>>>>>>>don't like

doing

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so amid heavy
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>>>>>>>>>>>traffic and nutsy drivers. Our locale does
>>>>>>>>>>>have sidewalks,

but

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even crossing the
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>>>>>>>>>>>streets you take your life into your own
>>>>>>>>>>>hands. It never

ceases to amaze me just
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>>>>>>>>>>>how unconscious and incondsiderate drivers
>>>>>>>>>>>are around here.

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house sits in a
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>>>>>>>>>>>very quiet neighborhood, and is relatively
>>>>>>>>>>>traffic free -

other

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than those
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>>>>>>>>>>>goofballs that have to drive through in a
>>>>>>>>>>>hurry to avoid

traffic lights. The
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>>>>>>>>>>>problem begins if I travel 1/2 a block to
>>>>>>>>>>>the west, 2 blocks

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the east, or 3
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>>>>>>>>>>>blocks to the north ... all major runways -
>>>>>>>>>>>two of which are

considered state
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>>>>>>>>>>>highways. I just need to remember to cross
>>>>>>>>>>>at the

stoplight,

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which is out of my
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>>>>>>>>>>>way if heading to the store. It at least
>>>>>>>>>>>gives me a

fighting

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chance.
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Temps weren't bad today, no records, not
>>>>>>>>>>>warm but not bitter

cold either. This
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>>>>>>>>>>>afternoon and evening had some serious gusts
>>>>>>>>>>>blowing

through -

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had my downdraft
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>>>>>>>>>>>flap on the stove rattling wildly. That is
>>>>>>>>>>>really a hoot

and

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took me quite some
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>>>>>>>>>>>time to figure out what exactly I was
>>>>>>>>>>>hearing. When I am

upstairs, I know what it
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>>>>>>>>>>>is ... kind of bangs a little and whistles
>>>>>>>>>>> through the oven.

But when in the
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>>>>>>>>>>>basement ... it sounds exactly like someone
>>>>>>>>>>>is knocking

ferociously on the door
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>>>>>>>>>>>(the exterior flap is only a few feet north
>>>>>>>>>>>and at ceiling

level of the wall the
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>>>>>>>>>>>treadmill is on. A few weeks ago I kept
>>>>>>>>>>>running up and down

stairs, thinking
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>>>>>>>>>>>someone was playing games with me. I was
>>>>>>>>>>>rather slow in

solving the mystery. <G>
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>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, can you even believe that my oldest
>>>>>>>>>>>girl was asking me

this morning for
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>>>>>>>>>>>excercise advice? LOL! Who woulda ever
>>>>>>>>>>>thought! She has

bought herself an
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>>>>>>>>>>>eliptical machine, finally got it up and
>>>>>>>>>>>running last week

and

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wanted some advise
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>>>>>>>>>>>on how long she should be using it and how
>>>>>>>>>>>often. She is

being

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incredibly hard on
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>>>>>>>>>>>herself because she is only going 20 minutes
>>>>>>>>>>>on alternating

days. I told her she
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>>>>>>>>>>>really needed to remember that she is also
>>>>>>>>>>>dealing with 2

small

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children and their
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>>>>>>>>>>>schedules, just gave birth 2 months ago (and
>>>>>>>>>>>is already back

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her pre-pregnancy
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>>>>>>>>>>>weight), and starting an exercise routine
>>>>>>>>>>>for the first time

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many years. Start
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>>>>>>>>>>>slow, work up - my advise in a nutshell.
>>>>>>>>>>>We're currently

trying to figure out how
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>>>>>>>>>>>to tunnel under the street and connect the
>>>>>>>>>>>two basements ...

could have one heck
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>>>>>>>>>>>of a gym set up. <G>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:38:57 -0800, Fred

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>>>>>>>>>>>>I am a walker both urban and mountain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Seattle is a pretty

good
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>>>>>>>>>>>>walking town if you like HILLS!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Temps today set a new record altho being in
>>>>>>>>>>>>the mountains I

don't know
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>>>>>>>>>>>>what they reached. But it was mind-
>>>>>>>>>>>>blowingly perfect UP

there.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>I shall post a link in a bit as soon as I
>>>>>>>>>>>>figure out how

(m)

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>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 02:08:09 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>><[email hidden]>

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks dear. I am getting very good at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>hovering, aren't

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<G>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>Walking without a treadmill, is amazing,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>isn't it? Wonder

why I didn't think of
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>it before. <G> Really, I usually don't as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the traffic is

very heavy in this area
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>- and I don't like battling with all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> crazy drivers.

But

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I knew I could use
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>the back entrance and only have to cross
>>>>>>>>>>>>>on street to get

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the park, then it was
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>quiet and peaceful. Hub and I will usually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>walk this

route

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when we go to the
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>bread outlet store - but having to cross
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the major roads

does

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not enthuse me.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>Our temps weren't quite as nice as yours
>>>>>>>>>>>>>... was 45F when

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was out this morning.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>But it felt like a heat wave compared to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>those 30's. I

think

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they are talking
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>similar temps all week long, but I also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>believe they have

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rain in the forecast.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>THAT's nice for a change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:45:25 -0800, Fred

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Congrats on the overall downward hover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>even if it was an

upward hover
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>somewhere along the line (G)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And walking - without a treadmill -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>amazing, truly

amazing

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(G) Spring
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is coming here, too. 60F+ and today and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>closer to 70F

tomorrow (when
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I hope to ski or, at least, hike)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:11:54 -0600, Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><[email hidden]>

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The scale has once again been doing a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dance for me ...

down, down, down all week
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>long ... up today for weigh in. Isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that the way life

always goes? <G> No
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>biggie, todays weight still showed me a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1.3 loss from

last

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week and really did not
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>surprise me at all as I had a very salty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>meal last nite

which had me drinking mega
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>quantities ... and not running to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>potty. <G> I'll

enjoy knowing that during
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the week I DID see lower numbers and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>will not allow

myself

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to get worked up over
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this. I AM MAINTAINING, and quite nicely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I feel. So

the

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official Friday numbers
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>are .......................
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>down 1.3 pounds official weight: 130.7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>total loss to date: 98.1 pounds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And I have recorded an all time first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for me ... which

for

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most probably isn't a
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>big deal, but it made me feel good. Last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>night hub

noticed

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I had driven a huge
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>screw into the rear tire of one of our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vehicles, of

course

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the one that sonny boy
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>college campus and

retrieve the last of his
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>possessions. He made an appointment at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the local repair

place to have it fixed
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>today, called and told me that SIL was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not working ...

call

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and have him pick me
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>up. Wellllll, I drove the car in, set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything up and

thought, geeeeeesh, I'm
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>only a few blocks from home, can walk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>straight through

the

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park, dodging the geese
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>... and it IS somewhat of a nice day out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>... why call?

I'll probably make it home
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>faster if I walk. So picked my little
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>legs up and off I

went. I have no idea how
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fast I walked, hard to judge without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that lcd monitor in

front of me <G>, but I
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was home in less than 7 minutes. And I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>felt terrific.

WooHoo!
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>current weight: 130.7 total loss: 98.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lifetime: 4/4/03

WNM Joyce

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