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It's a hard life being a mother. This morning is the first one Vernon & I have allowed Nathan to
cycle to school unaccompanied.

I *know* you can't wrap them in cotton wool, but we do get HGVs on narrow roads etc., etc. What we
did was let Nathan cycle & later I set off with his school bags a la cage mode, so he wouldn't be
weighed down by three ton of school

I'm sure he has had an excellent cycling teacher thus far in his life! How old is Nathan? Does his
school have decent facilities for cyclists?

Just out of interest, why are you caging his equipment to him, and not cycling yourself?

My fiancee still worries about me cycling, and I *have* to text her to let her know I've arrived
home safely!

I am taking her for her first cycling experience (in about 20 years) soon. Wish me luck!

Love and showers from Rich xx

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It's a hard life being a mother. This morning is the first one Vernon & I

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allowed Nathan to cycle to school unaccompanied.

Well done. Nathan will doubtless be fine and you will have spent the day worrying for nothing.

No too sure about doing the school run just for the books -- but I guess this is a short term fix.

Look at it from Nathan's point of view. He knows he is trusted, he knows he has cycled the route
many times before with you, he has a new measure of freedom and a time slot where he is not
'controlled' by either school or home. If he uses that responsibly it will doubtless grow -- so, by
the time some of his mates are let off the apron strings he will have learned to use the freedom
sensibly while they may be drunk on their new found freedom.

Also, he has his own personal transport -- so his freedom is less constrained than those who always
have to be caged to get from A to B.

Good move. A very minor increase in risk today for a longer term reduction in risk due to increased
personal responsibility.

Now -- enjoy your day of fretting -- and remember, no news is good news. Bad news travels like the
wind. Good news strolls round when its ready for tea.

T

wafflycathcsdirtycatlitter said:

It's a hard life being a mother. This morning is the first one Vernon & I have allowed Nathan to
cycle to school unaccompanied.

I *know* you can't wrap them in cotton wool, but we do get HGVs on narrow roads etc., etc.

From what you've written before, I know that you've done plenty of cycling with Nathan on the roads.
So by now, he would have learnt the correct distance to ride from the edge and how to make right
turns, etc. I reckon there's a greater chance of him injuring himself slipping over in the
playground than getting in trouble on the way there.

It's the parents that have never cycled with their children who should worry!

~PB

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Well done. Nathan will doubtless be fine and you will have spent the day worrying for nothing.

Oh I really, really hope so - but it doesn't stop the maternal instinct from going into overdrive!

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No too sure about doing the school run just for the books -- but I guess this is a short term fix.

Oh it is - We are waiting until Thursday to purchase *hopefully* one of the locakble rack packs from
Lidl which should be big enough to take his books at least, plus provide daytime storage for helmet
etc. I'm serious in whinging about the amount of stuff he has to carry everyday - it is
*ridiculous*. Back pack with books - stuffed full & heavy - games holdall full of gym/games stuff, &
A2 portfolio for graphics ... it's not fun! It's way more than he's had to carry before, now he's on
GCSEs. We'll be working out the most effective transportation over the cvoming days via trial &
error I think.

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Look at it from Nathan's point of view. He knows he is trusted, he knows he has cycled the route
many times before with you, he has a new measure of freedom and a time slot where he is not
'controlled' by either school or home. If he uses that responsibly it will doubtless grow -- so, by
the time some of his mates are let off the apron strings he will have learned to use the freedom
sensibly while they may be drunk on their new found freedom.

That's the theory 🙂

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Also, he has his own personal transport -- so his freedom is less constrained than those who always
have to be caged to get from A to B.

Good move. A very minor increase in risk today for a longer term reduction in risk due to increased
personal responsibility.

True, but still that old maternal instinct ..

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Now -- enjoy your day of fretting -- and remember, no news is good news. Bad news travels like the
wind. Good news strolls round when its ready for tea.

True - hmm... do I have any fingernails left?

Cheers, helen s

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I'm sure he has had an excellent cycling teacher thus far in his life! How old is Nathan? Does his
school have decent facilities for cyclists?

Well, a sort of partially covered bike shed with lots of bike racks. Nowhere to store bike helmet -
his teacher last year insisted on advance notice of his cycling to be able to give permission to
store his helmet in a locked cupboard during the day. Go figure.

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Just out of interest, why are you caging his equipment to him, and not cycling yourself?

I may be large, but I am not a commando - Back pack full of books + large graphics folio do not easy
transport make. Besides which the idea is to allow Nathan to cycle alone, without his mother huffing
& puffing along acting as a cycling pack mule 🙂 We'll sort out the most effective way to transport
heavies by bike over the coming days.

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My fiancee still worries about me cycling, and I *have* to text her to let her know I've arrived
home safely!

I am taking her for her first cycling experience (in about 20 years) soon. Wish me luck!

Good luck & be gentle on her - encourage, don't nag if she's slower than you & finds it hard going.

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Love and showers from Rich xx

Cheers, helen s

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From what you've written before, I know that you've done plenty of cycling with Nathan on the
roads. So by now, he would have learnt the correct distance to ride from the edge and how to make
right turns, etc. I reckon there's a greater chance of him injuring himself slipping over in the
playground than getting in trouble on the way there.

You are correct, but it doesn't stop the innate mother instinct from going into overdrive ;-)

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It's the parents that have never cycled with their children who should worry!

Indeed.

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~PB

Cheers, helen s

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Well, a sort of partially covered bike shed with lots of bike racks.

Nowhere to

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store bike helmet - his teacher last year insisted on advance notice of

his

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cycling to be able to give permission to store his helmet in a locked

cupboard

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during the day. Go figure.

Soiunds like a positive attitude to cycling. Obviously its OK for the kids to die early of obesity
but taking excercise is to be surrounded by H&S Nazis and their rules 🙁

T

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Oh I really, really hope so - but it doesn't stop the maternal instinct

from

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going into overdrive!

No cure for that -- sorry.

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That's the theory 🙂

We all survived!!

T

Tony W said:

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Well, a sort of partially covered bike shed with lots of bike racks.

Nowhere to

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store bike helmet - his teacher last year insisted on advance notice of

his

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cycling to be able to give permission to store his helmet in a locked

cupboard

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during the day. Go figure.

Soiunds like a positive attitude to cycling. Obviously its OK for the kids to die early of obesity
but taking excercise is to be surrounded by H&S Nazis and their rules 🙁

T

One local school had to admit that their ban on cycling to school could not be policed. Instead they
said that they would insist that anyone who cycled (ie brought a cycle into school) had to have a
helmet and that they would not allow helmets on the premises as they had no secure storage.

These attitudes makes you want to cry.

John B

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From what you've written before, I know that you've done plenty of cycling with Nathan on the
roads. So by now, he would have learnt the correct distance to ride from the edge and how to make
right turns, etc.

Correct. He's been well taught and understands how to ride on the road. He should be OK.

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You are correct, but it doesn't stop the innate mother instinct from going into overdrive ;-)

Also correct. There is nothing you can do about this. The alternative is never to let him out of
your sight. At some stage you have to let go a bit. You've prepared him as well as you can. You can
do no more.

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One local school had to admit that their ban on cycling to school could

not be

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policed. Instead they said that they would insist that anyone who cycled (ie

brought a

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cycle into school) had to have a helmet and that they would not allow

helmets

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on the premises as they had no secure storage.

These attitudes makes you want to cry.

Such attitudes should be exposed for the cant that they are.

T

wafflycathcsdirtycatlitter said:

It's a hard life being a mother. This morning is the first one Vernon & I have allowed Nathan to
cycle to school unaccompanied.

But that's what parents are for. And kids try very hard to enable parents to fulfil their purpose
in life ;-)

Tony

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Nathan set off with helmet on bonce and wearing his fluorescent/reflective

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waistcoat, as all his school clothes are dark (black apart from white

shirt &

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marroon jersey) - black shoes, socks, trousers & fleece.

Next time put his helmet on his head...

Motorists who have passed me on my bike tell me that a flashing blinkie light does more for
visibility than a reflective/fluorescent vest, even in daytime. Seems to be especially true in
inclement weather.
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How old is Nathan? Does his school have decent facilities for cyclists?

Well, a sort of partially covered bike shed with lots of bike racks.

Nowhere to

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store bike helmet - his teacher last year insisted on advance notice of

his

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cycling to be able to give permission to store his helmet in a locked

cupboard

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during the day. Go figure.

I I've always locked my helmet to the D-lock through one of the straps, taking care to position it
so that it won't fill up with rain or snow during the work day. The D-lock, of course, is then
locked to the bike frame, at least one bike wheel, and a fixed object.

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Just out of interest, why are you caging his equipment to him, and not cycling yourself?

I may be large, but I am not a commando - Back pack full of books + large graphics folio do not
easy transport make. Besides which the idea is to

allow

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Nathan to cycle alone, without his mother huffing & puffing along acting

as a

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cycling pack mule 🙂 We'll sort out the most effective way to transport

heavies

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by bike over the coming days.

I've been quite happy with a large messenger bag augented by a Carradice seat bag. The messenger bag
is nice because it rides lower on me for better stability on the bike than a backpack would offer,
it comes with me when I get off the bike (no worries of theft), and it has an attachment point for a
blinkie / LED light.
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Well done. Nathan will doubtless be fine and you will have spent the day worrying for nothing.

Oh I really, really hope so - but it doesn't stop the maternal instinct

from

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going into overdrive!

I may have mentioned previously how in 1981/2, I was finally allowed to cycle past Pound Lane,
Thatcham (we lived there in the early 80s) unaccompanied (my parents were worried about a depot
there where there were lots of HGVs). My mum would always say "be careful on your bike, with all
that traffic".

Unfortunately due to silly rules I wasn't allowed to cycle to secondary school (but I certainly make
up for it now)

Every time I go out now my mum *still* says "be careful on your bike, with all that traffic". I was
*31* last week 😉

Alex

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One local school had to admit that their ban on cycling to school could not be policed. Instead
they said that they would insist that anyone who cycled (ie brought a cycle into school) had to
have a helmet and that they would not allow helmets on the premises as they had no secure storage.

An extreme example of how helmet compulsion reduces cycling. Luckily secure indoor helmet storage is
not required. This link shows how to secure a bike using a D lock and a non-curly cable.

yellowjersey.orgHOW2LOCK.JPGOpen ↗

The cable simply has to be threaded though the helmet slats to secure that as well.

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Every time I go out now my mum *still* says "be careful on your bike, with all that traffic". I
was *31* last week 😉

Mine used to worry about me cycling too until I was well into my thirties. That's why I told Helen
there's really nothing she can do about it. It goes with motherhood. No amount of reassurance can
overcome her certain knowledge that cyclists sometimes get hurt. At least he's less likely than the
rest of us to get paving-slabbed if he's caught wearing bib shorts.

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Every time I go out now my mum *still* says "be careful on your bike, with all that traffic". I
was *31* last week 😉

I can remember dropping in on my Nanna once on the way home from work. At the time, the journey home
from my grandparents' house was about 8 miles, mostly along the A26 (Tunbridge Wells to
Crowborough). She was shocked that I planned to cycle home and made me promise to phone her as soon
as I arrived.

Of course, I forgot. I was so used to cycling that way (sometimes more than once a day) that I
didn't think when I got home "Ooh, I've just done something out of the ordinary, someone might be
worried". So a couple of hours later I received a frantic phone call to check that I'd arrived
home safely.

I was 24 at the time (soon afterwards I got into the habit of going there for dinner every Tuesday
evening, and she got used to the idea of me riding home, but of course she still worries).

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I still phone my parents when I've arrived home safely (by Tube & bus)!

Helen Age 44¾

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