Yorkshire 3 Peaks

"Steve Ray" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Guys

I've been given the joy of organising a walk at work and we've taken the
decision to go for the Yorkshire 3 Peaks. I've found one route for this
event at http://www.walkingenglishman.com/dales1.htm but this has
frightened (to say the least) some of the less keen off the walk due to
the distance covered

Has anyone got any other routes/plans for this event that, well, simply
don't cover as much distance but obviously take in all three peaks that
they would be willing to share with the group.

I'm more than happy to plan mine own route but why re-invent the wheel,
especially knowing that I'm bound to be taking quite a few grockles along

TIA

Steve

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Drop them off by coach at Ribblehead viaduct, then the route would be
Whernside -> Ingleborough -> Pen-y-Gent, then picking up the team at
Rainscar @ SD 843 714 Where there's loads of car parking space.

Must take at last 30% off the usual walk?

Jhimmy

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Guys

I've been given the joy of organising a walk at work and we've taken the
decision to go for the Yorkshire 3 Peaks. I've found one route for this
event at http://www.walkingenglishman.com/dales1.htm but this has
frightened (to say the least) some of the less keen off the walk due to
the distance covered

Has anyone got any other routes/plans for this event that, well, simply
don't cover as much distance but obviously take in all three peaks that
they would be willing to share with the group.

I'm more than happy to plan mine own route but why re-invent the wheel,
especially knowing that I'm bound to be taking quite a few grockles along

TIA

Steve

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Drop them off by coach at Ribblehead viaduct, then the route would be
Whernside -> Ingleborough -> Pen-y-Gent, then picking up the team at
Rainscar @ SD 843 714 Where there's loads of car parking space.

Must take at last 30% off the usual walk?

That's hardly doing the 3 peaks though is it?

Steve, I think the only section you can straighten out a bit is from Pen
y Ghent to Gearstones by going across the moors and that is gently
undulating.

You won't shorten it by much. How far did you tell your workmates it was
in the first place? Bear in mind the "challenge" is to do it in under 12
hours which basically means a route lasting 10 - 11.5 hours. Are your
"grockles" up for walking for this length of time? Oh and after doing
Pen y Ghent and Whernside, the final pull up Ingleborough from Humphrey
Bottom could come as a shock.

Roy.

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I've been given the joy of organising a walk at work and we've taken the
decision to go for the Yorkshire 3 Peaks. I've found one route for this
event at http://www.walkingenglishman.com/dales1.htm but this has
frightened
(to say the least) some of the less keen off the walk due to the distance
covered

Just for the record you don't need to go via Far Gearstones. It keeps
you off the road but adds both a bit of distance and a bit of ascent.
FWIW ISTR 24 miles and 5000 feet of ascent if you take the long way up
Whernside.

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Has anyone got any other routes/plans for this event that, well, simply
don't cover as much distance but obviously take in all three peaks
that they
would be willing to share with the group.

The 3 Peaks is traditionally taken to mean a closed circuit so you can't
cut much off the distance and still close the loop. OTOH despite the
website classifying the walk as very hard it is easy as challenge walks
go.

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I'm more than happy to plan mine own route but why re-invent the wheel,
especially knowing that I'm bound to be taking quite a few grockles along

Depends how fit your grockles are. I posted a TR about it a year or 2
back and have to admit that at my age I found it a hard nine and a half
hours but it should be within the scope of just about any moderately fit
person under 40 if they don't go mad at the beginning.

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Roger Chapman
Nearest Marilyn still to be visited - Great Orme.
89 miles as the crow flies,
considerably more as the walker drives.

"Steve Ray" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Guys

I've been given the joy of organising a walk at work and we've taken the
decision to go for the Yorkshire 3 Peaks. I've found one route for this
event at http://www.walkingenglishman.com/dales1.htm but this has
frightened (to say the least) some of the less keen off the walk due to
the distance covered

Has anyone got any other routes/plans for this event that, well, simply
don't cover as much distance but obviously take in all three peaks that
they would be willing to share with the group.

I'm more than happy to plan mine own route but why re-invent the wheel,
especially knowing that I'm bound to be taking quite a few grockles along

TIA

Steve

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We don't stop playing because we get old
We get old because we stop playing

Oh come on. Thats like saying how do we do Ben Nevis without the ascent and
the distance.

Roy

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How far did you tell your workmates it was in the first place?

According to the page it is approx 25m. I've tried to explain to them that
we do not NEED to follow this route as it may not be the best route for us
so I'm hoping we can shorten it

As regards completing the 3p in 12 hours that not a requirement for my
group, its more of a "get of your arses and do something exercise"

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Are your "grockles" up for walking for this length of time?

I hope they are up for the walk, as a team we've not done much walking in a
while and the consensus is to do something challenging again. We've not yet
set a date and I'm hoping mid June if only to give a large daylight window.
That way we can start the walk at approx very early oclock and finish early
evening. Other than that I don't mind camping overnight and completing the
next day.

Steve

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Guys

I've been given the joy of organising a walk at work and we've taken the
decision to go for the Yorkshire 3 Peaks. I've found one route for this
event at http://www.walkingenglishman.com/dales1.htm but this has
frightened (to say the least) some of the less keen off the walk due to
the distance covered

Has anyone got any other routes/plans for this event that, well, simply
don't cover as much distance but obviously take in all three peaks that
they would be willing to share with the group.

I'm more than happy to plan mine own route but why re-invent the wheel,
especially knowing that I'm bound to be taking quite a few grockles
along

TIA

Steve

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Drop them off by coach at Ribblehead viaduct, then the route would be
Whernside -> Ingleborough -> Pen-y-Gent, then picking up the team at
Rainscar @ SD 843 714 Where there's loads of car parking space.

Must take at last 30% off the usual walk?

That's hardly doing the 3 peaks though is it?

Steve, I think the only section you can straighten out a bit is from Pen y
Ghent to Gearstones by going across the moors and that is gently
undulating.

You won't shorten it by much. How far did you tell your workmates it was
in the first place? Bear in mind the "challenge" is to do it in under 12
hours which basically means a route lasting 10 - 11.5 hours. Are your
"grockles" up for walking for this length of time? Oh and after doing Pen
y Ghent and Whernside, the final pull up Ingleborough from Humphrey Bottom
could come as a shock.

Roy.

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Roy

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How far did you tell your workmates it was in the first place?

According to the page it is approx 25m. I've tried to explain to them that
we do not NEED to follow this route as it may not be the best route for us
so I'm hoping we can shorten it

The shortest distance round would be to draw dead straight lines between
the peaks - that comes to about 19 miles, 5700ft of ascent and 9 hours
duration.

Realistically, adding "mandatory wiggles" the shortest route I have come
up with (which is basically the same route as the one you quoted) is 22
miles, 5500 ft of ascent and 10 hours.

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As regards completing the 3p in 12 hours that not a requirement for my
group, its more of a "get of your arses and do something exercise"

No I didn't mean to suggest you had to do it in under 12 hours, I was
simply trying to give an impression of how long it takes. If your
"grockles" haven't done much for a while, if at all, it's my bet they
won't have 10 hours of walking in their legs.

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Are your "grockles" up for walking for this length of time?

I hope they are up for the walk, as a team we've not done much walking in a
while and the consensus is to do something challenging again. We've not yet
set a date and I'm hoping mid June if only to give a large daylight window.
That way we can start the walk at approx very early oclock and finish early
evening. Other than that I don't mind camping overnight and completing the
next day.

Assuming you start as usual in Horton, you could split the trip by
camping at the pub whose name escapes me between Whernside and
Ingleborough. It wouldn't be worth it though as you would need to carry
tents which would make life harder.

If you don't particularly want to do it in 1 day, you could arrive in
Horton in the afternoon, whizz up and down Pen y Ghent the same day (a
couple of hours will do it) then do the other 2 the next day (about 20
miles, 4000 ft of ascent, 8.5 hours)

Roy.

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Oh come on. Thats like saying how do we do Ben Nevis without the ascent
and the distance.

No not at all. There are many routes to ascend a mountain/hill. Some
better/more enjoyable than others. Life is about choices, as is making an
event like this enjoyable for eventers

Taking advice from other walkers in this group I find enjoyable and useful

Steve

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Guys

I've been given the joy of organising a walk at work and we've taken the
decision to go for the Yorkshire 3 Peaks. I've found one route for this
event at http://www.walkingenglishman.com/dales1.htm but this has
frightened (to say the least) some of the less keen off the walk due to
the distance covered

Has anyone got any other routes/plans for this event that, well, simply
don't cover as much distance but obviously take in all three peaks that
they would be willing to share with the group.

I'm more than happy to plan mine own route but why re-invent the wheel,
especially knowing that I'm bound to be taking quite a few grockles along

TIA

Steve

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We don't stop playing because we get old
We get old because we stop playing

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"Steve Ray" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Guys

I've been given the joy of organising a walk at work and we've taken the
decision to go for the Yorkshire 3 Peaks. I've found one route for this
event at http://www.walkingenglishman.com/dales1.htm but this has
frightened (to say the least) some of the less keen off the walk due to
the distance covered

Has anyone got any other routes/plans for this event that, well, simply
don't cover as much distance but obviously take in all three peaks that
they would be willing to share with the group.

I'm more than happy to plan mine own route but why re-invent the wheel,
especially knowing that I'm bound to be taking quite a few grockles along

Why don't you just stick to the norm and just follow the signs? There is so
much erosion from people trying to cut the milage. It's unbelievable, 'cause
you can't substantially!

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Bird watching in and around Craven & Pendle.
North Yorkshire and East Lancashire.
http://craven-and-pendle-birding.org/

Steve Ray said:

Guys

I've been given the joy of organising a walk at work and we've taken the
decision to go for the Yorkshire 3 Peaks. I've found one route for this
event at http://www.walkingenglishman.com/dales1.htm but this has
frightened (to say the least) some of the less keen off the walk due to
the distance covered

Has anyone got any other routes/plans for this event that, well, simply
don't cover as much distance but obviously take in all three peaks that
they would be willing to share with the group.

I'm more than happy to plan mine own route but why re-invent the wheel,
especially knowing that I'm bound to be taking quite a few grockles along

TIA

Steve

You sound like a liability. Such a walk would be far to arduous for your
average person who uses his car for everything and walks nowhere.

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Guys

I've been given the joy of organising a walk at work and we've taken the
decision to go for the Yorkshire 3 Peaks. > Has anyone got any other
routes/plans for this event that, well, simply don't cover as much
distance but obviously take in all three peaks that they would be willing
to share with the group.
Steve

Don't know when you're planning to do this walk Steve, but my brother and I
walked it several times on the same day as the Three Peaks race - which is
always the last Sunday in April. The race starts at 10am and we'd aim to
set off from Horton at 7am to be well on our way before the first runners
started to pass us. Normally we'd be coming off Ingleborough at the same
time as some of the stragglers, and back in Horton in time to watch the
prize-giving around 3pm. It all makes for a more interesting day and, who
knows, it may well inspire some of your 'grockles' to really get off their
backsides and take up the noble sport of fell-running - which is exactly
what it did to me!

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Roy

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How far did you tell your workmates it was in the first place?

According to the page it is approx 25m. I've tried to explain to them
that we do not NEED to follow this route as it may not be the best route
for us so I'm hoping we can shorten it

As regards completing the 3p in 12 hours that not a requirement for my
group, its more of a "get of your arses and do something exercise"

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Are your "grockles" up for walking for this length of time?

I hope they are up for the walk, as a team we've not done much walking in
a while and the consensus is to do something challenging again. We've not
yet set a date and I'm hoping mid June if only to give a large daylight
window. That way we can start the walk at approx very early oclock and
finish early evening. Other than that I don't mind camping overnight and
completing the next day.

Steve

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"Steve Ray" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Guys
>
> I've been given the joy of organising a walk at work and we've taken
> the decision to go for the Yorkshire 3 Peaks. I've found one route for
> this event at http://www.walkingenglishman.com/dales1.htm but this has
> frightened (to say the least) some of the less keen off the walk due to
> the distance covered
>
> Has anyone got any other routes/plans for this event that, well, simply
> don't cover as much distance but obviously take in all three peaks that
> they would be willing to share with the group.
>
> I'm more than happy to plan mine own route but why re-invent the wheel,
> especially knowing that I'm bound to be taking quite a few grockles
> along
>
> TIA
>
> Steve
>
>
> ---------

Drop them off by coach at Ribblehead viaduct, then the route would be
Whernside -> Ingleborough -> Pen-y-Gent, then picking up the team at
Rainscar @ SD 843 714 Where there's loads of car parking space.

Must take at last 30% off the usual walk?

That's hardly doing the 3 peaks though is it?

Steve, I think the only section you can straighten out a bit is from Pen
y Ghent to Gearstones by going across the moors and that is gently
undulating.

You won't shorten it by much. How far did you tell your workmates it was
in the first place? Bear in mind the "challenge" is to do it in under 12
hours which basically means a route lasting 10 - 11.5 hours. Are your
"grockles" up for walking for this length of time? Oh and after doing Pen
y Ghent and Whernside, the final pull up Ingleborough from Humphrey
Bottom could come as a shock.

Roy.

I've done the 3 peaks twice and on both occasions we took the left hand path
at Nether Lodge. This probably knocks a km or so off the walk, it does
unfortunately mean you have about 1.5 km walking on the road. The amount of
distance you may save is not a lot in the grand scheme of things. It's more
important that the group is fit enough for the task. An alternative is to
start at Ribblehead do Whernside and Ingleborough and then those who have
had enough can get the train back to Ribblehead while the rest do
Pen-y-ghent.

Before leading a group on such a walk you need to have an understanding of
their fitness, the only way to do that is training walks. Why not do each
one individually so people get a feel for what they are letting themselves
in for.

Regards

Bernard

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I've been given the joy of organising a walk at work and we've taken the
decision to go for the Yorkshire 3 Peaks.> Steve

Just been reading on the Fell Runners forum about a chap who aims to do the
Yorkshire Three Peaks three times in 24 hours. He's setting off from Horton
at 11am on Good Friday and is seeking people to join him. Now there's a
challenge!
Cheers!

Blimey how old are these people? I've been walking in the Dales for
years (Im 49 now) but have never done all 3 peaks in one day and have
no intention of doing so, i like to take in the view and relax....if
some of your people are not walkers they could get seriously in
trouble....don't take the 3 Peaks lightly jsut because a lot of people
do them!

If you must, do 2 Peaks in a day, Whernside and Ingleborough are
pretty close. That first view when you go up Ingleborough and are
looking over the Ribblehead viaduct is awesome in the original sense
of word, like looking at a moonscape! You can come at it a long way
round which makes it over 10 miles, and end up in Clapham village with
a few pints... 🙂

hth

Dave

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Guys

I've been given the joy of organising a walk at work and we've taken the
decision to go for the Yorkshire 3 Peaks. I've found one route for this
event at http://www.walkingenglishman.com/dales1.htm but this has
frightened (to say the least) some of the less keen off the walk due to
the distance covered

In the past I've walked on the road between Pen y Ghent and Whernside which
knocks a bit off the distance, ie 23.5 miles. There is a pub at
Chapel-le-Dale which could be used as a bail out point depending on what
time it opens and what time you start. The 'fit' people could finish the
walk and come back to pick the rest up. The only trouble with this strategy
is finding enough hardy souls to complete the walk, given the option of
having a pint. Probably a bad idea....

Don't expect everyone to complete though - come up with a plan B for the
stragglers.

Graham

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Guys

I've been given the joy of organising a walk at work and we've taken the
decision to go for the Yorkshire 3 Peaks.> Steve

Just been reading on the Fell Runners forum about a chap who aims to do
the Yorkshire Three Peaks three times in 24 hours. He's setting off from
Horton at 11am on Good Friday and is seeking people to join him. Now
there's a challenge!
Cheers!

Na! Been done on many occasions:-( Is there a "record" then for the times
under 24 hrs;-)
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Bird watching in and around Craven & Pendle.
North Yorkshire and East Lancashire.
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