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"Nina" <[email protected]> wrote

> Which is all pretty frustrating since we have been eating a very high
> quality diet... all whole grains and foods, mostly, little processed
> stuff of any kind, and proportions pretty much by the book. But we
> have been hungry all the time, and so on.

Doesn't sound like a high quality diet if it leaves you hungry and doesn't
work! Have you noticed much difference in your bg yet?

> It's quite obvious to me that it's just NOT working, and that's my
> primary motivation to give low carb a real shot... he's less enthused,
> but as long as he's not hungry, he's pretty much willing to eat what I
> put in front of him... so, well, as I said earlier, I'm trying to
> sneak him into this, which is easier than one might think. :)

I'm trying to get my daughter to cut down on her carbs. It ain't easy! She's
quite athletic now, very fit, into team sports and all that. I'm worried
about where she'll be in twenty years. Hard to get that through to a fifteen
year old girl!

Anyway, I'm buying a lot less of the crappy food for her and more of the
healthy stuff. Slowly. I don't want her to catch on. Also, I didn't want it
to be a "do as I say and not as I do" kind of thing. Now that I've been
eating better and losing weight for a while I am getting to the point where
I have some ground to stand on.

Now, if I could just get her to clean her room.
 
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 09:56:53 -0800, "em" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Nina" <[email protected]> wrote
>
>> Which is all pretty frustrating since we have been eating a very high
>> quality diet... all whole grains and foods, mostly, little processed
>> stuff of any kind, and proportions pretty much by the book. But we
>> have been hungry all the time, and so on.
>
>Doesn't sound like a high quality diet if it leaves you hungry and doesn't
>work! Have you noticed much difference in your bg yet?

Well, I mean "high quality" in the sense of whole foods, tons of
vegetables and not a lot of sugar/processed ****/etc. But hunger has
been a consistent problem, and it's not like we've been eating little
tiny portions or something.

I don't test, so I haven't noticed a measurable difference in
anything, but I have been a LOT less hungry and a LOT less tired, and
that says a lot to me.

>> It's quite obvious to me that it's just NOT working, and that's my
>> primary motivation to give low carb a real shot... he's less enthused,
>> but as long as he's not hungry, he's pretty much willing to eat what I
>> put in front of him... so, well, as I said earlier, I'm trying to
>> sneak him into this, which is easier than one might think. :)
>
>I'm trying to get my daughter to cut down on her carbs. It ain't easy! She's
>quite athletic now, very fit, into team sports and all that. I'm worried
>about where she'll be in twenty years. Hard to get that through to a fifteen
>year old girl!

Very. No idea of mortality. I think that the best you can do is
provide information that hopefully will be a framework for when she's
older.

>Anyway, I'm buying a lot less of the crappy food for her and more of the
>healthy stuff. Slowly. I don't want her to catch on. Also, I didn't want it
>to be a "do as I say and not as I do" kind of thing. Now that I've been
>eating better and losing weight for a while I am getting to the point where
>I have some ground to stand on.
>
>Now, if I could just get her to clean her room.

Ha! You are expecting far too much. I have a 13 year old son, and,
well, just forget it.

It is really hard, though, to drag someone reluctantly into any sort
of eating plan, even if they feel good on it, etc. We've actually
been going around on this all morning... I mean, what exactly is the
difference between, say, a lean hamburger (no bun) and a slice of
cheese, and a Subway sandwich with steak and cheese and lots of
vegetables? He claims that the first thing is "too rich" and the
second thing is just fine. Sigh.
 
"Nina" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 09:56:53 -0800, "em" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Nina" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>>> Which is all pretty frustrating since we have been eating a very high
>>> quality diet... all whole grains and foods, mostly, little processed
>>> stuff of any kind, and proportions pretty much by the book. But we
>>> have been hungry all the time, and so on.
>>
>>Doesn't sound like a high quality diet if it leaves you hungry and doesn't
>>work! Have you noticed much difference in your bg yet?
>
> Well, I mean "high quality" in the sense of whole foods, tons of
> vegetables and not a lot of sugar/processed ****/etc. But hunger has
> been a consistent problem, and it's not like we've been eating little
> tiny portions or something.
>
> I don't test, so I haven't noticed a measurable difference in
> anything, but I have been a LOT less hungry and a LOT less tired, and
> that says a lot to me.
>
>>> It's quite obvious to me that it's just NOT working, and that's my
>>> primary motivation to give low carb a real shot... he's less enthused,
>>> but as long as he's not hungry, he's pretty much willing to eat what I
>>> put in front of him... so, well, as I said earlier, I'm trying to
>>> sneak him into this, which is easier than one might think. :)
>>
>>I'm trying to get my daughter to cut down on her carbs. It ain't easy!
>>She's
>>quite athletic now, very fit, into team sports and all that. I'm worried
>>about where she'll be in twenty years. Hard to get that through to a
>>fifteen
>>year old girl!
>
> Very. No idea of mortality. I think that the best you can do is
> provide information that hopefully will be a framework for when she's
> older.
>
>>Anyway, I'm buying a lot less of the crappy food for her and more of the
>>healthy stuff. Slowly. I don't want her to catch on. Also, I didn't want
>>it
>>to be a "do as I say and not as I do" kind of thing. Now that I've been
>>eating better and losing weight for a while I am getting to the point
>>where
>>I have some ground to stand on.
>>
>>Now, if I could just get her to clean her room.
>
> Ha! You are expecting far too much. I have a 13 year old son, and,
> well, just forget it.
>
> It is really hard, though, to drag someone reluctantly into any sort
> of eating plan, even if they feel good on it, etc. We've actually
> been going around on this all morning... I mean, what exactly is the
> difference between, say, a lean hamburger (no bun) and a slice of
> cheese, and a Subway sandwich with steak and cheese and lots of
> vegetables? He claims that the first thing is "too rich" and the
> second thing is just fine. Sigh.

The problem is the bread: I would imagine it is made out of higly processed
grains, its full of carbs (sugar), eating it will make you fat, and thirty
minutes after you're done eating you're hungry again.

You really can't change a person. Maybe after he see's your success, he'll
want to hop on the boat.

I heard a religous quote somewhere, can't remember exactly what it was.
Something about a religous person worries more about his own observance and
what is in the stomachs of others as opposed to vice-versa.
 
em wrote:
> "Nina" <[email protected]> wrote
>
>> Which is all pretty frustrating since we have been eating a very high
>> quality diet... all whole grains and foods, mostly, little processed
>> stuff of any kind, and proportions pretty much by the book. But we
>> have been hungry all the time, and so on.
>
> Doesn't sound like a high quality diet if it leaves you hungry and
> doesn't work! Have you noticed much difference in your bg yet?
>
>> It's quite obvious to me that it's just NOT working, and that's my
>> primary motivation to give low carb a real shot... he's less
>> enthused, but as long as he's not hungry, he's pretty much willing
>> to eat what I put in front of him... so, well, as I said earlier,
>> I'm trying to sneak him into this, which is easier than one might
>> think. :)
>
> I'm trying to get my daughter to cut down on her carbs. It ain't
> easy! She's quite athletic now, very fit, into team sports and all
> that. I'm worried about where she'll be in twenty years. Hard to get
> that through to a fifteen year old girl!
>
> Anyway, I'm buying a lot less of the crappy food for her and more of
> the healthy stuff. Slowly. I don't want her to catch on. Also, I
> didn't want it to be a "do as I say and not as I do" kind of thing.
> Now that I've been eating better and losing weight for a while I am
> getting to the point where I have some ground to stand on.
>
> Now, if I could just get her to clean her room.

Now that could be a *real* battle:)
 
em wrote:

> Now, if I could just get her to clean her room.

Not only could I not get mine to clean her room, but couldn't get her to
stop trashing the rest of the house.

She's 24 now and keeps her place immaculate. Why the hell didn't *that*
habit start a decade earlier?

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Aaron Baugher wrote:

> Funny how that works, isn't it? I hate to think how many words I've
> written here and other places as responses, but when I sit in front of a
> blank page or web site, my mind just locks up. Writing an actual book
> seems like an impossible task. Just a lack of discipline on my part, I
> suppose.

I just need an editor... someone to sort through over a decade of posts
and organize them, and that *would* be a book.

--
http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/
 
Nina wrote:
> Me too... but the thing about apples, etc., is that they're what I'd
> call "grab fruits"... there they are in a bowl, you just have one.
> You don't have to take out the seeds, cube the melon, whatever. So
> it's just easier. But, on the other hand, if he's less hungry he eats
> less of all of these sorts of things.

Melon doesn't get eaten here unless it's already cut up so I cut it up
before I put it away, soon as I get home from the grocery.

Same with carrots, hubby loves raw carrots, but wants them peeled. If
they're in the fridge whole, he won't touch them.

Frankly, even my own laziness kicks in like that; I'm *much* more likely
to have salad for lunch if it's already made.

--
http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/
 
On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:36:47 -0500, Jackie Patti <[email protected]>
wrote:

>em wrote:
>
>> Now, if I could just get her to clean her room.
>
>Not only could I not get mine to clean her room, but couldn't get her to
>stop trashing the rest of the house.
>
>She's 24 now and keeps her place immaculate. Why the hell didn't *that*
>habit start a decade earlier?

Just be happy it started when it did -- my brother was a slob as a
teenager and a slob as an adult. And married a slob. We don't eat at
their house. ;-)



--
BlueBrooke
254/225/135
 
On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:42:53 -0500, Jackie Patti <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Nina wrote:
>> Me too... but the thing about apples, etc., is that they're what I'd
>> call "grab fruits"... there they are in a bowl, you just have one.
>> You don't have to take out the seeds, cube the melon, whatever. So
>> it's just easier. But, on the other hand, if he's less hungry he eats
>> less of all of these sorts of things.
>
>Melon doesn't get eaten here unless it's already cut up so I cut it up
>before I put it away, soon as I get home from the grocery.
>
>Same with carrots, hubby loves raw carrots, but wants them peeled. If
>they're in the fridge whole, he won't touch them.
>
>Frankly, even my own laziness kicks in like that; I'm *much* more likely
>to have salad for lunch if it's already made.

I'm ok with stuff like making salad... over the last year, I've cooked
so much that I think I'd make a decent sous chef somewhere. I'm FAST
with cutting things up and so forth. But stuff like melons and so
forth... you're absolutely right; they don't get eaten at all unless
as soon as I bring them home, I cut them up and refrigerate them.

Those "baby" carrots you can get are nice because they're already
prepped, but they're not as good as just peeling and cutting up your
own.
 
"Nina" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:42:53 -0500, Jackie Patti <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Nina wrote:
>>> Me too... but the thing about apples, etc., is that they're what I'd
>>> call "grab fruits"... there they are in a bowl, you just have one.
>>> You don't have to take out the seeds, cube the melon, whatever. So
>>> it's just easier. But, on the other hand, if he's less hungry he eats
>>> less of all of these sorts of things.
>>
>>Melon doesn't get eaten here unless it's already cut up so I cut it up
>>before I put it away, soon as I get home from the grocery.
>>
>>Same with carrots, hubby loves raw carrots, but wants them peeled. If
>>they're in the fridge whole, he won't touch them.
>>
>>Frankly, even my own laziness kicks in like that; I'm *much* more likely
>>to have salad for lunch if it's already made.
>
> I'm ok with stuff like making salad... over the last year, I've cooked
> so much that I think I'd make a decent sous chef somewhere. I'm FAST
> with cutting things up and so forth. But stuff like melons and so
> forth... you're absolutely right; they don't get eaten at all unless
> as soon as I bring them home, I cut them up and refrigerate them.

I buy the ones that are already cut up. They're more expensive, but its
better than watching mellons rot in the fridge :-(

>
> Those "baby" carrots you can get are nice because they're already
> prepped, but they're not as good as just peeling and cutting up your
> own.

I don't peel carots, I just eat them unpealed, including the end.
 
Jackie Patti wrote:
> em wrote:
>
>> Now, if I could just get her to clean her room.
>
> Not only could I not get mine to clean her room, but couldn't get her
> to stop trashing the rest of the house.
>
> She's 24 now and keeps her place immaculate. Why the hell didn't
> *that* habit start a decade earlier?

LOL that sounds very familiar:)
 
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