I think the main issue here is not the argument if she could have recovered fully I believe the sticking points are A. Why didn't mike just give custody to her parents and more importantly, if this was a "legal" execution and C. If one believes "C" then why not give her the same treatment you would give a dog, horse or criminal in some states...Giver her a lethal injection instead of making her dry up like a freakin prune for two weeks....limerickman said:
zapper said:
I only have one question... Would you let your mother lay there with out water, food or ice chips for two weeks...You just stated that all you could do was watch and ease the pain...You would have been arrested if Michael schiavo was your mothers husband...That is the point..politics aside. I too watched my Father-in law die (he was like a father to me, I loved him dearly)...We still provided water, ice chips and anything else we could to comfort him in his final days... That has nothing to do with politics, just human dignity..jaguar75 said:
zapper said:
Herin lies the problem...Hearsay.jaguar75 said:
zapper said:
Oh by the way my condolences...I lost my father in-law to a cancerous tumor of the brain and my mother just had a lobectamy (removal of the upper left lung)...Perhaps one could say it was only their business to let her die, but how about the method?jaguar75 said:
Lucky for mikey...jaguar75 said:
It could not have been suicide assist for Terry didn't ask for it. However, I would have rather that happen than think about what her parents and family had to endure...I would have been arrested for I would not have let my daughter be treated so inhumanely!
That's my point...14th amendment article III...
zapper said:
. There is "killing" & there is "murder". The two are different. 80% of Americans beleive Congress stuck its nose where it didn't belong. That says alot considering that approximately 80% of Americans beleive in some sort of God. Another thing, marriage is between two people & their god not two people their god & one of the spouses parents. Saying the parents would have "happily" kept here "alive" does not address the issue of what Mrs. Schiavo wanted only what here parents wanted. Finally we know there would have been no "cure", at least from stem cell research seeing as how the reseach, under this compassionate conservative admin. is limited to a dozen or so strains that have had the hell researched out of them. The law is the law. The judge was appointed by a Republican. I beleive this was for political points in 06' but to the Repub's dismay, the disappointing poll #'s (see above) came out. DIW, much like the Soc. Sec. "fix" (aka-get ($) out while the gettins' good)-wither on the vine Incidentally, as an aside, starving has been equating to "fasting" (christian?) which has been shown to induce hallucinations/euphoria.
You should be used to the term "murder." You libs use it all the time when referencing the means to which chickens and cows are prepared for our tables. BTW "thread master"? haha yeah, checkin in from the "POUND"?davidmc said:"Thread master" checking in here. I see the word "murder" being bandied about the last one or two pages & it distresses me
Wrongo again Peabody…First what about Megans Law, the Amber alert Roe vs Wade??? These are all cases where “government” got involved over one PERSON. Second, the biggest problem with the poll you mention were the questions. They were misleading…Might I refer you to the Zogby poll which had completely different results…You can find it easily but here is a couple of items for your doggy bowl… “The Zogby poll found that, if a person becomes incapacitated and has not expressed their preference for medical treatment, as in Terri's case, 43 percent say "the law presume that the person wants to live, even if the person is receiving food and water through a tube" while just 30 percent disagree.” Or how about his one…. "If a disabled person is not terminally ill, not in a coma, and not being kept alive on life support, and they have no written directive, should or should they not be denied food and water," the poll asked. A whopping 79 percent said the patient should not have food and water taken away while just 9 percent said yes.
There is has been no proof of this…This is your opinion
Where were you in 98 when you hero “Bill” was holding town meetings to do same????
Do me us a favor…How about staying away from your Alpo and doggy water bowl for two weeks and document the Euphoria you experience…No cheating now…no milk bones or ice chips…
Therefore you will savour life in a more positive way. It may not cut the mustard with the general shitbags you meet. Just say Hello to them.davidmc said:
davidmc said:
From Lokstah: She's possesing of a brain stem only, a primordial knob of neural tissue which governs involuntary responses to stimuli and facilitates basic involuntary body function. With no cerebral cortex, she's currently and will never again be capable of self-awareness, any form of cognition, fear, pleasure, pain or comfort. christians & Muslims (of which I am neither) fast for weeks at a time. Its less barbaric than electrocution of which a certain Gov. of a certain State, sharing a boundary w/ Mexico, had no trouble invoking even on womenzapper said:
