Home drink/gel recipes??

[Bruce Dickson]

Carl Brewer wrote:
> On 13 Jul 2005 19:59:18 -0700, "Bruce Dickson" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Carl Brewer wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Glucose is C6H12O6
> >>
> >> Dextrose is not quite the same, although it's very very
> >> similar
> >> It's
> >> C6H12O6·H2O
> >> ie: it's got water in it - or it's a wanky name for wet glucose.
> >
> >Interesting. Where did you get that information from? I thought it was
> >two names for the same thing.
>
> Dictionary.com

I did a bit more looking around on the web. It seems Dextrose and
Glucose are exactly the same as I thought. The one in the
Dictionary.com defintion C6H12O6·H2O is Dextrose monohydrate (ie
contains water) and C6H12O6 is Dextrose anhydrous (no water) see
http://www.starch.dk/isi/starch/glosary.htm not that it really matters
much since you put it in water to drink it.

Bruce.

 

[Random Data]

Carl Brewer wrote:

> Always laughed at the homebrew section, next to the soft drinks. Kids
> can stroll in, buy a kit, go home, make beer .. but they can't go
> into the boozatorium next door and buy ready-made beer.

That's simply because the law says it's illegal to supply *alcohol*.
Supplying the precursors is impossible to regulate, since you can
ferment just about any carbohydrate - witness the truly silly range of
beverages available. I'm sure someone, somewhere has tried to make
moonshine out of sunflowers, just for the silliness factor.

And anyway, it takes ~6 weeks to brew a batch (off the top of my head).
It's not like you're going to go on an impulse bender with a 6 week
cooling off period, at least not when Passion Pop can still be obtained
through various extra legal means.

Dave - who has seen what looked disturbingly like fermented Orange
Juice in a supermarket - 2L bottles aren't supposed to occupy around 3L
of space.

 

[Carl Brewer]

On 13 Jul 2005 23:59:19 -0700, "Bruce Dickson" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>

>I did a bit more looking around on the web. It seems Dextrose and
>Glucose are exactly the same as I thought. The one in the
>Dictionary.com defintion C6H12O6·H2O is Dextrose monohydrate (ie
>contains water) and C6H12O6 is Dextrose anhydrous (no water) see
>http://www.starch.dk/isi/starch/glosary.htm not that it really matters
>much since you put it in water to drink it.

heh, yes. I wonder why Steric (maker of staminade) would change
the name? Is it trendy to call glucose dextrose or something?

 

[Carl Brewer]

On 14 Jul 2005 02:14:19 -0700, "Random Data" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Carl Brewer wrote:
>
>> Always laughed at the homebrew section, next to the soft drinks. Kids
>> can stroll in, buy a kit, go home, make beer .. but they can't go
>> into the boozatorium next door and buy ready-made beer.
>
>That's simply because the law says it's illegal to supply *alcohol*.
>Supplying the precursors is impossible to regulate, since you can
>ferment just about any carbohydrate - witness the truly silly range of
>beverages available. I'm sure someone, somewhere has tried to make
>moonshine out of sunflowers, just for the silliness factor.

Of course, but it's still amusing

 

[PiledHigher]

On 14 Jul 2005 02:14:19 -0700, "Random Data" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Carl Brewer wrote:
>
>> Always laughed at the homebrew section, next to the soft drinks. Kids
>> can stroll in, buy a kit, go home, make beer .. but they can't go
>> into the boozatorium next door and buy ready-made beer.
>
>That's simply because the law says it's illegal to supply *alcohol*.
>Supplying the precursors is impossible to regulate, since you can
>ferment just about any carbohydrate - witness the truly silly range of
>beverages available. I'm sure someone, somewhere has tried to make
>moonshine out of sunflowers, just for the silliness factor.

Of course, but it's still amusing

Its not the brewing that is amusing.

 

[cfsmtb]

That's simply because the law says it's illegal to supply *alcohol*. Supplying the precursors is impossible to regulate, since you can ferment just about any carbohydrate - witness the truly silly range of
beverages available. I'm sure someone, somewhere has tried to make
moonshine out of sunflowers, just for the silliness factor.

I did something extremely stupid with woodwood & cinzano, once. Ended up in casualty. But one was young & silly there. I'm much more grownup now.

Ah, need a real cyclists beverage? Try a Radler, er shandy.
http://www.monteiths.co.nz/showroom/radler.html

PS. Monteiths Black seriously rocks. Dark, mysterious, the perfect winter beer.

 

[HughMann]

On 13 Jul 2005 23:59:19 -0700, "Bruce Dickson" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>

>I did a bit more looking around on the web. It seems Dextrose and
>Glucose are exactly the same as I thought. The one in the
>Dictionary.com defintion C6H12O6·H2O is Dextrose monohydrate (ie
>contains water) and C6H12O6 is Dextrose anhydrous (no water) see
>http://www.starch.dk/isi/starch/glosary.htm not that it really matters
>much since you put it in water to drink it.

heh, yes. I wonder why Steric (maker of staminade) would change
the name? Is it trendy to call glucose dextrose or something?

Not a wizzard on this chemistry stuff but from the site above:
"Hydrol. Mother liquor left by crystallisation of dextrose from glucose syrup" and " Glucose. Glucose is a monosaccharide, C6H12O6 existing as a - and ß-glucose with an optical rotation of +105.2o respectively +20,3o. The synonym dextrose refers to the positive direction of rotation (dextra = right)"

So from that I gather that glucose syrup with the hydrol removed is dextrose. I have no idea what food value hydrol has.
Looks as if dextrose is powder and glucose can be liquid or powder.
Are we confused yet.

Hugh

 

[Carl Brewer]

On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:29:26 +1000, HughMann
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Carl Brewer Wrote:
>> On 13 Jul 2005 23:59:19 -0700, "Bruce Dickson" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> >I did a bit more looking around on the web. It seems Dextrose and
>> >Glucose are exactly the same as I thought. The one in the
>> >Dictionary.com defintion C6H12O6·H2O is Dextrose monohydrate (ie
>> >contains water) and C6H12O6 is Dextrose anhydrous (no water) see
>> >http://www.starch.dk/isi/starch/glosary.htm not that it really
>> matters
>> >much since you put it in water to drink it.
>>
>> heh, yes. I wonder why Steric (maker of staminade) would change
>> the name? Is it trendy to call glucose dextrose or something?
>
>Not a wizzard on this chemistry stuff but from the site above:
>"Hydrol. Mother liquor left by crystallisation of dextrose from glucose
>syrup" and " Glucose. Glucose is a monosaccharide, C6H12O6 existing as a
>- and ß-glucose with an optical rotation of +105.2o respectively +20,3o.
>The synonym dextrose refers to the positive direction of rotation
>(dextra = right)"
>
>So from that I gather that glucose syrup with the hydrol removed is
>dextrose. I have no idea what food value hydrol has.
>Looks as if dextrose is powder and glucose can be liquid or powder.
>Are we confused yet.

Heh, I did a number of chemistry subjects at Uni, but I don't recall
there being any interesting ways to organise glucose - it's a very
simple molecule and not really subject to any isomer issues with
rotation (it's not Thalidomide!). It's just a straight chain, all it
can do is twist, but it still stays the same :


Then again ... have a look at this site :

http://www.herts.ac.uk/natsci/Bio/schools/glucose/notes.htm


Hrm!

 

[Carl Brewer]

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:57:46 +1000, cfsmtb
<[email protected]> wrote:


>PS. Monteiths Black seriously rocks. Dark, mysterious, the perfect
>winter beer.

Is that code for Guinness?

 

[Carl Brewer]

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:42:25 +1000, Carl Brewer <[email protected]>
wrote:


>Then again ... have a look at this site :
>
>http://www.herts.ac.uk/natsci/Bio/schools/glucose/notes.htm
>
>

and this one is clearer :

http://www.biotopics.co.uk/as/glucose2.html