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  1. Couldn't see any other posts relating to this so I thought it was worth a
    mention.

    www.bikeforall.net

    Quote direct from the site:
    "Bikeforall.net is a joint initiative of the Bicycle Association and the
    Department for Transport via the National Cycling Strategy Board. This site
    is brand new, there will be teething problems, gaps, omissions and outright
    slip-ups. Bear with us during our launch phase. The site will improve over
    time, and your feedback will be welcome"

    The site is edited by Carlton Reid who also edits BikeBiz.com. He has many
    years experience, both as a cyclist and a member of the bicycle industry.

    Ian

  2. in message <1096101715.EY3OgZ+pD7Ij1WpqadK9iA@teranews>, wheelsgoround

    (') said:

    Couldn't see any other posts relating to this so I thought it was
    worth a mention.

    www.bikeforall.net

    Quote direct from the site:
    "Bikeforall.net is a joint initiative of the Bicycle Association and
    the Department for Transport via the National Cycling Strategy Board.
    This site is brand new, there will be teething problems, gaps,
    omissions and outright slip-ups. Bear with us during our launch phase.
    The site will improve over time, and your feedback will be welcome"

    The site is edited by Carlton Reid who also edits BikeBiz.com. He has
    many years experience, both as a cyclist and a member of the bicycle
    industry.

    I appreciate that no-one reading this newsgroup cares, but I am now
    going to have yet another rant ABOUT STUPID FSCKING CRETINS WHO DON'T
    UNDERSTAND HOW THE FSCKING DNS WORKS OR IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.

    If you are producing a website which is not about the bit of the
    Internet backbone you directly operate and manage DO NOT REGISTER A
    DOMAIN IN .NET WHICH IS EXCLUSIVELY RESERVED FOR THE NETWORK BACKBONE.

    If you are producing a website which is intended to address people in
    the United Kingdom, WOULDN'T IT BE JOLLY USEFUL IF YOU REGISTERED THE
    DOMAIN IN .UK?

    Stupid [censored] braindead snivelling wet-between-the-ears scummy toerag
    idiot cretins. What is the point of building networks for people to
    stupid to use them?

    Here endeth the rant for today.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; It appears that /dev/null is a conforming XSL processor.

  3. Simon Brooke said:

    in message <1096101715.EY3OgZ+pD7Ij1WpqadK9iA@teranews>, wheelsgoround

    (') said:

    Couldn't see any other posts relating to this so I thought it was
    worth a mention.

    www.bikeforall.net

    Quote direct from the site:
    "Bikeforall.net is a joint initiative of the Bicycle Association and
    the Department for Transport via the National Cycling Strategy Board.
    This site is brand new, there will be teething problems, gaps,
    omissions and outright slip-ups. Bear with us during our launch phase.
    The site will improve over time, and your feedback will be welcome"

    The site is edited by Carlton Reid who also edits BikeBiz.com. He has
    many years experience, both as a cyclist and a member of the bicycle
    industry.

    I appreciate that no-one reading this newsgroup cares, but I am now
    going to have yet another rant ABOUT STUPID FSCKING CRETINS WHO DON'T
    UNDERSTAND HOW THE FSCKING DNS WORKS OR IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.

    If you are producing a website which is not about the bit of the
    Internet backbone you directly operate and manage DO NOT REGISTER A
    DOMAIN IN .NET WHICH IS EXCLUSIVELY RESERVED FOR THE NETWORK BACKBONE.

    If you are producing a website which is intended to address people in
    the United Kingdom, WOULDN'T IT BE JOLLY USEFUL IF YOU REGISTERED THE
    DOMAIN IN .UK?

    Stupid [censored] braindead snivelling wet-between-the-ears scummy toerag
    idiot cretins. What is the point of building networks for people to
    stupid to use them?

    Here endeth the rant for today.

    Although I agree totally with the rant, it's got absolutely nothing with
    *how* dns works. Standards and best practices yes.

    But then again, when there are 30 html errors on the index page (
    including no doctype ) what do you expect from this bunch of amateurs.
    Inline javascript, the same js file included twice, inclide css,
    included css...

    Aren't the government directives covering things like this?

    Well, they thanked me for my comments. I wonder if I'll get any further
    replies.

    I'll let you know.

    Steve
    PS. Can you get me fibre to my door?

  4. Steve said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    in message <1096101715.EY3OgZ+pD7Ij1WpqadK9iA@teranews>, wheelsgoround

    (') said:

    Couldn't see any other posts relating to this so I thought it was
    worth a mention.

    www.bikeforall.net

    Quote direct from the site:
    "Bikeforall.net is a joint initiative of the Bicycle Association and
    the Department for Transport via the National Cycling Strategy Board.
    This site is brand new, there will be teething problems, gaps,
    omissions and outright slip-ups. Bear with us during our launch phase.
    The site will improve over time, and your feedback will be welcome"

    The site is edited by Carlton Reid who also edits BikeBiz.com. He has
    many years experience, both as a cyclist and a member of the bicycle
    industry.

    I appreciate that no-one reading this newsgroup cares, but I am now
    going to have yet another rant ABOUT STUPID FSCKING CRETINS WHO DON'T
    UNDERSTAND HOW THE FSCKING DNS WORKS OR IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.

    If you are producing a website which is not about the bit of the
    Internet backbone you directly operate and manage DO NOT REGISTER A
    DOMAIN IN .NET WHICH IS EXCLUSIVELY RESERVED FOR THE NETWORK BACKBONE.

    If you are producing a website which is intended to address people in
    the United Kingdom, WOULDN'T IT BE JOLLY USEFUL IF YOU REGISTERED THE
    DOMAIN IN .UK?

    Stupid [censored] braindead snivelling wet-between-the-ears scummy toerag
    idiot cretins. What is the point of building networks for people to
    stupid to use them?

    Here endeth the rant for today.

    Although I agree totally with the rant, it's got absolutely nothing with
    *how* dns works. Standards and best practices yes.

    But then again, when there are 30 html errors on the index page (
    including no doctype ) what do you expect from this bunch of amateurs.
    Inline javascript, the same js file included twice, inclide css,


    should have said inline css, not inclide

    Quoted message said:

    included css...

    Aren't the government directives covering things like this?

    Well, they thanked me for my comments. I wonder if I'll get any further
    replies.

    I'll let you know.

    Steve
    PS. Can you get me fibre to my door?

    Unbelievable... here's the reply.

    [email hidden] - no such user here.

    There is no user by that name at this server.
    : Message contains [1] file attachments

    Comments are rejected! This must be a wind-up, right? A joke site, not
    one subsidised by the taxpayer?

    Steve.

  5. Simon Brooke said:

    I appreciate that no-one reading this newsgroup cares, but I am now
    going to have yet another rant ABOUT STUPID FSCKING CRETINS WHO DON'T
    UNDERSTAND HOW THE FSCKING DNS WORKS OR IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.

    If you are producing a website which is not about the bit of the
    Internet backbone you directly operate and manage DO NOT REGISTER A
    DOMAIN IN .NET WHICH IS EXCLUSIVELY RESERVED FOR THE NETWORK BACKBONE.

    It was - but I don't think it is any longer. The rule was enforced
    patchily, and eventually had to be changed to reflect actual practice.
    Much the same thing has happened with .org and .org.uk.

    Quoted message said:

    If you are producing a website which is intended to address people in
    the United Kingdom, WOULDN'T IT BE JOLLY USEFUL IF YOU REGISTERED THE
    DOMAIN IN .UK?

    Well, that would be a sensible thing to do.

    Daniele
    --
    Apple Juice Ltd
    Chapter Arts Centre
    Market Road www.apple-juice.co.uk
    Cardiff CF5 1QE 029 2019 0140

  6. Steve said:
    Steve said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    in message <1096101715.EY3OgZ+pD7Ij1WpqadK9iA@teranews>, wheelsgoround
    ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

    > Couldn't see any other posts relating to this so I thought it was
    > worth a mention.
    >
    > www.bikeforall.net
    >
    > Quote direct from the site:
    > "Bikeforall.net is a joint initiative of the Bicycle Association and
    > the Department for Transport via the National Cycling Strategy Board.
    > This site is brand new, there will be teething problems, gaps,
    > omissions and outright slip-ups. Bear with us during our launch phase.
    > The site will improve over time, and your feedback will be welcome"
    >
    > The site is edited by Carlton Reid who also edits BikeBiz.com. He has
    > many years experience, both as a cyclist and a member of the bicycle
    > industry.

    I appreciate that no-one reading this newsgroup cares, but I am now
    going to have yet another rant ABOUT STUPID FSCKING CRETINS WHO DON'T
    UNDERSTAND HOW THE FSCKING DNS WORKS OR IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.

    If you are producing a website which is not about the bit of the
    Internet backbone you directly operate and manage DO NOT REGISTER A
    DOMAIN IN .NET WHICH IS EXCLUSIVELY RESERVED FOR THE NETWORK BACKBONE.

    If you are producing a website which is intended to address people in
    the United Kingdom, WOULDN'T IT BE JOLLY USEFUL IF YOU REGISTERED THE
    DOMAIN IN .UK?

    Stupid [censored] braindead snivelling wet-between-the-ears scummy toerag
    idiot cretins. What is the point of building networks for people to
    stupid to use them?

    Here endeth the rant for today.

    Although I agree totally with the rant, it's got absolutely nothing
    with *how* dns works. Standards and best practices yes.

    But then again, when there are 30 html errors on the index page (
    including no doctype ) what do you expect from this bunch of amateurs.
    Inline javascript, the same js file included twice, inclide css,

    should have said inline css, not inclide

    Quoted message said:

    included css...

    Aren't the government directives covering things like this?

    Well, they thanked me for my comments. I wonder if I'll get any
    further replies.

    I'll let you know.

    Steve
    PS. Can you get me fibre to my door?

    Unbelievable... here's the reply.

    [email hidden] - no such user here.

    There is no user by that name at this server.
    : Message contains [1] file attachments

    Comments are rejected! This must be a wind-up, right? A joke site, not
    one subsidised by the taxpayer?

    Steve.


    Rima Design...

    "A design, presentation and web company offering highly creative and
    professional services based in SE1, Bankside, Central London. Visit the
    site to view our full list of services."

    Nice one, Andy.

    I'll stop now... I'm starting to get as wound up as Simon!

    Steve

  7. wheelsgoround said:

    Couldn't see any other posts relating to this so I thought it was worth a
    mention.

    www.bikeforall.net

    Quote direct from the site:
    "Bikeforall.net is a joint initiative of the Bicycle Association and the
    Department for Transport via the National Cycling Strategy Board. This site
    is brand new, there will be teething problems, gaps, omissions and outright
    slip-ups. Bear with us during our launch phase. The site will improve over
    time, and your feedback will be welcome"

    The site is edited by Carlton Reid who also edits BikeBiz.com. He has many
    years experience, both as a cyclist and a member of the bicycle industry.

    Ian

    A bit of a work in progress, I think.

    The section "Wacko Stuff" is surely not intended for release. Unless
    they intend all the recumbent stuff to go there, of course.

    And pages (Home > for everyday cycling > Wacko stuff) where the body
    text comprises entirely of "Why can't I change the existing titles???"
    looks suspiciously unfinished.

  8. Steve said:

    I'll stop now... I'm starting to get as wound up as Simon!

    There's worse to come...

    They've created an open relay with "Tell a friend". How long before the
    spammers find it?

    Mike

  9. Steve said:


    Steve
    PS. Can you get me fibre to my door?

    Tell me where your door is and I'll send a box of All Bran round ;-)

    Tony

  10. In news:[email hidden],
    Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:

    in message <1096101715.EY3OgZ+pD7Ij1WpqadK9iA@teranews>, wheelsgoround

    (') said:

    Couldn't see any other posts relating to this so I thought it was
    worth a mention.

    www.bikeforall.net

    I appreciate that no-one reading this newsgroup cares, but I am now
    going to have yet another rant ABOUT STUPID FSCKING CRETINS WHO DON'T
    UNDERSTAND HOW THE FSCKING DNS WORKS OR IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.

    If you are producing a website which is not about the bit of the
    Internet backbone you directly operate and manage DO NOT REGISTER A
    DOMAIN IN .NET WHICH IS EXCLUSIVELY RESERVED FOR THE NETWORK BACKBONE.

    If you are producing a website which is intended to address people in
    the United Kingdom, WOULDN'T IT BE JOLLY USEFUL IF YOU REGISTERED THE
    DOMAIN IN .UK?

    Stupid [censored] braindead snivelling wet-between-the-ears scummy toerag
    idiot cretins. What is the point of building networks for people to
    stupid to use them?

    Here endeth the rant for today.

    And of course, double minus points for consumer ISPs which HAVE ASSIGNED
    EMAIL ADDRESS IN THE .net.uk DOMAIN ONLY TO MAKE ALL THEIR BLOODY CUSTOMERS
    CHANGE THEM TO .COM ONES WITH BARELY 3 MONTHS NOTICE OF THE MIGRATION WHEN
    ..net.uk GETS ENFORCED AS SUCH. WELL, WORLD'S BIGGEST PLAGIARISTS, I'M NOT
    ADVERTISING YOU ANY MORE WITH MY EMAIL ADDRESS.

    A

  11. in message <[email hidden]>, Steve ([email hidden]'😉

    Quoted message said:
    Steve said:

    Comments are rejected! This must be a wind-up, right? A joke site,
    not one subsidised by the taxpayer?


    Rima Design...

    "A design, presentation and web company offering highly creative and
    professional services based in SE1, Bankside, Central London. Visit
    the site to view our full list of services."

    You know, when people ask me what I do these days, I say I write
    software. Which is true of course. I don't admit that I write software
    that drives websites. I used to say so ten years ago - I used to be
    proud to. But not any longer... I feel too embarrassed. The whole web
    development industry in this country seems to be in the hands of
    charlatans, cowboys and crooks.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; An enamorata is for life, not just for weekends.

  12. Simon Brooke said:

    proud to. But not any longer... I feel too embarrassed. The whole web
    development industry in this country seems to be in the hands of
    charlatans, cowboys and crooks.

    You think it is any better in other countries?

    --
    Andy Leighton => [email hidden]
    "The Lord is my shepherd, but we still lost the sheep dog trials"
    - Robert Rankin, _They Came And Ate Us_

  13. Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    in message <1096101715.EY3OgZ+pD7Ij1WpqadK9iA@teranews>, wheelsgoround

    (') said:

    Couldn't see any other posts relating to this so I thought it was
    worth a mention.

    www.bikeforall.net

    Quote direct from the site:
    "Bikeforall.net is a joint initiative of the Bicycle Association and
    the Department for Transport via the National Cycling Strategy Board.
    This site is brand new, there will be teething problems, gaps,
    omissions and outright slip-ups. Bear with us during our launch phase.
    The site will improve over time, and your feedback will be welcome"

    The site is edited by Carlton Reid who also edits BikeBiz.com. He has
    many years experience, both as a cyclist and a member of the bicycle
    industry.

    I appreciate that no-one reading this newsgroup cares, but I am now
    going to have yet another rant ABOUT STUPID FSCKING CRETINS WHO DON'T
    UNDERSTAND HOW THE FSCKING DNS WORKS OR IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.

    If you are producing a website which is not about the bit of the
    Internet backbone you directly operate and manage DO NOT REGISTER A
    DOMAIN IN .NET WHICH IS EXCLUSIVELY RESERVED FOR THE NETWORK BACKBONE.

    If you are producing a website which is intended to address people in
    the United Kingdom, WOULDN'T IT BE JOLLY USEFUL IF YOU REGISTERED THE
    DOMAIN IN .UK?

    Stupid [censored] braindead snivelling wet-between-the-ears scummy toerag
    idiot cretins. What is the point of building networks for people to
    stupid to use them?

    Here endeth the rant for today.

    -------------------------------

    Slightly worried that the web is becoming the domain of bitter tech
    heads and macintosh obsessive propellerheads. The main issue is surely
    the marketing and promotion of the Bikeforall.net domain. Getting it
    about, promoting it and getting people out riding - the site's aim is
    surely this. The domain issue is thorougly overblown here.

    RE: http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    Doesn't work on my mac - it crashes the browser. Perhaps someone
    should check. IT seems certain people live in big greenhouses...
    ....and a large stone has been thrown.

    Here endeth the 'opinion' for today.

  14. "Haro Boy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Slightly worried that the web is becoming the domain of bitter tech
    heads and macintosh obsessive propellerheads.

    WTF? I think you'll find it's the other way round - it started off as the
    domain of bitter tech heads, but is now dominated by other sorts of people.

    clive

  15. : Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    :>
    :> If you are producing a website which is not about the bit of the
    :> Internet backbone you directly operate and manage DO NOT REGISTER A
    :> DOMAIN IN .NET WHICH IS EXCLUSIVELY RESERVED FOR THE NETWORK BACKBONE.

    No it isn't, and it hasn't been for a very long time. You might think it
    should be, but it that doesn't make it so.

    ..net.uk used to be reserved for ISP's etc and I think that's still the case
    but I wouldn't swear to it. The US seems to have given up on having any
    distinction between .com, .org and .net other than "what was available and
    we could sell".....

    Arthur

    --
    Arthur Clune PGP/GPG Key: http://www.clune.org/pubkey.txt
    "Blogs are neither necessary nor sufficient for evil to triumph.
    They're just what we call an enabling technology" - Danny O'Brien

  16. (Haro Boy) said:

    Slightly worried that the web is becoming the domain of bitter tech
    heads and macintosh obsessive propellerheads.

    No, that would only be a good thing since bitter tech heads seem to
    spend a great deal more time analysing things before they try them
    than Windoze weenies, and Mac obsessives tend not to mess with
    something if it works perfectly well, so leave the important stuff to
    the bitter tech heads :-)

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University

  17. in message <[email hidden]>, Haro Boy

    (') said:

    Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    in message <1096101715.EY3OgZ+pD7Ij1WpqadK9iA@teranews>,

    wheelsgoround (') said:

    Couldn't see any other posts relating to this so I thought it was
    worth a mention.

    www.bikeforall.net

    If you are producing a website which is intended to address people in
    the United Kingdom, WOULDN'T IT BE JOLLY USEFUL IF YOU REGISTERED THE
    DOMAIN IN .UK?

    Stupid [censored] braindead snivelling wet-between-the-ears scummy
    toerag idiot cretins. What is the point of building networks for
    people to stupid to use them?

    Here endeth the rant for today.

    Slightly worried that the web is becoming the domain of bitter tech
    heads and macintosh obsessive propellerheads. The main issue is surely
    the marketing and promotion of the Bikeforall.net domain.

    An important part of marketing and promoting it is putting it in the
    right place so that people can find it. If you put your cookery books
    in a section of the library marked 'philology', you can;t be surprised
    if no-one buys them.

    Quoted message said:

    RE: http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    Doesn't work on my mac - it crashes the browser.

    Then fix your browser.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; All in all you're just another nick in the ball
    -- Think Droid

  18. Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote:

    : An important part of marketing and promoting it is putting it in the
    : right place so that people can find it.

    You mean google?

    --
    Arthur Clune PGP/GPG Key: http://www.clune.org/pubkey.txt
    "Blogs are neither necessary nor sufficient for evil to triumph.
    They're just what we call an enabling technology" - Danny O'Brien

  19. in message <[email hidden]>, Arthur Clune

    (') said:

    Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote:

    : An important part of marketing and promoting it is putting it in the
    : right place so that people can find it.

    You mean google?

    Yes, google for cycling sites in the UK and you won't find it, because
    Google uses the DNS too.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; It appears that /dev/null is a conforming XSL processor.

  20. Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Arthur Clune

    (') said:

    Simon Brooke <[email hidden]> wrote:

    : An important part of marketing and promoting it is putting it in the
    : right place so that people can find it.

    You mean google?

    Yes, google for cycling sites in the UK and you won't find it, because
    Google uses the DNS too.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; It appears that /dev/null is a conforming XSL processor.


    And that of course has nothing to do with the .net TLD, and probably much more to do with a newly live website, and perhaps not having enough inbound links from other sites.

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