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  1. I retired my last Sachs PC-51 chain today. Pulled it off the bike for deep
    cleaning and found lots of little cracks in the outer plates. Instead I got
    out a PC-68, cleaned the packing grease off and installed it. Maybe I'll
    get major mileage out of this one too.

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  2. Ground Control said:

    Instead I got
    out a PC-68, cleaned the packing grease off and installed it.

    Why would anyone do such a thing?

    Silliness abounds.

  3. p e t e f a g e r l i n <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Ground Control said:

    Instead I got
    out a PC-68, cleaned the packing grease off and installed it.

    Why would anyone do such a thing?

    To make more work for themselves? I can't see taking lube off of a
    chain to lube it again.

    Quoted message said:

    Silliness abounds.

    I really don't think Nelson rides in the dirt all that much.

    JD

  4. "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    p e t e f a g e r l i n <[email hidden]> wrote


    in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Ground Control said:

    Instead I got
    out a PC-68, cleaned the packing grease off and installed it.

    Why would anyone do such a thing?

    To make more work for themselves? I can't see taking lube off of a
    chain to lube it again.

    I can. The packing grease is way to sticky and holds on to grit. I always
    start fresh with the lube of my choice.

    Mike

  5. "Michael Dart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    p e t e f a g e r l i n <[email hidden]>


    wrote

    Quoted message said:

    in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ground Control wrote:
    > Instead I got
    > out a PC-68, cleaned the packing grease off and installed it.

    Why would anyone do such a thing?

    To make more work for themselves? I can't see taking lube off of a
    chain to lube it again.

    I can. The packing grease is way to sticky and holds on to grit. I


    always

    Quoted message said:

    start fresh with the lube of my choice.

    Mike

    Exactly. Packing grease is meant to protect a chain from humidity and other
    environmental issues. It may or may not protect a chain during its intended
    use. Cleaning it to bare metal lets me put a lube I *know* does the job and
    it keeps it as pure as possible. Besides, it's fun work and when you're
    done the chain glistens like jewelry (at least until you get to the
    trailhead!)

    Nelson <---seeing more and more dirt as his ankle heals.

  6. Nelson @ International Bicycle said:

    "Michael Dart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    p e t e f a g e r l i n <[email hidden]>

    wrote

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    in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    >Ground Control wrote:
    >
    >>Instead I got
    >>out a PC-68, cleaned the packing grease off and installed it.
    >
    >Why would anyone do such a thing?

    To make more work for themselves? I can't see taking lube off of a
    chain to lube it again.

    I can. The packing grease is way to sticky and holds on to grit. I

    always

    Quoted message said:

    start fresh with the lube of my choice.

    Mike

    Exactly. Packing grease is meant to protect a chain from humidity and other
    environmental issues. It may or may not protect a chain during its intended
    use. Cleaning it to bare metal lets me put a lube I *know* does the job and
    it keeps it as pure as possible. Besides, it's fun work and when you're
    done the chain glistens like jewelry (at least until you get to the
    trailhead!)

    Nelson <---seeing more and more dirt as his ankle heals.

    ROTFLMAO!

    Time to educate yourself, once again.

    I would suggest that you take a moment away from
    playing with your dolls and do a few searches on RBT.

    Good luck.

  7. "p e t e f a g e r l i n" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Nelson @ International Bicycle said:

    "Michael Dart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >p e t e f a g e r l i n <[email hidden]>

    wrote

    Quoted message said:

    in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    >>Ground Control wrote:
    >>
    >>>Instead I got
    >>>out a PC-68, cleaned the packing grease off and installed it.
    >>
    >>Why would anyone do such a thing?
    >
    >To make more work for themselves? I can't see taking lube off of a
    >chain to lube it again.
    >

    I can. The packing grease is way to sticky and holds on to grit. I

    always

    Quoted message said:

    start fresh with the lube of my choice.

    Mike

    Exactly. Packing grease is meant to protect a chain from humidity and


    other

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    environmental issues. It may or may not protect a chain during its


    intended

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    use. Cleaning it to bare metal lets me put a lube I *know* does the job


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    it keeps it as pure as possible. Besides, it's fun work and when you're
    done the chain glistens like jewelry (at least until you get to the
    trailhead!)

    Nelson <---seeing more and more dirt as his ankle heals.

    ROTFLMAO!

    Time to educate yourself, once again.

    I would suggest that you take a moment away from
    playing with your dolls and do a few searches on RBT.

    Good luck.

    Like I care what a few people who claim to be some kind of gurus about bike
    knowledge have said in the past. I'm talking about my own bikes and I know
    what I like for them to do. I still laugh when I read those holier than
    thou snobs chastise people for "Appealing to a higher authority" on some
    technical issue when folks are doing exactly that referring to that group.

    So, Petey-boy, tell me what lube SRAM uses on their chains. What properties
    does the grease possess? How well will it protect my chain from wear? How
    well will it shed dirt? I can answer all those questions about my Pro-Link.

    If I were using Shimano's chains and if what they coat them is any relation
    to the grease they sell, I wouldn't use that stuff to wipe the inside of a
    seat tube.

  8. p e t e f a g e r l i n <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Nelson @ International Bicycle said:

    "Michael Dart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >p e t e f a g e r l i n <[email hidden]>

    wrote

    Quoted message said:

    in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    >>Ground Control wrote:
    >>
    >>>Instead I got
    >>>out a PC-68, cleaned the packing grease off and installed it.
    >>
    >>Why would anyone do such a thing?
    >
    >To make more work for themselves? I can't see taking lube off of a
    >chain to lube it again.
    >

    I can. The packing grease is way to sticky and holds on to grit. I

    always

    Quoted message said:

    start fresh with the lube of my choice.

    Mike

    Exactly. Packing grease is meant to protect a chain from humidity and other
    environmental issues. It may or may not protect a chain during its intended
    use. Cleaning it to bare metal lets me put a lube I *know* does the job and
    it keeps it as pure as possible. Besides, it's fun work and when you're
    done the chain glistens like jewelry (at least until you get to the
    trailhead!)

    Nelson <---seeing more and more dirt as his ankle heals.

    ROTFLMAO!

    Time to educate yourself, once again.

    His procedure does not damage or have any negative
    affect on chainlife, so what's the big deal other than making you
    feel like you know something?

    Quoted message said:

    I would suggest that you take a moment away from
    playing with your dolls and do a few searches on RBT.

    Now that's some [censored] poor advice.

    A search there shows that there are just as many who clean off
    the original lube and use something else as there are those who
    leave it on.

  9. "R.White" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    |p e t e f a g e r l i n <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    | > Nelson @ International Bicycle wrote:
    | > > "Michael Dart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > > news:[email hidden]...
    | > >
    | > >>"JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > >>news:[email hidden]...
    | > >>
    | > >>>p e t e f a g e r l i n <[email hidden]>
    | > >
    | > > wrote
    | > >
    | > >>in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    | > >>
    | > >>>>Ground Control wrote:
    | > >>>>
    | > >>>>>Instead I got
    | > >>>>>out a PC-68, cleaned the packing grease off and installed it.
    | > >>>>
    | > >>>>Why would anyone do such a thing?
    | > >>>
    | > >>>To make more work for themselves? I can't see taking lube off of a
    | > >>>chain to lube it again.
    | > >>>
    | > >>
    | > >>I can. The packing grease is way to sticky and holds on to grit. I
    | > >
    | > > always
    | > >
    | > >>start fresh with the lube of my choice.
    | > >>
    | > >>Mike
    | > >
    | > >
    | > > Exactly. Packing grease is meant to protect a chain from humidity and
    other
    | > > environmental issues. It may or may not protect a chain during its
    intended
    | > > use. Cleaning it to bare metal lets me put a lube I *know* does the
    job and
    | > > it keeps it as pure as possible. Besides, it's fun work and when
    you're
    | > > done the chain glistens like jewelry (at least until you get to the
    | > > trailhead!)
    | > >
    | > > Nelson <---seeing more and more dirt as his ankle heals.
    | >
    | >
    | > ROTFLMAO!
    | >
    | > Time to educate yourself, once again.
    |
    | His procedure does not damage or have any negative
    | affect on chainlife, so what's the big deal other than making you
    | feel like you know something?
    |
    | > I would suggest that you take a moment away from
    | > playing with your dolls and do a few searches on RBT.
    |
    | Now that's some [censored] poor advice.
    |
    | A search there shows that there are just as many who clean off
    | the original lube and use something else as there are those who
    | leave it on.

    This is another one of those debates where neither side is actually wrong.
    I had specific reasons for cleaning my chain. I don't normally do this when
    I install chains for customers unless they ask for it.

    Then too, what if I was applying Pedro's Syn-lube? The directions tell you
    to do exactly what I've done.

    Petey-boy is also missing the fact that I enjoyed the process of cleaning
    and deep-lubing the chain. It was interesting work. May not be if I did it
    20 times a week, but hey.

    ---
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  10. Im afraid i have to agree with ground control on this one, every chain ive
    just 'thrown on' and used has ended up gritted up instantly, sucky and wears
    pretty fast. I only ever cleaned a new one once and lobbed on my fave chain
    lube to start - ive never thought about it before but that was about the
    longest lasting chain ive used. OBviously make and model are important and i
    cant remember all of them but ive used from top of the range (when i worked
    in a bike shop and got it for trade price) down to the lowest sachs unit so
    its a reasonably fair trial IMO.
    J

  11. Nelson @ International Bicycle said:

    "p e t e f a g e r l i n" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Nelson @ International Bicycle said:

    Exactly. Packing grease is meant to protect a chain from humidity and

    other

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    environmental issues.

    It's lube you dolt.

    Do you think that the chain makers use a different
    material on chains destined for the aftermarket as
    opposed to the OEM chains that they supply?

    The bikie manufacturers require that the chains be
    coated in a lube.

    The fact that you're puzzled by whether the lube
    is a lube is frightening. Especially (once again)
    as someone who purports to work in the bike industry.

    It may or may not protect a chain during its

    Quoted message said:


    intended

    See above.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ROTFLMAO!

    Time to educate yourself, once again.

    I would suggest that you take a moment away from
    playing with your dolls and do a few searches on RBT.

    Good luck.

    Like I care what a few people who claim to be some kind of gurus about bike
    knowledge have said in the past.

    So you "don't care" yet you responded....interesting.

    Quoted message said:

    So, Petey-boy, tell me what lube SRAM uses on


    their chains.

    A good one.

    What properties

    Quoted message said:

    does the grease possess?

    It lubes the chain.

    Quoted message said:

    How well will it protect my chain from wear?

    Very well, assuming that you actually ride your
    bike and take a break from playing with your dolls.

    Quoted message said:

    How
    well will it shed dirt?

    As well as many lubes.

    Quoted message said:

    I can answer all those questions about my Pro-Link.

    That's funny that you're so obssessed about your
    chain lube.

  12. "p e t e f a g e r l i n" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message news:[email hidden]...
    | Nelson @ International Bicycle wrote:
    |
    | > "p e t e f a g e r l i n" <[email hidden]>
    wrote
    | > in message news:[email hidden]...
    | >
    | >>Nelson @ International Bicycle wrote:
    | >>>Exactly. Packing grease is meant to protect a chain from humidity and
    | >
    | > other
    | >
    | >>>environmental issues.
    |
    | It's lube you dolt.

    Apparently you didn't see the old TV ads during the 80s "Motor Oil is Motor
    oil" the guy said as his bomb car spewed blue smoke everywhere. Baby oil
    will lube, why don't you slather some of that on your bike.

    | Do you think that the chain makers use a different
    | material on chains destined for the aftermarket as
    | opposed to the OEM chains that they supply?
    |
    | The bikie manufacturers require that the chains be
    | coated in a lube.

    They use the least expensive stuff that will do the job. They also don't
    have a consideration for the condition their product is used in.

    | The fact that you're puzzled by whether the lube
    | is a lube is frightening. Especially (once again)
    | as someone who purports to work in the bike industry.

    A lube isn't a lube. White Lightning is a lube but I think it performs like
    [censored]. WD40 technically is a lube and it's crappier still. What part of you
    self-important swelled head can't comprehend I want a *specific* lube?

    | It may or may not protect a chain during its
    | >
    | > intended
    |
    | See above.
    |
    |
    | >>ROTFLMAO!
    | >>
    | >>Time to educate yourself, once again.
    | >>
    | >>I would suggest that you take a moment away from
    | >>playing with your dolls and do a few searches on RBT.
    | >>
    | >>Good luck.
    | >
    | >
    | > Like I care what a few people who claim to be some kind of gurus about
    bike
    | > knowledge have said in the past.

    | So you "don't care" yet you responded....interesting.

    I responded, I didn't waste any time searching your other playground

    | > So, Petey-boy, tell me what lube SRAM uses on
    | their chains.
    |
    |
    | A good one.

    Not in my book. I've used glues less sticky.

    | What properties
    | > does the grease possess?
    |
    |
    | It lubes the chain.
    |
    | > How well will it protect my chain from wear?
    |
    | Very well, assuming that you actually ride your
    | bike and take a break from playing with your dolls.

    Petey boy, I also have collected fine pipes, model railroad, 1:48 scale
    military aircraft and have dabbled in writing science fiction. Why don't
    you make fun of that too. Or maybe you spend too much time looking for
    felching pictures.

    | > How
    | > well will it shed dirt?
    |
    |
    | As well as many lubes.

    Uh uh. One ride and it is black!

    | > I can answer all those questions about my Pro-Link.
    |
    | That's funny that you're so obssessed about your
    | chain lube.

    So Petey boy, what do you put in your car? The no-name [censored] at the 7-11 or
    a quality motor oil that will preserve your investment? Last time I looked
    you bike seemed to be worth several times what mine is. Interesting to know
    you don't give a [censored] when it comes to taking care of it. Or maybe your
    precious camera is the only thing you care about.

    The cracked chain I took off was stripped and treated with Pedro's when it
    was new. I forget how old it is but SRAM hadn't bought out SACHS when I put
    it on. It's older than the computer on the bike at the moment and it reads
    over 4500 miles. Seems like 10 minutes of work really had a nice return.

    You've spent more time proving your a puffed up toad responding to me than I
    spent changing the lube on my chain.

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  13. Ground Control said:

    "p e t e f a g e r l i n" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    | It's lube you dolt.

    Apparently you didn't see the old TV ads during the 80s "Motor Oil is Motor
    oil" the guy said as his bomb car spewed blue smoke everywhere. Baby oil
    will lube, why don't you slather some of that on your bike.

    It's lube you dolt.

    Quoted message said:

    They use the least expensive stuff that will do the job. They also don't
    have a consideration for the condition their product is used in.

    And how do you know this?

    The base lube has worked just fine for me in a
    variety of conditions (note: you have to actually
    ride a bike in varying conditions to make this
    comparison).

    Quoted message said:

    | The fact that you're puzzled by whether the lube
    | is a lube is frightening. Especially (once again)
    | as someone who purports to work in the bike industry.

    A lube isn't a lube. White Lightning is a lube but I think it performs like
    [censored]. WD40 technically is a lube and it's crappier still.

    ROTFLMAO! More evidence of your idiocy. WD 40 is
    not a lube. Go figure.

    What part of you

    Quoted message said:

    self-important swelled head can't comprehend I want a *specific* lube?

    The fact that you fantasize that you need a
    "specific" lube speaks volumes about your
    obsessiveness.

    Quoted message said:

    | > Like I care what a few people who claim to be some kind of gurus about
    bike
    | > knowledge have said in the past.

    | So you "don't care" yet you responded....interesting.

    I responded, I didn't waste any time searching your other playground

    It's not one of my playgrounds. It is a good
    resource if you're confronted with folks who get
    all wrapped up in the myth and lore about bikes.
    Kind of like idiots who claim that straight gauge
    spokes are more durable wheels...sounds like an
    enormous doll-playing-with bike shop [censored] who
    posts on amb some times.

    Quoted message said:

    | > So, Petey-boy, tell me what lube SRAM uses on
    | their chains.
    |
    |
    | A good one.

    Not in my book. I've used glues less sticky.

    Note: you have to ride to be able to make the
    comparison.

    Quoted message said:

    | Very well, assuming that you actually ride your
    | bike and take a break from playing with your dolls.

    Petey boy, I also have collected fine pipes, model railroad, 1:48 scale
    military aircraft and have dabbled in writing science fiction. Why don't
    you make fun of that too. Or maybe you spend too much time looking for
    felching pictures.

    I think it's much more funny to contemplate your
    fetish for soldier dolls. It speaks volumes.

    (do you take naughty pictures of the dolls doing
    things to each other?)

    Quoted message said:

    | > How
    | > well will it shed dirt?
    |
    |
    | As well as many lubes.

    Uh uh. One ride and it is black!

    The HORROR!!

    p.s. My Prolink lubed chain, my WL lubed chain, my
    Pedro's lubed chain, etc. can also look black
    after one ride.

    Quoted message said:

    | > I can answer all those questions about my Pro-Link.
    |
    | That's funny that you're so obssessed about your
    | chain lube.

    So Petey boy, what do you put in your car?

    What the manufacturer recommends and what lube is
    required to maintain the warranty. Is there a
    required lube for a chain's warranty blubberpuss?
    Horrible analogy.

    Quoted message said:

    Last time I looked
    you bike seemed to be worth several times what mine is. Interesting to know
    you don't give a [censored] when it comes to taking care of it.

    ROTFLMAO!

    Not stripping a perfectly good lube from a chain
    is "not taking care of a bike"? Even for you, that
    is [censored] idiotic.

    Quoted message said:

    Or maybe your
    precious camera is the only thing you care about.

    That's equally bizarre.

    Bikes, cars, cameras...they're just toys. A
    different type of toy than the dolls that you
    apparently like to fondle so much but toys
    nonetheless.

  14. My opinion:
    Always remove the original thick grease if you ride anywhere at all
    gritty
    (But whatever works best for you...)

  15. "Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    | My opinion:
    | Always remove the original thick grease if you ride anywhere at all
    | gritty
    | (But whatever works best for you...)
    |

    One of the points Pete Fagerlin missed completely. I didn't recommend this
    as the one and only way of doing things. I don't even mention this
    procedure to customers unless they ask for Pedro's Syn-Lube (which we don't
    stock so it doesn't come up.)

    What I do doesn't fit into his narrow-minded ideal. **** him.

    I just got back from the first real ride with the new chain on. Rode on a
    very gritty, pea-grain gravel trail, some 7 miles worth. Ran my hands over
    the chain as I put the bike up. Clean and clear. Drivetrain performed
    flawlessly (XT tend to do that)

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  16. "Ground Control" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "R.White" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    |p e t e f a g e r l i n <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    | > Nelson @ International Bicycle wrote:
    | > > "Michael Dart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > > news:[email hidden]...
    | > >
    | > >>"JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > >>news:[email hidden]...
    | > >>
    | > >>>p e t e f a g e r l i n <[email hidden]>
    | > >
    | > > wrote
    | > >
    | > >>in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    | > >>
    | > >>>>Ground Control wrote:
    | > >>>>
    | > >>>>>Instead I got
    | > >>>>>out a PC-68, cleaned the packing grease off and installed it.
    | > >>>>
    | > >>>>Why would anyone do such a thing?
    | > >>>
    | > >>>To make more work for themselves? I can't see taking lube off of a
    | > >>>chain to lube it again.
    | > >>>
    | > >>
    | > >>I can. The packing grease is way to sticky and holds on to grit. I
    | > >
    | > > always
    | > >
    | > >>start fresh with the lube of my choice.
    | > >>
    | > >>Mike
    | > >
    | > >
    | > > Exactly. Packing grease is meant to protect a chain from humidity and
    other
    | > > environmental issues. It may or may not protect a chain during its
    intended
    | > > use. Cleaning it to bare metal lets me put a lube I *know* does the
    job and
    | > > it keeps it as pure as possible. Besides, it's fun work and when
    you're
    | > > done the chain glistens like jewelry (at least until you get to the
    | > > trailhead!)
    | > >
    | > > Nelson <---seeing more and more dirt as his ankle heals.
    | >
    | >
    | > ROTFLMAO!
    | >
    | > Time to educate yourself, once again.
    |
    | His procedure does not damage or have any negative
    | affect on chainlife, so what's the big deal other than making you
    | feel like you know something?
    |
    | > I would suggest that you take a moment away from
    | > playing with your dolls and do a few searches on RBT.
    |
    | Now that's some [censored] poor advice.
    |
    | A search there shows that there are just as many who clean off
    | the original lube and use something else as there are those who
    | leave it on.

    This is another one of those debates where neither side is actually wrong.
    I had specific reasons for cleaning my chain. I don't normally do this when
    I install chains for customers unless they ask for it.

    Then too, what if I was applying Pedro's Syn-lube? The directions tell you
    to do exactly what I've done.

    But, but...they must be wrong as we know Peter never is.

    Quoted message said:

    Petey-boy is also missing the fact that I enjoyed the process of cleaning
    and deep-lubing the chain. It was interesting work. May not be if I did it
    20 times a week, but hey.

    He misses a lot of facts.

  17. "Michael Dart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    p e t e f a g e r l i n <[email hidden]> wrote


    in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ground Control wrote:
    > Instead I got
    > out a PC-68, cleaned the packing grease off and installed it.

    Why would anyone do such a thing?

    To make more work for themselves? I can't see taking lube off of a
    chain to lube it again.

    I can. The packing grease is way to sticky and holds on to grit. I always
    start fresh with the lube of my choice.

    Funny, I've never had any chain performance or wear issues from not
    stripping and relubing a new chain. Then again, I'd rather ride my
    bike than work on it.

    JD

  18. "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Then again, I'd rather ride my bike than spend time with my kid
    JD

  19. p e t e f a g e r l i n said:

    ROTFLMAO! More evidence of your idiocy. WD 40 is not a lube. Go figure.

    true, they only market it as such (sorta). it's kind of implied...they
    lead you there and want you to fill in the blanks (a million uses and
    counting!) :-D

    bri

    --

    * enjoying the karma *
    remove LKJSDFJSD from address to email

  20. "[censored] Shop Stiffy" <hgfkmndvkytecsbemytbdmiunmswyeuiworeiowgfiorgjreoiiuwjdwuowyjfriogh,[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    LOL. P e t e F A G e r l i n, you truly are a moron.

    I'd take that as a compliment, coming from the standard fare anonymous
    netpunk who comes complete with a truly lame "handle".

    JD

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