backpacking and weight reduction

Paul Saunders said:

John Laird said:

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Hey, those are top quality Bird's Eye 100% Beef Quarter Pounders!

But having said that, you are right, the box lists 20g protein and
19g fat per burger.

Well, that's not too bad considering. My Scottish beef sausage
products are 30%.

Beef, fat or what?

Both, probably :-( (I meant fat, but the pack says 50% beef. As all the
fat is in that rather than the water or rusk, I guess that means 20% lean
meat.)

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Anyway, *you* said they were half the size
afterwards ;-)

They are! But when I look at the tray full of fat that's poured out of
them, I'm glad to be eating the healthy half and not the rest. The
thought of eating all that fat just doesn't bear thinking about when you
see it like that.

Well, it gives you something to fry your three eggs in...

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To be honest, a burger with the fat cooked right out is kind of
bland for me

I rather like the taste, and the chewy texture. I bought some fresh
spicy burgers the other day and they were absolutely gorgeous without
the fat.

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(And
yes, I do realise this means that much of what we perceive as "taste"
in meat is in fact the fat rather than the flesh.)

No doubt. Perhaps I should leave just a little fat in them?

Depends on how much you really like the taste of chewy cardboard ?

I rarely eat burgers, it must be said.

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Two or three years ago, when I had all those blood tests done, he did
tell me that I might be, and I quote, "slightly diabetic", because my
blood sugar was a little high, but that it was nothing to worry about.
I'm pretty sure that I'd eaten a lot of sugary foods before I had the
test one.

That was my problem when I had my first blood test. I was stacked high
with sugar - not thinking anything of it, and my reading was 17.3mmols
taken less than an our after lunch.

I don't know why doctors say things like "You only slightly diabetic"
They wouldn't tell a lady "You're slightly pregnant" would they?
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Bill Grey
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Paul Saunders said:

The
thought of eating all that fat just doesn't bear thinking about when you
see it like that.

That's the way I have thought about my weight loss. I am just trying
to be sensible. I eat three meals a day, every day, but I am missing
out the snacking I used to do.

I have lost about 10 or 11 pounds although you'd not know by looking
at me.

BUT ..... imagine 10 lbs of fat .... in a big wobbly pile. Ugh. That
used to be somewhere in my body. Yukky.

Judith

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I find the shape of the ever increasing population of obese people far
more alarming than any statistics.

Where are they all, though ? I still see a lot of normal-sized people
about. According to hmg, skinnies are an endangered species.

Probably the company you keep. There are loads of enormous people at
the place where I work.
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I find the shape of the ever increasing population of obese people far
more alarming than any statistics.

Where are they all, though ? I still see a lot of normal-sized people
about. According to hmg, skinnies are an endangered species.

Probably the company you keep. There are loads of enormous people at
the place where I work.

We're not all skinnyribses by any means! I like walking, but I
don't walk fast and I like my food... and have a dress size that
most 'normal' shops didn't used to cater for. I'm doing
something about that, but even though I might get down to a more
healthy size I'll never be slim - I'm just not built that way.
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as a dire warning.

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I'm doing
something about that, but even though I might get down to a more
healthy size I'll never be slim - I'm just not built that way.

Actually, though I hate to admit it, the government's 10,000 step a day
advice (coupled with 1200 kcal a day diet worked for me). And I thought
I was stuck at my (excessive) weight for good too.

But I'm sure you are not as big as some at my workplace. I'm talking
20-30 stone people easily. Too easy to over indulge on low cost
college food.

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Judith said:

BUT ..... imagine 10 lbs of fat .... in a big wobbly pile. Ugh. That
used to be somewhere in my body. Yukky.

Depends which part of one's body you are talking about ;-)

It's only a fuel store. I don't suppose Mother Nature cares much for its
appearance as long as it does its job. I like honey, for example. It is,
however, bee vomit.

And on that note...

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John Laird said:

I like honey, for example. It is,
however, bee vomit.

I *used to* like honey too! :-(

Judith

Judith said:

John Laird said:

I like honey, for example. It is,
however, bee vomit.

I *used to* like honey too! :-(

Judith

Better not mention that to Phil!

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Paul

(Watch this space)

W. D. Grey said:

That was my problem when I had my first blood test. I was stacked high
with sugar - not thinking anything of it, and my reading was 17.3mmols
taken less than an our after lunch.

I don't know why doctors say things like "You only slightly diabetic"
They wouldn't tell a lady "You're slightly pregnant" would they?

No, but I'm guessing that diabetes is a condition that creeps up on you
and gets progressively worse, so it's probably not a black and white
thing like being pregnant. "Slightly diabetic" may be a warning that
I've just started to descend the slippery slope.

Paul
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In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Saunders
<[email hidden]> writes

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I don't know why doctors say things like "You only slightly diabetic"
They wouldn't tell a lady "You're slightly pregnant" would they?

No, but I'm guessing that diabetes is a condition that creeps up on you
and gets progressively worse, so it's probably not a black and white
thing like being pregnant. "Slightly diabetic" may be a warning that
I've just started to descend the slippery slope.

To clarify my remark, Having been diagnosed as diabetic I've heard a
doctor say -"You're only slightly diabetic" which is a different thing
from saying "You may be diabetic- have your blood glucose checked"".

I hope you are not diabetic, although it can be fairly easily controlled
with a strict diet, weight control before considering drugs.

You are neither fat enough nor old enough for mature onset diabetes
though:-)

Hope for the best eh

Regard
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Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

W. D. Grey said:

To clarify my remark, Having been diagnosed as diabetic I've heard a
doctor say -"You're only slightly diabetic" which is a different
thing from saying "You may be diabetic- have your blood glucose
checked"".

Indeed.

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I hope you are not diabetic,

I shouldn't think so...

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although it can be fairly easily
controlled with a strict diet, weight control before considering
drugs.

You are neither fat enough nor old enough for mature onset diabetes
though:-)

....but it is in my family so I don't want to develop it as I get older.
Best to take preventative steps now I reckon.

Paul
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In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Saunders
<[email hidden]> writes

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You are neither fat enough nor old enough for mature onset diabetes
though:-)

...but it is in my family so I don't want to develop it as I get older.
Best to take preventative steps now I reckon.

Very wise precaution - but medical advice should be considered.
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Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk