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  1. http://www.gazzetta.it/gazzetta/common/area_gazzetta/gallerie/galleria.html?ciclismo/2005/gennaio/coppi45&1

  2. B. Lafferty said:


    http://www.gazzetta.it/gazzetta/common/area_gazzetta/gallerie/galleria.html?ciclismo/2005/gennaio/coppi45&1

    I believe this is the photo that generated heated debate in the Coppi
    and Bartali camps over whom
    was handing water to whom...

    http://www.gazzetta.it/gazzetta/common/area_gazzetta/gallerie/galleria.html?ciclismo/2005/gennaio/coppi45&1

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    B. Lafferty said:


    http://www.gazzetta.it/gazzetta/common/area_gazzetta/gallerie/galleria.html?ciclismo/2005/gennaio/coppi45&1

    I believe this is the photo that generated heated debate in the Coppi
    and Bartali camps over whom
    was handing water to whom...

    The debate is still going on ... When Bartali died some of his supporters
    carried a banner with "Gino ask your water bottle back!". Of course, the
    most interesting question is not who was handing the water to whom, but why
    it generated such a heated debate for so many years. And by the way, if I'm
    giving something to someone, it's he who will be looking at the object and
    not I.

    Benjo

  4. Brian, you know people have written books claiming that
    Coppi doped, don't you? He never tested positive though.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

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    Brian, you know people have written books claiming that
    Coppi doped, don't you? He never tested positive though.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

    Coppi admitted that he doped.

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    Brian, you know people have written books claiming that
    Coppi doped, don't you? He never tested positive though.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

    If you haven't read it, Dino Buzzati (The Giro D'Italia-Coppi vs. Bartali at
    the 1949 Tour of Italy) has some interesting observations about doping in
    the peloton during the Coppi period. It's also a wonderfully literate book.

  7. benjo maso said:

    And by the way, if I'm
    giving something to someone, it's he who will be looking at the


    object and

    Quoted message said:

    not I.


    But not when handing off a baton while running a relay in track.

    Jim

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    Brian, you know people have written books claiming that
    Coppi doped, don't you? He never tested positive though.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

    If you haven't read it, Dino Buzzati (The Giro D'Italia-Coppi vs. Bartali
    at the 1949 Tour of Italy) has some interesting observations about doping
    in the peloton during the Coppi period. It's also a wonderfully literate
    book.

    I have to find me that book!

    For those that can read Italian, a pretty bit by Buzzati from the Corriere
    Della Sera, May 20, 1949 (not about Coppi, but very pretty)
    Parecchie cose, non moltissime, chi scrive ha visto correre, in un modo o
    nell'altro sopra la superficie del mare e della terra; mai però i grandi
    ciclisti in gara sotto il sole, con il numero attaccato alla schiena, i
    tubolari a tracolla e la faccia ingessata di polvere. Ha visto, per esempio,
    correre i bambini in ritardo verso la scuola, le saette del temporale
    attraverso il cielo, la gente in direzione dei rifugi antiaerei quando
    ululavano le sirene. Anche un ladro una volta ho visto correre, volava
    addirittura perché lo inseguivano, in via Andrea Del Sarto a Milano; e poi
    lo raggiunsero e lo pestarono, ma non potrei garantirlo perché tutto
    successe in fondo alla strada e c'era una grande confusione. Ho visto
    correre gli struzzi come schioppettate nel deserto d'Africa; correre
    attraverso la notte con molli e affascinanti curve i proiettili delle navi
    nemiche col loro luminoso rosso e qualcuno propriamente rimbalzava
    sull'acqua
    come un piattello, schizzando via impazzito. Ho visto correre i celeri treni
    all'approssimarsi del crepuscolo, coi loro finestrini già illuminati e i
    sogni e le fantasie pertinenti attraverso la campagna solitaria; ed erano
    bellissimi.

    Ho visto correre sulla via Aurelia, tanti anni fa, un ciclista in maglietta
    che si allenava e uno disse che era Girardengo, ma io credo di no, perché
    non gli assomigliava. Ho visto anche la staffetta di Carlo il Temerario
    correre ventre a terra per le selve, portando all'ultimo momento la grazia
    al suo fedele scudiero creduto per calunnia traditore e a cui il boia stava
    per spiccare la bionda testa; ma tutto questo succedeva al cinematografo e
    forse non era tutto vero. Ho visto coi miei occhi correre poco prima
    dell'alba
    sopra i tetti di Milano, un paio di dischi volanti; i quali erano di color
    rosso e amabili all'aspetto; tuttavia nessuno mi ha voluto credere. Ho visto
    correre il tempo, ahimè, quanti anni e mesi e giorni, in mezzo a noi uomini,
    cambiandoci la faccia a poco a poco; e la sua velocità spaventosa, benché
    non cronometrata, presumo sia molto più alta di qualsiasi media totalizzata
    da qualsiasi corridore in bicicletta, in auto o in aeroplano-razzo da che
    mondo è mondo.

  9. B. Lafferty said:

    If you haven't read it, Dino Buzzati (The Giro D'Italia-Coppi vs. Bartali at
    the 1949 Tour of Italy) has some interesting observations about doping in
    the peloton during the Coppi period. It's also a wonderfully literate book.

    I assume you are referring to the beautiful and poetic account of the
    rider close to physical collapse who uses amphetamines in a futile
    attempt to avoid inevitable and complete breakdown.

    A wonderful book.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

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