Re: Doug, read this was Re: New Year Resolution

Ignoramus21190 said:

SwStudio said:

"Ignoramus21190" <[email hidden]>

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Pick any link on top, it will tell you that "complex carbohydrates"
are starchy foods, one example of which is pringles.

So, if all complex carbs are basically the same (more or less),
then an elite runner should do well on a diet of Pringles, as
according to you there's no difference between them and say,
whole wheat pasta or brown rice.

I did not say that there is no difference between, say, pringles and
pasta. There is, for example pringles have fat in them and pasta may
or may not contain fat,

All foods contain fats. Even a carrot has fat.

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depending on how it is cooked. There could be
other differences, like vitamins or fiber or something else.

How something is cooked has no bearing, although
nutrition wise cooked foods are sometimes better
than raw.

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But all carbs end up doing the same in our body, they are broken down
into simpe sugar, hit the bloodstream, and are absrbed by liver,

It's not that simple. Your health, metabolism,
and energy levels throughout the day are also a
function of the types of foods you eat. You could
eat nothing but candy bars but you'll be hyperglycemic
and store little glycogen for running...

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muscles etc, and used by the brain. Excess carbs are converted to fat
and stored. Carbs are not as complicated as, say, proteins (with their
essential amino acids) or fats (with a variety of different fatty
acids, some essential). Our bodies can make fats out of carbs, but not
every kind of fat that we need, only some kinds.

The body will store as fat all excess food you eat,
especially proteins.

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Running Log: http://igor.chudov.com/weightloss/exercise.txt

I have nothng of value to contribute to this thread. Just personal
amusement. Congratulatons David..,...your speech has made money for
Google and will perhaps generate Revenue for some on-line etailers and
Pringles forever, going forward. You created the below ads to be
delivered to those viewing r.r. with Google.

Pringles Potato Chips
Free Unlimited Access To Delicious
Snack Recipes. Wide Variety!
www.RecipeRewards.com

Buy Pringle Here
Buy online small cans of Pringles
12 cans just $7.88
www.NationWideCandy.com

There's lots of other nutrition ads too, but just cracked up when I
saw ads for friggen Pringles Potato Chips showing up.....

"Ignoramus21190" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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ROTFLMAO

Come to think of it, pringles, as complex carbohydrates, may indeed
find many buyers -- complex carb lovers -- from this newsgroup!

I would imagine most people on the group would be intelligent
enough to realize the difference between Pringles and wholesome
complex carbohydrates. You one the other hand seem to believe
that it's all the same. If that were true, an elite athlete could do
well on a diet of Pringles.

Your logic is like saying all cars are horrible because the Yugo
was. To you, a Yugo, a Ferrari, and a Ford are exactly the same,
because they are labelled under the general term "cars".

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com

Ignoramus21190 said:

Tom Phillips said:

Ignoramus21190 said:

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 19:10:34 -0500, SwStudio <[email hidden]> wrote:
> "Ignoramus21190" <[email hidden]>
>> Pick any link on top, it will tell you that "complex carbohydrates"
>> are starchy foods, one example of which is pringles.
>
>
> So, if all complex carbs are basically the same (more or less),
> then an elite runner should do well on a diet of Pringles, as
> according to you there's no difference between them and say,
> whole wheat pasta or brown rice.

I did not say that there is no difference between, say, pringles and
pasta. There is, for example pringles have fat in them and pasta may
or may not contain fat,

All foods contain fats. Even a carrot has fat.

Yes, one cup of carrots contains approximately 0.3 grams of fat!

Yes but you said "pasta may or may not contain fat."
My point was no such thing as "fat free." Yet another
health and media fallacy...

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depending on how it is cooked. There could be
other differences, like vitamins or fiber or something else.

How something is cooked has no bearing, although
nutrition wise cooked foods are sometimes better
than raw.

Well, a pasta cooked with butter would have fat, and plain pasta would
not. That's what I meant.

Pasta cooked with butter would have saturated fats;
pasta cooked without would still have fat but not
saturated fats.

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But all carbs end up doing the same in our body, they are broken down
into simpe sugar, hit the bloodstream, and are absrbed by liver,

It's not that simple. Your health, metabolism, and energy levels
throughout the day are also a function of the types of foods you
eat.

I agree.

All I'm saying is the issue is the type of carbs
you eat. It is an issue is whether they are refined
or not.

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You could eat nothing but candy bars but you'll be
hyperglycemic and store little glycogen for running...

A scary thought.

or donuts...

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muscles etc, and used by the brain. Excess carbs are converted to fat
and stored. Carbs are not as complicated as, say, proteins (with their
essential amino acids) or fats (with a variety of different fatty
acids, some essential). Our bodies can make fats out of carbs, but not
every kind of fat that we need, only some kinds.

The body will store as fat all excess food you eat,
especially proteins.

Also quite true.

I can get fat eating apples and carrots. But
fatter eating pringles 🙂

Ignoramus21190 said:

ROTFLMAO

Come to think of it, pringles, as complex carbohydrates, may indeed
find many buyers -- complex carb lovers -- from this newsgroup!

This jusnk food 🙂 _my_ favorite junk food is
kettle chips. got an ad for that?

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I have nothng of value to contribute to this thread. Just personal
amusement. Congratulatons David..,...your speech has made money for
Google and will perhaps generate Revenue for some on-line etailers and
Pringles forever, going forward. You created the below ads to be
delivered to those viewing r.r. with Google.

Pringles Potato Chips
Free Unlimited Access To Delicious
Snack Recipes. Wide Variety!
www.RecipeRewards.com

Buy Pringle Here
Buy online small cans of Pringles
12 cans just $7.88
www.NationWideCandy.com

There's lots of other nutrition ads too, but just cracked up when I
saw ads for friggen Pringles Potato Chips showing up.....

--
Running Log: http://igor.chudov.com/weightloss/exercise.txt

Now see...this is a difference between you and me David. You're
ripping a neophyte (and you know it). It's not a fair fight. I and
anyone can rip Ig on most all his postings. The neophytes should be
treated with kid gloves. OK, sometimes I slip and rip a newbie...but I
try not to. You can easily point them in the right direction, if
that were your interest....as opposed to making the less experienced
and knoweldged feel small.

Now you, Tim in the UK?....You're fair game and I'll poke fun as you
MF'ers all day! LOL!

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news:[email hidden]...

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It's not a fair fight. I and
anyone can rip Ig on most all his postings.

If only he knew this....

-DF

<[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Now see...this is a difference between you and me David. You're
ripping a neophyte (and you know it). It's not a fair fight.

Oh, snap. I thought for sure he had his GED.

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com

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Now see...this is a difference between you and me David. You're
ripping a neophyte (and you know it). It's not a fair fight. I and

He's was already trolling before you even knew what usenet was.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

"Ignoramus4718" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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I was nominated for Troll of the Year 1996, but, I think, other events
intervened (very scandalous elections of at least two Kooks of the
Month), so the TOTY elections were not held. It's been a while and my
recollection may not be accurate in every detail. That nomination was
for creating alt.genius.bill-palmer, the most successful and
scandalous new usenet newsgroup in its first year, as of then.

Check out "Troll Anthology" at

http://www.xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/troll_anthology.html

``The universally-respected Usenet expert Professor
Chudov, for instance, makes it plain he believes
in a sort of "productive (my own term trying to
sum up what I have read by him) trolling", where
the troll generates entertaining or amusing follow-
up for the intellectual and/or amusement benefit
of the entire newsgroup by gently (or not so
gently) tweaking beaks now and then with thought-
provoking postings.''

Wow, I didn't know this! Okay, now I completely understand your
position on low-carbs. You're just trolling the group. I thought you
actually believed that nonsense!

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com

"Ignoramus4718" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 09:32:28 -0500, SwStudio <[email hidden]>

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Wow, I didn't know this! Okay, now I completely understand your
position on low-carbs. You're just trolling the group. I thought you
actually believed that nonsense!

What makes you take a logical leap from knowing that I was nominated
for Troll of the year in 1996, to concluding that I cannot, therefore,
believe in low carbing?

Nice try, troll - you fooled me for a while. I won't bite anymore.

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com

SwStudio said:

"Ignoramus4718" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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I was nominated for Troll of the Year 1996, but, I think, other

events

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intervened (very scandalous elections of at least two Kooks of the
Month), so the TOTY elections were not held. It's been a while and

my

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recollection may not be accurate in every detail. That nomination

was

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for creating alt.genius.bill-palmer, the most successful and
scandalous new usenet newsgroup in its first year, as of then.

Check out "Troll Anthology" at

http://www.xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/troll_anthology.html

``The universally-respected Usenet expert Professor
Chudov, for instance, makes it plain he believes
in a sort of "productive (my own term trying to
sum up what I have read by him) trolling", where
the troll generates entertaining or amusing follow-
up for the intellectual and/or amusement benefit
of the entire newsgroup by gently (or not so
gently) tweaking beaks now and then with thought-
provoking postings.''

Wow, I didn't know this! Okay, now I completely understand your
position on low-carbs. You're just trolling the group. I thought you
actually believed that nonsense!

David, I'm a little surpised it took you so long. Usually you are the
first to inform the group of the existence of a troll.

Best regards,

Ivan P. Pavlov
Leningrad, Russia

--
Perfect as the wing of a bird may be, it will never enable
the bird to fly if unsupported by the air. Facts are the
air of science. Without them a man of science can never rise.