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Considering new high end carbon frames

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  1. Quoted message said:
    Tom Sherman said:
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    But Trek finally caught onto this last year when they started

    marketing

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    the Madone. And now they have the Madone, Madone SL, and a few

    other

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    "special" frames. All you need is $5000+ to have a "special" Trek.
    Personally, when you get up to that price range, I wouldn't even
    consider a Trek.

    So the Trek does not have a high enough prestige to price ratio to be

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    worth consideration?

    --
    Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island

    For the most part, yes. You see a Trek OCLV under every Tom, [censored],
    Harry, etc. If I'm spending $5,000 or more on a bike, which I don't
    know if I ever would, I'd want some exclusivity. After all, you can
    spend $2,500 on a bike, at most, and get 100% of the functionality of
    the $5,000 plus bikes. So for that extra $2,500 or more you pay for
    the high end bike, you had better be buying something like exclusivity,
    fancy paint, prestigious name brand, etc. Otherwise, why pay the extra
    money?

    In other words, paying more than $2500 for a bicycle is just silly.

    I paid less than $2000 for my bike, and it is so exclusive that complete
    strangers address me by name on invitational rides. 🙂

    --
    Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island

  2. I asked Calfee about the type of carbon they use on their bikes. Their higher
    end bikes use Boron, a material that is used in military applications and thus
    cannot be distributed outside of the USA. Thus carbon bikes that are made in
    Taiwan or elsewhere, do not have this Boron material.

  3. Jee Doy said:

    I asked Calfee about the type of carbon they use on their bikes. Their higher
    end bikes use Boron, a material that is used in military applications and thus
    cannot be distributed outside of the USA. Thus carbon bikes that are made in
    Taiwan or elsewhere, do not have this Boron material.

    Boron is an element, just as carbon is. The notion that it exists only
    in the USA is laughable.

    --
    Ted Bennett
    Portland, OR

  4. Ted said:

    Boron is an element, just as carbon is. The notion that it exists
    only in the USA is laughable.

    This may not be the case with boron fiber as an engineered material and
    manufactured product.

    Matt O.

  5. I recommend that you go with a company that has a good warranty. I
    recomend either the Trek or Calfee frames or possibly the Kestrel. Some
    of the other frames such as Colnago's or Look frames are nice, but they
    only have a 3 or 5 year warranty and they are expensive as well.
    Personally I like the Calfee's since they are the only company to offer
    a custom composite frame. The Treks are nice, but I have heard reports
    that they all develop hairline cracks over time.

    Chris Cumo said:

    I currently ride a Merckx Corsa 01 steel framed beauty, but my eyes


    have

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    been wondering to the new carbon frames I'm seeing on the road


    everywhere.

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    I am very interested in the Kuota and Wilier Italian bikes. Does


    anyone

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    have experience with either of these makes? I'm 195 lbs and 5'9"


    tall. I'm

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    not a racer, but a very dedicated enthusiat who this year started


    working

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    with a cycling coach (lost 20lbs since I started). Obviously, carbon


    is

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    very strong, but I am concerned about durability of these ultra light


    frames

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    given my size.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    CC

  6. Jee Doy said:

    I asked Calfee about the type of carbon they use on their bikes. Their higher
    end bikes use Boron

    Boron is so named because it bores fine holes in anything with which it
    comes into contact - it's completely untrue that it's because it's usually
    mentioned by snobs boring one to tears in conversations about bikes.

    Clearly, therefore, it lightens any frame which includes it, but it also
    weakens in. But the dimpling effect of all those tiny holes causes an
    aero improvement.

    --
    bpo gallery at http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/mvw1/bpo

  7. jee-<< I asked Calfee about the type of carbon they use on their bikes. Their
    higher
    end bikes use Boron, a material that is used in military applications and thus
    cannot be distributed outside of the USA. >><BR><BR>

    Not quite. The main tubes on the Dragonfly are carbon/boron weave, a similar
    material used in the US military aircraft production of things like the B-2.

    Boron/carbon combos are common in other countries A/C developement, like in
    France. and the UK. Airbus rudders are a good example.

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

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