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  1. DigitalDave said:

    *
    Please look at the photo links provided. 😠 *

    I did.And i've been up and down moabmunifest.homsted.com looking at
    pictures.I was wondering because

    johnfoss said:

    *
    it forces you to concentrate more than riding on other surfaces. Just
    as riding on grass makes you work hard due to the extra friction*

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  2. DigitalDave said:

    *
    Please look at the photo links provided. 😠 *

    I did.And i've been up and down moabmunifest.homsted.com looking at
    pictures.I was wondering because

    johnfoss said:

    *
    it forces you to concentrate more than riding on other surfaces. Just
    as riding on grass makes you work hard due to the extra friction*

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  3. forrestunifreak said:

    *Hey,Im going to moab too!!(after all)

    Is the slickrock really that hard?or is it like riding in grass? *

    I grew up in Utah, and so I'll offer some info that may be of value.

    "Slickrock" is much more than just the name of a mountain bike trail.

    Slickrock is alot like riding on hard concrete that has been completely
    surfaced with a moderate to fine sandpaper, for thousands of square
    miles spread across countless sections of Utah/Colorado/New Mexico and
    Arizona. One of the largest, most accessable areas with this type of
    rock is the area surrounding Moab, Utah. (If you ever get bored with
    Moab, check out Fruita CO., fairly short commute, North-West of Moab
    over the state border, just outside of Grand Junction, CO.)

    The name "slickrock" dates back to when the area was first explored by
    the white man on horseback. The horses (with their metal horseshoes)
    would slip, slide, and sometimes fall on the sandstone rock surfaces,
    hence the name, slickrock. After the modern advent of vulcanized rubber
    tires, the name really doesn't make any sense anymore, but the geologic
    rock layer was already long since named "slickrock" in the geology and
    science books around the world, so it is here to stay.

    Instead of perfectly flat like a sidewalk, it has varied terrain ranging
    from finger sized dips, nips, long smooth sections, perfect steps
    sections, bumpy rolling areas, smooth rolling areas, sharp cleaves
    edges, then rolling hills like petrified sand dunes. (In fact, there is
    an area in the region that actually IS petrified sand dunes...) not all
    these sections at once, but scattered everywhere. Once in a while you
    will find a long (or short) low place that the wind has deposited deep,
    loose, orange/red silty-sand that will give even your brand new 3-inch
    Gazz a struggle to find traction. If you want a harder line, go to one
    side of the trial dots, if you want an easier line, you can often go to
    the other side of the dots. ---But not too far, there are cliffs
    EVERYWHERE. Switch back and forth, jump here, smooth ride over there.
    You can make your ride any type of challenge you choose. You will find
    traction to ride up and down hills that would usually slip if it was
    dirt. It's like magic.

    The slickrock trail was originally a motorcycle trail first, and
    switched to a mountain bike trail later. The newer motorcycle trail
    still shares parts of the mountain bike trail, as does a jeep trail,
    because sometime's there is only one way to get from point A to point B
    out there. When you see the place for yourself you will truely
    understand the phrase, "You can't get there from here." Nearly every
    off-trail ridge will end in a sheer cliff. Anyone who has ever hiked in
    southern Utah and tried to find a big shortcut can attest to that. 😉
    (as I raise my hand).

    If you've read this far, I'll just throw in a little bit more.

    Oh, yeah, take as much water as you can carry, even if you think it's
    too heavy. unless it's presently raining, the humidity in the area,
    (Desert!), hovers around 0%. You will loose moisture faster than you
    are used to. My first year I took 3 liters on the slickrock trail, had
    to ration alot, and still ran dry 1-2 miles from the end. I since
    started taking a 2nd 3 liter bottle and have finished all 6 liters.
    It's better to start with too much water and give someone who needs it,
    than not have enough when desert riding.

    Those of us here in Colorado will enjoy the low alltitude in Moab, but
    most others will have to deal with the 4000 foot elevation. You may
    fatigue faster, find yourself out of breath much sooner than you thought
    possible, and if you are dehydrated, you will get dizzy, make bad timing
    judgements and make mistakes while surrounded by cliffs. You'll find
    yourself taking a couple more breaks than you normally would back home.
    Not to make the place sound dangerous, it really not if you are careful.
    Just drink enough water so you are peeing clear, or nearly clear, and
    take and eat food on the trail and pack a few quick energy suger
    items.

    gee, this post is getting long and starting to meander, so that's all
    for now.

    Ed Hansen

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  4. Ed's advice is great, but he didn't mention one thing:

    Sunscreen. Wear plenty of it. Last year, on both trail rides I forgot to
    sunscreen the back of my leg, where there was the empty patch from the
    KH pad. It wasn't a very nice burn to have. I seem to remember Kris and
    Ed making the same mistake.

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  5. There's a picture in the 1st gallery, near the 15th page, of your
    sunburns 😄

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  6. DigitalDave said:

    *There's a picture in the 1st gallery, near the 15th page, of your
    sunburns 😄 *

    Yeah. It's also in my gallery. I forgot to mention that. BTW, it's p. 29
    😄

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  7. gerblefranklin said:

    *Last year, on both trail rides I forgot to sunscreen the back of my
    leg, where there was the empty patch from the KH pad. It wasn't a very
    nice burn to have. I seem to remember Kris and Ed making the same
    mistake. *


    Cool thing about Smugmug--you can link directly to a picture!
    http://unicycling.smugmug.com/gallery/112398/7

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  8. Ed Hansen said:

    *Slickrock is alot like riding on hard concrete, but instead of
    perfectly flat like a sidewalk, it has varied terrain ranging from
    finger sized dips, nips, long smooth sections, perfect steps sections,
    bumpy rolling areas, smooth rolling areas, sharp cleaves edges, then
    rolling hills like petrified sand dunes.

    Oh, yeah, take as much water as you can carry, even if you think it's
    too heavy. *

    Like Ed says, it's a lot like riding on concrete...except that it's the
    world's worst paving job.

    On hydration, a couple other tips. In addition to the water in your
    hydration pack's bladder, make sure at least one of the extra liters you
    carry inside your pack is Gatorade instead of water. You want
    electrolyte replacement out there. Salt tablets aren't a bad idea
    either. For a big ride like Slickrock, I'll chug a liter of Gatorade
    before hitting the trail, then carry a full water bladder plus an extra
    liter or two of gatorade plus an extra liter of water.

    It weighs a ton, but that problem quickly corrects itself as you keep on
    drinking.

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  9. Man, I'm so excited... NEED MUNI! NEED MONEY!

    this summer's going to RULE.

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    "Unicycling is more about the center of concentration than the center of
    balance."

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  10. Yah Moab Will Be Great Along With This Summer If Kentucky Is Moved To
    After The NAUCC It Will Be So Great I Cant Find A Word For
    It.........................Flabbergastic😕 😕

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  11. gerblefranklin said:

    *Sunscreen. Wear plenty of it.*


    I totally forgot about sunscreen on the first day and it sucked the
    rest of the weekend, I was totally out if it in 2004 because of this.
    You definitely want sunscreen in moab. 😉

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  12. Hey Ed I Got A Question. Do They Allow Uni's In The Denver Skate Park?
    My Team And I On Our Way To Moab Will Be Staying The Night In Denver And
    We Wanted To Get Some Video Of Local Spots In Denver And Thought The
    Skate Park Would Be Awesome Video. If They Do Allow Uni's Do You Know
    The Price To Get Into The Skate Park Any Help On This Would Be Greatly
    Appreciated.🙂

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  13. Try .... Google.com

    This says it's 'free' (http://www.denver.org/media/prDetail.asp?ID=34)

    'This' (http://www.denverskatepark.com/) is thier website.

    No Ph# thou ...

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  14. I have seen that skatepark before and its huge. I believe there where
    some BMX bikes in the skater part but i'm not sure. I do know they have
    a separate section for bikes though😄 . There prolly a number you could
    call to find out though.....

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  15. Does anyone with experience riding a unicycle in Moab recomend
    installing brakes?

    I have ridden the Slick-Rock trial on my mountain bike a few years back
    and recall that some of the terrain is pretty steep. So far I have not
    ridden my unicycle on a slope approaching what can be found in Moab,
    and was considering installing brakes.

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  16. Yes, you would definitely get some use out of your brakes in Moab.
    Though the hills on the Slickrock Trail can be pretty steep, most of
    them aren't that long. I still get by without brakes, but they would
    probably be fun to play with on a super-grippy surface like the
    slickrock. You'll be able to ride down steeper stuff than probably any
    other surface!

    Someday I will have brakes, but until then I'm happy to not be lugging
    them around the rest of the time...

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  17. I don't think a brake is necessary for the main Slickrock Trail. There
    are a lot of steep sections, but they're all fairly short and manageable
    by leg power alone. There are also just as many steep uphills as
    downhills, and the extra weight will drag on you over the course of the
    ride.

    A brake would probably make some of the crazy extra lines more rideable.

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  18. tholub said:

    *There are a lot of steep sections, but they're all fairly short and
    manageable by leg power alone. A brake would probably make some of the
    crazy extra lines more rideable. *

    I don't have good knees anymore, and I found my brake super-helpful last
    year. To tholub's first point, you can have good leg strength, but if
    you have bad knees you feel it a lot more on the downhills. My biggest
    problem on downhills w/ no brake isn't strength...it's that the sharp
    pain basically causes your brain to override the instructions to the
    muscles, making the strength of little use. And to his second point, I
    totally agree. But for me, the brake makes some of the non-crazy lines
    ridable too.

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  19. You are suce an amazing rider. By your skills, I understand how you were
    able to beat Kris Holm at Toquegames 2004.

    Quebec !!

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  20. sorry i tought i was in the ryan atkins thread.

    sorryyyy !!

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