My First Post-Op Appt

i saw a special on discovery health channel that says the full body
lift is for younger patients as its veryyyyy invasive and pretty hard
on the body. some of the oldest patients they said were in their late
20s and in fantastic physical shape, good hearts, no other
complications or problems. while money bought you a new lease on life,
it might not buy you everything. however, its always better to have it
than not to, right?

sorry if you posted this the other day. i am used to using agent
newsreader, and this google thing makes life hard. even though i check
threads it still says there are new messages, etc... i havent had time
to play with it, so sorry about that.

i guess im stuck. i'm an artist and soon to be art teacher, my husband
is still in school and probably going into teaching as well. i highly
doubt ill ever have that kind of money to fix the skin thing. let me
know how bad it gets for you. i seem to be deflating. my friend is
only 1 size smaller than me and she looks great. i just look like
somebody let the air out of the tire around my stomach. i guess itll
never change. anyway, good luck to you.

i have used their milia treatment for milia seed on my eye brown area
and below cheek. after three applications, i noticed a reduction in the
milia size, quite impressed as i thought only laser surgery can solve
my problem.
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i keep seeing reviews and raves about this
http://www.naturalisproducts.com and http://www.organiconline.com.sg .
many people are discussing in beauty forums and magazines have positive
reviews on this . but this thing ain't new, its been around for many
years! anyone tried can feedback to me on exactly how good it is?

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can anyone help me please, am looking for the local distributor or any
shop selling the naturalis range of skin and body care products, from
this company http://www.naturalisproducts.com . looking for this
urgently. for those who have not come across it, its some foodbased
anti-aging products. i googled for this and received result showing its
available at http://www.organiconline.com.sg. i need this
urgently but shipping from singapore will take some time, if anyone is
distributing this please contact me at [email hidden]
urgently. i have a group of us looking to buy this. thanks!

"tia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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i guess im stuck. i'm an artist and soon to be art teacher, my husband
is still in school and probably going into teaching as well. i highly
doubt ill ever have that kind of money to fix the skin thing. let me
know how bad it gets for you. i seem to be deflating. my friend is
only 1 size smaller than me and she looks great. i just look like
somebody let the air out of the tire around my stomach. i guess itll
never change.

I saw somewhere that you don't know if you're going to be left with a spare
skin problem until you'd been maintaining for a year - because it can take
that long for the skin to shrink as much as it's going to. So there's still
hope : )

Nicky.

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Anyone who is 20 is going to get better results because of the age of
their skin. My sister in law is getting ready to have a full body lift,
lipo, breast lift etc. it takes 8 hours and she is 52 and a wonderful
candidate.
Laureen

yep. Any respectable surgeon will not do surgery on fresh weight loss.
Your inner fat needs time to adjust too. Also it is a good idea to wait
a year regarding trauma to the body etc.

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Quoted message said:

I saw somewhere that you don't know if you're going to be left with a

spare
skin problem until you'd been maintaining for a year - because it can
take
that long for the skin to shrink as much as it's going to. So there's
still
hope : )

woot! there is still hope then. not like it matters lol... saving up
the 20 grand for surgery isnt going to happen over night. although,
even if i had it, i wonder if i would... hm... food for thought.

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i have used their milia treatment for milia seed on my eye brown area
and below cheek. after three applications, i noticed a reduction in the
milia size, quite impressed as i thought only laser surgery can solve
my problem.

um, what exactly is milia?

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Well like I posted the other day. The surgeon says if you have stretch
marks you have to hae a tummy tuck. if you dont have stretch marks you
dont. I have only a few tiny ones so I dont know what will become of
me. If it poses a problem then I will get it taken care of. There is a
plastic surgeon here in the PNW who does a full body lift for about
21,000.00

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Is that a typo? You mean $21,000 for the surgery? That's 1/3 the price of
a new 3 bedroom home where I live. Lets hope you wont need this surgery.
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Age 60. Height 5'6"
Starting date: 1/8/05
171/ 165 / 140 lb
Starting date LC 7/01 at 207lbs
Stopped losing on LC 11/01 at 165lbs
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i wasnt awawre of a free nntp server out there, especially since the company
i worked for sold accounts for it. i am using outlook express now, sadly.
i prefer others, especially some of the good ones fedora (linux platforms)
has, so im very clumsy with it. ill check it out tho -- thank you. right
now im using the nntp server from the isp im currently with, and ill let you
know getting their settings was a pain since most people i guess dont use
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Wysong
Age 60. Height 5'6"
Starting date: 1/8/05
171/ 165 / 140 lb
Starting date LC 7/01 at 207lbs
Stopped losing on LC 11/01 at 165lbs
==========================================
[censored] - I forgot to get my official stamp of approval and sign the
little document promising only to have thoughts that conform to the
official ASDLC guidelines.
I hate it when that happens. (credit Sophie)
~~<~~<~~{@ ~~<~~<~~{@ ~~<~~<~~{@

oh thats a reasonable price. i watch a lot of discovery heath channel, and
they have shows about it quoting much higher prices than that.

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Well like I posted the other day. The surgeon says if you have stretch
marks you have to hae a tummy tuck. if you dont have stretch marks you
dont. I have only a few tiny ones so I dont know what will become of
me. If it poses a problem then I will get it taken care of. There is a
plastic surgeon here in the PNW who does a full body lift for about
21,000.00

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Is that a typo? You mean $21,000 for the surgery? That's 1/3 the price
of
a new 3 bedroom home where I live. Lets hope you wont need this surgery.
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Wysong
Age 60. Height 5'6"
Starting date: 1/8/05
171/ 165 / 140 lb
Starting date LC 7/01 at 207lbs
Stopped losing on LC 11/01 at 165lbs
==========================================
[censored] - I forgot to get my official stamp of approval and sign the
little document promising only to have thoughts that conform to the
official ASDLC guidelines.
I hate it when that happens. (credit Sophie)
~~<~~<~~{@ ~~<~~<~~{@ ~~<~~<~~{@

milia are oilseeds , white little bumps around eye area or any other
part of face that are hard and looks ugly, see
http://www.organiconline.com.sg/milia.htm .

tia said:

i wasnt awawre of a free nntp server out there, especially since the company
i worked for sold accounts for it. i am using outlook express now, sadly.
i prefer others, especially some of the good ones fedora (linux platforms)
has, so im very clumsy with it. ill check it out tho -- thank you. right
now im using the nntp server from the isp im currently with, and ill let you
know getting their settings was a pain since most people i guess dont use
news!!!!

I use teranews. $3.95 one time setup fee....50 meg cap a day, which I
would never reach cause I don't go to the music/picture groups.

tia said:

i wasnt awawre of a free nntp server out there, especially since the company
i worked for sold accounts for it. i am using outlook express now, sadly.
i prefer others, especially some of the good ones fedora (linux platforms)
has, so im very clumsy with it. ill check it out tho -- thank you. right
now im using the nntp server from the isp im currently with, and ill let you
know getting their settings was a pain since most people i guess dont use
news!!!!

I use teranews. $3.95 one time setup fee....50 meg cap a day, which I
would never reach cause I don't go to the music/picture groups.

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|| i wasnt awawre of a free nntp server out there, especially since the
|| company i worked for sold accounts for it. i am using outlook
|| express now, sadly. i prefer others, especially some of the good
|| ones fedora (linux platforms) has, so im very clumsy with it. ill
|| check it out tho -- thank you. right now im using the nntp server
|| from the isp im currently with, and ill let you know getting their
|| settings was a pain since most people i guess dont use news!!!!
||

new.individual.net is indeed a free new server; many of us use it (I just
got a new cable isp so I'm trying out theirs for now). The service is based
at a German University and the service is excellent; simply e-mail them your
request for access to the news server news.individual.net.
The email address is [email hidden]. Along with a userid and password,
they will send you easy instructions for setting up your Outlook Express
program to acess the newsgroups.

Btw, I hear a lot of people complaina bout OE as a news reader; I'm not sure
why. I love it. I think many people just don't know how to use all its
capabilities.

Peter

sorry thats a 404.... check your link and try again 🙁

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milia are oilseeds , white little bumps around eye area or any other
part of face that are hard and looks ugly, see
http://www.organiconline.com.sg/milia.htm .

tia said:

i saw a special on discovery health channel that says the full body
lift is for younger patients as its veryyyyy invasive and pretty hard
on the body. some of the oldest patients they said were in their late
20s and in fantastic physical shape, good hearts, no other
complications or problems. while money bought you a new lease on life,
it might not buy you everything. however, its always better to have it
than not to, right?

Don't know about that, but I've seen some pictures of people who appeared
to be well up in years who looked pretty amazing after a lift.

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i guess im stuck. i'm an artist and soon to be art teacher, my husband
is still in school and probably going into teaching as well. i highly
doubt ill ever have that kind of money to fix the skin thing. let me
know how bad it gets for you. i seem to be deflating. my friend is
only 1 size smaller than me and she looks great. i just look like
somebody let the air out of the tire around my stomach. i guess itll
never change. anyway, good luck to you.

It really depends. I lost 60 lbs through lowcarbing. For a while, I had
loose skin in some places but eventually it caught up with itself, even in
place where I had stretch marks. I have subsequently had lipo and a TT,
but not because of loose skin. Some of the skin on my inner thighs is
retracting a bit slowly, but it's clearly getting better over time.

FWMOIW, I think the stretch mark test isn't always a good indicator. My
experience has been that I had good retraction in places where I had
stretch marks and less good in places I didn't.

Martha

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thanks, ill continue to have hope now and just give it some more time

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"Martha Gallagher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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tia said:

i saw a special on discovery health channel that says the full body
lift is for younger patients as its veryyyyy invasive and pretty hard
on the body. some of the oldest patients they said were in their late
20s and in fantastic physical shape, good hearts, no other
complications or problems. while money bought you a new lease on life,
it might not buy you everything. however, its always better to have it
than not to, right?

Don't know about that, but I've seen some pictures of people who appeared
to be well up in years who looked pretty amazing after a lift.

Quoted message said:

i guess im stuck. i'm an artist and soon to be art teacher, my husband
is still in school and probably going into teaching as well. i highly
doubt ill ever have that kind of money to fix the skin thing. let me
know how bad it gets for you. i seem to be deflating. my friend is
only 1 size smaller than me and she looks great. i just look like
somebody let the air out of the tire around my stomach. i guess itll
never change. anyway, good luck to you.

It really depends. I lost 60 lbs through lowcarbing. For a while, I had
loose skin in some places but eventually it caught up with itself, even in
place where I had stretch marks. I have subsequently had lipo and a TT,
but not because of loose skin. Some of the skin on my inner thighs is
retracting a bit slowly, but it's clearly getting better over time.

FWMOIW, I think the stretch mark test isn't always a good indicator. My
experience has been that I had good retraction in places where I had
stretch marks and less good in places I didn't.

Martha

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