low carb/ low fat

Well, I live low carb low fat low cal. Try that one lol!!!!! I mix my
lean meats with veggies like........... turkey breast on salad, kim
chee cabbage and home canned albacore tuna with a splash of soy sauce
on it, chicken breasts stir fried in cabbage with a splash of soy
sauce, ginger etc, I eat meat( like tuna, canned chicken breast, fish
and miracle whip ( i dont tolerate mayo of any kind and use a small
amount of Miracle whip) on one rye cracker, I eat sliced smoked tofu, I
make an egg white omelette with a pinch of cheddar and smoked salmon,
cottage cheese, the meat and miracle whip mixture in a half rib of
romaine heart. Anything sound good 2 you??
Laureen
410/311/180
yeah! 99 pounds gone in 15 weeks!!!!!!

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John and Kathy said:

Okay, today I am trying to keep both fat and carbs down. I can't

seem to be

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filled up and I feel physically weak! I try to keep my carbs between

20-25

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a day and fat, well just as low as possible. Up to this point (day

11) I

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have lost only 5 lbs. Any suggestions?

Kathy

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John and Kathy said:

Okay, today I am trying to keep both fat and carbs down. I can't seem to be
filled up and I feel physically weak! I try to keep my carbs between 20-25
a day and fat, well just as low as possible. Up to this point (day 11) I
have lost only 5 lbs. Any suggestions?

Kathy

Yeah, eat some fat unless there's some important medical reason you can't.

Susan

John and Kathy <[email hidden]> wrote:
:> Okay, today I am trying to keep both fat and carbs down. I can't
:> seem to be filled up and I feel physically weak!

Why are you doing this? Are you trying to fail at this?

I try to keep my
:> carbs between 20-25 a day and fat, well just as low as possible. Up
:> to this point (day 11) I have lost only 5 lbs. Any suggestions?

You're still on induction, right? Then just control the carbs and let the
process do it's thing. Later, if need be, you can limit calories....

:>
:> Kathy

Quoting John and Kathy:

Quoted message said:

Okay, today I am trying to keep both fat and carbs down. I can't seem to be
filled up and I feel physically weak! I try to keep my carbs between 20-25
a day and fat, well just as low as possible.

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Up to this point (day 11) I have lost only 5 lbs.

Only? How much were you expecting to lose per day?

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Any suggestions?

What percentage of your diet is fat?
How many calories are you eating per day?
How much do you weigh (or how overweight are you)?

Provide that information, and I'll be able to make suggestions.

Did you decide to do this on your own, or were you listening to someone that
doesn't have your best interest at heart?

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"John and Kathy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Okay, today I am trying to keep both fat and carbs down. I can't seem to
be filled up and I feel physically weak! I try to keep my carbs between
20-25 a day and fat, well just as low as possible. Up to this point (day
11) I have lost only 5 lbs. Any suggestions?

Kathy

Low carb/low fat is DANGEROUS! Actually, low fat /ANYTHING is
dangerous. You should never eat low fat. High fat /low carb is the
healthy way to eat. Up your fat intake to at least 50% and eat lots of
healthy animal fats and virgin coconut oil. Saturated fats are you and
your hearts best friend!

John and Kathy said:

Okay, today I am trying to keep both fat and carbs down. I can't

seem to be

Quoted message said:

filled up and I feel physically weak! I try to keep my carbs between

20-25

Quoted message said:

a day and fat, well just as low as possible. Up to this point (day

11) I

Quoted message said:

have lost only 5 lbs. Any suggestions?

Kathy

"John and Kathy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:uyQie.745$6d.385@trnddc07...

Quoted message said:

Okay, today I am trying to keep both fat and carbs down. I can't seem to

be

Quoted message said:

filled up and I feel physically weak! I try to keep my carbs between

20-25

Quoted message said:

a day and fat, well just as low as possible. Up to this point (day 11) I
have lost only 5 lbs. Any suggestions?

I'm confused as to why you're doing that to yourself? One of the beautiful
things about eating low carb is losing weight (rapidly at first for many!)
while eating fat. And fat keeps you satisfied, keeps your energy levels up,
keeps you feeling full - so you don't feel as bad as you're feeling, which
causes many people to give up. It's hard to get past that "fat makes you
fat" mentality, I know...is that why you are limiting yourself so strictly?
You need to eat fat for your body to burn fat...that in itself might be why
you've "only" lost 5#?

I don't weigh myself - but in my first 6 weeks I have dropped 2 sizes and
had to buy new "unders"...AND I eat all the fat I want! Since I hear this
same thing from so many people new to LC, it makes me wonder why you're
torturing yourself? Heck, if I'd felt like you do, instead of full of
energy with weight dropping off almost daily (I have a considerable amount
to lose), I'd have given up long before day 11! 🙂

--
Sherry
360/?/195
LC since 4/4/05
My LC Journey - www.livejournal.com/users/ShrinkingSherry

In article <uyQie.745$6d.385@trnddc07>,

John and Kathy said:

Okay, today I am trying to keep both fat and carbs down. I can't seem to be
filled up and I feel physically weak! I try to keep my carbs between 20-25
a day and fat, well just as low as possible. Up to this point (day 11) I
have lost only 5 lbs. Any suggestions?

Kathy

Day 11 and 5 lbs.? ;-)
Sounds like you are doing fine to me.....

How low are you keeping your fat intake?
As long as you are VERY strict with the low/no carbs and do not eat any
starch or sugar (get all your carbs from fresh veggies) a little fat
does not matter.

Believe it or not, you CAN be physically harmed from not eating enough
fat! Your body needs a certain amount of Essential Fatty Acids as well
as the Essential Amino Acids you get from your protien.

Try having a small handful of your favorite nuts for breakfast.
Macadamia is probably the best choice but keep it to a 1/4 cut (or 1
oz.) serving.

There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate. ;-)

Hope this helps?

Oh, and be sure to drink enough WATER and take your vitamin supplements!
There is more than one reason to feel weak and dizzy, and low carbing
tends to dehydrate a lot of people! Dehydration will make you feel like
[censored]!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

Quinadal said:

Actually, low fat /ANYTHING is dangerous.

This, of course, is wrong (perhaps dangerously so). You *need* only
about 6g of EFAs per day. You *need* a minimum amount of protein per
day. You *need* vitamins and minerals. The rest of your diet can be
made up of pretty much any combination of protein, fat, or carbs, as
long as it doesn't lead to overeating.

There's no intrinsic reason why a low fat diet (say, 25% calories from
fat) would be dangerous, assuming you're not stupid about the rest of
your diet.

The point of LC is that high carb can be intrinsically dangerous, if
it causes insulin problems, which may lead to diabetes or obesity.
Reducing carbs necessarily increases protein and/or fat intake, but
that's more of a side effect than a main purpose.

Uh, no.
UNsaturated fats are your hearts best freind.
Fats from nuts, fish, Avocados and olive oil.....

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quinadal said:

Low carb/low fat is DANGEROUS! Actually, low fat /ANYTHING is
dangerous. You should never eat low fat. High fat /low carb is the
healthy way to eat. Up your fat intake to at least 50% and eat lots of
healthy animal fats and virgin coconut oil. Saturated fats are you and
your hearts best friend!

John and Kathy said:

Okay, today I am trying to keep both fat and carbs down. I can't

seem to be

Quoted message said:

filled up and I feel physically weak! I try to keep my carbs between

20-25

Quoted message said:

a day and fat, well just as low as possible. Up to this point (day

11) I

Quoted message said:

have lost only 5 lbs. Any suggestions?

Kathy

--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

Uh, no.
Saturated fats protect the heart, the cells and the brain. Unsaturated
fats go rancid and form free radicals in the body. Unsaturated fats
are not a natural part of human diet, saturated fats are. Animal fats
are the best fats to improve health. The only healthy NON animal fats
are coconut, palm and small amounts of olive oil.
Without saturated fats and cholesterol, you're brain can't function
correctly and your heart will suffer.
50% fat intake is the MINIMUM you should have, anything less is not
healthy. Healthy cultures that have no diabetes, cardiac problems, or
obesity and very little cancer eat FAR more than 50% fat, mostly from
animal sources.

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

Uh, no.
UNsaturated fats are your hearts best freind.
Fats from nuts, fish, Avocados and olive oil.....

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quinadal said:

Low carb/low fat is DANGEROUS! Actually, low fat /ANYTHING is
dangerous. You should never eat low fat. High fat /low carb is

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

healthy way to eat. Up your fat intake to at least 50% and eat

lots of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

healthy animal fats and virgin coconut oil. Saturated fats are you

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

your hearts best friend!

John and Kathy said:

Okay, today I am trying to keep both fat and carbs down. I can't

seem to be

Quoted message said:

filled up and I feel physically weak! I try to keep my carbs

between

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

20-25

Quoted message said:

a day and fat, well just as low as possible. Up to this point

(day

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

11) I

Quoted message said:

have lost only 5 lbs. Any suggestions?

Kathy

--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack

Nicholson

Quoting Quinadal:

Quoted message said:

Low carb/low fat is DANGEROUS! Actually, low fat /ANYTHING is
dangerous. You should never eat low fat.

When one makes absolutist statements, one generally ends up being
absolutely wrong.

or:

No, low carb/low fat is not always DANGEROUS! <---- in scare caps
just for you.

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High fat /low carb is the healthy way to eat.

For some people.

Quoted message said:

Up your fat intake to at least 50% and eat lots of
healthy animal fats and virgin coconut oil. Saturated fats are you and
your hearts best friend!

You have saturated and unsaturated mixed up.

No, he's right, your view is the old-fashioned one.

In news:[email hidden],
Suze <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> stated
| Quoting Quinadal:
|| Low carb/low fat is DANGEROUS! Actually, low fat /ANYTHING is
|| dangerous. You should never eat low fat.
|
| When one makes absolutist statements, one generally ends up being
| absolutely wrong.
|
| or:
|
| No, low carb/low fat is not always DANGEROUS! <---- in scare caps
| just for you.
|
|| High fat /low carb is the healthy way to eat.
|
| For some people.
|
|| Up your fat intake to at least 50% and eat lots of
|| healthy animal fats and virgin coconut oil. Saturated fats are you
|| and your hearts best friend!
|
| You have saturated and unsaturated mixed up.

No, YOU do.
Saturated fats=good
Unsaturated fats= bad (except for olive oil)
Is that simple enough for you?

Suze said:

Quoted message said:

Up your fat intake to at least 50% and eat lots of
healthy animal fats and virgin coconut oil. Saturated fats are you

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

your hearts best friend!

You have saturated and unsaturated mixed up.

DJ Delorie <[email hidden]> wrote:
:> Reducing carbs necessarily increases protein and/or fat intake, but
:> that's more of a side effect than a main purpose.

Not "necessarily".

low carb + low fat = failure

Try reading an LC diet book, like DANDR.

"John and Kathy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Okay, today I am trying to keep both fat and carbs down. I can't seem to

be

Quoted message said:

filled up and I feel physically weak! I try to keep my carbs between

20-25

Quoted message said:

a day and fat, well just as low as possible. Up to this point (day 11) I
have lost only 5 lbs. Any suggestions?

Kathy

Quoting FOB:

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No, he's right,

Now, that's convincing!

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your view is the old-fashioned one.

Which view would you be referring to?

And be specific this time.

Cubit said:

low carb + low fat = failure

No, low carb + low fat = PSMF (if you do it right)

Quoting Quinadal:

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No, YOU do.

Saturated fats=good

Some people are better off limiting them to an extent.

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Unsaturated fats= bad (except for olive oil)

I guess I shouldn't have had that sesame oil on my salad today.
Or taken those fish oil capsules this morning.

Oh no...

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Is that simple enough for you?

Your absolutist rants are so simplistic they end up being effectively
incorrect.