Unitrial vs. Cyclotrial (Unis vs. Bikes)

Its just called "bike trials".

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I m sorry for my english 🙂

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I actually think it might be harder to learn bike trials, they have to
get two wheels off the ground at a time. I might be wrong though.😄

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Bike trials is definately a lot harder.

I think it's easy to ride a bike, hard to do anything truly cool on one
(BMX, Moutainbiking, Trials, etc.) However, it's hard to learn to ride
a uni, but easier to get good at MUni, trials, etc.

This is just my experience, I bet other people will disagree.

As for abilities, unis are generally better than bikes at trials. we can
hop higher, be more precise etc. etc. It's also easier to do these
things. (I'm sure some biketrialsers are more precise and can hop higher
than me, but not with the same amount of practice and time riding.

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Bikes can hop higher and longer.

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Oops.

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Fuego said:

*As for abilities, unis are generally better than bikes at trials. we
can hop higher, be more precise etc. etc.*

My experience with bike trials is only from watching competitions with
top-ranked riders. They are definitely better than us. Certainly some of
this is due to bike trials being a more developed sport, with more
participants.

But the bikes can also jump higher. Even though the bikes weigh more,
they can be levered to allow them to get higher off the ground than I've
seen anyone get with a uni. Plus having two wheels has some advantages
the unicyclists must do without.

I guess to point out the main difference between uni and bike trials, it
would be coold to build a course that bikes can't fit on, but unicycles
can hop right through...

Back to the original questions. What is more difficult to learn? I have
no idea. My guess would be that both are pretty difficult, and the
unicycle side is cheaper.

Who deserves bigger respect? Interesting question. Do you automatically
respect a person because of an activity they do? You should respect the
person for who they are, not what they do.

Sometimes what you do comes with a name or title that says you have
already proven yourself. For example, you might be an Eagle Scout, a
Navy SEAL, a certified level 10 unicyclist, or a world champion bike
trials rider. All of those are worthy of automatic respect.

If a rider of a bike or a uni does stuff I cannot do, they get respect
from me for that.

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Me n pebbles just met a group of trials bikers in glasgow the other
week. They were all really good, but I beat them in a
"hopping-up-then-down-big-stairs" race!

Watching them do gaps and stuff all on the back wheel I was thinking
"how can they move the bike so far?" but I'm sure they were thinking
similar stuff about us.

One of them could uni, not very well but he could hop in place quite
high. Pebbles can hop on the back wheel of a bike, I tried it and was
hopeless. There's more to think about when on a bike.

We were about the same ability at trials-ing as them, except for one of
them who was really really amazing. He jumped straight up onto a wall
that was 4ft high, landing on just his back wheel !!!

I reckon if you are just as good on a uni as you are on a bike, then the
uni will be easier.

Also it looks cooler!

T.

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Unicycles are definitly harder to learn, just about anyone knows how to
ride a bike. But for me bikes are MUCH harder to do stuff on. I will
ride tons of things on my uni that I would be way to chinken to do on my
bike. But thats just me. (and some majority of unuicyclists)

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forrestunifreak said:

*Unicycles are definitly harder to learn, just about anyone knows how
to ride a bike. But for me bikes are MUCH harder to do stuff on. I
will ride tons of things on my uni that I would be way to chinken to
do on my bike. But thats just me. (and some majority of unuicyclists)
*

This was basically my point.

I didn't know they could hop higher, though.

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They can hop higher because they can hop with their front wheel already
elevated, use it to "grab" the next surface, then use leverage to lift
the rest of their bike up.

..its way cool to see.

Fuego said:

*This was basically my point.

I didn't know they could hop higher, though. *

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johnfoss said:

*My experience with bike trials is only from watching competitions
with top-ranked riders. They are definitely better than us. *

I disagree. Per capita, unicycle riders vs. bike riders, the unicyclists
are far better at trials. Can bikes jump higher and go faster? Sure.
But, I would pit the average unicyclist against the average mountain
biker/trial rider/bmx any day. Ultimately, it depends on the terrain.

johnfoss said:

You should respect the person for who they are, not what they do. [/B]

You and I disagree. You followed this statement citing respect due to
people for what the DO. Respecting people for who they are (even family)
isn't wise.

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e39m5 said:

*Go to www.stupidvideos.com and search bike hop*

That looks like a cool site. But there was nothing stupid in that
video! I was waiting for the guy to bail with his feet stuck to the
pedals or something, but he completed his skillful ride with no
problems. 🙁

I highly doubt that guy was strapped or clipped into his pedals.

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ChangingLINKS.com said:

*Per capita, unicycle riders vs. bike riders, the unicyclists are far
better at trials. Can bikes jump higher and go faster? Sure. But, I
would pit the average unicyclist against the average mountain
biker/trial rider/bmx any day.*

So you're saying you believe the average trials unicyclist is better at
trials than the average bike trials person? To prove this out, wewould
need to pit one against the other on the same course. My observations
above were based on watching competitors on the trials lines at the Sea
Otter Classic a few years back; courses that I don't think any of us
could make it through. "Us" included Kris Holm one of those years.
Though we hopped around on the courses after the competition was over,
there were jumps and gaps none of us were able to do but the majority of
bike guys seemed to do them relatively easily.

Anyway, to some degree we're comparing apples and oranges. Top riders at
either sport are great to watch.

Quoted message said:

*You followed this statement citing respect due to people for what the
DO. Respecting people for who they are (even family) isn't wise. *

Yes, my example wasn't a good one to back up what I said above it. The
examples I gave were of people who had been tested to prove a very high
level of competency in their disciplines. This makes them worthy of
respect at those disciplines, though the individuals may be [censored]
otherwise.

To respect a person for who they are was meant to be about the quality
of person they are, *not* association/family/race or other similar
assumed status. A person worthy of respect is one who can also respect
others, is trustworthy, humble, etc.

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I started with bmx/freestyle then went to moutainbike trials and now im
into muni and uni trials.

Am I the only one who thinks trials on bikes is easier. I was no pro but
I could easily make my way up/down a picnic table or any other similar
object (with regular pedals)... Maybe it's because i've been on the uni
less than 6 months but I still can only make it up a 6" curb.

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'The Obie' or whatever his name is rides both uni and bike trials. He
rides a mod trials bike, the same wheel size as the trials wheels we
ride.

I can't really say I ride bike trials, but I [censored] around on my friends
stock trials bike (26" wheel size) and can side hop higher on his bike,
and just about any bike than I can on my uni.

I like both. I've considered buying a mod trials bike, but I don't have
enough time to ride a trials bike, uni, and coker. 🙁

As far as skill goes, I have a more difficult time with a trials bike.
I am more precise on a uni, and can plant my wheel wherever I want, but
a developed trials biker can do the same, as well as much bigger moves.
Elite trials bikers can get up some things that a uni will never be able
to make it up. There, I said it. Trials biking is also much more
developed than unicycling is. Luckily we have Kris Holm on the norco
factory team, which has some amazing riders.. Ryan Leech is one that
comes to mind. Just got his Manifesto DVD in a couple weeks ago.
Amazing stuff.

When it gets to the elite level, you cannot make a judgement on what
takes more skill. The elite riders of both are pushing the limits of
the sport and with competition, the sport will evolve. Kudos to the
people that are riding uni's and even bikes that are taking trials to
the next level. 😄

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Fuego said:

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I think it's easy to ride a bike, hard to do anything truly cool on
one (BMX, Moutainbiking, Trials, etc.) However, it's hard to learn to
ride a uni, but easier to get good at MUni, trials, etc.

*

forrestunifreak said:

*Unicycles are definitly harder to learn, just about anyone knows how
to ride a bike. *

I wonder if this is true. How many people remember how long it took them
to learn to ride a bike? You were probably six years old and highly
motivated because everyone you knew rode bikes. But how long did you
spend on training wheels or launching and riding or riding with someone
running behind you holding the seat? Not that many people are highly
motivated to learn to ride a unicycle and we know that only takes 10 or
20 hours for most.

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I think freestyle and trials stuff are probably a lot harder to learn on
a bike, because on a bike you have to be much more careful to avoid
serious injuries. Accidental falls off a unicycle usually leave you on
your feet, whereas falls off or with a bike often get you hurt.

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johnfoss said:

*So you're saying you believe the average trials unicyclist is better
at trials than the average bike trials person? To prove this out,
wewould need to pit one against the other on the same course.*

Yes. And, as I mentioned before, the outcome would depend on the course.
For example, I doubt that any trials biker could do the line Ryan Atkins
did (where there were 4 4x4's in a tight square and he climbed from one
to the next). More commonly, I think the average off-road unicyclist is
better at trials than the average cross-country mountain biker. Again,
it depends on terrain.

johnfoss wrote:*

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To respect a person for who they are was meant to be about the quality
of person they are, *not* association/family/race or other similar
assumed status.

A person worthy of respect is one who can also respect others, is
trustworthy, humble, etc. *

Still, you are describing how a person behaves.
In other words . . . what they DO.

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