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  1. There is a variety of things that can go wrong in a race and a variety
    of ways in which race arrangers can goof up: the leaders in the
    marathon race can be directed to the halfmarathon course (or vice
    versa), the bib pickup can run out of safety pins or the arrival of an
    unscheduled train can cause the barrier at a crossing to come down at
    an inopportune moment etc.

    In a recent HM in Germany a sponsor vehicle had wedged itself between
    the leading car and the runners, and when its driver missed a turn (and
    thereby a 930m section of the course) the entire field of 2800
    participants promptly followed suit and the race resulted in a spate of
    "PBs"!

    (The arrangers later apologized and offered a €4 deduction off the
    2006 entry fee.)

    Any other spectacular, absurd or merely amusing incidents or
    situations?

    Anders

  2. "anders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Any other spectacular, absurd or merely amusing incidents or
    situations?

    Humorous now but not at the time. I just finished a 32 mile leg of 70
    relay and lost the trail. A state marked trail went through commercial
    ski area and apparently the ski folks were doing some very recent
    construction/destruction and took down some of the trail signs. About 25
    of us wandered around for about 1/2 an hour searching for the trail.

    I didn't care about the time as much as it was 9 miles between aid
    stations and this was mile 8 and we were all very low or out of fluids.
    The humidity was 99.9% and no tree cover and the sun decided to come
    out. Considering the humidity I was damn glad I chose to do the relay
    rather than the whole thing this year.

    Many years back at a local 10k trail race( I now direct this race) we
    had set up a cardboard sign tacked to tree showing the direction to run
    at a multi-pathed intersection. Apparently we had some devilish bikers
    that thought it would be cute to point the sign in a different
    direction. We now use lime/flour in the dirt which is at least harder
    to erase/alter and likely don't carry spare white powder to make
    changes. It makes it harder to unmark the trail but I prefer the ounce
    of prevention.

    The entry fee is $2 to cover the flour, cups and some fluid. How many
    races can you find that are even under $10 much less $2?

    Anders

  3. "anders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    Any other spectacular, absurd or merely amusing incidents or
    situations?

    IIRC, in the Northeast NCAA regional cross-country meet in the early
    90s, the front pack of the race (a dozen plus runners) got going the wrong
    way and ended up losing almost a kilometer from the field. Many of them,
    including one of the national favorites Louis Quintana, I think missed out
    on the NCAA champs because of it. It happened at Franklin Park, Boston,
    which is a truly understandable place to get lost (it's a course with only 3
    short loops, and each time I raced there I had to memorize a new sequence of
    these loops).

    Dave

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    anders said:

    There is a variety of things that can go wrong in a race and a variety
    of ways in which race arrangers can goof up: the leaders in the
    marathon race can be directed to the halfmarathon course (or vice
    versa), the bib pickup can run out of safety pins or the arrival of an
    unscheduled train can cause the barrier at a crossing to come down at
    an inopportune moment etc.

    In a recent HM in Germany a sponsor vehicle had wedged itself between
    the leading car and the runners, and when its driver missed a turn (and
    thereby a 930m section of the course) the entire field of 2800
    participants promptly followed suit and the race resulted in a spate of
    "PBs"!

    (The arrangers later apologized and offered a €4 deduction off the
    2006 entry fee.)

    Any other spectacular, absurd or merely amusing incidents or
    situations?

    *Ironman Hawaii, 2004, a race marshall on a motorcylce hit a competitor
    and trashed his bike. The poor guy had to walk 6 miles carrying his
    bike, then run a marathon after that. I don't think he got a PB that day.

    *Some high school XC championship, one of the boy runners thought it
    would be funny to take down the course markings for the girls race. It
    wasn't funny.

    *Philadelphia Marathon, 1983, was supposed to have Gatorade every 3
    miles. There was none between miles 6 and 18. But I'm not bitter.

    *IIRC, the world triathlon championships in Australia a few years back
    produced amazing times because the run course was 8k instead of 10k.
    Usually they do a better job with that sort of thing at world
    championships.

    *2000 Olympics. The vault height for the women's gymnastics competition
    is set wrong. Oh, wait. Well, I guess they do have to run up to the
    thing.

    --Harold Buck

    "I used to rock and roll all night,
    and party every day.
    Then it was every other day. . . ."
    -Homer J. Simpson

  5. ha ha aun't it great. I did a couple ultra were i stay in back of pack
    and into mile 5 to 10 we al ways meet up and the100 plus people are
    allways mad........ha ha...they should of follow us....ha ha ha..
    of corse I never see them again.......

    in this group the leaders know.......ha ha .
    of again I never see them.......in person... ha ha ha......

  6. Wouldn't it be easier to list the things that AREN'T absurd about jogger
    hootenannies?

  7. "Harold Buck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    anders said:

    There is a variety of things that can go wrong in a race and a variety
    of ways in which race arrangers can goof up: the leaders in the
    marathon race can be directed to the halfmarathon course (or vice
    versa), the bib pickup can run out of safety pins or the arrival of an
    unscheduled train can cause the barrier at a crossing to come down at
    an inopportune moment etc.

    In a recent HM in Germany a sponsor vehicle had wedged itself between
    the leading car and the runners, and when its driver missed a turn (and
    thereby a 930m section of the course) the entire field of 2800
    participants promptly followed suit and the race resulted in a spate of
    "PBs"!

    (The arrangers later apologized and offered a ?4 deduction off the
    2006 entry fee.)

    Any other spectacular, absurd or merely amusing incidents or
    situations?

    *Ironman Hawaii, 2004, a race marshall on a motorcylce hit a competitor
    and trashed his bike. The poor guy had to walk 6 miles carrying his
    bike, then run a marathon after that. I don't think he got a PB that day.

    *Some high school XC championship, one of the boy runners thought it
    would be funny to take down the course markings for the girls race. It
    wasn't funny.

    *Philadelphia Marathon, 1983, was supposed to have Gatorade every 3
    miles. There was none between miles 6 and 18. But I'm not bitter.

    *IIRC, the world triathlon championships in Australia a few years back
    produced amazing times because the run course was 8k instead of 10k.
    Usually they do a better job with that sort of thing at world
    championships.

    *2000 Olympics. The vault height for the women's gymnastics competition
    is set wrong. Oh, wait. Well, I guess they do have to run up to the
    thing.

    --Harold Buck

    From the newswire:

    2005 Chicago Marathon: Race organizers screw up and lay out a 27.2 mile
    course. They admit the mistake and apologize, AFTER the race. No word on
    what this means for people trying to qualify for Boston.

    From my personal archives:

    2003 Pineman Triathlon: Organizers delay the start of the race almost an
    hour due to heavy fog. About 20 minutes after the race finally starts, a
    change in air temperature causes the low-lying clouds to suddeenly settle
    back onto the lake reducing visibility to less than 50 yards and obscuring
    the course markers. Many participants are left in the middle of the lake
    unsure which direction to swim. A quick-thinking ambulance driver turns on
    his siren to guide people back to shore. Most participants make a b-line
    toward the siren (understandably) cutting the course. Race organizers
    announce to all participants as they leave the water that the swim has been
    cancelled and their official race time will start at the T1 exit.
    Participants take their sweet time regrouping in T1. Organizer includes
    swim and T1 in the official results anyway. Unlike Harold, I AM bitter.

    2004 Deer Creek Triathlon: Race organizers post a volunteeer at a
    turn-around point along a dead end road. Volunteer blows the assignment and
    lets nearly the entire field pass the turnaround, continuing almost 3 miles
    before reaching the road's dead-end where participants finally turn around
    in a cul-de-sac. Total length of the Olympic Distance bike course ends up
    over 30 miles.

    2002 Boilerman Triahtlon: Run course crosses a railroad track - twice.
    Train arrives during the run leg causing the gates to go down and holding up
    competitors - twice.

  8. "Harold Buck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    anders said:

    There is a variety of things that can go wrong in a race and a variety
    of ways in which race arrangers can goof up: the leaders in the
    marathon race can be directed to the halfmarathon course (or vice
    versa), the bib pickup can run out of safety pins or the arrival of an
    unscheduled train can cause the barrier at a crossing to come down at
    an inopportune moment etc.

    In a recent HM in Germany a sponsor vehicle had wedged itself between
    the leading car and the runners, and when its driver missed a turn (and
    thereby a 930m section of the course) the entire field of 2800
    participants promptly followed suit and the race resulted in a spate of
    "PBs"!

    (The arrangers later apologized and offered a ?4 deduction off the
    2006 entry fee.)

    Any other spectacular, absurd or merely amusing incidents or
    situations?

    *Ironman Hawaii, 2004, a race marshall on a motorcylce hit a competitor
    and trashed his bike. The poor guy had to walk 6 miles carrying his
    bike, then run a marathon after that. I don't think he got a PB that day.

    *Some high school XC championship, one of the boy runners thought it
    would be funny to take down the course markings for the girls race. It
    wasn't funny.

    *Philadelphia Marathon, 1983, was supposed to have Gatorade every 3
    miles. There was none between miles 6 and 18. But I'm not bitter.

    *IIRC, the world triathlon championships in Australia a few years back
    produced amazing times because the run course was 8k instead of 10k.
    Usually they do a better job with that sort of thing at world
    championships.

    *2000 Olympics. The vault height for the women's gymnastics competition
    is set wrong. Oh, wait. Well, I guess they do have to run up to the
    thing.

    *1986 Steve Lynn Triathlon (1/2 IM Distance, Savannah) - Rainy bike course
    crosses train tracks at an acute angle three times. Several cyclists take
    ambulance rides. 1987, same course; 1988, race throws a carpet over the
    tracks, problem solved.

    *2003 Inaugural U.S. Half Marathon (Alpharetta, GA). Course is properly
    measured by TAC, but incorrectly executed by officials on race day. Entire
    field runs 15.3 miles. Race issued apologies/explanations.

    *19xx-to-200x - More races than I can count, run out of water and/or sports
    drink before the final quarter (BOP) of the field has completed the run
    course.

    rsquared

  9. In the original 1999 Pineman the swim visibility wasn't even to the
    first bouy at the start and immediately got worse so those on shore
    couldn't see more than ten feet into the water. The group I vectored
    off with hit a sandbar and while standing in 3 feet of water started
    singing the theme to Gilligan's Island out of frustration. They
    canceled the swim and reduced the bike from 112 to 56 miles because the
    fog made biking outside the park unsafe until around 11AM. Those who
    stayed for the marathon (about 220 out of the original 500) were
    further challenged with mislayed mile markers throughout the second
    half of the course.

  10. Harold Buck said:


    Quoted message said:

    Any other spectacular, absurd or merely amusing incidents or
    situations?

    Recently I was in a cycling road race; as the only female competitor in
    a predominantly elite/a grade field, I got dropped. Marshalls were
    posted, but when the rain came down in lap 12, they stopped directing
    traffic so they could put on their rain jackets. As a result I nearly
    got killed by a truck on the roundabout, then had to slam on the brakes
    and swerve around an elderly couple that wandered onto the course on
    their way to church.

    Ran a two-lap half marathon (combined with a marathon) where the water
    stations were topped up by a guy on a motorbike driving around the
    course and filling up fresh cups. It was unseasonably hot and they ran
    out by my lap 2. That one really sucked, it was my personal worst.

    Tam

  11. anders said:


    Any other spectacular, absurd or merely amusing incidents or
    situations?

    Anders

    Years ago (1986?) in a very popular (1,000 entrants) and fairly
    competitive race the lead car missed a turn in the first 100 yards and
    the first 50 or so followed. The rest of the field knew the course and
    made the turn. Then somehow the race organization stopped the race,
    backed up the entire field and restarted the race. It was kind of
    interesting when we were stopped, everybody was just milling around
    wondering what happened and what was going on.

    Andy

  12. Quoted message said:

    2005 Chicago Marathon: Race organizers screw up and lay out a 27.2 mile
    course. They admit the mistake and apologize, AFTER the race. No word on
    what this means for people trying to qualify for Boston.

    Note that that was the LAKESHORE Marathon, not the big Chicago
    Marathon in October.

    --
    Brian P. Baresch
    Fort Worth, Texas, USA
    Professional editing and proofreading

    If you're going through hell, keep going. --Winston Churchill

  13. Quoted message said:

    2002 Boilerman Triahtlon: Run course crosses a railroad track - twice.
    Train arrives during the run leg causing the gates to go down and holding up
    competitors - twice.

    This happened at the California International Marathon (once, not
    twice) a couple of years ago.

    --
    Brian P. Baresch
    Fort Worth, Texas, USA
    Professional editing and proofreading

    If you're going through hell, keep going. --Winston Churchill

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,

    John Hardt said:


    2003 Pineman Triathlon: Organizers delay the start of the race almost an
    hour due to heavy fog. About 20 minutes after the race finally starts, a
    change in air temperature causes the low-lying clouds to suddeenly settle
    back onto the lake reducing visibility to less than 50 yards and obscuring
    the course markers. Many participants are left in the middle of the lake
    unsure which direction to swim. A quick-thinking ambulance driver turns on
    his siren to guide people back to shore. Most participants make a b-line
    toward the siren (understandably) cutting the course. Race organizers
    announce to all participants as they leave the water that the swim has been
    cancelled and their official race time will start at the T1 exit.
    Participants take their sweet time regrouping in T1. Organizer includes
    swim and T1 in the official results anyway. Unlike Harold, I AM bitter.

    Actually, I was bitter, but not as bitter as I'd have been about your
    race. How the %$#@ can you count the swim results when no one swam the
    right course?!

    I've seen some of this sort of thing in United States Lifesaving
    Association events. One year at the regional tournament, they said that
    there would be two heats for the paddleboard race. Then, after the two
    heats, they announced that they weren't going to do a final and were
    just going to award the medals based on the times from the two heats. My
    friend was unchallenged in his heat and tried to save himself for the
    final, while the other heat was hotly contested and of course had faster
    times. Even disregarding the fact that you not only didn't get to race
    against your competitors--and didn't know you should be going all
    out--you can't do this kind of thing in ocean racing anyway, since
    people in different heats are affected differently by surf.

    Quoted message said:

    2004 Deer Creek Triathlon: Race organizers post a volunteeer at a
    turn-around point along a dead end road. Volunteer blows the assignment and
    lets nearly the entire field pass the turnaround, continuing almost 3 miles
    before reaching the road's dead-end where participants finally turn around
    in a cul-de-sac. Total length of the Olympic Distance bike course ends up
    over 30 miles.

    Some volunteers don't pay attention and should be shot.

    Quoted message said:

    2002 Boilerman Triahtlon: Run course crosses a railroad track - twice.
    Train arrives during the run leg causing the gates to go down and holding up
    competitors - twice.

    I've done races where this was a possibility, but it didn't actually
    happen. You wonder if there's some way to put a championship mat on
    either side of the tracks to adjust the times somehow.

    --Harold Buck

    "I used to rock and roll all night,
    and party every day.
    Then it was every other day. . . ."
    -Homer J. Simpson

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,

    BillX said:

    In the original 1999 Pineman the swim visibility wasn't even to the
    first bouy at the start and immediately got worse so those on shore
    couldn't see more than ten feet into the water. The group I vectored
    off with hit a sandbar and while standing in 3 feet of water started
    singing the theme to Gilligan's Island out of frustration. They
    canceled the swim and reduced the bike from 112 to 56 miles because the
    fog made biking outside the park unsafe until around 11AM. Those who
    stayed for the marathon (about 220 out of the original 500) were
    further challenged with mislayed mile markers throughout the second
    half of the course.

    And I had been planning to do that race this year before it was
    cancelled.

    Of course, most of these stories are mildly amusing, especially to
    people who didn't have to compete in them. One that is not amusing is
    the (Half?) Ironman Utah race which started despite heavy chop and wind
    and in which an athlete drowned. That's something they should always
    keep in mind when they're deciding whether to start a race in poor
    conditions.

    There were some accounts that they were holding the race and people
    jumped the gun and started the swim, so someone said "they're going, so
    you might as well fire the starting cannon," but I don't know if that's
    what really happened.

    --Harold Buck

    "I used to rock and roll all night,
    and party every day.
    Then it was every other day. . . ."
    -Homer J. Simpson

  16. The one and only DisneyLAND marathon in 1995, the front runners missed a
    turn and cut about a mile off the course. The race crew scurried around
    and added the distance back, worst effect was no one's splits were
    correct.

    anders said:

    There is a variety of things that can go wrong in a race and a variety
    of ways in which race arrangers can goof up: the leaders in the
    marathon race can be directed to the halfmarathon course (or vice
    versa), the bib pickup can run out of safety pins or the arrival of an
    unscheduled train can cause the barrier at a crossing to come down at
    an inopportune moment etc.

    In a recent HM in Germany a sponsor vehicle had wedged itself between
    the leading car and the runners, and when its driver missed a turn (and
    thereby a 930m section of the course) the entire field of 2800
    participants promptly followed suit and the race resulted in a spate of
    "PBs"!

    (The arrangers later apologized and offered a €4 deduction off the
    2006 entry fee.)

    Any other spectacular, absurd or merely amusing incidents or
    situations?

    Anders

  17. Bumper said:

    The one and only DisneyLAND marathon in 1995, the front runners missed a
    turn and cut about a mile off the course. The race crew scurried around
    and added the distance back, worst effect was no one's splits were
    correct.

    A couple of years ago, I ran a 5K in California where the
    front runners took a wrong turn. IIRC, my time was 17:40,
    the winner was 13:10 or something. The announcer, when he saw
    the first guy, said something along the lines of "what an
    incredible time..." I think he realized the problem soon enough.
    The distance was around 4.5K.

    jobs

  18. It seems to me I heard somewhere that Bumper wrote in article
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    The one and only DisneyLAND marathon in 1995, the front runners missed a
    turn and cut about a mile off the course. The race crew scurried around
    and added the distance back, worst effect was no one's splits were
    correct.

    I was about to mention that, but you got there first. :-) The whole
    day was a mess from that point on; the amazingly odd thing is that the
    screw-up came before the runners ever left the park, still close to the
    start. Inside the park I'd guess they were employees, not volunteers
    like farther along the course.

    Quoted message said:

    anders <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    There is a variety of things that can go wrong in a race and a variety
    of ways in which race arrangers can goof up: the leaders in the
    marathon race can be directed to the halfmarathon course (or vice
    versa), the bib pickup can run out of safety pins or the arrival of an
    unscheduled train can cause the barrier at a crossing to come down at
    an inopportune moment etc.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    In a recent HM in Germany a sponsor vehicle had wedged itself between
    the leading car and the runners, and when its driver missed a turn (and
    thereby a 930m section of the course) the entire field of 2800
    participants promptly followed suit and the race resulted in a spate of
    "PBs"!

    We had a train crossing the route on my one and only 8k, but I still got
    my PR for the distance.
    --
    Don Kirkman

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Don Kirkman said:


    We had a train crossing the route on my one and only 8k, but I still got
    my PR for the distance.

    That's kind of like how everyone running the Chicago Lakeshore Marathon
    set a PR for the distance, huh? :-)

    --Harold Buck

    "I used to rock and roll all night,
    and party every day.
    Then it was every other day. . . ."
    -Homer J. Simpson

  20. lol

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