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  1. "Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    The vitamin C foundation published early results for 800-1500% reduction


    in

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    plaque using ascorbic acid and lysine.
    Since it involves 'mega dose vitamin' supplements and Pauling's/Rath's
    research, I doubt the article will ever be published.
    Shame really....
    Anth

    If it was never published, how do you know about it?

    --
    "The emperor is naked!"
    "No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

    to email me
    Please remove "all your clothes"

    Doug

  2. Website with the results on.
    Anth

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    "Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    The vitamin C foundation published early results for 800-1500% reduction


    in

    Quoted message said:

    plaque using ascorbic acid and lysine.
    Since it involves 'mega dose vitamin' supplements and Pauling's/Rath's
    research, I doubt the article will ever be published.
    Shame really....
    Anth

    If it was never published, how do you know about it?

    --
    "The emperor is naked!"
    "No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

    to email me
    Please remove "all your clothes"

    Doug

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    "Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    The vitamin C foundation published early results for 800-1500% reduction


    in

    Quoted message said:

    plaque using ascorbic acid and lysine.
    Since it involves 'mega dose vitamin' supplements and Pauling's/Rath's
    research, I doubt the article will ever be published.
    Shame really....
    Anth

    If it was never published, how do you know about it?

    Perhaps Anth was referring to the research that Linus Pauling did that he
    personally tried to suppress. That must be what he's talking about, because,
    as you pointed out, Anth wouldn't be aware of it, if his allegations were
    actually true.

  4. (No I was referring to recent research that is 'going' to be published)
    Ant

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    "Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    The vitamin C foundation published early results for 800-1500%


    reduction

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in

    Quoted message said:

    plaque using ascorbic acid and lysine.
    Since it involves 'mega dose vitamin' supplements and Pauling's/Rath's
    research, I doubt the article will ever be published.
    Shame really....
    Anth

    If it was never published, how do you know about it?

    Perhaps Anth was referring to the research that Linus Pauling did that he
    personally tried to suppress. That must be what he's talking about,


    because,

    Quoted message said:

    as you pointed out, Anth wouldn't be aware of it, if his allegations were
    actually true.

  5. Quoted message said:

    (No I was referring to recent research that is 'going' to be published)
    Ant

    The beauty of the Internet is that anyone can publish their works for most of
    the world to read. Its pretty hard to suppress anything.

    Now, as for getting it published in a proper, peer-reviewed journal requires
    that the studies be performed with adequate controls. Bear in mind that the
    Vitamin C foundation has a vested interest in this research. That's always
    evil when we are talking about pharmaceuticals, but is somehow valiant when
    done in the context of vitamins.

    Vitamin C is freely available and anyone wanting to apply for FREE MONEY to
    study it can write the NCCAM (sp?). Sounds like a very powerful conspiracy,
    indeed!

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    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > The vitamin C foundation published early results for 800-1500%


    reduction

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in
    > plaque using ascorbic acid and lysine.
    > Since it involves 'mega dose vitamin' supplements and Pauling's/Rath's
    > research, I doubt the article will ever be published.
    > Shame really....
    > Anth
    >

    If it was never published, how do you know about it?

    Perhaps Anth was referring to the research that Linus Pauling did that he
    personally tried to suppress. That must be what he's talking about,


    because,

    Quoted message said:

    as you pointed out, Anth wouldn't be aware of it, if his allegations were
    actually true.

  6. Vitamin c/lysine/vitamin e.
    Anth

    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    (No I was referring to recent research that is 'going' to be published)
    Ant

    The beauty of the Internet is that anyone can publish their works for most


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the world to read. Its pretty hard to suppress anything.

    Now, as for getting it published in a proper, peer-reviewed journal


    requires

    Quoted message said:

    that the studies be performed with adequate controls. Bear in mind that


    the

    Quoted message said:

    Vitamin C foundation has a vested interest in this research. That's


    always

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    evil when we are talking about pharmaceuticals, but is somehow valiant


    when

    Quoted message said:

    done in the context of vitamins.

    Vitamin C is freely available and anyone wanting to apply for FREE MONEY


    to

    Quoted message said:

    study it can write the NCCAM (sp?). Sounds like a very powerful


    conspiracy,

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    indeed!

    Quoted message said:


    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >
    >"Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >> The vitamin C foundation published early results for 800-1500%


    reduction

    Quoted message said:

    >in
    >> plaque using ascorbic acid and lysine.
    >> Since it involves 'mega dose vitamin' supplements and


    Pauling's/Rath's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> research, I doubt the article will ever be published.
    >> Shame really....
    >> Anth
    >>
    >
    >If it was never published, how do you know about it?
    >

    Perhaps Anth was referring to the research that Linus Pauling did that


    he

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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    personally tried to suppress. That must be what he's talking about,


    because,

    Quoted message said:

    as you pointed out, Anth wouldn't be aware of it, if his allegations


    were

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    Quoted message said:
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    actually true.

  7. No - a good source of beans will do.
    Anth

    "WB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    (Ilsa9) said:
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    Vitamin c/lysine/vitamin e.
    Anth

    Yes, yes, yes, Anth. Vitamin E is also pretty freely available, I don't


    know

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    about Lysine, but since it is an amino acid, its either on the shelves or


    in

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    Turkey.

    Wait a minute... you have to go all the way to Turkey to get lysine ?

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    The point is, the the EEEEEEEEEEeeeevil, GENOCIDAL, Multi-National,
    Corporate, VITAMIN CARTEL has a vested interest in this. Do you think


    they

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    would sell more or less of their products IF the tests were positive AND


    (wait

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    for it) Replicated?

    The results can be published by anyone with a modicum of internet access.

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    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > >(No I was referring to recent research that is 'going' to be


    published)

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    > >Ant
    >
    > The beauty of the Internet is that anyone can publish their works for


    most

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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of
    > the world to read. Its pretty hard to suppress anything.
    >
    > Now, as for getting it published in a proper, peer-reviewed journal
    requires
    > that the studies be performed with adequate controls. Bear in mind


    that

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    the
    > Vitamin C foundation has a vested interest in this research. That's
    always
    > evil when we are talking about pharmaceuticals, but is somehow valiant
    when
    > done in the context of vitamins.
    >
    > Vitamin C is freely available and anyone wanting to apply for FREE


    MONEY

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    to
    > study it can write the NCCAM (sp?). Sounds like a very powerful
    conspiracy,
    > indeed!



  8. On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:09:45 GMT, "Doug"
    <[email hidden]> posted:

    Quoted message said:


    "Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The vitamin C foundation published early results for 800-1500% reduction


    in

    Quoted message said:

    plaque using ascorbic acid and lysine.
    Since it involves 'mega dose vitamin' supplements and Pauling's/Rath's
    research, I doubt the article will ever be published.
    Shame really....
    Anth

    If it was never published, how do you know about it?

    Doug, Doug, Doug! Such awkward questions. Didn't your Mom tell you
    that wasn't nice? 🙂

  9. On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 17:00:40 +0100, "Anth" <[email hidden]> posted:

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    Website with the results on.

    So it WAS published? What is the URL?

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    Anth

    "Doug" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    The vitamin C foundation published early results for 800-1500% reduction


    in

    Quoted message said:

    plaque using ascorbic acid and lysine.
    Since it involves 'mega dose vitamin' supplements and Pauling's/Rath's
    research, I doubt the article will ever be published.
    Shame really....
    Anth

    If it was never published, how do you know about it?

    --
    "The emperor is naked!"
    "No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

    to email me
    Please remove "all your clothes"

    Doug


  10. http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/
    Anth

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  11. Ilsa9 wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (No I was referring to recent research that is 'going' to be published)
    Ant

    Quoted message said:

    The beauty of the Internet is that anyone can publish their works for most of
    the world to read. Its pretty hard to suppress anything.

    Precisely!!!

    The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is the foundation of the
    biomedical model of natural health. Weighing in at 17 webpages,
    Nutrition ( http://www.Food.NaturalHealthPerspective.com/ ) is now
    with more documentation and sharper terminology than ever before.

    Quoted message said:

    Now, as for getting it published in a proper, peer-reviewed journal requires
    that the studies be performed with adequate controls.

    It is also very easy to start an online journal of your own.

    And, you can produce e-books with print-on-demand options.

    Quoted message said:

    Bear in mind that the
    Vitamin C foundation has a vested interest in this research. That's always
    evil when we are talking about pharmaceuticals, but is somehow valiant when
    done in the context of vitamins.

    Vitamin C is freely available and anyone wanting to apply for FREE MONEY to
    study it can write the NCCAM (sp?). Sounds like a very powerful conspiracy,
    indeed!

    Frankly, I am very tempted to try to get something of my own
    authorship published in one of these peer-reviewed journals. Perhaps,
    some kind of commentary?
    --
    John Gohde,
    Achieving good Health is an Art, NOT a Science!
    http://NaturalHealthPerspective.com/
    The ONLY Frauds in Health are those who couldn't care less about
    prevention.

  12. Quoted message said:

    Ilsa9 wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (No I was referring to recent research that is 'going' to be published)
    Ant

    Quoted message said:

    The beauty of the Internet is that anyone can publish their works for most


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the world to read. Its pretty hard to suppress anything.

    Precisely!!!

    The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is the foundation of the
    biomedical model of natural health. Weighing in at 17 webpages,
    Nutrition ( http://www.Food.NaturalHealthPerspective.com/ ) is now
    with more documentation and sharper terminology than ever before.

    Translation: you posted & hosted a larger, shiner html turd than ever before.
    Congratulations on your self-satisfaction.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Now, as for getting it published in a proper, peer-reviewed journal


    requires

    Quoted message said:

    that the studies be performed with adequate controls.

    It is also very easy to start an online journal of your own.

    And, you can produce e-books with print-on-demand options.

    Yes & yes.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Bear in mind that the
    Vitamin C foundation has a vested interest in this research. That's always
    evil when we are talking about pharmaceuticals, but is somehow valiant when
    done in the context of vitamins.

    Vitamin C is freely available and anyone wanting to apply for FREE MONEY to
    study it can write the NCCAM (sp?). Sounds like a very powerful


    conspiracy,

    Quoted message said:

    indeed!

    Frankly, I am very tempted to try to get something of my own
    authorship published in one of these peer-reviewed journals. Perhaps,
    some kind of commentary?
    --
    John Gohde,

    Anyone can apply.........

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