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  1. "Markasurus Probertasaurus" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "D. C. Sessions" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    In said:

    Between February 2002 and February, 2003 I had 12 severe asthma


    attacks

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    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    required a 911 call to be rushed to hospital to be resusitated. In


    February

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    2003 I was admited to hospital and spent 2 weeks there under the care


    of

    Quoted message said:

    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    lung specialist and a heart specialist. I had an angiogram done that


    showed

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a 100% blocked artery that was not repairable.

    We're very interested in this blocked artery. How do the
    followup angiograms look?

    Remember that not all coronary artery blockage is created equal. A 100%
    block of the LAD before the first bifurcation is known as a widow maker.
    Other 100% blocks are survivable, and liveable.

    Since we have seen numerous 100% arterial blocks be resolved by restoring
    our full immune system. That means a few things. First we must replace all
    medications with natural ones. Then we must supplement to supply all
    nutrients
    necessary to grow healthy new tissue. In this process new arteries and new
    heart
    muscle get grown. That is the process that is in process with me. My
    progress
    appears to be very good. I know that some people here think that I am only
    here
    because I happen to sell ginseng. I am here because I am healing from an
    incurable disease and my experience gives (true) hope to others. I get about
    600
    people a month coming to me for help. This ginseng may be a part of what
    they
    require, or it may not. I work with an intuitive healer who heals people
    every day.

  2. --

    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Since we have seen numerous 100% arterial blocks be resolved by restoring
    our full immune system.

    The immune system has nothing whatsoever to do with blockages of the
    coronary arteries.

    Quoted message said:

    That means a few things. First we must replace all
    medications with natural ones.

    One of the most important medications for people with coronary artery
    disease is aspirin. Perhaps they should chew willow bark every day instead?

    Quoted message said:

    Then we must supplement to supply all
    nutrients
    necessary to grow healthy new tissue. In this process new arteries and new
    heart
    muscle get grown.

    Every nutrient necessary to grow healthy new tissue is available in ordinary
    foods.

    Quoted message said:

    That is the process that is in process with me. My
    progress
    appears to be very good. I know that some people here think that I am only
    here
    because I happen to sell ginseng. I am here because I am healing from an
    incurable disease and my experience gives (true) hope to others. I get


    about

    Quoted message said:

    600
    people a month coming to me for help. This ginseng may be a part of what
    they
    require, or it may not.

    It's not.

    Quoted message said:

    I work with an intuitive healer who heals people
    every day.

    And you are a greedy heel who spams newsgroups every day. GO AWAY SPAMMER!

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave said:


    "Markasurus Probertasaurus" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "D. C. Sessions" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In <[email hidden]>, Dave wrote:

    > Between February 2002 and February, 2003 I had 12 severe asthma


    attacks

    Quoted message said:

    that

    Quoted message said:

    > required a 911 call to be rushed to hospital to be resusitated. In


    February

    Quoted message said:

    > 2003 I was admited to hospital and spent 2 weeks there under the care


    of

    Quoted message said:

    a

    Quoted message said:

    > lung specialist and a heart specialist. I had an angiogram done that


    showed

    Quoted message said:

    > a 100% blocked artery that was not repairable.

    We're very interested in this blocked artery. How do the
    followup angiograms look?

    Remember that not all coronary artery blockage is created equal. A 100%
    block of the LAD before the first bifurcation is known as a widow maker.
    Other 100% blocks are survivable, and liveable.

    Since we have seen numerous 100% arterial blocks be resolved by
    restoring our full immune system. That means a few things. First we
    must replace all medications with natural ones. Then we must
    supplement to supply all nutrients necessary to grow healthy new
    tissue. In this process new arteries and new heart muscle get
    grown.

    No, I don't believe they do -- in particular, you are NOT growing new
    coronary arteries, no matter what fantasies you may have about the
    subject. Also, I don't believe we grow new muscles, though we can
    improve the fitness of the ones we already have.

    Quoted message said:

    I know that some people here think that I am only here
    because I happen to sell ginseng.

    Their confusion is understandable, given that you are only here
    because you happen to sell ginseng.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  4. Dave said:

    Between February 2002 and February, 2003 I had 12 severe asthma attacks that
    required a 911 call to be rushed to hospital to be resusitated. In February
    2003 I was admited to hospital and spent 2 weeks there under the care of a
    lung specialist and a heart specialist. I had an angiogram done that showed
    a 100% blocked artery that was not repairable. My diagnosis was some heart
    muscle damage from a heart attack that I knew had occurred in 1999 and
    hardening of the arteries. I was told that I had severe heart and lung
    disease and would be an invalid for the rest of my life. They released me
    with the following prescriptions: Warfarin, Furosenide, Ramipril,
    Raninidine, Ditiazen, Pulmicort, Oxeze, Atrovent, Nitroglycerin, Nitrodur,
    Cardym and Cipro for my recurring chest infections.

    snipped

    And to think, you believed these evil doctors. Obviously a vast
    conspiracy to make you addicted to these drugs and to support the evil
    pharmaceutical doctors.

    It's a good thing that as soon as your life was saved, again by these
    evil doctors, that you rejected the cabals of organized medicine, and
    their minions of evil.

    Ok, BTW, the next time you go to the hospital,asking them to save your
    life, don't tell the who you are.

    Oh, wait, they would do the same all over again, it's their job.

    j

  5. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Eliminating medications
    From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
    Date: 10/17/2003 5:43 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave said:


    "Markasurus Probertasaurus" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "D. C. Sessions" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > In <[email hidden]>, Dave wrote:
    >
    > > Between February 2002 and February, 2003 I had 12 severe asthma


    attacks

    Quoted message said:

    that
    > > required a 911 call to be rushed to hospital to be resusitated. In
    February
    > > 2003 I was admited to hospital and spent 2 weeks there under the care


    of

    Quoted message said:

    a
    > > lung specialist and a heart specialist. I had an angiogram done that
    showed
    > > a 100% blocked artery that was not repairable.
    >
    > We're very interested in this blocked artery. How do the
    > followup angiograms look?

    Remember that not all coronary artery blockage is created equal. A 100%
    block of the LAD before the first bifurcation is known as a widow maker.
    Other 100% blocks are survivable, and liveable.

    Since we have seen numerous 100% arterial blocks be resolved by
    restoring our full immune system. That means a few things. First we
    must replace all medications with natural ones. Then we must
    supplement to supply all nutrients necessary to grow healthy new
    tissue. In this process new arteries and new heart muscle get
    grown.

    No, I don't believe they do -- in particular, you are NOT growing new
    coronary arteries, no matter what fantasies you may have about the
    subject. Also, I don't believe we grow new muscles, though we can
    improve the fitness of the ones we already have.

    You are very wrong. A lady who is very close to me had a problem with n artery
    to her heart. She is 71 and walks three miles a day. She went in for test and
    it showed she is growing a new arteries!!!!!

    Jan

  6. Jan wrote:
    <snip>
    She

    Quoted message said:

    went in for test and it showed she is growing a new arteries!!!!!

    If I send her some manure, will she grow me some?

  7. "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave said:


    "Markasurus Probertasaurus" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "D. C. Sessions" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > In <[email hidden]>, Dave wrote:
    >
    > > Between February 2002 and February, 2003 I had 12 severe asthma


    attacks

    Quoted message said:

    that
    > > required a 911 call to be rushed to hospital to be resusitated. In
    February
    > > 2003 I was admited to hospital and spent 2 weeks there under the


    care

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of

    Quoted message said:

    a
    > > lung specialist and a heart specialist. I had an angiogram done


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    showed
    > > a 100% blocked artery that was not repairable.
    >
    > We're very interested in this blocked artery. How do the
    > followup angiograms look?

    Remember that not all coronary artery blockage is created equal. A 100%
    block of the LAD before the first bifurcation is known as a widow


    maker.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Other 100% blocks are survivable, and liveable.

    Since we have seen numerous 100% arterial blocks be resolved by
    restoring our full immune system. That means a few things. First we
    must replace all medications with natural ones. Then we must
    supplement to supply all nutrients necessary to grow healthy new
    tissue. In this process new arteries and new heart muscle get
    grown.

    No, I don't believe they do -- in particular, you are NOT growing new
    coronary arteries, no matter what fantasies you may have about the
    subject.

    While I doubt that ginseng has anything to do with it, a peson can develop
    collateral circulation around a blockage.

    Also, I don't believe we grow new muscles, though we can

    Quoted message said:

    improve the fitness of the ones we already have.

    Quoted message said:

    I know that some people here think that I am only here
    because I happen to sell ginseng.

    Their confusion is understandable, given that you are only here
    because you happen to sell ginseng.

    And [censored].

  8. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Eliminating medications
    From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
    Date: 10/17/2003 5:43 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave said:


    "Markasurus Probertasaurus" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > "D. C. Sessions" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > > In <[email hidden]>, Dave wrote:
    > >
    > > > Between February 2002 and February, 2003 I had 12 severe asthma
    attacks
    > that
    > > > required a 911 call to be rushed to hospital to be resusitated. In
    > February
    > > > 2003 I was admited to hospital and spent 2 weeks there under the


    care

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of
    > a
    > > > lung specialist and a heart specialist. I had an angiogram done


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > showed
    > > > a 100% blocked artery that was not repairable.
    > >
    > > We're very interested in this blocked artery. How do the
    > > followup angiograms look?
    >
    > Remember that not all coronary artery blockage is created equal. A


    100%

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > block of the LAD before the first bifurcation is known as a widow


    maker.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Other 100% blocks are survivable, and liveable.

    Since we have seen numerous 100% arterial blocks be resolved by
    restoring our full immune system. That means a few things. First we
    must replace all medications with natural ones. Then we must
    supplement to supply all nutrients necessary to grow healthy new
    tissue. In this process new arteries and new heart muscle get
    grown.

    No, I don't believe they do -- in particular, you are NOT growing new
    coronary arteries, no matter what fantasies you may have about the
    subject. Also, I don't believe we grow new muscles, though we can
    improve the fitness of the ones we already have.

    You are very wrong. A lady who is very close to me had a problem with n


    artery

    Quoted message said:

    to her heart. She is 71 and walks three miles a day. She went in for test


    and

    Quoted message said:

    it showed she is growing a new arteries!!!!!

    Broken digital clock.

    However, the growth of collaterals is not dependent on ginseng. Some people
    do it on the same diet that caused the blockage.

  9. "Say not the Struggle nought Availeth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Dave said:

    Between February 2002 and February, 2003 I had 12 severe asthma attacks


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    required a 911 call to be rushed to hospital to be resusitated. In


    February

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    2003 I was admited to hospital and spent 2 weeks there under the care of


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    lung specialist and a heart specialist. I had an angiogram done that


    showed

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a 100% blocked artery that was not repairable. My diagnosis was some


    heart

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    muscle damage from a heart attack that I knew had occurred in 1999 and
    hardening of the arteries. I was told that I had severe heart and lung
    disease and would be an invalid for the rest of my life. They released


    me

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    with the following prescriptions: Warfarin, Furosenide, Ramipril,
    Raninidine, Ditiazen, Pulmicort, Oxeze, Atrovent, Nitroglycerin,


    Nitrodur,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Cardym and Cipro for my recurring chest infections.

    snipped

    And to think, you believed these evil doctors. Obviously a vast
    conspiracy to make you addicted to these drugs and to support the evil
    pharmaceutical doctors.

    It's a good thing that as soon as your life was saved, again by these
    evil doctors, that you rejected the cabals of organized medicine, and
    their minions of evil.

    Ok, BTW, the next time you go to the hospital,asking them to save your
    life, don't tell the who you are.

    Oh, wait, they would do the same all over again, it's their job.

    j

    If you read better you would have seen me say that I appreciate what they
    did
    for me. I no longer have asthma attacks, swollen legs, or angina pains. I
    took
    their medications because they said if I didn't do what they say, they would
    no longer treat me.

  10. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Eliminating medications
    From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
    Date: 10/17/2003 5:43 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave said:


    "Markasurus Probertasaurus" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > "D. C. Sessions" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > > In <[email hidden]>, Dave wrote:
    > >
    > > > Between February 2002 and February, 2003 I had 12 severe asthma
    attacks
    > that
    > > > required a 911 call to be rushed to hospital to be resusitated. In
    > February
    > > > 2003 I was admited to hospital and spent 2 weeks there under the


    care

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of
    > a
    > > > lung specialist and a heart specialist. I had an angiogram done


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > showed
    > > > a 100% blocked artery that was not repairable.
    > >
    > > We're very interested in this blocked artery. How do the
    > > followup angiograms look?
    >
    > Remember that not all coronary artery blockage is created equal. A


    100%

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > block of the LAD before the first bifurcation is known as a widow


    maker.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Other 100% blocks are survivable, and liveable.

    Since we have seen numerous 100% arterial blocks be resolved by
    restoring our full immune system. That means a few things. First we
    must replace all medications with natural ones. Then we must
    supplement to supply all nutrients necessary to grow healthy new
    tissue. In this process new arteries and new heart muscle get
    grown.

    No, I don't believe they do -- in particular, you are NOT growing new
    coronary arteries, no matter what fantasies you may have about the
    subject. Also, I don't believe we grow new muscles, though we can
    improve the fitness of the ones we already have.

    You are very wrong. A lady who is very close to me had a problem with n


    artery

    Quoted message said:

    to her heart. She is 71 and walks three miles a day. She went in for test


    and

    Quoted message said:

    it showed she is growing a new arteries!!!!!

    Jan

    See my new post on growing arteries.

  11. "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "fred & michele" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Markositious Probertositious" <[email hidden]> wrote


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    > Do you know the symptoms of ginseng withdrawal?

    Yes, disease may develop.

    So you're claiming that disease is actually the result of ginseng
    deficiency? Hmmm, what is the ideal level of ginseng in the body, Dave?
    Surely it can be measured? Of course there is a widely accepted


    recommended

    Quoted message said:

    daily amount -- not established by the gov't., but by those considered
    experts in the field of alt. medicine?

    BTW wouldn't taking ginseng be *unnatural* for people in places where
    ginseng isn't found *naturally*? (Or where the "inferior" ginseng


    you've

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    spoken of grows?)

    I am amused by your silliness. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

    What is amusing is your inability to answer *any* of the questions my post
    put forth. Unless I'm mistaking your dodging of the questions posed as your
    being unable to answer them? Which is it, Dave --you have no information or
    you (wisely) choose to avoid to sharing it because it would no doubt put a
    cramp in your sales?

    Michele
    I ENJOY being a cranky [censored].

  12. (Jan) said:

    A lady who

    My dog plays chess.

    Aribert Deckers
    --
    POLICE - POLIZEI - POLITIE - POLICIA

    http://www.ariplex.com/ama/amapolis.htm

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Markasurus Probertasaurus said:


    "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave said:


    "Markasurus Probertasaurus" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > "D. C. Sessions" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > > In <[email hidden]>, Dave wrote:
    > >
    > > > Between February 2002 and February, 2003 I had 12 severe asthma
    attacks
    > that
    > > > required a 911 call to be rushed to hospital to be resusitated. In
    > February
    > > > 2003 I was admited to hospital and spent 2 weeks there under the


    care

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of
    > a
    > > > lung specialist and a heart specialist. I had an angiogram done


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > showed
    > > > a 100% blocked artery that was not repairable.
    > >
    > > We're very interested in this blocked artery. How do the
    > > followup angiograms look?
    >
    > Remember that not all coronary artery blockage is created equal. A 100%
    > block of the LAD before the first bifurcation is known as a widow


    maker.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Other 100% blocks are survivable, and liveable.

    Since we have seen numerous 100% arterial blocks be resolved by
    restoring our full immune system. That means a few things. First we
    must replace all medications with natural ones. Then we must
    supplement to supply all nutrients necessary to grow healthy new
    tissue. In this process new arteries and new heart muscle get
    grown.

    No, I don't believe they do -- in particular, you are NOT growing new
    coronary arteries, no matter what fantasies you may have about the
    subject.

    While I doubt that ginseng has anything to do with it, a peson can develop
    collateral circulation around a blockage.

    Sorry, I meant he wasn't going to grow a new major artery. At least,
    I don't think he is.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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