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  1. Or in this case, more FAT! I paid a little extra and bought some Bryan
    thick cut bacon. Should be better since it cost a tad more, right? Wrong.
    What I got was pretty much a slab of fat with a few streaks of lean. I was
    better off buying what I *thought* was cheap store-brand bacon rather than a
    name brand for a dollar more. Won't make that mistake again. Store brand
    next time for sure! More lean, less fat and save a buck!

    Jill
    --
    I used to have a handle on life...but it broke off.

  2. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Or in this case, more FAT! I paid a little extra and bought some Bryan
    thick cut bacon. Should be better since it cost a tad more, right?


    Wrong.

    Quoted message said:

    What I got was pretty much a slab of fat with a few streaks of lean. I


    was

    Quoted message said:

    better off buying what I *thought* was cheap store-brand bacon rather than


    a

    Quoted message said:

    name brand for a dollar more. Won't make that mistake again. Store brand
    next time for sure! More lean, less fat and save a buck!

    Ayrshire cured middle bacon - delicious! I bought a chunk of that (not
    rashers) to make the bacon, bean and veg. herby stew I made last w/e for
    everyone of us campers. It was *delicious*! I wish I'd bought some rashers
    of it too for breakfast...

    Shaun aRe - If it comes in a plastic packet, it ain't bacon, it's pork flesh
    based sponge slices - you can't even fry it properly - it has to boil in
    it's own water for several minutes first, heheheh...

  3. Shaun aRe said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Or in this case, more FAT! I paid a little extra and bought some
    Bryan thick cut bacon. Should be better since it cost a tad more,
    right? Wrong. What I got was pretty much a slab of fat with a few
    streaks of lean. I was better off buying what I *thought* was cheap
    store-brand bacon rather than a name brand for a dollar more. Won't
    make that mistake again. Store brand next time for sure! More
    lean, less fat and save a buck!

    Ayrshire cured middle bacon - delicious! I bought a chunk of that (not
    rashers) to make the bacon, bean and veg. herby stew I made last w/e
    for everyone of us campers. It was *delicious*! I wish I'd bought
    some rashers of it too for breakfast...

    Shaun aRe

    Must be a regional thing. I've never heard of it.

    Jill

  4. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Shaun aRe said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Or in this case, more FAT! I paid a little extra and bought some
    Bryan thick cut bacon. Should be better since it cost a tad more,
    right? Wrong. What I got was pretty much a slab of fat with a few
    streaks of lean. I was better off buying what I *thought* was cheap
    store-brand bacon rather than a name brand for a dollar more. Won't
    make that mistake again. Store brand next time for sure! More
    lean, less fat and save a buck!

    Ayrshire cured middle bacon - delicious! I bought a chunk of that (not
    rashers) to make the bacon, bean and veg. herby stew I made last w/e
    for everyone of us campers. It was *delicious*! I wish I'd bought
    some rashers of it too for breakfast...

    Shaun aRe

    Must be a regional thing. I've never heard of it.

    I know! - I just wanted to make you jealous - it's a Scottish thing ',;~}~

    Ayrshire bacon traditionally isn't actually smoked, but you can find it that
    way (I'm a fan of smoked meats). Usually it's only lightly done, and with
    oak, although the piece I got had been smoked more heavily (which is rare to
    find).

    OooOOoo, lookie what I've found! Lots of pork goodies:

    http://www.caleyco.com/products/meat/pork?c1=Adwords&source=bacon-ramsays

    http://www.ramsayofcarluke.co.uk/whyrams.htm

    Cheers!

    Shaun aRe

  5. In article <[email hidden]>, "jmcquown"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:
    (snip)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ayrshire cured middle bacon - delicious! I bought a chunk of that (not
    rashers) to make the bacon, bean and veg. herby stew I made last w/e
    for everyone of us campers. It was *delicious*! I wish I'd bought
    some rashers of it too for breakfast...

    Shaun aRe

    Must be a regional thing. I've never heard of it.

    Jill

    Look where he's posting from. :-)
    --
    -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> 7/8/05 WeBeJammin'!

  6. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Or in this case, more FAT! I paid a little extra and bought some Bryan
    thick cut bacon. Should be better since it cost a tad more, right?
    Wrong.
    What I got was pretty much a slab of fat with a few streaks of lean. I
    was
    better off buying what I *thought* was cheap store-brand bacon rather than
    a
    name brand for a dollar more. Won't make that mistake again. Store brand
    next time for sure! More lean, less fat and save a buck!

    Jill
    --
    I used to have a handle on life...but it broke off.

    I noticed something similar with some bacon I bought last week. However,
    mine was the Kroger store brand (labeled no sugar added, 23 percent less
    sodium). It was deceptively packaged -- as most bacon is -- to show
    primarily the lean meat, but it was almost all fat when I opened it. The
    bacon actually tasted good, and I'm not sure what the relative fat
    comparison would be because it cooked down into much shorter strips than
    usual. However, it looks like I will need to avoid bacon even more than I
    have been because I am trying to get less (not more) fat in my diet. I have
    tried turkey bacon but don't like it. I have also tried using grilled
    portabella mushrooms in place of bacon, and that's not a fairly acceptable
    alternative.

    MaryL

  7. "Shaun aRe" wrote in message >

    Quoted message said:

    "jmcquown" wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Or in this case, more FAT! I paid a little extra and bought some Bryan
    thick cut bacon. Should be better since it cost a tad more, right?


    Wrong.

    Quoted message said:

    What I got was pretty much a slab of fat with a few streaks of lean. I


    was

    Quoted message said:

    better off buying what I *thought* was cheap store-brand bacon rather
    than


    a

    Quoted message said:

    name brand for a dollar more. Won't make that mistake again. Store
    brand
    next time for sure! More lean, less fat and save a buck!

    Ayrshire cured middle bacon - delicious! I bought a chunk of that (not
    rashers) to make the bacon, bean and veg. herby stew I made last w/e for
    everyone of us campers. It was *delicious*! I wish I'd bought some rashers
    of it too for breakfast...

    Shaun aRe

    Shame, shame on you for tantalizing me with Scottish bacon. Bacon here in
    the US is comparable to British "streaky" bacon - mostly fat, very little
    lean. What is sold here as "Canadian bacon" isn't like the bacon at home,
    either. I miss short back bacon. How about e-mailing me some, Shaun? <G>

    Dora

  8. jmcquown said:

    Or in this case, more FAT! I paid a little extra and bought some Bryan
    thick cut bacon. Should be better since it cost a tad more, right? Wrong.
    What I got was pretty much a slab of fat with a few streaks of lean. I was
    better off buying what I *thought* was cheap store-brand bacon rather than a
    name brand for a dollar more. Won't make that mistake again. Store brand
    next time for sure! More lean, less fat and save a buck!

    It's a regional thing... sounds like streaky back fat, not at all what
    most Americans call bacon (side pork)

    The proportion of fat to lean is the least important indicator of bacon
    quality, in fact it's no indicator whatsoever, merely as the typical
    American consumer more lean streaks is probably what you're used to.
    With the bacon you purchased you paid a premium [hopefully] for the
    quality of the fat (the young age of the animal and from where cut) and
    their proprietory curing process. If what you want is lean buy
    Canadian bacon. I've found bacon served in the south typically more
    fatty and cooked far less than that served in the north, the further
    south the fattier and less cooked. And from cooking for many thousands
    of southeners found they much prefered fattier bacon and what I call
    rare. I don't much care for that fatty hardly cooked bacon, in fact it
    won't go down, but from your post it's apparently still quite the rage
    in the deep south. From my personal experience with folks from the
    deep south the type of bacon they use is more of a cooking ingredient
    than a breakfast meat... they typically eat ham and sausages instead...
    many thought it weird that northerners cooked bacon to eat. They render
    that fatty bacon for frying, it was extremely rare I found a hillybilly
    boy who'd eat eggs fried in butter, they'd opt for the sausages and
    very soft boiled eggs instead... they only ate wonder type white toast
    and never the ate the crust... funniest thing to watch a hillybilly eat
    a sammich... the crust is the handle, they never eat any.... they don't
    seem to like any baked products well done, to me what they call baked
    pie crust is warm raw dough.

    If you have a complaint you can certainly contact:
    http://www.bryanfoods.com/default.aspx

    Sheldon

  9. Quoted message said:


    Shame, shame on you for tantalizing me with Scottish bacon. Bacon here


    in

    Quoted message said:

    the US is comparable to British "streaky" bacon - mostly fat, very little
    lean. What is sold here as "Canadian bacon" isn't like the bacon at


    home,

    Quoted message said:

    either. I miss short back bacon. How about e-mailing me some, Shaun?


    <G>

    Quoted message said:


    Dora

    Hi
    delurking for a minute...

    I went to the Formula 1 race at Spa in Belgium last year. The hotel we
    stayed at was in Epen, Holland and they had without a doubt the best bacon
    I've ever tasted available every morning on their breakfast buffet.
    Extremely lean, very flavorful and not at all "chemical-ly" or salty tasting
    like many of the commercial bacons I've had here in the States.
    Being from the US and never having experienced overseas meat, I was not at
    all expecting such yumminess. Oh, the rest of the buffet was equally
    delicious. Homemade yogurt, fresh berries, soft and hard boiled eggs,
    crepes, 8 or 9 different cheeses, various other meats like salami, ham,
    etc... INCREDIBLE coffee, fresh baked breads and pastries.... goodness
    sakes, I need to get back soon! Many in our group would prepare sandwiches
    at the hotel and take them to the track with us as the food at Spa is not
    too great, except maybe for the pomme frite with the various sauces to
    slather on them.
    Also, we ate dinner at a nearby hotel one night and I had some of the most
    tender, flavorful beef I've ever eaten. The waiter explained that his
    father, along with being the hotel proprietor was also the town butcher and
    therefore the hotel dining room received the best cuts daily. He told me my
    tournadoes had been mooing in the fields that morning.
    That was a trip I will not ever forget. Great racing, great beer, and great
    food.

    Back to lurking....

    --
    TigBits
    (o)Y(o)

  10. Sheldon said:
    jmcquown said:

    Or in this case, more FAT! I paid a little extra and bought some
    Bryan thick cut bacon. Should be better since it cost a tad more,
    right? Wrong. What I got was pretty much a slab of fat

    It's a regional thing... sounds like streaky back fat, not at all what
    most Americans call bacon (side pork)


    Ahem, it's called "fat back" not "back fat". But I don't buy it. Salt pork
    for soups, yes, and in fact this bacon had more fat than salt pork.

    Quoted message said:

    The proportion of fat to lean is the least important indicator of
    bacon quality, in fact it's no indicator whatsoever, merely as the
    typical
    American consumer more lean streaks is probably what you're used to.
    With the bacon you purchased you paid a premium [hopefully] for the
    quality of the fat (the young age of the animal and from where cut)
    and
    their proprietory curing process. If what you want is lean buy
    Canadian bacon.

    Peameal bacon is too darned expensive and it's hard to find down here. Also
    too salty for my taste, but you're talking to a woman who soaks ham to rid
    it of excess salt.

    I've found bacon served in the south typically more

    Quoted message said:

    fatty and cooked far less than that served in the north, the further
    south the fattier and less cooked.

    Just curious, how much time have you actually spent south of the Mason-Dixon
    line? I've been down here 35 years and I like my bacon nice and crisp.

    And from cooking for many

    Quoted message said:

    thousands
    of southeners found they much prefered fattier bacon and what I call
    rare. I don't much care for that fatty hardly cooked bacon, in fact
    it
    won't go down, but from your post it's apparently still quite the rage
    in the deep south.

    I never said my bacon was cooked "rare"; in fact, the more fatty it is the
    longer I cook it. I can't stand to chew on blubber, which is why I was so
    disappointed at paying more for bacon and basically getting blubber.

    From my personal experience with folks from the

    Quoted message said:

    deep south the type of bacon they use is more of a cooking ingredient
    than a breakfast meat... they typically eat ham and sausages
    instead...

    Huh. Could have fooled me. I like sausage on occasion; sausage gravy on
    biscuits, certainly! For the most part, country sausage patties contain far
    too much sage and also fat; they shrink up to nothing. They disappear
    inside a biscuit, for shame! But bacon in my neck of the woods is the
    breakfast meat of choice. Crisp bacon.

    Quoted message said:

    many thought it weird that northerners cooked bacon to eat. They
    render
    that fatty bacon for frying, it was extremely rare I found a
    hillybilly
    boy who'd eat eggs fried in butter, they'd opt for the sausages and
    very soft boiled eggs instead... they only ate wonder type white toast
    and never the ate the crust... funniest thing to watch a hillybilly
    eat
    a sammich... the crust is the handle, they never eat any.... they
    don't
    seem to like any baked products well done, to me what they call baked
    pie crust is warm raw dough.


    Again, huh. I've never seen anyone cut the crust off bread in *any* part of
    the USA, from California to New Jersey. That's about as coast to coast as
    you can get 🙂 IIRC Wonder Bread originated in Indiana which is definitely
    *not* in the South. Toast in this household is whole wheat or even
    sourdough bread; I can honestly say I've never bought Wonder Bread in my
    life. I use rendered bacon fat in my cornbread and it's not that sweet
    northern cake-like [censored]! 😉 Oh, and while I've been known to eat a soft
    boiled egg on occasion, the liking for those originated with my parents who
    are most definitely *not* southern.

    Quoted message said:

    If you have a complaint you can certainly contact:
    http://www.bryanfoods.com/default.aspx

    Sheldon

    Thanks, I will. Pisses me off to pay extra for nothing extra 🙂

    Jill

  11. "Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, "jmcquown"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:
    (snip)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ayrshire cured middle bacon - delicious! I bought a chunk of that (not
    rashers) to make the bacon, bean and veg. herby stew I made last w/e
    for everyone of us campers. It was *delicious*! I wish I'd bought
    some rashers of it too for breakfast...

    Shaun aRe

    Must be a regional thing. I've never heard of it.

    Jill

    Look where he's posting from. :-)

    An old chair in a factory?

    ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe

  12. "limey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Shaun aRe" wrote in message >

    Quoted message said:

    "jmcquown" wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Or in this case, more FAT! I paid a little extra and bought some Bryan
    thick cut bacon. Should be better since it cost a tad more, right?


    Wrong.

    Quoted message said:

    What I got was pretty much a slab of fat with a few streaks of lean. I


    was

    Quoted message said:

    better off buying what I *thought* was cheap store-brand bacon rather
    than


    a

    Quoted message said:

    name brand for a dollar more. Won't make that mistake again. Store
    brand
    next time for sure! More lean, less fat and save a buck!

    Ayrshire cured middle bacon - delicious! I bought a chunk of that (not
    rashers) to make the bacon, bean and veg. herby stew I made last w/e for
    everyone of us campers. It was *delicious*! I wish I'd bought some


    rashers

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of it too for breakfast...

    Shaun aRe

    Shame, shame on you for tantalizing me with Scottish bacon. Bacon here


    in

    Quoted message said:

    the US is comparable to British "streaky" bacon - mostly fat, very little
    lean. What is sold here as "Canadian bacon" isn't like the bacon at


    home,

    Quoted message said:

    either.

    I know. Why do you *think* I posted that? Heh... >',;~}~

    Quoted message said:

    I miss short back bacon.

    My favourite too, but some good, quite lean middle is a close second! I
    prefer mine smoked.

    Quoted message said:

    How about e-mailing me some, Shaun? <G>

    Sure - see the link I posted earlier, heheheh!

    Shaun aRe - Had some real great triple smoked short back wild boar not long
    since that was *to die for* - oak, then cherry, then applewood - it was near
    black on the outside!

  13. TigBits said:

    I went to the Formula 1 race at Spa in Belgium last year. The hotel we
    stayed at was in Epen, Holland and they had without a doubt the best bacon
    I've ever tasted available every morning on their breakfast buffet.
    Extremely lean,

    You people are weird. The fat's the point of bacon.

    serene

  14. jmcquown said:
    Shaun aRe said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Or in this case, more FAT! I paid a little extra and bought some
    Bryan thick cut bacon.


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    Must be a regional thing. I've never heard of it.


    FWIW, I've never heard of Bryan brand.

  15. "serene" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    TigBits said:

    I went to the Formula 1 race at Spa in Belgium last year. The hotel we
    stayed at was in Epen, Holland and they had without a doubt the best


    bacon

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've ever tasted available every morning on their breakfast buffet.
    Extremely lean,

    You people are weird. The fat's the point of bacon.

    There was just enough fat content for it to be bacony, but not
    overwhelmingly blubbery, greasy and downright nasty like most bacons served
    here, especially at hotel breakfast buffets :-) I like my bacon not so crisp
    as to be crunchy, but not so underdone as to be limp. These Dutch folk just
    did it perfecly spot on, morning after morning.
    And yes, I am weird.
    --
    TigBits
    (o)Y(o)

  16. jmcquown said:
    Sheldon said:
    jmcquown said:

    Or in this case, more FAT! I paid a little extra and bought some
    Bryan thick cut bacon. Should be better since it cost a tad
    more, right? Wrong. What I got was pretty much a slab of fat

    Bryan is part of Sara Lee. Their web site is particularly uninformative.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It's a regional thing... sounds like streaky back fat, not at all
    what most Americans call bacon (side pork)


    Ahem, it's called "fat back" not "back fat". But I don't buy it.
    Salt pork for soups, yes, and in fact this bacon had more fat than
    salt pork.

    So much for Shecky's Southern Cooking expertise. Fat back is cheap
    stuff, supermarket case stuff, usually unbranded.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The proportion of fat to lean is the least important indicator of
    bacon quality, in fact it's no indicator whatsoever, merely as the
    typical American consumer more lean streaks is probably what
    you're used to. With the bacon you purchased you paid a premium
    [hopefully] for the quality of the fat (the young age of the animal
    and from where cut) and their proprietory curing process. If what
    you want is lean buy Canadian bacon.

    Give it up. It's wet-cured. The only premium worth paying for is
    old-fashioned dry-cure bacon.

    Quoted message said:

    Peameal bacon is too darned expensive and it's hard to find down
    here. Also too salty for my taste, but you're talking to a woman who
    soaks ham to rid it of excess salt.

    As do I here in Virginia.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've found bacon served in the south typically more fatty and
    cooked far less than that served in the north, the further south
    the fattier and less cooked.

    Just curious, how much time have you actually spent south of the
    Mason-Dixon line? I've been down here 35 years and I like my bacon
    nice and crisp.

    Looks like he's been south for maybe 35 minutes. In my Virginia
    restaurants since the 70's, we learned that crisp bacon was how it had
    to be. People very specifically ate it crisp and that was that. That
    chewy bacon was always left over when we ran buffets. Crisp always gone.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    And from cooking for many thousands of southeners found they much
    prefered fattier bacon and what I call rare.

    Rare means something, not just what you call it. Processed meats like
    bacon can't be cooked rare; no blood. And my restaurants over
    30-something years have served literally millions of meals. Sheldon's
    "many thousands of southeners" were in the Navy, some of which he liked
    almost as much as he liked the Italians he grew up with, no doubt. 40
    years ago. Very current knowledge.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I don't much care for
    that fatty hardly cooked bacon, in fact it won't go down, but from
    your post it's apparently still quite the rage in the deep south.

    This is out and out nonsense. The very simple fact is that southerners -
    especially people in rural areas - tend to like meats cooked more
    thoroughly; all meats.

    Quoted message said:

    I never said my bacon was cooked "rare"; in fact, the more fatty it
    is the longer I cook it. I can't stand to chew on blubber, which is
    why I was so disappointed at paying more for bacon and basically
    getting blubber.

    Quoted message said:

    From my personal experience with folks from the deep south the type
    of bacon they use is more of a cooking ingredient than a breakfast
    meat... they typically eat ham and sausages instead...

    Nonsense.

    Quoted message said:

    Huh. Could have fooled me. I like sausage on occasion; sausage
    gravy on biscuits, certainly! For the most part, country sausage
    patties contain far too much sage and also fat; they shrink up to
    nothing. They disappear inside a biscuit, for shame! But bacon in
    my neck of the woods is the breakfast meat of choice. Crisp bacon.

    Exactly. And what we sold hundreds of pounds of bacon each week;
    typically about twice as much raw weight as sausage.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    many thought it weird that northerners cooked bacon to eat. They
    render that fatty bacon for frying, it was extremely rare I found a
    hillybilly boy who'd eat eggs fried in butter, they'd opt for the
    sausages and very soft boiled eggs instead... they only ate wonder
    type white toast and never the ate the crust... funniest thing to
    watch a hillybilly eat a sammich... the crust is the handle, they
    never eat any.... they don't seem to like any baked products well
    done, to me what they call baked pie crust is warm raw dough.

    [censored]. He never spent any time in the south cooking. Fried eggs in
    butter or bacon grease are the breakfast staples. The number of
    soft-boiled egg orders we'd get in a week could be counted on one hand.
    Homemade breads were the order of the day in all the old timers' houses,
    and in restaurants, they've increasingly gone to better quality breads.
    I've very rarely ever seen uneaten bread crusts in all the years of
    cooking and serving breakfast in many restaurants, mine and the ones I
    ran for others.

    As for pies, that baked crust comment is just nuts. It's very, very
    clear that Sheldon is making it up as he goes or is as insane as suspected.

    Quoted message said:

    Again, huh. I've never seen anyone cut the crust off bread in *any*
    part of the USA, from California to New Jersey. That's about as
    coast to coast as you can get 🙂 IIRC Wonder Bread originated in
    Indiana which is definitely *not* in the South. Toast in this
    household is whole wheat or even sourdough bread; I can honestly say
    I've never bought Wonder Bread in my life. I use rendered bacon fat
    in my cornbread and it's not that sweet northern cake-like [censored]! 😉
    Oh, and while I've been known to eat a soft boiled egg on occasion,
    the liking for those originated with my parents who are most
    definitely *not* southern.

    Sheldon is full of [censored]. Shocked? His information from upstate New York
    about southern eating habits certainly falls well within his usual level
    of knowledge. Unfortunately. Pretender to knowledge...

    Pastorio

  17. jmcquown said:
    Sheldon said:
    jmcquown said:

    Or in this case, more FAT! I paid a little extra and bought some
    Bryan thick cut bacon. Should be better since it cost a tad more,
    right? Wrong. What I got was pretty much a slab of fat

    It's a regional thing... sounds like streaky back fat, not at all what
    most Americans call bacon (side pork)

    Ahem, it's called "fat back" not "back fat". But I don't buy it. Salt pork
    for soups, yes, and in fact this bacon had more fat than salt pork.

    Quoted message said:

    The proportion of fat to lean is the least important indicator of
    bacon quality, in fact it's no indicator whatsoever, merely as the
    typical
    American consumer more lean streaks is probably what you're used to.
    With the bacon you purchased you paid a premium [hopefully] for the
    quality of the fat (the young age of the animal and from where cut)
    and
    their proprietory curing process. If what you want is lean buy
    Canadian bacon.

    What Americans consider Canadian bacon is not peameal bacon. We've had
    Canadian bacon at American restaurants and hate the stuff. It is a thin
    slice of processed lunch meat type thing instead of peameal bacon. Now
    peameal bacon is Canadian bacon 🙂

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    Peameal bacon is too darned expensive and it's hard to find down here. Also
    too salty for my taste, but you're talking to a woman who soaks ham to rid
    it of excess salt.

    We often have a dinner with peameal bacon as the meat. It's a lot
    leaner and supposedly lower in sodium than regular bacon.

    Quoted message said:


    I've found bacon served in the south typically more

    Quoted message said:

    fatty and cooked far less than that served in the north, the further
    south the fattier and less cooked.

    Just curious, how much time have you actually spent south of the Mason-Dixon
    line? I've been down here 35 years and I like my bacon nice and crisp.

    And from cooking for many

    Quoted message said:

    thousands
    of southeners found they much prefered fattier bacon and what I call
    rare. I don't much care for that fatty hardly cooked bacon, in fact
    it
    won't go down, but from your post it's apparently still quite the rage
    in the deep south.

    I never said my bacon was cooked "rare"; in fact, the more fatty it is the
    longer I cook it. I can't stand to chew on blubber, which is why I was so
    disappointed at paying more for bacon and basically getting blubber.

    From my personal experience with folks from the

    Quoted message said:

    deep south the type of bacon they use is more of a cooking ingredient
    than a breakfast meat... they typically eat ham and sausages
    instead...

    Huh. Could have fooled me. I like sausage on occasion; sausage gravy on
    biscuits, certainly! For the most part, country sausage patties contain far
    too much sage and also fat; they shrink up to nothing. They disappear
    inside a biscuit, for shame! But bacon in my neck of the woods is the
    breakfast meat of choice. Crisp bacon.

    I could just slap the person who introduced DH to sausage gravy! He
    loves the stuff. He can't stop with just one biscuit and a little
    gravy. No, he has to eat every single biscuit and the whole pan full of
    gravy. Not good for the cholesterol level or weight watching. I only
    make it for him a couple of times a year because I know he has no
    restraint. I don't eat it so that leaves a lot for him.

    Quoted message said:
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    many thought it weird that northerners cooked bacon to eat. They
    render
    that fatty bacon for frying, it was extremely rare I found a
    hillybilly
    boy who'd eat eggs fried in butter, they'd opt for the sausages and
    very soft boiled eggs instead... they only ate wonder type white toast
    and never the ate the crust... funniest thing to watch a hillybilly
    eat
    a sammich... the crust is the handle, they never eat any.... they
    don't
    seem to like any baked products well done, to me what they call baked
    pie crust is warm raw dough.

    Again, huh. I've never seen anyone cut the crust off bread in *any* part of
    the USA, from California to New Jersey. That's about as coast to coast as
    you can get 🙂 IIRC Wonder Bread originated in Indiana which is definitely
    *not* in the South. Toast in this household is whole wheat or even
    sourdough bread; I can honestly say I've never bought Wonder Bread in my
    life. I use rendered bacon fat in my cornbread and it's not that sweet
    northern cake-like [censored]! 😉 Oh, and while I've been known to eat a soft
    boiled egg on occasion, the liking for those originated with my parents who
    are most definitely *not* southern.

    Quoted message said:

    If you have a complaint you can certainly contact:
    http://www.bryanfoods.com/default.aspx

    Sheldon

    Thanks, I will. Pisses me off to pay extra for nothing extra 🙂

    Jill

  18. Bob (this one) said:
    jmcquown said:
    Sheldon said:

    jmcquown wrote:

    > Or in this case, more FAT! I paid a little extra and bought some
    > Bryan thick cut bacon. Should be better since it cost a tad
    > more, right? Wrong. What I got was pretty much a slab of fat

    Bryan is part of Sara Lee. Their web site is particularly
    uninformative.


    I know. My brother worked for them for about 14 years doing programming
    (not for their web site). He used to get free food. That's not a bad deal!
    (I was also literally picked up off the ground by Jimmy Dean - another
    company owned by Sara Lee Corp; I was lifted off the floor and twirled
    around by the old man himself. He of the diamond belt buckle. LOL)

    They had employees taste-test new products. They had a test kitchen; I got
    a tour of it. They had these little booths the employees would sit in so
    they couldn't see each other or chit-chat about what they were tasting.
    They would be given a sample of one thing, then a cup of water and a cracker
    to cleanse the palate, then a taste of the next thing. Then they wrote down
    their opinions of sample #1 vs. sample #2.

    Sara Lee corporation also owns non-food related companies including Hanes
    Hosiery and Bali Bras.

    Jill

  19. jmcquown said:

    Or in this case, more FAT! I paid a little extra and bought some Bryan
    thick cut bacon. Should be better since it cost a tad more, right? Wrong.
    What I got was pretty much a slab of fat with a few streaks of lean. I was
    better off buying what I *thought* was cheap store-brand bacon rather than a
    name brand for a dollar more. Won't make that mistake again. Store brand
    next time for sure! More lean, less fat and save a buck!

    I am very careful when I buy bacon. I always go through all the packages in the
    bin to get one with an acceptable ratio of fat to lean. Thank goodness
    Canadian processors have not resorted to the style of packaging that I have seen
    in the US. When I was looking for bacon in American grocery stores it was
    packaged so that you see only the outside of the bacon and cannot see the slices
    to see how fatty they are. Our bacon is still packaged with the fat and lean
    clearly visible. Perhaps there were enough people like myself who flatly refuse
    to buy it if we cannot see it.

    BTW.... for any one in southern Ontario shopping for bacon, keep an eye out for
    the slabs of bacon from Siders out of Hamilton. That stuff is excellent, and it
    is much cheaper than the pre sliced and packaged stuff.

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Shaun aRe said:

    "Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, "jmcquown"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:
    (snip)

    Quoted message said:

    > Ayrshire cured middle bacon - delicious! I bought a chunk of
    > that (not rashers) to make the bacon, bean and veg. herby stew
    > I made last w/e for everyone of us campers. It was *delicious*!
    > I wish I'd bought some rashers of it too for breakfast...
    >
    > Shaun aRe

    Must be a regional thing. I've never heard of it.

    Quoted message said:
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    Jill

    Look where he's posting from. :-)

    An old chair in a factory?

    ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe

    I was thinking the UK, since that's part of your email address.
    Are you in the UK? Fess up, lad/lassie.
    --
    -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> 7/8/05 WeBeJammin'!

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