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  1. A group of us are going to see this movie. Maybe you saw the Primetime feature
    with Mel Gibson, Monday night?

    The focus is not to place blame, but rather to show what Jesus Christ, son of
    God, was willing to go through to save us all from our sins.

    ...........................................
    Paul Harvey Comments on "The Passion" by Mel Gibson
    Paul Harvey's words:
    I really did not know what to expect. I was thrilled to have been
    Invited to a private viewing of Mel Gibson's film "The Passion," but I
    had also read all the cautious articles and spin. I grew up in a Jewish town
    and Owe much of my own faith journey to the influence. I have a life
    long, deeply held aversion to anything that might even indirectly encourage
    any formof anti-Semitic thought, language or actions.

    I arrived at the private viewing for "The Passion," held in Washington, DC and
    greeted some familiar faces. The environment was typically Washingtonian, with
    people greeting you with a smile but seeming to look beyond you, having an
    agenda beyond the words. The film was very briefly ntroduced,without fanfare,
    and then the room darkened. From the gripping opening scene in the
    Garden of Gethsemane, to the very human and tender portrayal of theearthly
    Ministry of Jesus, through the betrayal, the arrest, the scourging, theway of
    the cross, the encounter with the thieves, the surrender on the Cross, until
    the final scene in the empty tomb, this was not simply a movie; it was an
    encounter, unlike anything I have ever experienced.

    In addition to being a masterpiece of film-making and an artistic triumph, "The
    Passion" evoked more deep reflection, sorrow and emotional reaction within me
    than anything since my wedding, my ordination or the birth of my children.
    Frankly, I will never be the same.

    When the film concluded, this "invitation only" gathering of "movers and
    shakers" in Washington, DC were shaking indeed, but this time from sobbing. I
    am not sure there was a dry eye in the place. The crowd that had been
    glad-handing before the film was now eerily silent. No one could speak because
    words were woefully inadequate. We had experienced a kind of art that is a
    rarity in life, the kind that makes heaven touch earth.

    One scene in the film has now been forever etched in my mind. A brutalized,
    wounded Jesus was soon to fall again under the weight of the cross. His mother
    had made her way along the Via Della Rosa. As she ran to him, she flashed back
    to a memory of Jesus as a child, falling in the dirt road outside of their
    home. Just as she reached to protect him from the fall, she was now reaching
    to touch his wounded adult face. Jesus looked at her with intensely probing and
    passionately loving eyes (and at all of us through the screen) and said

    "Behold I make all things new." These are words taken from the last Book Of
    the New Testament,t he Book of Revelations. Suddenly, the purpose of the pain
    was so clear and the wounds, that earlier in the film had been too difficult to
    see in His face, His back, indeed all over His body, became intensely
    beautiful.

    They had been borne voluntarily for love. At the end of the film, after
    we had all had a chance to recover, a question and answer period ensued.
    The unanimous praise for the film, from a rather diverse crowd, was as
    astounding as the compliments were effusive. The questions included the
    one question that seems to follow this film, even though it has not yet
    even been released. "Why is this film considered by some to be 'anti-Semitic?'

    " Frankly, having now experienced (you do not "view" this film) "the Passion"
    it is a question that is impossible to answer. A law professor whom I admire
    sat in front of me. He raised his hand and responded "After watching this film,
    I do not understand how anyone can insinuate that it even remotely presents
    that the Jews killed Jesus. It doesn't." He continued "It made me realize that
    my sins killed Jesus"
    I agree. There is not a scintilla of anti-Semitism to be found anywhere in
    this
    powerful film. If there were, I would be among the first to decry it. It
    faithfully tells the Gospel story in a dramatically beautiful, sensitive and
    profoundly engaging way. Those who are alleging otherwise have either not seen
    the film or have another agenda behind their protestations.

    This is not a "Christian" film, in the sense that It will appeal only to those
    who identify themselves as followers of Jesus Christ. It is a deeply human,
    beautiful story that will deeply touch all men and women.
    It is a profound work of art. Yes, its producer is a Catholic Christian and
    thankfully has remained faithful to the Gospel text; if that is no longer
    acceptable behavior then we are all in trouble. History demands that we remain
    faithful to the story and Christians have a right to tell it. After all, we
    believe that It is the greatest story ever told and that its message is for all
    men and women.
    The greatest right is the right to hear the truth.
    We would all be well advised to remember that the Gospel narratives to
    which "The Passion" is so faithful were written by Jewish men who
    followed a Jewish Rabbi whose life and teaching have forever changed the
    history of the world. The problem is not the message but those who have
    distorted it and used it for hate rather than love. The solution is not to
    censor the message, but rather to promote the kind of gift of love that is Mel
    Gibson's film making masterpiece, "The Passion." It should be seen by as many
    people as possible. I intend to do everything I can to make sure that is the
    case. I am passionate about "The Passion."

    Please copy this and send it on to all your friends to let them know
    about this film so that all go see it when it comes out.
    P.S. From Julie: My daughter, Kristin, tells me they learned at her
    church Youth Group that Mel Gibson stated he did not appear in his own
    movie, by his choice, with one exception: It is Gibson's hands seen
    nailing Jesus to the cross. Gibson said he wanted to do that because it
    was indeed his own hands that nailed Jesus to the cross (along with all
    of ours.)
    ======

    God works Miracles /Trust in Him

    Jan

  2. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A group of us are going to see this movie. Maybe you saw the Primetime


    feature

    Quoted message said:

    with Mel Gibson, Monday night?

    The focus is not to place blame, but rather to show what Jesus Christ, son


    of

    Quoted message said:

    God, was willing to go through to save us all from our sins.

    ..........................................
    Paul Harvey Comments on "The Passion" by Mel Gibson
    Paul Harvey's words:
    I really did not know what to expect................

    Jan, if you have read the review why on earth are you going to the movie?
    You always rely on abstracts instead of complete text articles. I don't get
    it.

    carabelli

  3. carabelli said:


    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A group of us are going to see this movie. Maybe you saw the Primetime


    feature

    Quoted message said:

    with Mel Gibson, Monday night?

    The focus is not to place blame, but rather to show what Jesus Christ, son


    of

    Quoted message said:

    God, was willing to go through to save us all from our sins.

    ..........................................
    Paul Harvey Comments on "The Passion" by Mel Gibson
    Paul Harvey's words:
    I really did not know what to expect................

    Jan, if you have read the review why on earth are you going to the movie?
    You always rely on abstracts instead of complete text articles. I don't get
    it.

    carabelli

    An excellent point.

    I must have missed the part about alt.med though.

    --

    Take out the G'RBAGE to reply
    [email hidden]

  4. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A group of us are going to see this movie.

    Do you realize that movie is rated R for violence? Remember to
    take your barf bag!

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe you saw the Primetime feature
    with Mel Gibson, Monday night?

    I wonder if Mel will pray to St Jude that Jan will stop posting her
    anti-semitic thoughts to MHA?

    Quoted message said:


    The focus is not to place blame, but rather to show what Jesus Christ, son


    of

    Quoted message said:

    God, was willing to go through to save us all from our sins.

    That story is a farce, Jan. It's an abhorrent abominable fairy tale
    having one group of people kill off another group's diety to
    villify the other group. What better way to trash the other group
    (other than blood libel) than having that group kill your god's son?
    Don't you get it?
    It's a LIE!
    They MADE IT UP!

    Quoted message said:


    ..........................................
    Paul Harvey Comments on "The Passion" by Mel Gibson


    [...]

    Come on, Paul, when will you give us the "real" Rest of the Story?

  5. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A group of us are going to see this movie. Maybe you saw the Primetime


    feature

    Quoted message said:

    with Mel Gibson, Monday night?

    The focus is not to place blame, but rather to show what Jesus Christ, son


    of

    Quoted message said:

    God, was willing to go through to save us all from our sins.

    http://www.adl.org/Interfaith/gibson_trigger.asp

  6. "carabelli" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A group of us are going to see this movie. Maybe you saw the Primetime


    feature

    Quoted message said:

    with Mel Gibson, Monday night?

    The focus is not to place blame, but rather to show what Jesus Christ,


    son

    Quoted message said:

    of

    Quoted message said:

    God, was willing to go through to save us all from our sins.

    ..........................................
    Paul Harvey Comments on "The Passion" by Mel Gibson
    Paul Harvey's words:
    I really did not know what to expect................

    Jan, if you have read the review why on earth are you going to the movie?
    You always rely on abstracts instead of complete text articles. I don't


    get

    Quoted message said:

    it.

    And..she knows the ending....

  7. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: The Passion
    From: "Nana Weedkiller" [email hidden]
    Date: 2/19/2004 1:28 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A group of us are going to see this movie.

    Do you realize that movie is rated R for violence? Remember to
    take your barf bag!

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe you saw the Primetime feature
    with Mel Gibson, Monday night?

    I wonder if Mel will pray to St Jude that Jan will stop posting her
    anti-semitic thoughts to MHA?

    Quoted message said:


    The focus is not to place blame, but rather to show what Jesus Christ, son


    of

    Quoted message said:

    God, was willing to go through to save us all from our sins.

    That story is a farce, Jan. It's an abhorrent abominable fairy tale
    having one group of people kill off another group's diety to
    villify the other group. What better way to trash the other group
    (other than blood libel) than having that group kill your god's son?
    Don't you get it?
    It's a LIE!
    They MADE IT UP!

    May God and Jesus forgive those who have been deceived by Satan.

    Jan

  8. [email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    A group of us are going to see this movie. Maybe you saw the Primetime feature
    with Mel Gibson, Monday night?

    I plan on seeing the movie as well, but what does this have to do with Alt Med?

    Mark, MD

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Mark) said:

    [email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    A group of us are going to see this movie. Maybe you saw the Primetime
    feature
    with Mel Gibson, Monday night?

    I plan on seeing the movie as well, but what does this have to do with Alt
    Med?

    Absolutely nothing.

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

  10. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: The Passion
    From: [email hidden] (Mark)
    Date: 2/19/2004 4:32 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    [email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    A group of us are going to see this movie. Maybe you saw the Primetime


    feature

    Quoted message said:

    with Mel Gibson, Monday night?

    I plan on seeing the movie as well, but what does this have to do with Alt
    Med?

    Mark, MD

    Jesus Christ has to do with all aspects of life, health and happiness.

    I am surprised you didn't know that.

    Jan

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: The Passion
    From: [email hidden] (Mark)
    Date: 2/19/2004 4:32 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    [email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    A group of us are going to see this movie. Maybe you saw the Primetime


    feature

    Quoted message said:

    with Mel Gibson, Monday night?

    I plan on seeing the movie as well, but what does this have to do with Alt
    Med?

    Mark, MD

    Jesus Christ has to do with all aspects of life, health and happiness.

    But discussions of movies about Him don't have anything to do with
    alternative medicine.

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mark said:

    [email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    A group of us are going to see this movie. Maybe you saw the Primetime feature
    with Mel Gibson, Monday night?

    I plan on seeing the movie as well, but what does this have to do
    with Alt Med?

    Nothing. But Jan never lets being off-topic stop her. Shucks, it's
    not even health-related this time and she still posted it.

    By the way, the movie was the cover story in last week's Newsweek,
    which discussed a number of historical inaccuracies and some
    potientially serious distortions.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  13. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: The Passion
    From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
    Date: 2/19/2004 6:14 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mark said:

    [email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    A group of us are going to see this movie. Maybe you saw the Primetime


    feature

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    with Mel Gibson, Monday night?

    I plan on seeing the movie as well, but what does this have to do
    with Alt Med?

    Nothing. But Jan never lets being off-topic stop her. Shucks, it's
    not even health-related this time and she still posted it.

    Oh, boo hoo hoo.

    Quoted message said:

    By the way, the movie was the cover story in last week's Newsweek,
    which discussed a number of historical inaccuracies and some
    potientially serious distortions.

    ...........................................
    Paul Harvey Comments on "The Passion" by Mel Gibson
    Paul Harvey's words:
    I really did not know what to expect. I was thrilled to have been
    Invited to a private viewing of Mel Gibson's film "The Passion," but I
    had also read all the cautious articles and spin. I grew up in a Jewish town
    and Owe much of my own faith journey to the influence. I have a life
    long, deeply held aversion to anything that might even indirectly encourage
    any formof anti-Semitic thought, language or actions.

    I arrived at the private viewing for "The Passion," held in Washington, DC and
    greeted some familiar faces. The environment was typically Washingtonian, with
    people greeting you with a smile but seeming to look beyond you, having an
    agenda beyond the words. The film was very briefly ntroduced,without fanfare,
    and then the room darkened. From the gripping opening scene in the
    Garden of Gethsemane, to the very human and tender portrayal of theearthly
    Ministry of Jesus, through the betrayal, the arrest, the scourging, theway of
    the cross, the encounter with the thieves, the surrender on the Cross, until
    the final scene in the empty tomb, this was not simply a movie; it was an
    encounter, unlike anything I have ever experienced.

    In addition to being a masterpiece of film-making and an artistic triumph, "The
    Passion" evoked more deep reflection, sorrow and emotional reaction within me
    than anything since my wedding, my ordination or the birth of my children.
    Frankly, I will never be the same.

    When the film concluded, this "invitation only" gathering of "movers and
    shakers" in Washington, DC were shaking indeed, but this time from sobbing. I
    am not sure there was a dry eye in the place. The crowd that had been
    glad-handing before the film was now eerily silent. No one could speak because
    words were woefully inadequate. We had experienced a kind of art that is a
    rarity in life, the kind that makes heaven touch earth.

    One scene in the film has now been forever etched in my mind. A brutalized,
    wounded Jesus was soon to fall again under the weight of the cross. His mother
    had made her way along the Via Della Rosa. As she ran to him, she flashed back
    to a memory of Jesus as a child, falling in the dirt road outside of their
    home. Just as she reached to protect him from the fall, she was now reaching
    to touch his wounded adult face. Jesus looked at her with intensely probing and
    passionately loving eyes (and at all of us through the screen) and said

    "Behold I make all things new." These are words taken from the last Book Of
    the New Testament,t he Book of Revelations. Suddenly, the purpose of the pain
    was so clear and the wounds, that earlier in the film had been too difficult to
    see in His face, His back, indeed all over His body, became intensely
    beautiful.

    They had been borne voluntarily for love. At the end of the film, after
    we had all had a chance to recover, a question and answer period ensued.
    The unanimous praise for the film, from a rather diverse crowd, was as
    astounding as the compliments were effusive. The questions included the
    one question that seems to follow this film, even though it has not yet
    even been released. "Why is this film considered by some to be 'anti-Semitic?'

    " Frankly, having now experienced (you do not "view" this film) "the Passion"
    it is a question that is impossible to answer. A law professor whom I admire
    sat in front of me. He raised his hand and responded "After watching this film,
    I do not understand how anyone can insinuate that it even remotely presents
    that the Jews killed Jesus. It doesn't." He continued "It made me realize that
    my sins killed Jesus"
    I agree. There is not a scintilla of anti-Semitism to be found anywhere in
    this
    powerful film. If there were, I would be among the first to decry it. It
    faithfully tells the Gospel story in a dramatically beautiful, sensitive and
    profoundly engaging way. Those who are alleging otherwise have either not seen
    the film or have another agenda behind their protestations.

    This is not a "Christian" film, in the sense that It will appeal only to those
    who identify themselves as followers of Jesus Christ. It is a deeply human,
    beautiful story that will deeply touch all men and women.
    It is a profound work of art. Yes, its producer is a Catholic Christian and
    thankfully has remained faithful to the Gospel text; if that is no longer
    acceptable behavior then we are all in trouble. History demands that we remain
    faithful to the story and Christians have a right to tell it. After all, we
    believe that It is the greatest story ever told and that its message is for all
    men and women.
    The greatest right is the right to hear the truth.
    We would all be well advised to remember that the Gospel narratives to
    which "The Passion" is so faithful were written by Jewish men who
    followed a Jewish Rabbi whose life and teaching have forever changed the
    history of the world. The problem is not the message but those who have
    distorted it and used it for hate rather than love. The solution is not to
    censor the message, but rather to promote the kind of gift of love that is Mel
    Gibson's film making masterpiece, "The Passion." It should be seen by as many
    people as possible. I intend to do everything I can to make sure that is the
    case. I am passionate about "The Passion."

    Please copy this and send it on to all your friends to let them know
    about this film so that all go see it when it comes out.
    P.S. From Julie: My daughter, Kristin, tells me they learned at her
    church Youth Group that Mel Gibson stated he did not appear in his own
    movie, by his choice, with one exception: It is Gibson's hands seen
    nailing Jesus to the cross. Gibson said he wanted to do that because it
    was indeed his own hands that nailed Jesus to the cross (along with all
    of ours.)
    ======

    God works Miracles /Trust in Him

    Jan

  14. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A group of us are going to see this movie. Maybe you saw the Primetime


    feature

    Quoted message said:

    with Mel Gibson, Monday night?

    The focus is not to place blame, but rather to show what Jesus Christ, son


    of

    Quoted message said:

    God, was willing to go through to save us all from our sins.

    Jan

    The controversy about this movie seems to be whether it is offensive to the
    Jews. The answer must be left up to the Jews. If they are offended, it is.
    Period.

    --Rich

  15. "Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A group of us are going to see this movie. Maybe you saw the Primetime


    feature

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    with Mel Gibson, Monday night?

    I plan on seeing the movie as well, but what does this have to do with Alt


    Med?

    It is an alternative report on reality. See Stone Phillips report tonight(?)
    on this.

  16. "Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A group of us are going to see this movie. Maybe you saw the Primetime


    feature

    Quoted message said:

    with Mel Gibson, Monday night?

    The focus is not to place blame, but rather to show what Jesus Christ,


    son

    Quoted message said:

    of

    Quoted message said:

    God, was willing to go through to save us all from our sins.

    Jan

    The controversy about this movie seems to be whether it is offensive to


    the

    Quoted message said:

    Jews. The answer must be left up to the Jews. If they are offended, it is.
    Period.

    It is far more than offensive. I posted the URL for Abe Foxman's commentary
    on the movie. Read those words.

  17. "Mark Probert-February 20, 2004" <Mark [email hidden]>
    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A group of us are going to see this movie. Maybe you saw the Primetime


    feature

    Quoted message said:

    with Mel Gibson, Monday night?

    The focus is not to place blame, but rather to show what Jesus Christ,


    son

    Quoted message said:

    of

    Quoted message said:

    God, was willing to go through to save us all from our sins.

    Jan

    The controversy about this movie seems to be whether it is offensive to


    the

    Quoted message said:

    Jews. The answer must be left up to the Jews. If they are offended, it


    is.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Period.

    It is far more than offensive. I posted the URL for Abe Foxman's


    commentary

    Quoted message said:

    on the movie. Read those words.

    Medical professionals are taught, "Pain is whatever the patient SAYS it is."

    So the movie is painful to Jews. The question is, is it morally acceptable
    for me to go see the film, or am I obligated to stay at home to punish Mel
    Gibson and Icon Productions with my wallet?

    --Rich

  18. "Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mark Probert-February 20, 2004" <Mark [email hidden]>
    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > A group of us are going to see this movie. Maybe you saw the


    Primetime

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    feature
    > with Mel Gibson, Monday night?
    >
    > The focus is not to place blame, but rather to show what Jesus


    Christ,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    son

    Quoted message said:

    of
    > God, was willing to go through to save us all from our sins.
    >
    >
    > Jan

    The controversy about this movie seems to be whether it is offensive


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the

    Quoted message said:

    Jews. The answer must be left up to the Jews. If they are offended, it


    is.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Period.

    It is far more than offensive. I posted the URL for Abe Foxman's


    commentary

    Quoted message said:

    on the movie. Read those words.

    Medical professionals are taught, "Pain is whatever the patient SAYS it


    is."

    Quoted message said:


    So the movie is painful to Jews. The question is, is it morally acceptable
    for me to go see the film, or am I obligated to stay at home to punish Mel
    Gibson and Icon Productions with my wallet?

    I will probably go see it. I do not bleeive in boycotts. I want to be able
    to express my views to all who will listen, including SAG, and The Academy.
    For that to be most effective, I feel I have to see the movie.

  19. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: The Passion
    From: "Nana Weedkiller" [email hidden]
    Date: 2/19/2004 1:28 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A group of us are going to see this movie.

    Do you realize that movie is rated R for violence? Remember to
    take your barf bag!

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe you saw the Primetime feature
    with Mel Gibson, Monday night?

    I wonder if Mel will pray to St Jude that Jan will stop posting her
    anti-semitic thoughts to MHA?

    Quoted message said:


    The focus is not to place blame, but rather to show what Jesus Christ,


    son

    Quoted message said:
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    of

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    God, was willing to go through to save us all from our sins.

    That story is a farce, Jan. It's an abhorrent abominable fairy tale
    having one group of people kill off another group's diety to
    villify the other group. What better way to trash the other group
    (other than blood libel) than having that group kill your god's son?
    Don't you get it?
    It's a LIE!
    They MADE IT UP!

    May God and Jesus forgive those who have been deceived by Satan.

    It's all a made up fairy tale. Please discard your hatred; stop using
    your bible to bash and bait others. It's unbecoming of any religiosity.
    Try to grow up and become an adult human.

  20. Nana Weedkiller said:

    It's all a made up fairy tale. Please discard your hatred; stop using
    your bible to bash and bait others. It's unbecoming of any religiosity.
    Try to grow up and become an adult human.

    "Don't cast your pearls before swine."

    Just my paraphrased biblical advice ;-]]

    "religiosity"; a quite nice coinage.

    Carry on, sister.

    WB
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