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  1. "PedalChick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    OK, I am thoroughly SICK of all this Ullrich this, Armstrong that what if Tour de France [censored].
    Give me something interesting R.B.R! Go away stupid newbie twirps!

    Where the hell is Jame Carney when you need him? I want some pro inside gossip. Oh, yeah, Jame is
    out representing the good ol' U S of A at track worlds. Is there anyone else on the team this
    year? How could we go from being first in the team standings of the track world cup last year to
    having nobody in the top 10 of anything yet. Yeah, BMX-ers. Great.

    So, O'Neill crashed out of 'Toona today? Or will he start? Leiswyn crashed and broke his chain and
    couldn't get team support because the car was up the road with the break. COOL! Can't wait for his
    next diary. I bet he was thrilled.

    Dudes, I'm going to the SFGP in Sept. They have a women's race this year. I hear the Pro guys are
    putting triples on. Yeah, like I am gonna drop $300 bucks into a Dura Ace triple for one race. Not
    on my salary. Still, four blocks of 18% grade? I am gonna die.

    Dear Ms. Dumbass -

    Last year the men avoided the paperboy effect by putting on 28+.

    No triples. If some of the guys are planning on using them this year, they are either seriously
    misinformed or seriously underprepared.

    As for the women - ack. That's going to be interesting since their power to weight ratio is lower. I
    predict carnage, right away. The spread of talent is so much wider in the women's race that there
    will be big chunks getting dropped in the first lap (and not getting back on).

    It will be a crowd-pleaser though. Last year LANCE got the biggest cheers, of course, but the next
    biggest cheers were reserved for those who looked like they were suffering the most, ie. guys off
    the back. Time for the women to strap in and get ready for the rock star experience of their lives -
    this will be an instance where having less top-level talent will actually benefit the women.

    K. Gringioni

  2. PedalChick said:

    Give me something interesting R.B.R! Go away stupid newbie twirps!

    How about the Tour of Wallonia. That sounds exciting! trworg.bemenu trw.php

    Didier

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  3. OK, I am thoroughly SICK of all this Ullrich this, Armstrong that what if Tour de France [censored]. Give
    me something interesting R.B.R! Go away stupid newbie twirps!

    Where the hell is Jame Carney when you need him? I want some pro inside gossip. Oh, yeah, Jame is
    out representing the good ol' U S of A at track worlds. Is there anyone else on the team this year?
    How could we go from being first in the team standings of the track world cup last year to having
    nobody in the top 10 of anything yet. Yeah, BMX-ers. Great.

    So, O'Neill crashed out of 'Toona today? Or will he start? Leiswyn crashed and broke his chain and
    couldn't get team support because the car was up the road with the break. COOL! Can't wait for his
    next diary. I bet he was thrilled.

    Dudes, I'm going to the SFGP in Sept. They have a women's race this year. I hear the Pro guys are
    putting triples on. Yeah, like I am gonna drop $300 bucks into a Dura Ace triple for one race. Not
    on my salary. Still, four blocks of 18% grade? I am gonna die.

    yeah. so. let's talk about something interesting now, ok?

  4. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Pedalchick
    OK, I am thoroughly SICK of all this Ullrich this, Armstrong that what if Tour de France [censored]. Give
    me something interesting R.B.R! Go away stupid newbie twirps!

    Where the hell is Jame Carney when you need him? I want some pro inside gossip. Oh, yeah, Jame is
    out representing the good ol' U S of A at track worlds. Is there anyone else on the team this year?
    How could we go from being first in the team standings of the track world cup last year to having
    nobody in the top 10 of anything yet. Yeah, BMX-ers. Great.

    So, O'Neill crashed out of 'Toona today? Or will he start? Leiswyn crashed and broke his chain and
    couldn't get team support because the car was up the road with the break. COOL! Can't wait for his
    next diary. I bet he was thrilled.

    Dudes, I'm going to the SFGP in Sept. They have a women's race this year. I hear the Pro guys are
    putting triples on. Yeah, like I am gonna drop $300 bucks into a Dura Ace triple for one race. Not
    on my salary. Still, four blocks of 18% grade? I am gonna die.

    yeah. so. let's talk about something interesting now, ok?

    I'll be looking for you Pedalchick. They changed the name though, this year it's going to be called the T-Mobile Invitational (or something similar). Those climbs are BRUTAL.

  5. (PedalChick) said:

    OK, I am thoroughly SICK of all this Ullrich this, Armstrong that what if Tour de France [censored]. Give
    me something interesting R.B.R! Go away stupid newbie twirps!

    Where the hell is Jame Carney when you need him? I want some pro inside gossip. Oh, yeah, Jame is
    out representing the good ol' U S of A at track worlds.

    From the brief clip of the Scratch Race I saw today J-me had a go from about 15 laps out, but no one
    went with him, and as he got caught it all went off and he was left at the back of the bunch.

    Regards! Stephen

  6. Quoted message said:

    From: "Kurgan Gringioni" [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    As for the women - ack. That's going to be interesting since their power to weight ratio is lower.
    I predict carnage, right away. The spread of talent is so much wider in the women's race that there
    will be big chunks getting dropped in the first lap (and not getting back on).

    It will be a crowd-pleaser though. Last year LANCE got the biggest cheers, of course, but the next
    biggest cheers were reserved for those who looked like they were suffering the most, ie. guys off
    the back. Time for the women to strap in and get ready for the rock star experience of their lives
    - this will be an instance where having less top-level talent will actually benefit the women.

    K. Gringioni

    Yeah, they can all get off the back and suffer longer when Lyne and Genevieve go off the front.
    Unfortunately I think Lyne is too big to hold on in this one. Jeanson walks away. Bill C

  7. "TritonRider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: "Kurgan Gringioni" [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    As for the women - ack. That's going to be interesting since their power


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    weight ratio is lower. I predict carnage, right away. The spread of


    talent

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is so much wider in the women's race that there will be big chunks


    getting

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    dropped in the first lap (and not getting back on).

    It will be a crowd-pleaser though. Last year LANCE got the biggest


    cheers,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of course, but the next biggest cheers were reserved for those who looked like they were
    suffering the most, ie. guys off the back. Time for the


    women

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to strap in and get ready for the rock star experience of their lives -


    this

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    will be an instance where having less top-level talent will actually


    benefit

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the women.

    K. Gringioni

    Yeah, they can all get off the back and suffer longer when Lyne and


    Genevieve

    Quoted message said:

    go off the front. Unfortunately I think Lyne is too big to hold on in this


    one.

    Quoted message said:

    Jeanson walks away.

    That is one race where her light weight will be a very significant advantage.

  8. OK, dudes, COOL, yeah - if that's not lexicographically interesting...now try repeating the same
    words while riding a bike. OOPS, that would be too easy and the other riders would easily
    understand, yeecks!

    "PedalChick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    OK, I am thoroughly SICK of all this Ullrich this, Armstrong that what if Tour de France [censored].
    Give me something interesting R.B.R! Go away stupid newbie twirps!

    Where the hell is Jame Carney when you need him? I want some pro inside gossip. Oh, yeah, Jame is
    out representing the good ol' U S of A at track worlds. Is there anyone else on the team this
    year? How could we go from being first in the team standings of the track world cup last year to
    having nobody in the top 10 of anything yet. Yeah, BMX-ers. Great.

    So, O'Neill crashed out of 'Toona today? Or will he start? Leiswyn crashed and broke his chain and
    couldn't get team support because the car was up the road with the break. COOL! Can't wait for his
    next diary. I bet he was thrilled.

    Dudes, I'm going to the SFGP in Sept. They have a women's race this year. I hear the Pro guys are
    putting triples on. Yeah, like I am gonna drop $300 bucks into a Dura Ace triple for one race. Not
    on my salary. Still, four blocks of 18% grade? I am gonna die.

    yeah. so. let's talk about something interesting now, ok?

  9. "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >

    Quoted message said:

    Dear Ms. Dumbass -

    Cool. Henry called me a dumbass. Does this mean I'm in da club?

    Quoted message said:

    Last year the men avoided the paperboy effect by putting on 28+.

    Quoted message said:

    No triples. If some of the guys are planning on using them this year, they are either seriously
    misinformed or seriously underprepared.

    OK, Hank, have you ridden Fillmore? If you can haul your huge carcass up it in a 28, I guess I can.

    Quoted message said:

    As for the women - ack. That's going to be interesting since their power to weight ratio is lower.
    I predict carnage, right away. The spread of talent is so much wider in the women's race that
    there will be big chunks getting dropped in the first lap (and not getting back on).

    Yesh. Surely. But didn't that happen in the men's race as well?

    Quoted message said:

    It will be a crowd-pleaser though. Last year LANCE got the biggest cheers, of course, but the next
    biggest cheers were reserved for those who looked like they were suffering the most, ie. guys off
    the back. Time for the women to strap in and get ready for the rock star experience of their lives
    - this will be an instance where having less top-level talent will actually benefit the women.

    Hopefully since we start at 7:30 the fans will at least be sober. yeah... right.

    Quoted message said:


    K. Gringioni

  10. PedalChick said:

    Dudes, I'm going to the SFGP in Sept. They have a women's race this year. I hear the Pro guys are
    putting triples on. Yeah, like I am gonna drop $300 bucks into a Dura Ace triple for one race. Not
    on my salary. Still, four blocks of 18% grade? I am gonna die.

    The cheap solution to that is a 27 cog, or a 30 cog and a shimano MTB derailleur (and a longer
    chain). works fine, takes very little time to switch.

    Although the race is defined by the hills, a lot of the big loop of the course is flat (and I think
    there is a headwind). So it isn't necessarily a solo ride-away, altho with Jeanson you never know.

    Quoted message said:

    yeah. so. let's talk about something interesting now, ok?

  11. "Emory" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in


    message > >

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    No triples. If some of the guys are planning on using them this year,


    they

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    are either seriously misinformed or seriously underprepared.

    OK, Hank, have you ridden Fillmore? If you can haul your huge carcass up it in a 28, I
    guess I can.

    Nope, haven't ridden up Fillmore.

    The report I have from the men in the race last year is that they all put on the Frisbees in the
    back. The year before guys came with 23 and 25 and you'd see everyone doing the paperboy. Not so
    last year - almost everyone went straight.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    As for the women - ack. That's going to be interesting since their power


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    weight ratio is lower. I predict carnage, right away. The spread of


    talent

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is so much wider in the women's race that there will be big chunks


    getting

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    dropped in the first lap (and not getting back on).

    Yesh. Surely. But didn't that happen in the men's race as well?

    It didn't really splinter until the very end.

    I think the women will splinter early.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It will be a crowd-pleaser though. Last year LANCE got the biggest


    cheers,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of course, but the next biggest cheers were reserved for those who


    looked

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    like they were suffering the most, ie. guys off the back. Time for the


    women

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to strap in and get ready for the rock star experience of their lives -


    this

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    will be an instance where having less top-level talent will actually


    benefit

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the women.

    Hopefully since we start at 7:30 the fans will at least be sober. yeah... right.

    Why do you want them do be sober?

    More beers, more cheers.

    BTW, if you're by yourself at any point in the race, whether off the back or off the front, play it
    up a little. Make it look like you're really, really suffering. The crowd turns it up a few extra
    notches for the racers who look like they're having their teeth drilled.

  12. [email hidden] (PedalChick) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    OK, I am thoroughly SICK of all this Ullrich this, Armstrong that what if Tour de France [censored].
    Give me something interesting R.B.R! Go away stupid newbie twirps!

    Where the hell is Jame Carney when you need him? I want some pro inside gossip.

    I agree completely. And also, where the hell is Erik Saunders? I wish he would post some more. He
    writes some funny stuff, IMHO.

    And while I'm at it, it would make lurking more enjoyable if the following people were also a
    little more active in RBR: RVD, Dan Connelly, anyone from Belgium, Ilan Vardi, Jason Waddell, and
    Dave Lettieri.

    Thank you very much!

    Mark Fennell

  13. Quoted message said:

    And while I'm at it, it would make lurking more enjoyable if the following people were also a
    little more active in RBR: RVD, Dan Connelly, anyone from Belgium, Ilan Vardi, Jason Waddell, and
    Dave Lettieri.

    Thank you very much!

    Mark Fennell

    Notice how he didn't mention you Henry...

    thanks, jason

    ps: he didn't mention that ass Kunich either.

  14. "Jason Waddell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    And while I'm at it, it would make lurking more enjoyable if the following people were also a
    little more active in RBR: RVD, Dan Connelly, anyone from Belgium, Ilan Vardi, Jason Waddell, and
    Dave Lettieri.

    Thank you very much!

    Mark Fennell

    Notice how he didn't mention you Henry...

    Dumbass -

    Use your killfile.

  15. "Emory" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in


    message > >

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Dear Ms. Dumbass -

    Cool. Henry called me a dumbass. Does this mean I'm in da club?

    He did? Emory == PedalChick? I guess only you would know that.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Last year the men avoided the paperboy effect by putting on 28+.

    Quoted message said:

    No triples. If some of the guys are planning on using them this year,


    they

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    are either seriously misinformed or seriously underprepared.

    OK, Hank, have you ridden Fillmore? If you can haul your huge carcass up it in a 28, I
    guess I can.

    Myself, having climbed Fillmore several times in a 39x23 in my large frame, but likely not anywhere
    near race pace, yes you can do it without a triple. If you use a triple then you're not racing.

    Most of the guys (contenders) Big-Ring Fillmore, then go to the small ring the final block. Some
    Big-Ring Taylor all the way up even!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    As for the women - ack. That's going to be interesting since their power


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    weight ratio is lower. I predict carnage, right away. The spread of


    talent

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is so much wider in the women's race that there will be big chunks


    getting

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    dropped in the first lap (and not getting back on).

    Yesh. Surely. But didn't that happen in the men's race as well?

    Not on the first lap like the women will do, become completely shelled, and it boils down to just a
    pack of 6-7 immediately.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It will be a crowd-pleaser though. Last year LANCE got the biggest


    cheers,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of course, but the next biggest cheers were reserved for those who


    looked

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    like they were suffering the most, ie. guys off the back. Time for the


    women

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to strap in and get ready for the rock star experience of their lives -


    this

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    will be an instance where having less top-level talent will actually


    benefit

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the women.

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