Really bad news

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(Davide Tosi) said:

Denis Zanette died today at age 32 of a heart attack while during a visit at the dentist Among his
biggest achievement a Giro stage and a 3rd place at the Ronde van Vlaanderen in 2001

That's terrible.

But...heart attack, at age 32? Is this just a tragic circumstance, or did someone's number come up
on an EPO promissory note?

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"Davide Tosi" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Denis Zanette died today at age 32 of a heart attack while during a visit at the dentist

This is indeed bad news. Sorry to hear it.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

(Davide Tosi) said:

Denis Zanette died today at age 32 of a heart attack while during a

visit

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at the dentist Among his biggest achievement a Giro stage and a 3rd place at the Ronde

van

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Vlaanderen in 2001

That's terrible.

But...heart attack, at age 32? Is this just a tragic circumstance, or did someone's number come up
on an EPO promissory note?

Possibly an allergic reaction to the anesthetic.

Andy Coggan

In article <[email hidden]>, "Andy Coggan"

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"Ryan Cousineau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>,

(Davide Tosi) said:

Denis Zanette died today at age 32 of a heart attack while during a

visit

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at the dentist Among his biggest achievement a Giro stage and a 3rd place at the Ronde

van

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Vlaanderen in 2001

That's terrible.

But...heart attack, at age 32? Is this just a tragic circumstance, or did someone's number come
up on an EPO promissory note?

Possibly an allergic reaction to the anesthetic.

Andy Coggan

Cyclenews said he was there for a cleaning, so no anesthetic was involved.

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tanx, Howard

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"Andy Coggan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<6zLT9.3771

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Possibly an allergic reaction to the anesthetic.

There was no anaesthetic. He was having his teeth cleaned.

cheers, Jeff

In article <[email hidden]>, "Andy Coggan"

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"Ryan Cousineau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>,

(Davide Tosi) said:

Denis Zanette died today at age 32 of a heart attack while during a

visit

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at the dentist Among his biggest achievement a Giro stage and a 3rd place at the Ronde

van

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Vlaanderen in 2001

That's terrible.

But...heart attack, at age 32? Is this just a tragic circumstance, or did someone's number come
up on an EPO promissory note?

Possibly an allergic reaction to the anesthetic.

Andy Coggan

Mitral Valve Prolapse? This is why some people have to take prophylactic antibiotics before every
dental visit (with or without anestesia). Bacteria from mouth gets in the bloodstream...

Mike G. -

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It happens. This 21 year old athlete almost died.

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Mark U.

"Howard Kveck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>, "Andy

Coggan"

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"Ryan Cousineau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (Davide Tosi) wrote:

> Denis Zanette died today at age 32 of a heart attack while during a

visit

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> at the dentist Among his biggest achievement a Giro stage and a 3rd place at the

Ronde

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van

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> Vlaanderen in 2001

That's terrible.

But...heart attack, at age 32? Is this just a tragic circumstance, or did someone's number
come up on an EPO promissory note?

Possibly an allergic reaction to the anesthetic.

Andy Coggan

Cyclenews said he was there for a cleaning, so no anesthetic was involved.

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tanx, Howard

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But...heart attack, at age 32? Is this just a tragic circumstance, or did someone's number come
up on an EPO promissory note?

Possibly an allergic reaction to the anesthetic.

Maybe a super sexy hygenist did him in?

Sad news though. My condolonces.

wasn't the Liquigas team heavily investigated at the Giro in 2001.....not to imply
anything of course

Peter

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"Andy Coggan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<6zLT9.3771

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Possibly an allergic reaction to the anesthetic.

There was no anaesthetic. He was having his teeth cleaned.

cheers, Jeff

(Mike Gladu) said:

In article <[email hidden]>, "Andy Coggan"

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"Ryan Cousineau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (Davide Tosi) wrote:

> Denis Zanette died today at age 32 of a heart attack while during a

visit

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> at the dentist Among his biggest achievement a Giro stage and a 3rd place at the Ronde

van

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> Vlaanderen in 2001

That's terrible.

But...heart attack, at age 32? Is this just a tragic circumstance, or did someone's number come
up on an EPO promissory note?

Possibly an allergic reaction to the anesthetic.

Andy Coggan

Mitral Valve Prolapse? This is why some people have to take prophylactic antibiotics before every
dental visit (with or without anestesia). Bacteria from mouth gets in the bloodstream...

Mike G.

True but it doesn't cause instant death.

Sparhawk

In article said:

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> > Denis Zanette died today at age 32 of a heart attack while during a
visit
> > at the dentist Among his biggest achievement a Giro stage and a 3rd place at the

Ronde

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van
> > Vlaanderen in 2001
>
> That's terrible.
>
> But...heart attack, at age 32? Is this just a tragic circumstance, or did someone's number
> come up on an EPO promissory note?

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It happens. This 21 year old athlete almost died.

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Oh yeah, and I didn't want to libel the poor guy if he was just another very unlucky athlete (whose
members have included several pro athletes and jogging guru James Fixx), but the early death of a
pro cyclist due to heart failure always raises one question, and it's not a pretty one.

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Ryan Cousineau said:

and jogging guru James Fixx), but the early death of a pro cyclist due to heart failure always
raises one question, and it's not a pretty one.

Would that question be: "Did he have a pre-existing heart condition?" STF

I just got off the phone with Hein Verbruggen and he said that the autopsy will definitely reveal a
pre-existing heart condition, much like the ones that took all those Dutch cyclists in the late 80s
and early 90s. BTW, Hein says he still mourns Marc DeMeyer's early death from the big one. In an
effort to turn the clock back technologically, Hein will be seeking a "Texas" type solution to the
problem. Much like the Hour Record technology roll-back, he plans to ask the teams to voluntarily
limit their drug use in the coming season to amphetamines and steroid inhalers and topical
ointments.

Brian Lafferty

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Ryan Cousineau said:

and jogging guru James Fixx), but the early death of a pro cyclist due to heart failure always
raises one question, and it's not a pretty one.

Would that question be: "Did he have a pre-existing heart condition?" STF

In article <[email hidden]>, Stewart Fleming

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Ryan Cousineau said:

and jogging guru James Fixx), but the early death of a pro cyclist due to heart failure always
raises one question, and it's not a pretty one.

Would that question be: "Did he have a pre-existing heart condition?" STF

Maybe he had an irregular heartbeat. Didn't Eric Devlaminck have a son who died of a heart attack? I
seem to remember he was a cyclocrosser and was told not to race anymore and he continued racing, and
he had a heart attack and died.

ANd there was a dutch cyclist, Bert Ooosterbosch, who died of a heart attack also at 32. He was
retired from the pros by then but was planning a comeback when he died.

"Marlene Blanshay" <[email hidden]> skrev i en meddelelse
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Maybe he had an irregular heartbeat. Didn't Eric Devlaminck have a son who died of a heart attack?
I seem to remember he was a cyclocrosser and was told not to race anymore and he continued racing,
and he had a heart attack and died.

ANd there was a dutch cyclist, Bert Ooosterbosch, who died of a heart attack also at 32. He was
retired from the pros by then but was planning a comeback when he died.

The danish handball player Anja Andersen had to stop her career due to heartproblems. During a game
her HR would periodically go way over 200, IIRC

So it could be heartproblems. Indees sad news, regardless of doping issues.

HB

Marlene Blanshay said:

ANd there was a dutch cyclist, Bert Ooosterbosch, who died of a heart attack also at 32. He was
retired from the pros by then but was planning a comeback when he died.

Possibly not the best example to use if we are looking for explanations other than EPO use for an
early death due to heart attack... STF

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Marlene Blanshay said:

ANd there was a dutch cyclist, Bert Ooosterbosch, who died of a heart attack also at 32. He was
retired from the pros by then but was planning

a

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comeback when he died.

Possibly not the best example to use if we are looking for explanations

other

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than EPO use for an early death due to heart attack... STF

Steroid abuse comes to mind. Bernard Thevenet admitted that his steroid abuse was causing his
kidneys and heart problems.

Brian Lafferty

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But...heart attack, at age 32? Is this just a tragic circumstance, or did someone's number come up
on an EPO promissory note?

More or less, what i thought when I saw the news. Greg

He may have had a heart murmur - believe it's called Mitral Valve Prolapse (sp?) -

Prior to a cleaning, the dentist will normally prescribe penicillin or anti-biotic, to prevent
bacteria from entering the system and attacking the dysfunctional valve (sorry, don't really
understand the physiology here).

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In article <[email hidden]>, "Andy

Coggan"

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"Ryan Cousineau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (Davide Tosi) wrote:

> Denis Zanette died today at age 32 of a heart attack while during a

visit

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> at the dentist Among his biggest achievement a Giro stage and a 3rd place at the

Ronde

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van

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> Vlaanderen in 2001

That's terrible.

But...heart attack, at age 32? Is this just a tragic circumstance, or did someone's number
come up on an EPO promissory note?

Possibly an allergic reaction to the anesthetic.

Andy Coggan

Cyclenews said he was there for a cleaning, so no anesthetic was involved.

--
tanx, Howard

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