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TR: Lakeland Wildcamp Grasmere/Codale Tarn camp/Grasmere/Loughrigg Fell/Ambleside

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  1. Just back in ....... so a short TR

    Sat - Grasmere to Easedale Tarn, a quick break, and then onto Codale Tarn
    for rough camp Sat night.
    Very quiet throughout the day - where did all the bank holiday tourists go
    to? Not that I'm complaining.

    A gusty night, and a very wet start to Sunday (Argos pro action tent gets
    10/10 for performance btw)
    Abandoned all plans for further walking once I hit the ridge intending to go
    towards Sergeant Man.
    High winds and driven rain. Progress very difficult. First time I've been
    stopped in my tracks whilst trying to walk downhill! Later heard reports of
    75 mph winds. Counted 6 people moving around Stickle Tarn by 11:00.
    Despite the conditions I still passed people 'n kids heading up from Dungeon
    Ghyll with inadequate clothing/gear. Spoke to 1 man (breathless 20 mins from
    the foot of DG, trainers/packamac, trailing child) indicating that he had
    some way to go and really should cut his losses for the day. Blank look -
    well at least I tried.

    Bussed it back to Gramsere ending up in YHA , 3/4 mile from where I started
    the day before (Boo Hoo) and drenched.
    <Wife impressed back home, she was having a BBQ in the sunshine ;-( >

    Hung off on Monday, watching the weather. Typical - clear and sunny.

    Tues - to Ambleside crossing Loughrigg Fell via L. Terrace/Rydal Cave and
    then an 'interesting' vertical diversion up through the bracken - not a good
    idea.

    Another clear day, but unfortunately moving away from the hills, and towards
    the trip back home.

    Side notes
    1. First time I've tried the train/bus option from the south coast - it
    works very well and cheap enough to have me planning some more short solo
    breaks in the not too distant future.
    2. YHA non members policy - definitely dragging in an interesting cross mix
    of punters, but with an associated downside from the cheap B&B brigade who
    think it's a good idea to noisily hit the dorms after the pubs close.

    Bryan
    Dorzet

  2. "Bryan Hall" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Despite the conditions I still passed people 'n kids heading up from


    Dungeon

    Quoted message said:

    Ghyll with inadequate clothing/gear. Spoke to 1 man (breathless 20


    mins from

    Quoted message said:

    the foot of DG, trainers/packamac, trailing child) indicating that he


    had

    Quoted message said:

    some way to go and really should cut his losses for the day. Blank


    look -

    Quoted message said:

    well at least I tried.

    That would be a bit like Quasar tent owners trying to persuade you not
    to be so silly as to try and pitch your laughably inadequate £15 mickey
    mouse tent half way up a hill. In reality you know it's an ok tent and
    trainer and pacamac owners probably know that they'll be perfectly ok
    wearing such stuff even if you haven't sussed it yet.

  3. AndyP said:

    That would be a bit like Quasar tent owners trying to persuade you not
    to be so silly as to try and pitch your laughably inadequate £15 mickey
    mouse tent half way up a hill. In reality you know it's an ok tent and
    trainer and pacamac owners probably know that they'll be perfectly ok
    wearing such stuff even if you haven't sussed it yet.

    Not a true reflection or comparison?

    How many PA1 tent owners will end up calling MRT because of their
    choice in tent? Compared with the number of ill-prepared walkers?

    David.

  4. Quoted message said:


    AndyP said:

    That would be a bit like Quasar tent owners trying to persuade you not
    to be so silly as to try and pitch your laughably inadequate £15 mickey
    mouse tent half way up a hill. In reality you know it's an ok tent and
    trainer and pacamac owners probably know that they'll be perfectly ok
    wearing such stuff even if you haven't sussed it yet.

    Not a true reflection or comparison?

    How many PA1 tent owners will end up calling MRT because of their
    choice in tent? Compared with the number of ill-prepared walkers?

    Well if they had bought this year's tent they would be a lot worse off
    and might end up getting wet and need to call out MRT. It's just luck
    that the old PA1 was a good bit of kit.

    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

  5. so is this tent..
    http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=3801&productId=147471&clickfrom=name
    not the PA1 from last year some of us (obviously) missed out on?

    Peter

    Phil Cook said:
    Quoted message said:
    AndyP said:

    That would be a bit like Quasar tent owners trying to persuade you not
    to be so silly as to try and pitch your laughably inadequate £15 mickey
    mouse tent half way up a hill. In reality you know it's an ok tent and
    trainer and pacamac owners probably know that they'll be perfectly ok
    wearing such stuff even if you haven't sussed it yet.

    Not a true reflection or comparison?

    How many PA1 tent owners will end up calling MRT because of their
    choice in tent? Compared with the number of ill-prepared walkers?

    Well if they had bought this year's tent they would be a lot worse off
    and might end up getting wet and need to call out MRT. It's just luck
    that the old PA1 was a good bit of kit.

  6. Peter said:
    Phil Cook said:

    [email hidden] wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    How many PA1 tent owners will end up calling MRT because of their
    choice in tent? Compared with the number of ill-prepared walkers?

    Well if they had bought this year's tent they would be a lot worse off
    and might end up getting wet and need to call out MRT. It's just luck
    that the old PA1 was a good bit of kit.


    so is this tent..
    http://www.argos.co.uk/ catalogue number 3409172
    not the PA1 from last year some of us (obviously) missed out on?

    No it isn't.

    This is the old PA1 http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk/misc/2.jpg

    ....on an old poster's site :-)
    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

  7. ...and a damn fine piece of kit it is too
    ;-)

    "Phil Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Peter said:
    Phil Cook said:

    [email hidden] wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >How many PA1 tent owners will end up calling MRT because of their
    >choice in tent? Compared with the number of ill-prepared walkers?

    Well if they had bought this year's tent they would be a lot worse off
    and might end up getting wet and need to call out MRT. It's just luck
    that the old PA1 was a good bit of kit.


    so is this tent..
    http://www.argos.co.uk/ catalogue number 3409172
    not the PA1 from last year some of us (obviously) missed out on?

    No it isn't.

    This is the old PA1 http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk/misc/2.jpg

    ...on an old poster's site :-)
    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

  8. Bryan Hall said:

    ..and a damn fine piece of kit it is too
    ;-)

    Price for performance unbeatable!

    David.

  9. Glad you brought this subject up....

    Do you say something to people who are SO badly equipped half wayup a
    fell... It happened to me coming off Calf Crag on way to HelmCrag...
    Bloke in white flat cap and nylon shirt ... no evidence of weather
    protection or water (it was fairly warm ... a couple of weeks ago)..
    He asked me if we were on Calf Crag.... No, I said, this is Gibson
    Knott.... You're about a third of the way....
    He and his wife (partner) both had some reasonanble footwear on...

    And coming off Blencathra last Sunday... Familywith no map (just a
    hardback book with the walk in!) and 3 young kids in wellies... they
    had got as far as the pass to Souther Fell off Scales Fell... They
    were still looking at all the way up...

    What I'm getting at is... Should you say "stop... you are at risk"

    HELP please...
    MalJ

  10. <[email hidden]> wrote

    AndyP said:

    That would be a bit like Quasar tent owners trying to persuade you not
    to be so silly as to try and pitch your laughably inadequate £15


    mickey

    Quoted message said:

    mouse tent half way up a hill. In reality you know it's an ok tent


    and

    Quoted message said:

    trainer and pacamac owners probably know that they'll be perfectly ok
    wearing such stuff even if you haven't sussed it yet.

    Not a true reflection or comparison?

    How many PA1 tent owners will end up calling MRT because of their
    choice in tent? Compared with the number of ill-prepared walkers?

    The wearing of trainers and cheap pacamacs up a Lake District hill in
    summer hardly signifies an ill prepared walker. Ill prepared walkers
    come in all sorts of attire. I've pointed people dressed as an Ellis
    Brigham window display in the right direction on several occasions
    despite probably wearing the dreaded trainers and having no map or
    compass myself. (God knows why they thought I'd know the way come to
    think of it).

  11. "MalJ" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Do you say something to people who are SO badly equipped half wayup a
    fell... It happened to me coming off Calf Crag on way to HelmCrag...
    Bloke in white flat cap and nylon shirt ... no evidence of weather
    protection or water (it was fairly warm ... a couple of weeks ago)..
    He asked me if we were on Calf Crag.... No, I said, this is Gibson
    Knott.... You're about a third of the way....
    He and his wife (partner) both had some reasonanble footwear on...

    And coming off Blencathra last Sunday... Familywith no map (just a
    hardback book with the walk in!) and 3 young kids in wellies... they
    had got as far as the pass to Souther Fell off Scales Fell... They
    were still looking at all the way up...

    What I'm getting at is... Should you say "stop... you are at risk"

    A gentle hint like "Wow the weather's really bad up there" or "There's
    some good rockclimbs on that cliff face your heading for" would be
    better than "Oi numpty in the trainers get your ass back down the hill
    now before I grass you up to the mountain rescue blokes". You can't
    tell how sensible people are just by looking at them. In most popular
    areas of the Lake District it's just a question of following the path to
    the top of the hill and back down and you're never very far from
    civilisation or usually even other walkers for long anyway so where's
    the need for all the specialist gear and equipment. Anyone who's got a
    modicum of sense can follow a path for a bit and then turn around and
    follow it back if the weather gets too unpleasant for them.

  12. agreed - i'd prefer to think i at least tried (tactfully) to save a MRT call
    out later in the day

    "AndyP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "MalJ" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Do you say something to people who are SO badly equipped half wayup a
    fell... It happened to me coming off Calf Crag on way to HelmCrag...
    Bloke in white flat cap and nylon shirt ... no evidence of weather
    protection or water (it was fairly warm ... a couple of weeks ago)..
    He asked me if we were on Calf Crag.... No, I said, this is Gibson
    Knott.... You're about a third of the way....
    He and his wife (partner) both had some reasonanble footwear on...

    And coming off Blencathra last Sunday... Familywith no map (just a
    hardback book with the walk in!) and 3 young kids in wellies... they
    had got as far as the pass to Souther Fell off Scales Fell... They
    were still looking at all the way up...

    What I'm getting at is... Should you say "stop... you are at risk"

    A gentle hint like "Wow the weather's really bad up there" or "There's
    some good rockclimbs on that cliff face your heading for" would be
    better than "Oi numpty in the trainers get your ass back down the hill
    now before I grass you up to the mountain rescue blokes". You can't
    tell how sensible people are just by looking at them. In most popular
    areas of the Lake District it's just a question of following the path to
    the top of the hill and back down and you're never very far from
    civilisation or usually even other walkers for long anyway so where's
    the need for all the specialist gear and equipment. Anyone who's got a
    modicum of sense can follow a path for a bit and then turn around and
    follow it back if the weather gets too unpleasant for them.

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