OT: America

Dave Smith said:

That may be, but there are consequences to going to war. Saddam was contained.

He was contained?Look at the oil for food scandal.

Quoted message said:

The administration did not sell the war as a war of liberation for the Iraqi people,

Both Dems & Reps stated that Saddam had to be removed, a government
needed to change, what did you think that meant?

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and a lot of people were well aware of the fact that those people were
not much interested in being liberated by the US.

I did not know that you spoke for the Iraqis citizens. It seems to me
that a lot of Iraqis are voting for self rule.

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Overthrowing Saddam was certain to end up in chaos, and that is exactly what happened.

And who is causing the chaos? The insurgents are trying to stop the
Iraqis from self determination.
If they are fighting the Americans, why do they bomb the Iraqis.

Note to terrorist, the Americans are in combat gear wit h a
red,white,& blue flag on their shoulder.

The insurgents want to run Iraq, they don't want the citizens to vote.

[email hidden] (AlleyGator) wrote in
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What baffles me more than anything is this: a few
months ago a poster named Nancree posted something in a similar
vein, but from a conservative viewpoint. She was viciously (i
repeat, VICIOUSLY) attacked by a large number of people. So
apparently, you are free to say anything you want as long as the
majority agrees with you.

Actually, anyone is free to say anything, but they have to accept
that there may be some criticism. You might check back. Nancree has
tossed some fairly vicious (in her mind) bombs my way, usually out of
context, because she has, in my opinion, misunderstood my intentions
at various times. But then again, so have others. And what is more
annoying is that I actually helped Nancree to acclimatize to Usenet
when she first came on. So uch for gratitude. But rather than
engaging in recriminative exchanges, I have chosen to ignore her
entirely. She can say whatever she wants, I simply ignore it.

If you had no racist intent, I apologize. I thought from your note
that you were objecting to the OP posting here because of his
background. Perhaps that was because quite a few other notes of a
similar tone in this thread definitely HAD racist intent, although
the posters will probably go to any lengths to deny that. I
acknowledge that I simply lumped you in with the others, and if your
claims are correct, unfairly so.

--

"Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

Dostoevski, The Idiot

Michel Boucher said:

If you had no racist intent, I apologize. I thought from your note
that you were objecting to the OP posting here because of his
background. Perhaps that was because quite a few other notes of a
similar tone in this thread definitely HAD racist intent, although
the posters will probably go to any lengths to deny that. I
acknowledge that I simply lumped you in with the others, and if your
claims are correct, unfairly so.

Thank you Michel. I promise, I had no racial or ethnic overtones in
mind, and I really didn't disagree with the content of the original
post. All would probably have been well if I'd just kept my stupid
thoughts to myself. Oh, well. Live and learn, I guess.

--
The Doc says my brain waves closely match those of a crazed ferret.
At least now I have an excuse.

[email hidden] (AlleyGator) wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Michel Boucher said:

If you had no racist intent, I apologize. I thought from your note
that you were objecting to the OP posting here because of his
background. Perhaps that was because quite a few other notes of a
similar tone in this thread definitely HAD racist intent, although
the posters will probably go to any lengths to deny that. I
acknowledge that I simply lumped you in with the others, and if your
claims are correct, unfairly so.

Thank you Michel. I promise, I had no racial or ethnic overtones in
mind, and I really didn't disagree with the content of the original
post. All would probably have been well if I'd just kept my stupid
thoughts to myself. Oh, well. Live and learn, I guess.

On the other hand, we were able to sort this out in a civilized fashion
and that's a win-win situation :-)

--

"Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

Dostoevski, The Idiot

AlleyGator said:

Michel Boucher said:

If you had no racist intent, I apologize. I thought from your note
that you were objecting to the OP posting here because of his
background. Perhaps that was because quite a few other notes of a
similar tone in this thread definitely HAD racist intent, although
the posters will probably go to any lengths to deny that. I
acknowledge that I simply lumped you in with the others, and if your
claims are correct, unfairly so.

Thank you Michel. I promise, I had no racial or ethnic overtones in
mind, and I really didn't disagree with the content of the original
post. All would probably have been well if I'd just kept my stupid
thoughts to myself. Oh, well. Live and learn, I guess.

Alley why should you keep your thought to your self, just because
someone else misunderstood what you said? You have a right to your
opinions just as I do and Michel has.
Michel and I have both let our thoughts be know, mostly on opposite
sides of a question, yet I would never dream of telling him he can't
speak. And if I did, he would not respond favorably. Rightfully so.

Pan Ohco said:

Alley why should you keep your thought to your self, just because
someone else misunderstood what you said? You have a right to your
opinions just as I do and Michel has.
Michel and I have both let our thoughts be know, mostly on opposite
sides of a question, yet I would never dream of telling him he can't
speak. And if I did, he would not respond favorably. Rightfully so.

Thank you, friend. I really didn't even disagree with the original
poster, I just sort of let my thoughts about common courtesy and stuff
like that. I probably should have just kept my mouth shut. If you
have a Thanksgiving where you are, I hope you had a great holiday,

--
The Doc says my brain waves closely match those of a crazed ferret.
At least now I have an excuse.

"rosie" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

On the other hand, we were able to sort this out in a civilized
fashion and that's a win-win situation :-)

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Michel, the person who started this thread, Mr Muhammed, has
cross
posted it to 4 or five other newsgroups, including, Nascar, poker,
Don Imus and Art bell. These are the only posts he has made. I
think he is simplay A thanksgiving Troll.

Thanks but you really shouldn't tattletale on others.

--

"Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

Dostoevski, The Idiot

Thanks but you really shouldn't tattletale on others.

--

I am surprised that you would tell me what not to do. you could have
looked it up if you were interested I guess. So I assume it was not
important to you. Too bad, coulda , woulda shoulda...

Rosie

"rosie" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

I am surprised that you would tell me what not to do. you could have
looked it up if you were interested I guess. So I assume it was not
important to you. Too bad, coulda , woulda shoulda...

And just why is it so important to you?

"AlleyGator" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

That's funny. From what I see, this is the first post you have EVER
made to any usenet group.

No, what is funny is that you felt it was important enough to research the
poster to see if they'd ever posted before.

"rosie" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:1133047136.864045.256210
@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

Quoted message said:

Thanks but you really shouldn't tattletale on others.

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I am surprised that you would tell me what not to do.

I am reminding you of what the rules of good behaviour are. You can do
what you want with that.

Quoted message said:

you could have
looked it up if you were interested I guess. So I assume it was not
important to you. Too bad, coulda , woulda shoulda...

Why would I care what he posted to other groups? Perhaps he was
curious. Or maybe I'm just not paranoid enough for you :-)

--

"Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

Dostoevski, The Idiot

"Michel Boucher" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

When you check up on people, are you looking for something in
particular or just browsing? Do you suspect them of something
beforehand or have we all been scanned as a "precaution"?

It kinda sounds like he practices a Usenet version of racial profiling. If
he finds someone who falls into a certain category (hasn't posted before or
has posted very little), he can justify suspecting they are guilty of
whatever offense of which he imagines them to be guilty. 🙂

Michel Boucher said:

Hate to come back at you, but I must ask the question. Why do you
need to know "who you're dealing with"? This is an informal
discussion group. It's neither a business venture, nor an academic
peer review group, nor a police lineup. How do you know that what
you see is what is really there? A lot of people spoof their
identities on Usenet. A lot of people change identities on Usenet
regularly. I have had the same identity for the entire time I've
been here. I post my name. What about you? :-)

When you check up on people, are you looking for something in
particular or just browsing? Do you suspect them of something
beforehand or have we all been scanned as a "precaution"?

Could be just curiosity. Reading groups on Google lets you 'search for
other posts by this author' with one button click. Easy to do, take
whatever you find at your own risk. If you know any people who date
actively, ask them if they ever Google the names of new people they
meet, and if they've ever found anything interesting. You'll be
surprised. -aem

Denny Wheeler said:

Muhammed said:

"rosie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I think you ought to leave and go live in another country, maybe
France.
Rosie

When I first came to America, I drove a limousine for 2 years. I worked that
job as well as other jobs and saved money so I could buy an automobile
dealership. Today, I have 3 automobile dealerships. So I am very much rooted
in this country. I cannot simply leave and go live somewhere else. I would
prefer to stay and help improve this country.

And those dealerships are? Names and locales, please. (that's kind
of 'put up or shut up'--but given that this newsgroup's name is
rec.food.cooking, what DID prompt you to post your whining here?)

Hmm, two years as a limo hack and he saved enough to afford a
multi-million dollar dealership... tips must have been fabulous... most
limo drivers are lucky to afford their dry cleaning bill. This putz
sounds exactly like the putz who claims to own many restaurants... and
amazingly the same personna, contributes nothing positive of their own,
but [censored]-loads of disparaging commentary.

I don't really care to have them attempt to convince us their lies are
true. Personally I think these worthless douche bags should instead
simply drop dead... may their gods of terminal illness visit upon them
and theirs... tongue cancer is what their filthy lying mouths deserve.

Sheldon Goddamn

Cynthia said:

"Michel Boucher" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

When you check up on people, are you looking for something in
particular or just browsing? Do you suspect them of something
beforehand or have we all been scanned as a "precaution"?

It kinda sounds like he practices a Usenet version of racial profiling. If
he finds someone who falls into a certain category (hasn't posted before or
has posted very little), he can justify suspecting they are guilty of
whatever offense of which he imagines them to be guilty. 🙂

"Usenet Racial Profiling" Oh come on. Using the race card when you
don't know the race of the people involved?
The original poster could be a WASP teenager, instead of the arab he
pre ported to be. And Ally could be as black as the ace of spades.

"aem" <[email hidden]> wrote:
I didn't use google, I used Microsoft's netscan. I do find it
interesting that the only people complaining are "unknowns" - Gad,
where did they all crawl out of suddenly? Everybody get a bunch of
free aol cd's?

Quoted message said:

Michel Boucher said:

Hate to come back at you, but I must ask the question. Why do you
need to know "who you're dealing with"? This is an informal
discussion group. It's neither a business venture, nor an academic
peer review group, nor a police lineup. How do you know that what
you see is what is really there? A lot of people spoof their
identities on Usenet. A lot of people change identities on Usenet
regularly. I have had the same identity for the entire time I've
been here. I post my name. What about you? :-)

When you check up on people, are you looking for something in
particular or just browsing? Do you suspect them of something
beforehand or have we all been scanned as a "precaution"?

Could be just curiosity. Reading groups on Google lets you 'search for
other posts by this author' with one button click. Easy to do, take
whatever you find at your own risk. If you know any people who date
actively, ask them if they ever Google the names of new people they
meet, and if they've ever found anything interesting. You'll be
surprised. -aem

--
The Doc says my brain waves closely match those of a crazed ferret.
At least now I have an excuse.

Cynthia said:

"Michel Boucher" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

When you check up on people, are you looking for something in
particular or just browsing? Do you suspect them of something
beforehand or have we all been scanned as a "precaution"?

It kinda sounds like he practices a Usenet version of racial profiling. If
he finds someone who falls into a certain category (hasn't posted before or
has posted very little), he can justify suspecting they are guilty of
whatever offense of which he imagines them to be guilty. 🙂

Yeah, Cynthia - I racially profile everyone I speak to - who the hell
are you anyway? Obviously someone who doesn't know [censored] about
anything. Go back to your cave. Idiot.

--
The Doc says my brain waves closely match those of a crazed ferret.
At least now I have an excuse.

"Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote:
For once in my life I agree with you Sheldon. WTF is with all these
people suddenly showing up with their BS on thanksgiving. Free aol
cd's? Who knows.

Quoted message said:

Denny Wheeler said:

Muhammed said:

"rosie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
>I think you ought to leave and go live in another country, maybe
> France.
> Rosie

When I first came to America, I drove a limousine for 2 years. I worked that
job as well as other jobs and saved money so I could buy an automobile
dealership. Today, I have 3 automobile dealerships. So I am very much rooted
in this country. I cannot simply leave and go live somewhere else. I would
prefer to stay and help improve this country.

And those dealerships are? Names and locales, please. (that's kind
of 'put up or shut up'--but given that this newsgroup's name is
rec.food.cooking, what DID prompt you to post your whining here?)

Hmm, two years as a limo hack and he saved enough to afford a
multi-million dollar dealership... tips must have been fabulous... most
limo drivers are lucky to afford their dry cleaning bill. This putz
sounds exactly like the putz who claims to own many restaurants... and
amazingly the same personna, contributes nothing positive of their own,
but [censored]-loads of disparaging commentary.

I don't really care to have them attempt to convince us their lies are
true. Personally I think these worthless douche bags should instead
simply drop dead... may their gods of terminal illness visit upon them
and theirs... tongue cancer is what their filthy lying mouths deserve.

Sheldon Goddamn

--
The Doc says my brain waves closely match those of a crazed ferret.
At least now I have an excuse.

Michel Boucher said:

If you had no racist intent, I apologize. I thought from your note
that you were objecting to the OP posting here because of his
background. Perhaps that was because quite a few other notes of a
similar tone in this thread definitely HAD racist intent, although
the posters will probably go to any lengths to deny that. I
acknowledge that I simply lumped you in with the others, and if your
claims are correct, unfairly so.

--

"Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

Dostoevski, The Idiot

Michel, I had no racial or ethnic intent in mind at all, and I'm still
waiting, after numerous pleas, for someone to come back and tell me
why my post was interpreted that way. If you have any insight into
this, I would appreciate hearing from you. Once again, I believe I
made the statement that anyone in the world is more than welcome here
- how could that possibly be seen as a claim to exclusivity? I was
serious - anybody in the world IS more than welcome here - I don't
have any claim to RFC, I'm just another occasional poster passing
through like everyone else.

--
The Doc says my brain waves closely match those of a crazed ferret.
At least now I have an excuse.

[email hidden] (AlleyGator) wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

I didn't use google, I used Microsoft's netscan. I do find it
interesting that the only people complaining are "unknowns" - Gad,
where did they all crawl out of suddenly? Everybody get a bunch
of free aol cd's?

To be fair, YOU were complaining too :-)

--

"Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

Dostoevski, The Idiot