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  1. "MartinM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    John B said:
    Mike K Smith said:

    John B wrote On 12/08/05 17:16,:

    > Popham is indeed a nice stop - its just up the road from me -
    > Whitchurch
    > is even closer ;-)
    > We often trundle out for a mug of tea and cake.
    > It is an airfield with a small and friendly cafe which has the
    > control
    > 'tower' (a sectioned off desk and some dials) just inside the
    > doorway.
    >
    > There are *very* few restrictions and you can wander around the
    > aircraft
    > at leisure. A lot of small planes and microlights use it.
    >
    > Its one of Hampshire's several 'hidden' tea stops, but it seems the
    > audaxers have now found it.

    Sounds like a real gem. We pass fairly close to it sometimes, but I've
    never thought of popping in for a cuppa. What are their opening hours?
    I
    presume the answer is more or less 'during daylight'.

    From early morning 'til teatime
    http://www.popham-airfield.co.uk/Index.htm

    Its the home of the Spitfire Club - an aircraft I'm presently designing a
    book to :-)

    The breakfasts are excellent and the atmosphere really laid back, not at
    all
    what you would expect from a private airfield.

    To whet your appetite:
    http://www.popham-airfield.co.uk/Cafeteria.htm

    John B

    I'm now doing the RR the week before so should be on for this; would be
    nice to meet up with some other urc'ers even if not doing the 115k, I
    would estimate we'll be there sometime between 1100-1230. I'm pretty
    sure Pam still accepts entries on the line.

    You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.

    Alan

  2. Alan Holmes said:


    "MartinM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm now doing the RR the week before so should be on for this; would be
    nice to meet up with some other urc'ers even if not doing the 115k, I
    would estimate we'll be there sometime between 1100-1230. I'm pretty
    sure Pam still accepts entries on the line.

    You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.

    Bollocks (tm). 72 miles in two and a half hours is 28.8 mph. Martin
    might be fast but he's no Sean Yates. And as it happens Sean Yates
    posted 22.30 for a 10 mile time trial on New Years Day. That's 26.7mph
    of ball busting, eyes out, heart bursting effort.

    Anyway AUK rules limit you to a maximum speed of 30 kph.

    Tim

  3. Tim Hall said:
    Alan Holmes said:


    "MartinM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm now doing the RR the week before so should be on for this; would be
    nice to meet up with some other urc'ers even if not doing the 115k, I
    would estimate we'll be there sometime between 1100-1230. I'm pretty
    sure Pam still accepts entries on the line.

    You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.

    Bollocks (tm). 72 miles in two and a half hours is 28.8 mph. Martin
    might be fast but he's no Sean Yates.

    well actually I'm neither; I was referring to the peleton's likely ETA
    at Popham if anyone wishes to join us.

  4. Tim Hall said:
    Alan Holmes said:


    "MartinM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm now doing the RR the week before so should be on for this; would be
    nice to meet up with some other urc'ers even if not doing the 115k, I
    would estimate we'll be there sometime between 1100-1230. I'm pretty
    sure Pam still accepts entries on the line.

    You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.

    Bollocks (tm). 72 miles in two and a half hours is 28.8 mph. Martin
    might be fast but he's no Sean Yates.

    well I'm neither ATM (see Poor Student thread)
    I was referring to the peleton's likely ETA at Popham

  5. in message <[email hidden]>, Tim Hall

    (') said:
    Alan Holmes said:

    You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.

    Bollocks (tm). 72 miles in two and a half hours is 28.8 mph.

    ....which is faster than the Tour de France peloton averages.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; For in much wisdom is much grief; and he that increaseth
    ;; knowledge increaseth sorrow.." - Ecclesiastes 1:18

  6. Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Tim Hall

    (') said:
    Alan Holmes said:

    You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.

    Bollocks (tm). 72 miles in two and a half hours is 28.8 mph.

    ...which is faster than the Tour de France peloton averages.

    Alan's just looking for an excuse to tell us (again) about his
    record-breaking feats. Might as well let him get it over with, then
    he'll go away again.

    <http://groups.google.com/group/uk.transport/msg/14b961fcc2e5e23f?dmode=source>

    James
    --
    James Annan
    see web pages for email
    http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/
    http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    MartinM () said:


    John B said:
    Mike K Smith said:

    John B wrote On 12/08/05 17:16,:

    > Popham is indeed a nice stop - its just up the road from me - Whitchurch
    > is even closer ;-)
    > We often trundle out for a mug of tea and cake.
    > It is an airfield with a small and friendly cafe which has the control
    > 'tower' (a sectioned off desk and some dials) just inside the doorway.
    >
    > There are *very* few restrictions and you can wander around the aircraft
    > at leisure. A lot of small planes and microlights use it.
    >
    > Its one of Hampshire's several 'hidden' tea stops, but it seems the
    > audaxers have now found it.

    Sounds like a real gem. We pass fairly close to it sometimes, but I've
    never thought of popping in for a cuppa. What are their opening hours? I
    presume the answer is more or less 'during daylight'.

    From early morning 'til teatime
    http://www.popham-airfield.co.uk/Index.htm

    Its the home of the Spitfire Club - an aircraft I'm presently designing a
    book to :-)

    The breakfasts are excellent and the atmosphere really laid back, not at all
    what you would expect from a private airfield.

    To whet your appetite:
    http://www.popham-airfield.co.uk/Cafeteria.htm

    John B

    I'm now doing the RR the week before so should be on for this; would be
    nice to meet up with some other urc'ers even if not doing the 115k, I
    would estimate we'll be there sometime between 1100-1230. I'm pretty
    sure Pam still accepts entries on the line.

    My entry is in. But then you knew that, or at least Martin did. Anyone
    else doing the Watership Down next Sunday?

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    We had that Maurits C. Escher in to do some building work once. I
    haven't been able to leave the house since.

  8. "Tim Hall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Alan Holmes said:


    "MartinM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm now doing the RR the week before so should be on for this; would be
    nice to meet up with some other urc'ers even if not doing the 115k, I
    would estimate we'll be there sometime between 1100-1230. I'm pretty
    sure Pam still accepts entries on the line.

    You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.

    Bollocks (tm). 72 miles in two and a half hours is 28.8 mph. Martin
    might be fast but he's no Sean Yates. And as it happens Sean Yates
    posted 22.30 for a 10 mile time trial on New Years Day. That's 26.7mph
    of ball busting, eyes out, heart bursting effort.

    One day, many years ago, I was cycling home from work, taking my time, not
    in a hurry, when a car drew up behind me and stayed there for a while, I
    began to get a little angry, but the car then drew alongside me, the driver
    shouted to me 'you travelling at 30 mph', I was NOT making any real effort
    to break the speed limit, just taking my time, so the person talking
    'bollocks' is you.

    I do wonder whether the bike had anything to do with the fact that I could
    cycle at a 'fast' rate, it was quite heavy, not like those which you could
    pick up with your little finger.

    So, the answer to being able to cycle fast, seems to be, get a heavy bike!

    Alan

    Quoted message said:


    Anyway AUK rules limit you to a maximum speed of 30 kph.

    Tim

  9. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Tim Hall

    (') said:
    Alan Holmes said:

    You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.

    Bollocks (tm). 72 miles in two and a half hours is 28.8 mph.

    ...which is faster than the Tour de France peloton averages.

    So, what does that say about the people who join in the race?

    Out of interest, when going on a hostelling holiday one year, I left home at
    two o'clock, intending to get to the hostel at about 7 o'clock, when I
    arrived the hostel was not open, I asked someone waiting why the ostel was
    closed, and the anwser wasthat it was 4.50, when I checked the distance, it
    was 84 miles, which meant I had averaged 29.5 mph, and you should bear in
    mind that I had two loaded pannier bags and a full saddle bag, which made
    the bike almost impossible to lift as it was so heavy.

    Alan

    Quoted message said:


    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; For in much wisdom is much grief; and he that increaseth
    ;; knowledge increaseth sorrow.." - Ecclesiastes 1:18

  10. Alan Holmes said:

    "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Tim Hall

    (') said:

    On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:29:32 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.

    Bollocks (tm). 72 miles in two and a half hours is 28.8 mph.

    ...which is faster than the Tour de France peloton averages.

    So, what does that say about the people who join in the race?

    Out of interest, when going on a hostelling holiday one year, I left home at
    two o'clock, intending to get to the hostel at about 7 o'clock, when I
    arrived the hostel was not open, I asked someone waiting why the ostel was
    closed, and the anwser wasthat it was 4.50, when I checked the distance, it
    was 84 miles, which meant I had averaged 29.5 mph, and you should bear in
    mind that I had two loaded pannier bags and a full saddle bag, which made
    the bike almost impossible to lift as it was so heavy.

    did you happen to pass a silver DeLorean on the way? ;-)

  11. MartinM said:
    Quoted message said:

    Out of interest, when going on a hostelling holiday one year, I left home at
    two o'clock, intending to get to the hostel at about 7 o'clock, when I
    arrived the hostel was not open, I asked someone waiting why the ostel was
    closed, and the anwser wasthat it was 4.50, when I checked the distance, it
    was 84 miles, which meant I had averaged 29.5 mph, and you should bear in
    mind that I had two loaded pannier bags and a full saddle bag, which made
    the bike almost impossible to lift as it was so heavy.

    did you happen to pass a silver DeLorean on the way? ;-)

    Great Scott!

    R.

  12. MartinM said:
    Alan Holmes said:

    "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Tim Hall
    ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

    > On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:29:32 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
    > <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >> You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.
    >
    > Bollocks (tm). 72 miles in two and a half hours is 28.8 mph.

    ...which is faster than the Tour de France peloton averages.

    So, what does that say about the people who join in the race?

    Out of interest, when going on a hostelling holiday one year, I left
    home at two o'clock, intending to get to the hostel at about 7
    o'clock, when I arrived the hostel was not open, I asked someone
    waiting why the ostel was closed, and the anwser wasthat it was
    4.50, when I checked the distance, it was 84 miles, which meant I
    had averaged 29.5 mph, and you should bear in mind that I had two
    loaded pannier bags and a full saddle bag, which made the bike
    almost impossible to lift as it was so heavy.

    did you happen to pass a silver DeLorean on the way? ;-)

    He did, but it accelerated as he was riding past, and disappeared in a puff
    of smoke.

    --
    Ambrose

  13. Alan Holmes said:


    One day, many years ago, I was cycling home from work, taking my time, not
    in a hurry, when a car drew up behind me and stayed there for a while, I
    began to get a little angry, but the car then drew alongside me, the driver
    shouted to me 'you travelling at 30 mph', I was NOT making any real effort
    to break the speed limit, just taking my time, so the person talking
    'bollocks' is you.

    Like when I was tailed by a bus in London who toild me I was doing
    'nearly 40'. Simple calculation based on cadence, gear and speed
    indicated that unbeknownst to me, by back wheel had near doubled in
    size.

    Then when I stopped to check, it had returned to it's normal size.
    Maybe I should patent it..

    ...d

  14. David Martin said:

    Like when I was tailed by a bus in London who toild me I was doing
    'nearly 40'. Simple calculation based on cadence, gear and speed
    indicated that unbeknownst to me, by back wheel had near doubled in
    size.

    Then when I stopped to check, it had returned to it's normal size.
    Maybe I should patent it..

    I'm afraid it's already patented, together with the device that causes
    lamp batteries to drain of all charge the day before the clocks go back.

    R.

  15. David Martin said:
    Alan Holmes said:


    One day, many years ago, I was cycling home from work, taking my
    time, not in a hurry, when a car drew up behind me and stayed there
    for a while, I began to get a little angry, but the car then drew
    alongside me, the driver shouted to me 'you travelling at 30 mph', I
    was NOT making any real effort to break the speed limit, just taking
    my time, so the person talking 'bollocks' is you.

    Like when I was tailed by a bus in London who toild me I was doing
    'nearly 40'. Simple calculation based on cadence, gear and speed
    indicated that unbeknownst to me, by back wheel had near doubled in
    size.

    One hopes the bus [driver?] misread its speedometer, due to concentrating on
    the road instead.

    --
    Ambrose

  16. Alan Holmes said:

    Out of interest, when going on a hostelling holiday one year, I left home at
    two o'clock, intending to get to the hostel at about 7 o'clock, when I
    arrived the hostel was not open, I asked someone waiting why the ostel was
    closed, and the anwser wasthat it was 4.50, when I checked the distance, it
    was 84 miles, which meant I had averaged 29.5 mph, and you should bear in
    mind that I had two loaded pannier bags and a full saddle bag, which made
    the bike almost impossible to lift as it was so heavy.

    You sure you didn't fall asleep on the way, and it was actually 4:50
    the next day?

    --
    Dave...

  17. Response to Alan Holmes:

    Quoted message said:

    I left home at
    two o'clock, intending to get to the hostel at about 7 o'clock, when I
    arrived the hostel was not open, I asked someone waiting why the ostel was
    closed, and the anwser wasthat it was 4.50, when I checked the distance, it
    was 84 miles, which meant I had averaged 29.5 mph

    I know what you mean; I had a bike computer like that once.

    --
    Mark, UK

    "There is no man so good, who, were he to submit all his thoughts and
    actions to the laws, would not deserve hanging ten times in his life."

  18. "Mark McNeill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Response to Alan Holmes:

    Quoted message said:

    I left home at
    two o'clock, intending to get to the hostel at about 7 o'clock, when I
    arrived the hostel was not open, I asked someone waiting why the ostel
    was
    closed, and the anwser wasthat it was 4.50, when I checked the distance,
    it
    was 84 miles, which meant I had averaged 29.5 mph

    I know what you mean; I had a bike computer like that once.

    This was before the days of computers!

    Alan

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Mark, UK

    "There is no man so good, who, were he to submit all his thoughts and
    actions to the laws, would not deserve hanging ten times in his life."

  19. "dkahn400" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Alan Holmes said:

    Out of interest, when going on a hostelling holiday one year, I left home
    at
    two o'clock, intending to get to the hostel at about 7 o'clock, when I
    arrived the hostel was not open, I asked someone waiting why the ostel
    was
    closed, and the anwser wasthat it was 4.50, when I checked the distance,
    it
    was 84 miles, which meant I had averaged 29.5 mph, and you should bear in
    mind that I had two loaded pannier bags and a full saddle bag, which made
    the bike almost impossible to lift as it was so heavy.

    You sure you didn't fall asleep on the way, and it was actually 4:50
    the next day?

    I sometimes pace cyclists to see what speeds they are travelling at, and
    it's surprising how fast some of them travel, it's very common to pace
    someone at 25 + mph

    But, of course, i cannot be sure my car speedometer is really very accurate!

    Alan

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Dave...

  20. Alan Holmes said:

    I sometimes pace cyclists to see what speeds they are travelling at, and
    it's surprising how fast some of them travel, it's very common to pace
    someone at 25 + mph

    FSVO common, the only time I see cyclists riding at that speed is on
    TT's

    Quoted message said:

    But, of course, i cannot be sure my car speedometer is really very accurate!

    sorry to disappoint you but you did not ever ride anywhere at 29.5 mph
    average; think back, reconsider the journey and it will become
    apparent.

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