Just a flesh wound!

Mike K Smith said:

A work colleague brought his recently-purchased Trice XL into work
today and offered interested parties the chance of a ride round the
car park.

I took it for a few laps and as I was coming back into the 'pits' he
said to me "the brakes are really good, keep the speed up and put them
on hard!". I did, but the left brake came on harder than the right and
suddenly my world tilted 45 degrees, rolled over, and I was pitched
onto the ground.

Luckily my waxed-cotton jacket took most of the force, but I managed
to graze my elbow. I'm sure one gets used to the risk of asymmetric
braking on a Trice, but isn't there a chance that this could happen
in an emergency stop?

BTW apart from the spill the Trice was great fun!

More to the point, is the trike okay?

Mike K Smith said:

A work colleague brought his recently-purchased Trice XL into work today
and offered interested parties the chance of a ride round the car park.

I took it for a few laps and as I was coming back into the 'pits' he
said to me "the brakes are really good, keep the speed up and put them
on hard!". I did, but the left brake came on harder than the right and
suddenly my world tilted 45 degrees, rolled over, and I was pitched onto
the ground.

Luckily my waxed-cotton jacket took most of the force, but I managed to
graze my elbow. I'm sure one gets used to the risk of asymmetric braking
on a Trice, but isn't there a chance that this could happen in an
emergency stop?

BTW apart from the spill the Trice was great fun!

Mike

not normally a problem. it makes it easy for sideways parking like that
(apply left brake and turn in to the left slightly whilst leaning
slightly forward. Rear wheel lifts a fraction and spins into parking slot.

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Simon Bennett said:

Mike K Smith wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

BTW apart from the spill the Trice was great fun!

More to the point, is the trike okay?

Luckily, yes. Funnily enough that was the first question one of the
rubberneckers asked.

Mike K Smith said:

Luckily my waxed-cotton jacket took most of the force, but I managed to
graze my elbow. I'm sure one gets used to the risk of asymmetric braking
on a Trice, but isn't there a chance that this could happen in an
emergency stop?

I've never managed it on mine (and I've done a few emergency stops).

I have flipped it, but that was when I deliberately put it in a
looooong fast sideways slide on some ice, and the leading front wheel
(travelling sideways) dropped into a pothole and stopped.

regards, Ian SMith
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Quoted message said:

Mike K Smith said:

Luckily my waxed-cotton jacket took most of the force, but I managed to
graze my elbow. I'm sure one gets used to the risk of asymmetric braking
on a Trice, but isn't there a chance that this could happen in an
emergency stop?

I've never managed it on mine (and I've done a few emergency stops).

I have flipped it, but that was when I deliberately put it in a
looooong fast sideways slide on some ice, and the leading front wheel
(travelling sideways) dropped into a pothole and stopped.

Not managed it on mine, either. can't say I want to manage it!

I was out on Mr Norbert Frosty this morning. It was *glorious* out there.
Cold, windy, but brilliant blue sky and bright sunshine. I loved it

Cheers, helen s

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Quoted message said:

Mike K Smith said:

Luckily my waxed-cotton jacket took most of the force, but I managed to
graze my elbow. I'm sure one gets used to the risk of asymmetric
braking
on a Trice, but isn't there a chance that this could happen in an
emergency stop?

I've never managed it on mine (and I've done a few emergency stops).

I have flipped it, but that was when I deliberately put it in a
looooong fast sideways slide on some ice, and the leading front wheel
(travelling sideways) dropped into a pothole and stopped.

Not managed it on mine, either. can't say I want to manage it!

I wasn't trying to manage it either, I was just doing what I was told!

Quoted message said:

I was out on Mr Norbert Frosty this morning. It was *glorious* out
there. Cold, windy, but brilliant blue sky and bright sunshine. I loved it

Lucky you!

Ian Smith said:

I've never managed it on mine (and I've done a few emergency stops).

Are disk brakes standard? This one had disks on the front wheels.

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Quoted message said:

Ian Smith said:

I've never managed it on mine (and I've done a few emergency stops).

Are disk brakes standard? This one had disks on the front wheels.

No - my IceT has drum brakes - it's the entry level model.

Cheers, helen s

Response to Mike K Smith:

Quoted message said:

I'm sure one gets used to the risk of asymmetric braking
on a Trice, but isn't there a chance that this could happen in an
emergency stop?

My Windcheetah has slightly asymmetric braking; I *could* wish it
didn't, but CBA to try to sort it out. I just take it into account when
braking.

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Mark, UK
"Without the aid of prejudice and custom, I should not be able to find
my way across the room."

Response to Ian Smith:

Quoted message said:

I have flipped it, but that was when I deliberately put it in a
looooong fast sideways slide on some ice, and the leading front wheel
(travelling sideways) dropped into a pothole and stopped.

I managed it with ease last winter, late at night in a deserted carpark
covered with packed snow: travelling sideways at some speed, I
discovered the space where a car had been parked when it had been
snowing.

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Mark, UK
"Common sense, to most people, is nothing more than their own opinions."

Mark McNeill said:

Response to Mike K Smith:

Quoted message said:

I'm sure one gets used to the risk of asymmetric braking on a
Trice, but isn't there a chance that this could happen in an
emergency stop?

My Windcheetah has slightly asymmetric braking; I *could* wish it
didn't, but CBA to try to sort it out. I just take it into account
when braking.

Do any trikes have hydraulic brakes on the front with one brake lever?
Wouldn't that inherently give symmetric braking?

Chris
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Chris Eilbeck

Mike K Smith said:

Ian Smith said:

I've never managed it on mine (and I've done a few emergency stops).

Are disk brakes standard? This one had disks on the front wheels.

On some. They are standard on the XL (at least, they were standard
when I bought mine). The current off-the-peg models have drums.

regards, Ian SMith
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Chris Eilbeck said:

Do any trikes have hydraulic brakes on the front with one brake lever?
Wouldn't that inherently give symmetric braking?

You either need a brake lever with a double-size piston, or have
reduced potential travel at the pads. Both these solutions can be
arranged, but actually I find separate braking no trouble.

In fact, asymmetric braking is useful - if cornering hardish and not
being too athletic in the seat, there's no point braking the inside
wheel - it's barely touching the ground (I tend to lean just enough so
the wheel doesn't lift away from the ground, but doesn't have any
weight on it either). Automatic symmetric brake force would lock the
wheel, and I prefer not to lock wheels unecesarily - it un-nerves
passers-by, can't help with tyre wear, and I think it unsettles the
trike.

Potentially, you'd need to add another brake system to comply with the
requirement for two systems. (Though actually, I have a third brake
anyway, so it's somewhat academic).

regards, Ian SMith
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Chris Eilbeck said:

Mark McNeill said:

Response to Mike K Smith:

Quoted message said:

I'm sure one gets used to the risk of asymmetric braking on a
Trice, but isn't there a chance that this could happen in an
emergency stop?

My Windcheetah has slightly asymmetric braking; I *could* wish it
didn't, but CBA to try to sort it out. I just take it into account
when braking.

Do any trikes have hydraulic brakes on the front with one brake lever?
Wouldn't that inherently give symmetric braking?

Yep, mine. No, it don't. But it should. The problems appaear to lie
in a combination of not so good set calipers and contamination. When
it's bad its *really* bad, I gave up trying to sort it out proper and
just rubbed a bit of chain gunk on the offending disc. As long as I can
lift the rear wheel I don't care much as long as it's balanced. If you
want to know what happens, imagine you've lifted the rear wheel with
*one* brake. The result is catastrophic.

Anthrotech with Magura BIGs.

Ian Smith said:

Mike K Smith said:

Luckily my waxed-cotton jacket took most of the force, but I managed to
graze my elbow. I'm sure one gets used to the risk of asymmetric braking
on a Trice, but isn't there a chance that this could happen in an
emergency stop?

I've never managed it on mine (and I've done a few emergency stops).

I have flipped it, but that was when I deliberately put it in a
looooong fast sideways slide on some ice, and the leading front wheel
(travelling sideways) dropped into a pothole and stopped.

regards, Ian SMith

Did that with my first RS2000, cup final day 1984, 'cept there was no ice
involved. The tree still bears the scar (last time I looked ).

Steve

Simon Bennett said:

Mike K Smith wrote:

[About his spill from a Trice]

Quoted message said:

More to the point, is the trike okay?

The owner has completed his Mishap Investigation Report and reports that
the only damage is a scuffed mudguard, which will probably polish up.
The preliminary root cause was determined to be contamination on one of
the brake pads.

Mike K Smith said:

Simon Bennett said:

Mike K Smith wrote:

[About his spill from a Trice]

Quoted message said:

More to the point, is the trike okay?

The owner has completed his Mishap Investigation Report and reports that
the only damage is a scuffed mudguard, which will probably polish up.
The preliminary root cause was determined to be contamination on one of
the brake pads.

Does his mate want to buy a Trice Explorer. I'm thinking of selling
mine and buying another machine.

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Pete Whelan said:

Does his mate want to buy a Trice Explorer. I'm thinking of selling
mine and buying another machine.

Assuming your address is unmunged, you should have mail.

Mike