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  1. I have made this "Plait bread" (we call it Pane treccia) with sourdough ,
    eggs and flour.
    Over a part of it I have put sesame seeds.
    Look:

    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr2pj.jpg

    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr4ea.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr4nl.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr1au.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr1p4.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr23b.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr2gh.jpg

    Cheers
    Pandora

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Pandora said:

    I have made this "Plait bread" (we call it Pane treccia) with sourdough ,
    eggs and flour.
    Over a part of it I have put sesame seeds.

    Nice picture (I only looked at one). I don't often make a braided
    (plaited) loaf but will often take only two lengths of dough and twist
    them. I like to do it with one length whole wheat and the other white.
    Something different for entertaining myself. :-)
    --
    http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 2-11-2006, Sausage Roll Ups

  3. Pandora said:

    I have made this "Plait bread" (we call it Pane treccia) with
    sourdough , eggs and flour.
    Over a part of it I have put sesame seeds.
    Look:

    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr2pj.jpg


    (snippage)
    Looks beautiful!

    Jill

  4. Melba's Jammin said:


    I like to do it with one whole wheat and the other white.
    Something different for entertaining myself. :-)

    Do you mean both at the same time? hehe

    Sheldon

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Pandora said:

    I have made this "Plait bread" (we call it Pane treccia) with sourdough ,
    eggs and flour.
    Over a part of it I have put sesame seeds.
    Look:

    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr2pj.jpg

    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr4ea.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr4nl.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr1au.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr1p4.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr23b.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr2gh.jpg

    Cheers
    Pandora

    Pandora,

    Why don't you join alt.binaries.food?

    We'd LOVE to have you over there!
    That way you can post your pictures directly to the list. :-)
    --
    Peace, Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  6. "Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel
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    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Pandora said:

    I have made this "Plait bread" (we call it Pane treccia) with sourdough ,
    eggs and flour.
    Over a part of it I have put sesame seeds.

    Nice picture (I only looked at one). I don't often make a braided
    (plaited) loaf but will often take only two lengths of dough and twist
    them. I like to do it with one length whole wheat and the other white.
    Something different for entertaining myself. :-)

    Ohhhhh!! It's a good Idea!!! Thank you! At Easter I will make a Braided bred
    three coloured 🙂
    P.s Isn't correct "Plait bread", as I have called it?
    Cheers
    Pandora

    Quoted message said:

    --
    http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 2-11-2006, Sausage Roll Ups

  7. OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Pandora said:

    I have made this "Plait bread" (we call it Pane treccia) with
    sourdough , eggs and flour.
    Over a part of it I have put sesame seeds.
    Look:

    Cheers
    Pandora

    Pandora,

    Why don't you join alt.binaries.food?


    Not everyone's newsserver provides access to binary groups.

    Jill

  8. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Pandora said:

    I have made this "Plait bread" (we call it Pane treccia) with
    sourdough , eggs and flour.
    Over a part of it I have put sesame seeds.
    Look:

    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr2pj.jpg


    (snippage)
    Looks beautiful!

    Thank's very much!
    Pandora

    Quoted message said:


    Jill

  9. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Pandora said:

    I have made this "Plait bread" (we call it Pane treccia) with sourdough ,
    eggs and flour.
    Over a part of it I have put sesame seeds.
    Look:

    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr2pj.jpg

    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr4ea.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr4nl.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr1au.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr1p4.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr23b.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr2gh.jpg

    Cheers
    Pandora

    Pandora,

    Why don't you join alt.binaries.food?

    We'd LOVE to have you over there!
    That way you can post your pictures directly to the list. :-)

    Ohhh! Thank you for inviting me. Are there only photo or recipes, also?
    Give me some clarifications.
    Thank you
    Pandora

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Peace, Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
    Nicholson

  10. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Pandora said:

    I have made this "Plait bread" (we call it Pane treccia) with
    sourdough , eggs and flour.
    Over a part of it I have put sesame seeds.
    Look:

    Cheers
    Pandora

    Pandora,

    Why don't you join alt.binaries.food?


    Not everyone's newsserver provides access to binary groups.

    Do you thoink I can't find? I go and see now, then.
    Thank you for having told me
    Pandora

    Quoted message said:


    Jill

  11. Ok! my newsserver can't find alt.binaries.food
    🙁((((((((
    I'm sorry
    Pandora
    --------------------------------------------

    "Pandora" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Pandora" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > I have made this "Plait bread" (we call it Pane treccia) with
    > sourdough , eggs and flour.
    > Over a part of it I have put sesame seeds.
    > Look:
    >
    > Cheers
    > Pandora
    >
    >

    Pandora,

    Why don't you join alt.binaries.food?


    Not everyone's newsserver provides access to binary groups.

    Do you thoink I can't find? I go and see now, then.
    Thank you for having told me
    Pandora

    Quoted message said:


    Jill

  12. "Pandora" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have made this "Plait bread" (we call it Pane treccia) with sourdough ,
    eggs and flour.


    snip photo links

    Quoted message said:

    Cheers
    Pandora


    Hi Pandora,
    I noticed in this picture http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr1au.jpg
    that you flattened the pieces you used to make the plaits (braids). Is
    that a recipe direction? I ask because it is different than we would do a
    braided bread here. We would divide the dough into 3 pieces and make a rope
    of each piece and then braid the ropes. Unless your recipe calls for
    flattening the pieces, you might find the ropes easier and quicker.
    Janet

  13. Pandora said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Pandora said:

    I have made this "Plait bread" (we call it Pane treccia) with
    sourdough , eggs and flour.
    Over a part of it I have put sesame seeds.
    Look:

    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr2pj.jpg

    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr4ea.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr4nl.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr1au.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr1p4.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr23b.jpg
    http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr2gh.jpg

    Cheers
    Pandora

    Pandora,

    Why don't you join alt.binaries.food?

    We'd LOVE to have you over there!
    That way you can post your pictures directly to the list. :-)

    Ohhh! Thank you for inviting me. Are there only photo or recipes,
    also? Give me some clarifications.
    Thank you
    Pandora

    Sometimes recipes are posted there along with photos if people want to know
    how you prepared something. Oh, and be warned, there's a whole lot of
    drinking going on 🙂 Lots of photos of beer, whisky, etc. as well as food.

    Jill

  14. Pandora said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Pandora" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > I have made this "Plait bread" (we call it Pane treccia) with
    > sourdough , eggs and flour.
    > Over a part of it I have put sesame seeds.
    > Look:
    >
    > Cheers
    > Pandora
    >
    >

    Pandora,

    Why don't you join alt.binaries.food?


    Not everyone's newsserver provides access to binary groups.

    Do you thoink I can't find? I go and see now, then.
    Thank you for having told me
    Pandora

    Quoted message said:


    Check your list of usenet groups (much as you found this one) and see if
    alt.binaries.food is listed. Anyone can join!

    Jill

  15. "Janet Bostwick" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Pandora" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have made this "Plait bread" (we call it Pane treccia) with sourdough ,
    eggs and flour.


    snip photo links

    Quoted message said:

    Cheers
    Pandora


    Hi Pandora,
    I noticed in this picture http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr1au.jpg
    that you flattened the pieces you used to make the plaits (braids). Is
    that a recipe direction?

    I would say yes. Because in the recipe is written :"Divide dough in 3 equal
    parts, roll out the dough for a 60 cm lenghtness..."
    "Roll out" they say. I rolled out at about 1 cm thickness.
    Then when you put the dough inside oven (brought to 40°C and then turned
    off) for the rising , it grows, and grows much more when you turn on the
    oven for cooking it.

    I ask because it is different than we would do a

    Quoted message said:

    braided bread here. We would divide the dough into 3 pieces and make a
    rope of each piece and then braid the ropes.

    Dough of this recipe is very tender, and I have used sourdough. This mean
    that a braided bread made with sourdough would grow much more then others,
    because it must stay for rising many hours. Perhaps is for this reason the
    recipe says "roll out". OTC bread would have risen too much, IMHO.
    BTW I asked myself the same thing 🙂

    Unless your recipe calls for

    Quoted message said:

    flattening the pieces, you might find the ropes easier and quicker.

    I will try, surely! Thank you.
    Pandora

    Quoted message said:

    Janet

  16. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Pandora said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Pandora" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > I have made this "Plait bread" (we call it Pane treccia) with
    > sourdough , eggs and flour.
    > Over a part of it I have put sesame seeds.
    > Look:
    >
    >
    > http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr2pj.jpg
    >
    > http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr4ea.jpg
    > http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr4nl.jpg
    > http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr1au.jpg
    > http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr1p4.jpg
    > http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr23b.jpg
    > http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr2gh.jpg
    >
    > Cheers
    > Pandora
    >
    >

    Pandora,

    Why don't you join alt.binaries.food?

    We'd LOVE to have you over there!
    That way you can post your pictures directly to the list. :-)

    Ohhh! Thank you for inviting me. Are there only photo or recipes,
    also? Give me some clarifications.
    Thank you
    Pandora

    Sometimes recipes are posted there along with photos if people want to
    know
    how you prepared something. Oh, and be warned, there's a whole lot of
    drinking going on 🙂 Lots of photos of beer, whisky, etc. as well as
    food.

    But drink is not food 🙂)))
    Pandora

    Quoted message said:


    Jill

  17. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Pandora said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
    > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > "Pandora" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >> I have made this "Plait bread" (we call it Pane treccia) with
    >> sourdough , eggs and flour.
    >> Over a part of it I have put sesame seeds.
    >> Look:
    >>
    >> Cheers
    >> Pandora
    >>
    >>
    >
    > Pandora,
    >
    > Why don't you join alt.binaries.food?
    >
    Not everyone's newsserver provides access to binary groups.

    Do you thoink I can't find? I go and see now, then.
    Thank you for having told me
    Pandora

    Quoted message said:


    Check your list of usenet groups (much as you found this one) and see if
    alt.binaries.food is listed. Anyone can join!

    My newsserver don't want drink 🙂
    It can't find binaries food!
    Pandora
    Ps. perhaps I should have 2 newsserver?

    Quoted message said:

    Jill

  18. Pandora said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Pandora said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email hidden]...
    > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > "Pandora" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > Why don't you join alt.binaries.food?
    >
    Ohhh! Thank you for inviting me. Are there only photo or recipes,
    also? Give me some clarifications.
    Thank you
    Pandora

    Oh, and be warned, there's a whole lot
    of drinking going on 🙂 Lots of photos of beer, whisky, etc. as
    well as food.

    But drink is not food 🙂)))
    Pandora

    Quoted message said:


    Try telling *them* that! LOL

  19. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Pandora said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Pandora wrote:
    > "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    > news:[email hidden]...
    >> In article <[email hidden]>,
    >> "Pandora" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >> Why don't you join alt.binaries.food?
    >>
    > Ohhh! Thank you for inviting me. Are there only photo or recipes,
    > also? Give me some clarifications.
    > Thank you
    > Pandora

    Oh, and be warned, there's a whole lot
    of drinking going on 🙂 Lots of photos of beer, whisky, etc. as
    well as food.

    But drink is not food 🙂)))
    Pandora

    Quoted message said:


    Try telling *them* that! LOL

    I understand . It's better to post (as my first photo) the photo of my wine
    cellar 😄DD
    Pandora

    Quoted message said:


  20. "Pandora" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Janet Bostwick" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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    "Pandora" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I have made this "Plait bread" (we call it Pane treccia) with sourdough ,
    eggs and flour.


    snip photo links

    Quoted message said:

    Cheers
    Pandora


    Hi Pandora,
    I noticed in this picture http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr1au.jpg
    that you flattened the pieces you used to make the plaits (braids). Is
    that a recipe direction?

    I would say yes. Because in the recipe is written :"Divide dough in 3
    equal parts, roll out the dough for a 60 cm lenghtness..."
    "Roll out" they say. I rolled out at about 1 cm thickness.
    Then when you put the dough inside oven (brought to 40°C and then turned
    off) for the rising , it grows, and grows much more when you turn on the
    oven for cooking it.

    I ask because it is different than we would do a

    Quoted message said:

    braided bread here. We would divide the dough into 3 pieces and make a
    rope of each piece and then braid the ropes.

    Dough of this recipe is very tender, and I have used sourdough. This mean
    that a braided bread made with sourdough would grow much more then others,
    because it must stay for rising many hours. Perhaps is for this reason the
    recipe says "roll out". OTC bread would have risen too much, IMHO.
    BTW I asked myself the same thing 🙂

    Unless your recipe calls for

    Quoted message said:

    flattening the pieces, you might find the ropes easier and quicker.

    I will try, surely! Thank you.
    Pandora

    Quoted message said:

    Janet


    I would interpret 'roll out' to mean roll ropes beneath the hands. This is
    the standard approach for making a plaited loaf or bun. You take a ball of
    dough, place it on the bench and put your hands ( palms down) on the ball of
    dough. You begin to push your hands back and forth, gradually moving the
    hands away from each other. This stretches the rope. You roll in this
    manner until the dough is the length you want. Your directions did not say
    to roll the dough to a particular thickness, only length, that's why I
    believe you want ropes.

    Whether the dough is sourdough or not should make no difference. Dough of
    whatever kind grows to full proof. Depending upon your particular sourdough
    culture, the dough may grow slow or fast. If you want the dough to grow
    slowly in order to develop flavor, simply limit the amount of warmth it is
    subject to. I proof my sourdough loaves overnight in the refrigerator. By
    morning they are fully proofed. Yeasted dough and sourdough generates its
    own internal heat to a certain extent. It also takes some time for the
    interior of a loaf to cool down in the refrigerator. You'd be surprised at
    how much the loaf will grow in the refrigerator in 2 or 3 hours. Sourdough
    is not necessarily lighter or more hydrated than a lean dough or an enriched
    dough. It is all in the handling. I suggested that you might try making
    ropes because in your pictures it looks as though you had to use a lot of
    flour to get the dough rolled out. This not only alters the texture and
    flavor of the bread, but would also make it more difficult to get the dough
    pieces to adhere to one another. You might even have an interior crumb that
    pulls apart in the sections of the plait.

    Janet

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