Bad waitress tricks

"jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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D.Currie said:

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OMG, I find myself agreeing with Sheldon.

To be honest, I think she may not completely understand what we're
saying sometimes. Which is why I gave her the benefit of the doubt
and gave her the better tip. I'm also hoping we'll get one of the old
waiters next time we go there.

Make a point of learning the names of the "good" servers. It's always a
plus when a server gets 'call customers'; that is, someone who
specifically
asks to be seated in their section. When a server gets repeat customers,
you'll find you get better and better service as time goes on because the
server appreciates the recognition just as much as an appropriate tip.

Jill

Actually, we do that a lot at certain places, but up until this one
waitress, service at this place had been really good, no matter which
server. Next time we get a good one, I'll have to remember to ask for a
name.

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me said:

Now writing a check is about as easy as paying with dollar coins
and two-dollar bills. So it seems most folks here are using
plastic. But, yeah, the behavior hasn't changed much.

Not a problem paying for things with $1 coins here. We had $2
bills until a few years ago when they pulled them and introduced
$2 coins. A pocket full of change can add up to quite a bit of
money now.

And there are rumours of a 5$ coin. And doing away with the penny
because they can't make it for a penny anymore.

In Spain (and other European countries), lower denominations like 5 and
10 centavos were made of unpolished aluminium. Now that they have the
Euro, I'm not sure what happened to the old money. Turned in I guess.

When Canada went from the L.s.d. system to decimal in 1857 (so as to
align it with US currency), the old coins still had value, but at the
new rate. The half-crown was used as a 25 cent piece. It had formerly
been 2s 6d, a value of 30d which was called in Québec "un trente sous"
(a thirty cent piece), which seemed illogical unless you know currency
history.

When I was a boy, you would commonly hear someone refer to a 25 cent
piece as a "trente sous". I heard it used as recently as the summer of
1984 on the ferry from Les Ecoumins to Trois-Pistoles. The expression
is no longer in common usage, unfortunately.

--

"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why
the poor have no food, they call me a communist."

Dom Helder Camara

"Julia Altshuler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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D.Currie said:

Considering I specifically asked her to make change, I was more annoyed
than when a server has come back with just big bills.

I haven't read the whole thread with all the responses so forgive me if
this has been brought up before, but do you remember your exact words when
you asked her for change? I ask because, if I pay for a $5 purchase with
a $20 bill, getting a ten and a five back IS change according to the way
the word is commonly used. If there's no purchase, and I just ask for
change for a twenty, I might get back 2 tens. That's considered change.
Or the cashier might ask me specifically how I'd like it and give me the
chance to say I'd like a ten, a five and 5 ones. From the way your
original post is written, I'd say the waitress was busy and low on
singles. She may have been doing her reasonable best, came back with the
news that there was no change to convey the idea that she couldn't find
singles and thought it more important to bring you your money quickly.
Her error might have been more in using the wrong turn of phrase than in
conniving or lying.

I don't remember exactly what I said, but I think no matter what, it may
have been that she didn't understand what I wanted. She might have thought I
meant "coins" and I didn't get any coin change either, she just rounded the
bill to the dollar, which is how I ended up with just a five and a ten.

Frankly, her English isn't very good.

I'm still giving her the benefit of the doubt that she just doesn't
understand, but this is the second time we've had a communication problem
with her, and we've never had issues with any of the waiters at this place.
The waiters, if they don't understand, will do what they have to do figure
it out. She just nods and smiles like she knows what we want, but I have my
doubts.

Michel Boucher said:

Dave Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in
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me said:

Now writing a check is about as easy as paying with dollar coins
and two-dollar bills. So it seems most folks here are using
plastic. But, yeah, the behavior hasn't changed much.

Not a problem paying for things with $1 coins here. We had $2
bills until a few years ago when they pulled them and introduced
$2 coins. A pocket full of change can add up to quite a bit of
money now.

And there are rumours of a 5$ coin. And doing away with the penny
because they can't make it for a penny anymore.

Oh no! The only good things about the loonie and toonie is they really
add up in the piggy bank. They are a pain to carry very many in your
pocket or purse 🙁

Quoted message said:

In Spain (and other European countries), lower denominations like 5 and
10 centavos were made of unpolished aluminium. Now that they have the
Euro, I'm not sure what happened to the old money. Turned in I guess.

When Canada went from the L.s.d. system to decimal in 1857 (so as to
align it with US currency), the old coins still had value, but at the
new rate. The half-crown was used as a 25 cent piece. It had formerly
been 2s 6d, a value of 30d which was called in Québec "un trente sous"
(a thirty cent piece), which seemed illogical unless you know currency
history.

When I was a boy, you would commonly hear someone refer to a 25 cent
piece as a "trente sous". I heard it used as recently as the summer of
1984 on the ferry from Les Ecoumins to Trois-Pistoles. The expression
is no longer in common usage, unfortunately.

Sheldon said:

I don't like your method, even on the few occasions that I do pay with
plastic I still tip in cash... the server is entitled to receive their
tip in CASH, in HAND, and when service is rendered. [snip]

Yes, this is what I've always done, too. Over the years I've had
numerous servers tell me they like that. A few times I have had to
add the tip to the credit card when I've lacked the cash, but I make an
effort to avoid that. -aem

In article <[email hidden]>,

Peter Aitken said:

This thread got me thinking - I sure we have all seen signs at quickie
marts - "No $50 or $100 bills accepted." But it says right on the money
"This note is legal tender for all debts public and private." So, how can
they refuse them? What if you present a $50 bill and they refuse it - what
then?

Just a comment. Peter, some of that has to do with the 50 or 100 being
counterfeit, not just the ability to make change. The $100 bill is the
one most counterfeited and when I was a kitten working retail we were
instructed to not accept them because of the fear of forgery.

Each year at the Festival of Nations where I do my egg trick, we're
always reminded to be cautious about forgeries -- $20 bills especially,
in that scenario because there's a lot that can be purchased for not
much money and change (for a bogus 20) will be returned.

Prices being what they are, seeing a fifty dollar bill isn't as uncommon
as it was 45 years ago. FWIW.
--
-Barb
<www.jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 3-17-2006, The $400K Condo in the
'Hood
"If it's not worth doing to excess, it's not worth doing at all."

~patches~ said:

Quoted message said:

And there are rumours of a 5$ coin. And doing away with the penny
because they can't make it for a penny anymore.

Oh no! The only good things about the loonie and toonie is they really
add up in the piggy bank. They are a pain to carry very many in your
pocket or purse 🙁

I don't know about you but I like it when my change purse gets a little heavy
and it turns out to have more than $20 in it, or when I get some things in
the store that add up to more than $10-15 and I can pay for it with my pocket
change.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In Spain (and other European countries), lower denominations like 5 and
10 centavos were made of unpolished aluminium. Now that they have the
Euro, I'm not sure what happened to the old money. Turned in I guess.

When Canada went from the L.s.d. system to decimal in 1857 (so as to
align it with US currency), the old coins still had value, but at the
new rate. The half-crown was used as a 25 cent piece. It had formerly
been 2s 6d, a value of 30d which was called in Québec "un trente sous"
(a thirty cent piece), which seemed illogical unless you know currency
history.

When I was a boy, you would commonly hear someone refer to a 25 cent
piece as a "trente sous". I heard it used as recently as the summer of
1984 on the ferry from Les Ecoumins to Trois-Pistoles. The expression
is no longer in common usage, unfortunately.

Food Snob said:

Peter Aitken said:

"Food Snob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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D.Currie wrote:
> We went out to dinner tonight to a local place. When it came time
> to pay, I
> needed the waitress to make change so I could tip her. She came
> back with a
> five and a ten, and muttered something about "sorry, no change."
> Grrr.

At the one restaurant where we are regulars, I tip very well, but
expect great service.
When we go in there and are assigned a server who doesn't know us,
(s)he brings water and chips&salsa, just like for every customer.
After the server goes back to the back, (s)he acts differently,
obviously having been told by other staff that I am a huge tipper,
but only for spectacular service. I also often tip with $2 bills,
which
just serves to highlight the size of the gratuity.

All well and good, but what about people who do not go to a
restaurant regularly? It's nice to be known and treated well because
of your tipping, but relatively few people I think patronize any
restaurant that frequently.

Really? I know people who have favorite restaurants, and the owners
know some of them by name.

Quoted message said:

Bully for you. I know very few people who go to a restaurant on such a
regular basis that the server(s), let alone the owners know them by name.
I'm certainly not one of them.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

And then what about the other patrons? Suppose I came to your
restaurant as an unknown. Is my service going to be slighted because
the waitress is busy attending to her known big tippers?

Exactly. They have no idea whether or not I'll tip well or stiff them. I
still expect excellent service. If I get it, they get an excellent tip. Of
course, having been on the receiving end I take into consideration a number
of factors. Is the restaurant/server slammed? I make allowances for
delays. It's a plus if the server stops by to apologize for the delay and
ask if I need something in the meantime.

Is the restaurant slow and I can see the server hanging out chatting with
other servers by the coffee/tea station when I've been waiting for a refill?
I adjust the tip downward; chit chat on your break.

Jill

jmcquown said:

Food Snob said:

Peter Aitken said:

"Food Snob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
> D.Currie wrote:
>> We went out to dinner tonight to a local place. When it came time
>> to pay, I
>> needed the waitress to make change so I could tip her. She came
>> back with a
>> five and a ten, and muttered something about "sorry, no change."
>> Grrr.
>
> At the one restaurant where we are regulars, I tip very well, but
> expect great service.
> When we go in there and are assigned a server who doesn't know us,
> (s)he brings water and chips&salsa, just like for every customer.
> After the server goes back to the back, (s)he acts differently,
> obviously having been told by other staff that I am a huge tipper,
> but only for spectacular service. I also often tip with $2 bills,
> which
> just serves to highlight the size of the gratuity.
>

All well and good, but what about people who do not go to a
restaurant regularly? It's nice to be known and treated well because
of your tipping, but relatively few people I think patronize any
restaurant that frequently.

Really? I know people who have favorite restaurants, and the owners
know some of them by name.

Quoted message said:

Bully for you. I know very few people who go to a restaurant on such a
regular basis that the server(s), let alone the owners know them by name.
I'm certainly not one of them.

You gotta be kidding?! And you worked the hostess station, too? One of
my very first service jobs was noticing who the regulars were and
remembering what their requirements were.

Return customers are immediately bankable for everyone.

The Ranger

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:56:19 GMT, Ward Abbott <[email hidden]>

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Quoted message said:

This thread got me thinking - I sure we have all seen signs at quickie
marts - "No $50 or $100 bills accepted."

Gas and convenience stations have done this for years....nothing new
here.

My old Chevy Suburban has a 40 gallon gas tank. If I put $92.00 of gas
in it at a gas station, they'd better take my hundred dollar bill. :/
--
Zilbandy - Tucson, Arizona USA <[email hidden]>
Dead Suburban's Home Page: http://zilbandy.com/suburb/
PGP Public Key: http://zilbandy.com/pgpkey.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Andrew said:

Sheldon said:

D.Currie said:

We went out to dinner tonight to a local place. When it came time to pay, I
needed the waitress to make change so I could tip her. She came back with a
five and a ten, and muttered something about "sorry, no change." Grrr. Five
bucks was less than 15 percent, but even though she wasn't a spectacular
waitress, I didn't want to leave that little. We go to this place often, and
we've had this waitress before. But the full $10 was more than 20 percent
and that bugged me. Half of me was thinking she was just a little too dumb
to understand that I needed the singles for the tip, but the other half of
me was thinking that she was pushing me to make the choice between the $5
and the $10 and figuring she'd get the better tip.

Considering I specifically asked her to make change, I was more annoyed than
when a server has come back with just big bills. The smart ones will usually
break at least one of the bills down so you've got a ten, a five, and
singles instead of a twenty, but sometimes they just come back with the
change in whatever form is easiest. But I don't think I've ever asked
someone to make change and had them say there was none.

I did some waitressing when I was a teenager, and one of the things I
learned early was that you made sure the customer had good change to leave a
tip.

[censored]. In no way whatsoever is it the responsibility of the
waitperson to make change (you think it's a friggin' bank), it's always
ultimately the patron's responsibility to have their own change when
they go out to eat. You got some effin nerve, you self-centered
hooray-for-me [censored]. You mean you didn't have a couple of singles to
add to that fin... you obnoxious piece of dirt. It's a restaurant, NOT
a bank, you imbecile.

Sheldon

Nice talk. You kiss your mother (or boyfriend) with that mouth?
It's not a bank, true, but as a functioning business establishment
they'd better have change at all times if they want to stay in business.
Being able to change money is inherent to running that type of venue.
Otherwise all patrons would have to pay with either credit cards,
checks, or exact change in cash for their meal...not gonna happen.

You don't read too gud, try without moving your scuzzy lips... the
patron did indeed receive change. It is NOT a restaurant's
responsibility to give change in any particular denominations... and it
is never the server's duty to do more than bring the change given by
the cashier... servers do not operate the till. If you want change get
up off your fat ass and ask the cashier... only a low life cheap
[censored] would nickle and dime the server, obviously to squeak out of
giving a proper tip. What's the big deal about tipping an extra two
bucks, sheesh!

Quoted message said:

Sounds to me like the waitress lied,

Liars think everyone is lying, that's your disease, Paranoia.

The server didn't lie, she had no motive to lie... very likely the
cashier was running low on singles... you're too stingy to fork over a
couple extra bucks don't eat out.

and she'd either get zilch from me,

Cheap [censored].. would you also not tip for good service if the food
sucked, probably, a douchebag like you. The OP lied, her entire story
was a fabrication... the math doesn't add up... but a low IQ schmoo
like you would never realize.

Quoted message said:

or maybe the five, if I'm feeling magnanimous.
andrew

Obviously widdle andy boy intends never to return... good riddance to
bad rubbish.

D.Currie said:

I don't remember exactly what I said, but I think no matter what, it may
have been that she didn't understand what I wanted. She might have thought I
meant "coins" and I didn't get any coin change either, she just rounded the
bill to the dollar, which is how I ended up with just a five and a ten.

Frankly, her English isn't very good.

Ah, this makes sense. When motivations can be attributed to ignorance
or malice, I tend to go with ingorance.

--Lia

Sheldon said:

You don't read too gud, try without moving your scuzzy lips... the
patron did indeed receive change. It is NOT a restaurant's
responsibility to give change in any particular denominations... and it
is never the server's duty to do more than bring the change given by
the cashier... servers do not operate the till. If you want change get
up off your fat ass and ask the cashier... only a low life cheap
[censored] would nickle and dime the server, obviously to squeak out of
giving a proper tip. What's the big deal about tipping an extra two
bucks, sheesh!

maybe she didn't show enough titty???

Quoted message said:

Liars think everyone is lying, that's your disease, Paranoia.

am I the only one who sees the irony flooding off this line? It's like the
irony dam burst and I'm floating around in it.

--
..:Heather:.
www.velvet-c.com
Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

The Ranger said:

jmcquown said:

Food Snob said:

Peter Aitken wrote:
> "Food Snob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
>>
>> D.Currie wrote:
>>> We went out to dinner tonight to a local place. When it came time
>>> to pay, I
>>> needed the waitress to make change so I could tip her. She came
>>> back with a
>>> five and a ten, and muttered something about "sorry, no change."
>>> Grrr.
>>
>> At the one restaurant where we are regulars, I tip very well, but
>> expect great service.
>> When we go in there and are assigned a server who doesn't know us,
>> (s)he brings water and chips&salsa, just like for every customer.
>> After the server goes back to the back, (s)he acts differently,
>> obviously having been told by other staff that I am a huge tipper,
>> but only for spectacular service. I also often tip with $2 bills,
>> which
>> just serves to highlight the size of the gratuity.
>>
>
> All well and good, but what about people who do not go to a
> restaurant regularly? It's nice to be known and treated well because
> of your tipping, but relatively few people I think patronize any
> restaurant that frequently.

Really? I know people who have favorite restaurants, and the owners
know some of them by name.
>

Bully for you. I know very few people who go to a restaurant on such a
regular basis that the server(s), let alone the owners know them by name.
I'm certainly not one of them.

You gotta be kidding?! And you worked the hostess station, too? One of
my very first service jobs was noticing who the regulars were and
remembering what their requirements were.

Return customers are immediately bankable for everyone.

The Ranger

Not only do the restaurants I regularly frequent know me by name they
also have my mailing address on file... I receive advertisements for
specials, discount coupons, and a holiday greeting card... the steak
house down the road includes two free drink coupons with their holiday
card. Even before I moved here I had my regular haunts on Lung Island,
there too they knew me by name, they knew my drink, my favorite meal
and how I liked it prepared. I frequented the same Chinese restaurant
almost exclusively for more than twenty years... a family run
business... they all knew me by name. Often, especially on most all
holidays, especially Chinese holidays, the the owner would bring a
bottle of plum brandy and sit himself down and enjoy a few minutes
chatting while sharing a few drinks... we still have an ongoing bet on
whose spare rib recipe is better... and even though I no longer go
there they have my address here and they still send me their fabulous
Chinese New Year calendar.

Naturally the cheap [censored] who don't tip like adults have no
restarants they regularly frequent... I don't think The Clown cares
what anyones name is.

Sheldon

Andy q said:

Low paid waitresses need tips to pay the rent.

Yes. And they can improve the tips by giving good service. As this
one did *not* do, when faced with a specific request.

--
-denny-
"Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?"

"It's come as you are, baby."

-over the hedge

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:47:03 +0000 (UTC), [email hidden] (Glitter

Ninja) said:

For your sake, I hope you are joking. This is one of the more
disgusting things I've read on Usenet lately, and there's a lot of [censored]
on Usenet to choose from. It's good that someone tips an underpaid
waitress based on breast size? It's good to expect women to debase
themselves for a couple bucks in tip and "enjoy" it to boot?
The winky smiley meant you were joking. Right? Right?!

I guess you always wear potato sacks? The women I know--and there
have been many over the years--who dress revealingly do so BECAUSE
they enjoy being looked at. Gee--some men wear clothes to enhance
their attractiveness.

Note that Sheldon didn't say word one about 'based on breast size.'
He mentioned cleavage, yes--but it doesn't take a 38DD pair to have
cleavage. Hell, if he were basing his tips on breast size, he'd want
servers who tip the scales over 300#, right?

PPO: If a woman--especially one who's generally considered
attractive--doesn't like being looked at, she likely would be a lot
happier in a job that doesn't include dealing with a lot of people.

--
-denny-
"Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?"

"It's come as you are, baby."

-over the hedge

Blair P. Houghton said:

If he wants sleaze, he can go to Hooters, where the food is
pointless and the women are cheap and overdressed for the purpose. Or
he can just go to hell, where his evil and confused worldview is the
program.

The two PBK college gals I know who work at Hooters will be right
over. Would you rather be bashed with medical books or law books?

--
-denny-
"Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?"

"It's come as you are, baby."

-over the hedge

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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Peter Aitken said:

This thread got me thinking - I sure we have all seen signs at
quickie marts - "No $50 or $100 bills accepted." But it says right on
the money "This note is legal tender for all debts public and
private." So, how can they refuse them? What if you present a $50
bill and they refuse it - what then?

Just a comment. Peter, some of that has to do with the 50 or 100
being counterfeit, not just the ability to make change. The $100 bill
is the one most counterfeited and when I was a kitten working retail
we were instructed to not accept them because of the fear of forgery.

Each year at the Festival of Nations where I do my egg trick, we're
always reminded to be cautious about forgeries -- $20 bills
especially, in that scenario because there's a lot that can be
purchased for not much money and change (for a bogus 20) will be
returned.

Prices being what they are, seeing a fifty dollar bill isn't as
uncommon as it was 45 years ago. FWIW.

As usual, you are a ton of change 😉

Michael

--
"The most remarkable thing about my mother is that for thirty years she
served the family nothing but leftovers. The original meal has never been
found."

--Calvin Trillin

Melba's Jammin said:

Just a comment. Peter, some of that has to do with the 50 or 100 being
counterfeit, not just the ability to make change. The $100 bill is the
one most counterfeited and when I was a kitten working retail we were
instructed to not accept them because of the fear of forgery.

Each year at the Festival of Nations where I do my egg trick, we're
always reminded to be cautious about forgeries -- $20 bills especially,
in that scenario because there's a lot that can be purchased for not
much money and change (for a bogus 20) will be returned.

Prices being what they are, seeing a fifty dollar bill isn't as uncommon
as it was 45 years ago. FWIW.

$50 is the norm, then I pay for stuff.

When I worked retail, we had pens we had to use to mark the bills - $20
and higher- to see if they were conterfeit.
-L.

The Ranger said:

jmcquown said:

Food Snob said:

Peter Aitken wrote:
> "Food Snob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
>>
>> D.Currie wrote:
>>> We went out to dinner tonight to a local place. When it came time
>>> to pay, I
>>> needed the waitress to make change so I could tip her. She came
>>> back with a
>>> five and a ten, and muttered something about "sorry, no change."
>>> Grrr.
>>
>> At the one restaurant where we are regulars, I tip very well, but
>> expect great service.
>> When we go in there and are assigned a server who doesn't know us,
>> (s)he brings water and chips&salsa, just like for every customer.
>> After the server goes back to the back, (s)he acts differently,
>> obviously having been told by other staff that I am a huge tipper,
>> but only for spectacular service. I also often tip with $2 bills,
>> which
>> just serves to highlight the size of the gratuity.
>>
>
> All well and good, but what about people who do not go to a
> restaurant regularly? It's nice to be known and treated well
> because of your tipping, but relatively few people I think
> patronize any restaurant that frequently.

Really? I know people who have favorite restaurants, and the owners
know some of them by name.
>

Bully for you. I know very few people who go to a restaurant on
such a regular basis that the server(s), let alone the owners know
them by name. I'm certainly not one of them.

You gotta be kidding?! And you worked the hostess station, too? One of
my very first service jobs was noticing who the regulars were and
remembering what their requirements were.

Return customers are immediately bankable for everyone.

The Ranger

I said I wasn't a *regular customer* at any restaurant, not that I didn't
recognize regular customers when I was a hostess. We're talking about 16
years ago. I don't go to any restaurant on a regular basis otherwhise I'd
know the hostesses and the servers and probably the chefs and line cooks,
too.

Jill