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30 minutes running at 12-13 Km: 400 cal or 400 Kcal burned?

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  1. After running 30 minutes on the threadmill, at about 12-13 Km per hour, so a distance of 6 KM, the
    calories burned display on the threadmill show about 400 cal. This seems very little, since various
    books indicate that the diet of an avarage person is about 3000 Kcal per day.

    So is my threadmill incorrect, and should it show 400 Kcal iso 400 cal? 400 Kcal would be about 8-10
    % of the daily intake, and this seems a bit more reasonable than 400 cal.

    Any reference to a web page with a distance to calory table or something like that would be
    appreciated.

    Thanks, Chris van Engelen

  2. 400 calories sounds about right.

    "Chris van Engelen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    After running 30 minutes on the threadmill, at about 12-13 Km per hour, so a distance of 6 KM, the
    calories burned display on the threadmill show about 400 cal. This seems very little, since
    various books indicate that the diet of an avarage person is about 3000 Kcal per day.

    So is my threadmill incorrect, and should it show 400 Kcal iso 400 cal? 400 Kcal would be about
    8-10 % of the daily intake, and this seems a bit more reasonable than 400 cal.

    Any reference to a web page with a distance to calory table or something like that would be
    appreciated.

    Thanks, Chris van Engelen

  3. Chris van Engelen <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Any reference to a web page with a distance to calory table or


    something

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    like that would be appreciated.

    Runner's calculator here: rice.eduruncalc.html

  4. Quoted message said:

    Subject: 30 minutes running at 12-13 Km: 400 cal or 400 Kcal burned? From: "Chris van Engelen"
    [email hidden] Date: Wed, Apr 16, 2003 5:03 AM Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    After running 30 minutes on the threadmill, at about 12-13 Km per hour, so a distance of 6 KM, the
    calories burned display on the threadmill show about 400 cal. This seems very little, since various
    books indicate that the diet of an avarage person is about 3000 Kcal per day.

    So is my threadmill incorrect, and should it show 400 Kcal iso 400 cal? 400 Kcal would be about
    8-10 % of the daily intake, and this seems a bit more reasonable than 400 cal.

    Any reference to a web page with a distance to calory table or something like that would be
    appreciated.

    Thanks, Chris van Engelen


    Your treadmill is actually displaying energy in Kcals. Units of "Cals" (note the capital
    "C"😉 are an abbreviation for Kcal. 1 Cal = 1000 cal, or 1 Cal = 1 Kcal.

    Robert Walter, CA

  5. "Frisky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Chris van Engelen <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Any reference to a web page with a distance to calory table or


    something

    Quoted message said:

    like that would be appreciated.

    Runner's calculator here: rice.eduruncalc.html

    Thanks very much: the calculator immediately gives:

    "330 kcals of energy used"

    so this would indicate that the unit is indeed kcal instead of cals.

    Chris van Engelen

  6. "RWalter2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Your treadmill is actually displaying energy in Kcals. Units of "Cals"


    (note

    Quoted message said:

    the capital "C"😉 are an abbreviation for Kcal. 1 Cal = 1000 cal, or 1


    Cal = 1

    Quoted message said:

    Kcal.

    Yep. I was about to say the OP got bitten by the Cal=Kcal monster. 1 Cal (capitalized) = 1000 cal =
    1 Kcal. In other words, someone inexplicably imagined that Cal would be good shorthand for
    Kcal--that someone being the Cal=Kcal monster.

    --
    ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º Eduardo Suastegui "Test everything.
    Hold on to the good." (remove '701' when replying via e-mail)
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  7. Quoted message said:

    so this would indicate that the unit is indeed kcal instead of cals.

    Forgive my ignorance, what is the difference?

    "Chris van Engelen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    "Frisky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Chris van Engelen <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Any reference to a web page with a distance to calory table or


    something

    Quoted message said:

    like that would be appreciated.

    Runner's calculator here: rice.eduruncalc.html

    Thanks very much: the calculator immediately gives:

    "330 kcals of energy used"

    so this would indicate that the unit is indeed kcal instead of cals.

    Chris van Engelen

  8. "Wiz Kid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    so this would indicate that the unit is indeed kcal instead of cals.

    Forgive my ignorance, what is the difference?

    1 Kcal = 1 Cal (capitalized) = 1000 cals. Most places that list Calories (food packaging, exercise
    computations, etc.) actually list Kcals. Intuitive, ain't it?

    --
    ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º Eduardo Suastegui "Test everything.
    Hold on to the good." (remove '701' when replying via e-mail)
    ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º

  9. 1 kcal = 1000 calories? What an idiot I am. I have always just assumed that 170 kcal meant 170
    calories. You mean I burn off 2 big macs (1700 calories) instead of 1 soda (170 calories). Somebody
    hand me the spare ribs! ;-) jojo

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    "Wiz Kid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    so this would indicate that the unit is indeed kcal instead of cals.

    Forgive my ignorance, what is the difference?

    1 Kcal = 1 Cal (capitalized) = 1000 cals. Most places that list Calories (food packaging, exercise
    computations, etc.) actually list Kcals. Intuitive, ain't it?

    --
    ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º Eduardo Suastegui "Test
    everything. Hold on to the good." (remove '701' when replying via e-mail)
    ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º

  10. That would be about four miles or 400 kcal. Peole drop the prefix "kilo-" in common usage.

  11. I have tested my self out on that calculator. Six miles and I weigh in at
    224lb. Equals 980 calories (seems a lot?). Bloody felt like it too, up steep hills and that. 900
    calories x three times a week. Cut out some [censored] in my diet. I reckon I can lose three
    pounds a week of flab even though I want to carry on muscle building as well. I want to get
    down to my six-pack weight of about 190lb. And I am cutting smoking out. Nothing like
    setting yourself some targets eh? Steve United Kingdom

    "Frisky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Chris van Engelen <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Any reference to a web page with a distance to calory table or


    something

    Quoted message said:

    like that would be appreciated.

    Runner's calculator here: rice.eduruncalc.html

  12. "jojo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    1 kcal = 1000 calories? What an idiot I am. I have always just assumed that 170 kcal meant 170
    calories. You mean I burn off 2 big macs (1700 calories) instead of 1 soda (170 calories).
    Somebody hand me the spare ribs!

    Nope. 1 kcal = 1000 *C*alories. So 170 kcal means .170 calories and 170 *C*alories. So no 2 big macs
    for you, or else run 12-17 miles right after dinner.

    --
    ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º Eduardo Suastegui "Test everything.
    Hold on to the good." (remove '701' when replying via e-mail)
    ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º

  13. "Eduardo Suastegui" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    "jojo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    1 kcal = 1000 calories? What an idiot I am. I have always just assumed that 170 kcal meant 170
    calories. You mean I burn off 2 big macs (1700 calories) instead of 1 soda (170 calories).
    Somebody hand me the spare ribs!

    Nope. 1 kcal = 1000 *C*alories. So 170 kcal means .170 calories and 170 *C*alories. So no 2 big
    macs for you, or else run 12-17 miles right after dinner.

    oh. back to carrot sticks.

  14. Eduardo Suastegui said:

    In other words, someone inexplicably imagined that Cal would be good shorthand for Kcal--that
    someone being the Cal=Kcal monster.

    Probably a computer scientist. I mean just look at the mess they made of Megas.

    --
    Steve - computer scientist

  15. 3000 Kcal == 3000000 cal for a daily intake. 400Kacl = 400000 cal for a 30 minute run.

    Hugh? I don't think so.

    400 calories is right. Maybe even optimistic on a treadmill.

    "RWalter2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Subject: 30 minutes running at 12-13 Km: 400 cal or 400 Kcal burned? From: "Chris van Engelen"
    [email hidden] Date: Wed, Apr 16, 2003 5:03 AM Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    After running 30 minutes on the threadmill, at about 12-13 Km per hour, so a distance of 6 KM,
    the calories burned display on the threadmill show about 400 cal. This seems very little, since
    various books indicate that the diet of an avarage person is about 3000 Kcal per day.

    So is my threadmill incorrect, and should it show 400 Kcal iso 400 cal? 400 Kcal would be about
    8-10 % of the daily intake, and this seems a bit more reasonable than 400 cal.

    Any reference to a web page with a distance to calory table or something like that would be
    appreciated.

    Thanks, Chris van Engelen


    Your treadmill is actually displaying energy in Kcals. Units of "Cals"


    (note

    Quoted message said:

    the capital "C"😉 are an abbreviation for Kcal. 1 Cal = 1000 cal, or 1


    Cal = 1

    Quoted message said:

    Kcal.

    Robert Walter, CA

  16. In article said:

    3000 Kcal == 3000000 cal for a daily intake. 400Kacl = 400000 cal for a 30 minute run.

    Hugh? I don't think so.

    400 calories is right. Maybe even optimistic on a treadmill.

    The "calories" on nutrition labels, and measured on the treadmill are actually kcal.

    So for example, suppose the exercise bike says that your power output is 240 watts (1 watt = 1
    joule/second, and 1 calorie = 4.19 joules). Your efficiency on a bicycle ergometer is about 25%. So
    your *kilo*calories per hour is:

    240 watts * 3600 sec/hr * (1/4.19) cal/joule /1000cal/kcal*(1/0.25)=824kcal/hr

    Cheers,
    --
    Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflord

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