Member of a gym having little luck with aerobics

Mump said:

Started at 300 on Jan 1. Now am at 284.

I do aerobics onan eliptical machine 5 times a week, with 3 days of
assisted pull-ups.

I feel like, for all my hard work, I should be losing more weight, or at
least looking a bit better than I do.

With free weights and resistance training, I admit those things have me
a little intimidated. Where do I start?

First, watch out for our Tourette's Syndrome Name-Morphing Troll. Any
advice you get that refers to your anus is from It, no matter whose name
is on the header.

Second, go read the site that everyone else is going to send you to.
Don't worry that it's aimed at women, it's a great place to learn.

http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php

Third, it's about diet more than exercise. Weightlifting is certainly a
good way to partition weight loss more towards fat (while preserving
lean) but in the end you're going to have to learn how to eat as a
slender person, which means you have to change your diet.

I recommend you hang out at alt.support.diet. This place can help you -
and will help you - if you can see past the troll. But you will find
more commaradery there.

Dally

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:46:38 GMT, Mump <[email hidden]>

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Started at 300 on Jan 1. Now am at 284.

I do aerobics onan eliptical machine 5 times a week, with 3 days of
assisted pull-ups.

I feel like, for all my hard work, I should be losing more weight, or at
least looking a bit better than I do.

With free weights and resistance training, I admit those things have me
a little intimidated. Where do I start?

By sending me a viseo. Watching fat people exercise is pretty hilare!

Dally said:

First, watch out for our Tourette's Syndrome Name-Morphing Troll. Any
advice you get that refers to your anus is from It, no matter whose name
is on the header.

No FIRST, don't take diet advice from an overweight ton of lard. This
is like taking advice on making love to woman, from Michael Jackson.

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Second, go read the site that everyone else is going to send you to.
Don't worry that it's aimed at women, it's a great place to learn.

http://www.stumptudus.com/cms/index.php

Of course you'll grow a [censored] if you do, butt that's ok with Dully,
since she'll eat you out.

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Third, it's about diet more than exercise. Weightlifting is certainly a
good way to partition weight loss more towards fat (while preserving
lean) but in the end you're going to have to learn how to eat as a
slender person, which means you have to change your diet.

I recommend you hang out at alt.support.diet. This place can help you -
and will help you - if you can see past the troll. But you will find
more commaradery there.

Dally

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Dally said:

First, watch out for our Tourette's Syndrome Name-Morphing Troll. Any
advice you get that refers to your anus is from It, no matter whose name
is on the header.

No FIRST, don't take diet advice from an overweight ton of lard. This
is like taking advice on making love to woman, from Michael Jackson.

Quoted message said:

Second, go read the site that everyone else is going to send you to.
Don't worry that it's aimed at women, it's a great place to learn.

http://www.stumptudus.com/cms/index.php

Of course you'll grow a [censored] if you do, butt that's ok with Dully,
since she'll eat you out.

Quoted message said:

Third, it's about diet more than exercise. Weightlifting is certainly a
good way to partition weight loss more towards fat (while preserving
lean) but in the end you're going to have to learn how to eat as a
slender person, which means you have to change your diet.

I recommend you hang out at alt.support.diet. This place can help you -
and will help you - if you can see past the troll. But you will find
more commaradery there.

Dally

Dally said:

Mump said:

Started at 300 on Jan 1. Now am at 284.

I do aerobics onan eliptical machine 5 times a week, with 3 days of
assisted pull-ups.

I feel like, for all my hard work, I should be losing more weight, or at
least looking a bit better than I do.

With free weights and resistance training, I admit those things have me
a little intimidated. Where do I start?

First, watch out for our Tourette's Syndrome Name-Morphing Troll. Any
advice you get that refers to your anus is from It, no matter whose name
is on the header.

Second, go read the site that everyone else is going to send you to.
Don't worry that it's aimed at women, it's a great place to learn.

http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php

Third, it's about diet more than exercise. Weightlifting is certainly a
good way to partition weight loss more towards fat (while preserving
lean) but in the end you're going to have to learn how to eat as a
slender person, which means you have to change your diet.

I recommend you hang out at alt.support.diet. This place can help you -
and will help you - if you can see past the troll. But you will find
more commaradery there.

I believe you may have meant camaraderie, which is not a spelling pull
but simply drawing attention to the fact that you are using a word
with which you are not totally unfamiliar.

This is in line with your usual modus operandi which is based loosely
on the old adage "Fools rush in where Angels fear to tread."

Here is a word from our sponsors:

NEWSFLASH:

Stop using Gladys Clantry's Clitoris Cleaner - Gladys has just died of
a clot on the [censored].

Source:

Johnny Doughboy, United States Marines.

HTH ;o)

Weight loss is more about food than exercise, a decent healthy diet makes
you lose weight, exercise keep you from looking like a boneless chicken once
you're done losing.

Somebody will give you the stupendeous (however it's spelled) website URL..
good one.. there's plenty of good ressources online.. but I would give a
good look at what you eat.

G-luck
Will~

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Started at 300 on Jan 1. Now am at 284.

I do aerobics onan eliptical machine 5 times a week, with 3 days of
assisted pull-ups.

I feel like, for all my hard work, I should be losing more weight, or at
least looking a bit better than I do.

With free weights and resistance training, I admit those things have me a
little intimidated. Where do I start?

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No FIRST, don't take diet advice from an overweight ton of lard. This

is like taking advice on making love to woman, from Michael Jackson.<<

And you would know you walking buttplug.

EatMe said:

And you would know you walking buttplug.

Indeed I do, indeed I do.

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EatMe said:

And you would know you walking buttplug.

Indeed I do, indeed I do.

Well, thanks all of you for next to no help at all.

Mump said:

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EatMe said:

And you would know you walking buttplug.

Indeed I do, indeed I do.

Well, thanks all of you for next to no help at all.

You have to learn to ignore the trolls. Did you go to Krista's web
site like Dally suggested? If not, the fault is yours.

Mump said:

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On 21 Mar 2006 17:00:33 -0800, "EatMe" <[email hidden]> wrote:

You reply to people who have Perv & Troll in their name, but not me or
Willow?

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Well, thanks all of you for next to no help at all.

Please just save me time. What answer did you WANT?

Dally

JMW said:

Mump said:

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On 21 Mar 2006 17:00:33 -0800, "EatMe" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>And you would know you walking buttplug.

Indeed I do, indeed I do.

Well, thanks all of you for next to no help at all.

You have to learn to ignore the trolls. Did you go to Krista's web
site like Dally suggested? If not, the fault is yours.

I did. It was helpful to some degree. I didn't say "NO" help. I said
"next to".

So tell me this:

Is it worthless to do 28 minutes of aerobic excercise every day without
weight training?

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JMW said:

Mump said:

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>On 21 Mar 2006 17:00:33 -0800, "EatMe" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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>>And you would know you walking buttplug.
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>Indeed I do, indeed I do.

Well, thanks all of you for next to no help at all.

You have to learn to ignore the trolls. Did you go to Krista's web
site like Dally suggested? If not, the fault is yours.

I did. It was helpful to some degree. I didn't say "NO" help. I said "next
to".

So tell me this:

Is it worthless to do 28 minutes of aerobic excercise every day without
weight training?

Yes and no. All exercise is good, and your cardiovascular system needs
exercise.

But in looking at it from purely a "weight loss" perspective, I think you
are more productive with resistance training ALONG WITH controlling your
diet. From a weight loss perspective, cardio in nothing but a tool to burn
that extra 400 calories that day. If you go home an eat an extra bowl of
cereal for dessert, you've just completely negated the cardio...from a
weight loss perspective. Many people think that if they go to the gym, that
gives them license to eat whatever they want when they get home. Nothing
could be farther from the truth. Weight loss comes down to calories in vs.
calories out. If you eat under your AMR (active metabolic rate), you'll
lose weight. Period.

First, when your run, you burn those ~400 calories to be sure. But, that's
basically it. The next day, if you don't run, you're right back to square
one from a AMR perspective. In other words, your metabolism isn't much
better off.

When you resistance train, you obviously burn calories while lifting. But
your muscles will be busy repairing themselves over the next day or so.
They need energy to repair. That comes from calories. The post workout
calorie burn is MUCH higher than from aerobic exercise. In addition, you're
increasing your LBM (lean body mass), which increases your metabolism.
You'll continue to burn calories at a higher rate on your off days. Muscle
consumes calories in a sedentary state. Fat doesn't.

If you want weight loss, you MUST track everything that passes over your
gums. Fitday.com is a great site for that and it's free.

Have you ever noticed that you see all the fat people on the cardio
equipment, and all the lean people out on the weight floor? Maybe there's a
reason for that?

-Larry

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Larry, Dally, excellent, and thank you!

Dally, can you please define "short but intense cardio routines"?

http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/displayarticle.php?aid=32

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Was Mistress Krista's site the one I was referred to earlier

If you are referring to http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php
then yes, it was.

Art

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 05:32:20 GMT, "Art S" <[email hidden]>

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If you are referring to http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php
then yes, it was.

I just came twice.

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 05:32:20 GMT, "Art S" <[email hidden]>

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"Mump" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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Larry, Dally, excellent, and thank you!

Dally, can you please define "short but intense cardio routines"?

http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/displayarticle.php?aid=32

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Was Mistress Krista's site the one I was referred to earlier

If you are referring to http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php
then yes, it was.

What a gem to return with Art; you've lost none of your old skills my
friend! ;o)

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On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 05:32:20 GMT, "Art S" <[email hidden]>

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"Mump" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Larry, Dally, excellent, and thank you!

Dally, can you please define "short but intense cardio routines"?

http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/displayarticle.php?aid=32

Quoted message said:

Was Mistress Krista's site the one I was referred to earlier

If you are referring to http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php
then yes, it was.

What a gem to return with Art; you've lost none of your old skills my
friend! ;o)

Yes, you can see that he was saving that one up.

David said:

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On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 05:32:20 GMT, "Art S" <[email hidden]>

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"Mump" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>Larry, Dally, excellent, and thank you!
>
>Dally, can you please define "short but intense cardio routines"?

http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/displayarticle.php?aid=32

>Was Mistress Krista's site the one I was referred to earlier

If you are referring to http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php
then yes, it was.

What a gem to return with Art; you've lost none of your old skills my
friend! ;o)

Yes, you can see that he was saving that one up.

I guess the joke is an inside one.

Thanks anyhow. Very helpful on the face of it.

You losing about 2% a month.
Thats very good sustained rate.
If you lose too fast your body may go into
starvation mode and put on weight real
fast should you stop dieting.
Your skin and muscle tone may be able
shrink at this pace, so you minimize stretch
marks and sagging skin.