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  1. OK, so I wanted a new kitchen toy and I'm on a tight budget for a while and
    my wife and I ate recently at an Italian restaurant where the waiter hand
    grated the cheese over the dish with one of those rotary thingies. So I
    said "Voila!" (not speaking enough Italian to know the equivalent
    expression in that language), and went off in search of one. And nothing
    ever being as simple as first conceived, I quickly discovered that there is
    a great range in price, that some have multiple barrels and some only one,
    some come apart and some don't, some (according to reviews) work and some
    don't, etc.

    So does anyone have a favorite rotary grater that handles fine, medium, and
    coarse, and does cheeses, nuts and chocolate, that they'd care to
    recommend?

    TIA...

  2. Alan Holbrook said:

    So does anyone have a favorite rotary grater that handles fine, medium, and
    coarse, and does cheeses, nuts and chocolate, that they'd care to
    recommend?

    Well, I've always loved my Mouli grater. My mom bought me a zyliss when
    the Mouli broke, but the Zyliss would get softer cheeses stuck in the
    center of the grater and I'd hafta poke it out with a knife every 3
    turns or so.

    The mouli comes with a medium shred, a fine shred, and a slicer. Never
    do use the slicer but do cheese, carrots, zucchini, nuts, etc, on the
    shredders.

    Only problem I've encounteres is that the plastic handles are not
    nearly as sturdy, but the metal grater has a tendency to turn the neds
    of my cheese an icky metallic looking color. Not a problem if it's
    going into a casserole, but ugly for a salad.

  3. "Alan Holbrook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    OK, so I wanted a new kitchen toy and I'm on a tight budget for a while
    and
    my wife and I ate recently at an Italian restaurant where the waiter hand
    grated the cheese over the dish with one of those rotary thingies. So I
    said "Voila!" (not speaking enough Italian to know the equivalent
    expression in that language), and went off in search of one. And nothing
    ever being as simple as first conceived, I quickly discovered that there
    is
    a great range in price, that some have multiple barrels and some only one,
    some come apart and some don't, some (according to reviews) work and some
    don't, etc.

    So does anyone have a favorite rotary grater that handles fine, medium,
    and
    coarse, and does cheeses, nuts and chocolate, that they'd care to
    recommend?

    TIA...

    Do NOT buy one that doesn't come apart. And, keep a large toothbrush around
    for cleaning around the teeth. They'll shred sponges.

  4. Alan Holbrook said:

    OK, so I wanted a new kitchen toy and I'm on a tight budget for a
    while and my wife and I ate recently at an Italian restaurant where
    the waiter hand grated the cheese over the dish with one of those
    rotary thingies. [...]
    So does anyone have a favorite rotary grater

    Well, I *do* have at least a surviving grater after I tried a couple of
    different ones and they all passed away after a few times of using them.
    This one (http://tinyurl.com/fqyua) has been working fine now for about
    six years. As the victim of my cooking experiments mostly needs *lots*
    of grated Parmigiano or Grana Padano on her food to stand it, the grater
    is in really heavy use.

    It's manufactured by Kuechenprofi in Solingen, Germany and it's being
    sold for about 16 euro ($20) here in the old world. If I would live in
    the States, I'd get me something like Williams-Sonoma's Microplane
    Rotary Grater (http://tinyurl.com/h3r7s) instead. It has a plastic body
    but it seemed to be sturdy and functional when I was holding it in my
    hand lately.

    Jens

  5. Jens Arne Maennig said:

    If I would live in
    the States, I'd get me something like Williams-Sonoma's Microplane
    Rotary Grater (http://tinyurl.com/h3r7s) instead.

    Quoted message said:


    Jens

    Microplanes in general make lousy grated cheese. I mean it will gate the
    cheese ok, but into dust! Using a microplane on reggiano parmigiano
    should be illegal. <g>

  6. "jay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Jens Arne Maennig said:

    If I would live in
    the States, I'd get me something like Williams-Sonoma's Microplane
    Rotary Grater (http://tinyurl.com/h3r7s) instead.

    Quoted message said:


    Jens

    Microplanes in general make lousy grated cheese. I mean it will gate the
    cheese ok, but into dust! Using a microplane on reggiano parmigiano
    should be illegal. <g>

    It *is* illegal, but rarely enforced.

  7. jay said:

    On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:35:39 +0200, Jens Arne Maennig wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If I would live in the States, I'd get me something like
    Williams-Sonoma's Microplane Rotary Grater
    (http://tinyurl.com/h3r7s) instead.

    Microplanes in general make lousy grated cheese. I mean it will gate
    the cheese ok, but into dust! Using a microplane on reggiano
    parmigiano should be illegal. <g>

    Thanks for the info. I never tried any tool with the microplane system.
    I would like to change my statement to:

    | If I would live in the States, I would never get me something like
    | Williams-Sonoma's Microplane Rotary Grater.

    Jens

  8. "Alan Holbrook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    OK, so I wanted a new kitchen toy and I'm on a tight budget for a while
    and
    my wife and I ate recently at an Italian restaurant where the waiter hand
    grated the cheese over the dish with one of those rotary thingies. So I
    said "Voila!" (not speaking enough Italian to know the equivalent
    expression in that language), and went off in search of one. And nothing
    ever being as simple as first conceived, I quickly discovered that there
    is
    a great range in price, that some have multiple barrels and some only one,
    some come apart and some don't, some (according to reviews) work and some
    don't, etc.

    So does anyone have a favorite rotary grater that handles fine, medium,
    and
    coarse, and does cheeses, nuts and chocolate, that they'd care to
    recommend?

    TIA...

    I bought the Zyliss with the big drum. It looks a bit weird, but so far I've
    been happy with it. Honestly, most graters handle hard cheeses well enough,
    but are lousy with anything slightly soft. So the instructions say to freeze
    the cheese first. The Zyliss (with the big drum, I don't know about the ones
    with the normal-sized drums) does softer cheeses {like Swiss or cheddar)
    very well.

    It only has two drums, the fine, which you'd normally use for harder cheeses
    like parmesan, and the coarse, which is meant for soft cheeses. It comes
    apart and goes into the dishwasher. The handle folds into the drum, so it
    stores a little easier.

    The one thing I never liked about the rotary graters is the awkwardness of
    holding the thing closed and applying pressure while you grate. It's okay
    for a little while, but it doesn't take long before I start getting a cramp
    in my hand. A rubber band around the handle solved the problem really well.
    You might still need to apply a little more pressure, but it makes the job a
    lot easier.

    HTH,

    Donna

  9. Alan Holbrook said:

    So does anyone have a favorite rotary grater that handles fine, medium, and
    coarse, and does cheeses, nuts and chocolate, that they'd care to
    recommend?

    I was going to recommend a 3-legged hand powered rotary disc grater,
    like the discs in a Cuisinart, but they seem to have diappeared off
    the face of the Earth. All I see know are these lame rotary drum
    graters. Too bad, as the rotary disc graters where very efficient.
    We had one when I was a kid and they worked great. I could grate a
    1lb block of cheese in a couple mins. I saw one several years ago in
    a store, but now I can't find one anywhere on the net.

    The other thing that drives me crazy is the morons that design those
    cheapo should-be-handy 3-in-1 flat hand graters. They all arange the
    grate holes the same way, a coarse and fine grate separated lengthwise
    by a single slice slot. How in the Hell can anyone grate something in
    4 rows of grate holes!?. It's like they design them to hang on the
    wall as a decorative item, not an actual tool. I have an old model
    that has the fine and coarse grate holes running side by side the full
    length of the grater (slicer slot still in middle), the way it should
    be. This design is quite useable and what I use to grate all my
    cheese. Haven't been able to find a new one like it in 20 years.

    nb

  10. "notbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Alan Holbrook said:

    So does anyone have a favorite rotary grater that handles fine, medium,
    and
    coarse, and does cheeses, nuts and chocolate, that they'd care to
    recommend?

    I was going to recommend a 3-legged hand powered rotary disc grater,
    like the discs in a Cuisinart, but they seem to have diappeared off
    the face of the Earth. All I see know are these lame rotary drum
    graters. Too bad, as the rotary disc graters where very efficient.
    We had one when I was a kid and they worked great. I could grate a
    1lb block of cheese in a couple mins. I saw one several years ago in
    a store, but now I can't find one anywhere on the net.

    this one?

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E7VJ18/qid=1145989520/sr=1-15/ref=sr_1_15/002-3054847-7520855?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=kitchen&v=glance&n=284507

    Donna

  11. D.Currie said:

    this one?

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E7VJ18/qid=1145989520/sr=1-15/ref=sr_1_15/002-3054847-7520855?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=kitchen&v=glance&n=284507

    Donna

    Way to go, Donna! I swear, I looked through 7 pages of graters on
    amazon and didn't see that. But yes, that's very much like the one
    our family had when I was a kid. Only diff is ours was all stainless
    steel. Sucker will blow those hand drum graters away.

    These days, I use a 3-in-1 hand grater for cheese, a small fine
    handled grater, that wood rasp thingie for zest, and a small drum
    zyliss for romano/pecorino. But, these are only adequate because I
    only cook for one or two. If I didn't have a Cuisinart for large
    grating jobs, I'd buy that manual rotary disc grater.

    nb

  12. I you want a new toy and this is what you want, go for it. At the risk of
    soudning discouraging: myself, I woudl look into a different. toy. I ahve
    lived in a household with a rotary graer, have used it, have watched others
    use it and never got to like it. The ONLY thing we ever "needed"it for was
    cheese. Which woudl stick to it too mcuh. And then there was the cramp in my
    hand, clean up and the problem of not manaing to get everything grated, bit
    after inserted bit of cheese. Which also had to cut into a specific shape.

    Now I won a flat metal grater, which is much easier for my purposes. And I
    have something that looks like a cheese sliver but has a grating blade
    instead. Excellent for cheese for pasta etc. Third one from the top:
    http://www.boska.nl/constructie/producten/prodcode/306835_308040.htm

    So, if I were to get a new toy, I'd look into other things. Such as muslin,
    or a passevite, or a pressure cooker, or a mandolin. Or a better chef's
    knife. I really ant a slow cooker, too. Will wait until they start selling
    those here, with the plgus required here.

  13. "notbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    D.Currie said:

    this one?

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E7VJ18/qid=1145989520/sr=1-15/ref=sr_1_15/002-3054847-7520855?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=kitchen&v=glance&n=284507

    Donna

    Way to go, Donna! I swear, I looked through 7 pages of graters on
    amazon and didn't see that. But yes, that's very much like the one
    our family had when I was a kid. Only diff is ours was all stainless
    steel. Sucker will blow those hand drum graters away.

    These days, I use a 3-in-1 hand grater for cheese, a small fine
    handled grater, that wood rasp thingie for zest, and a small drum
    zyliss for romano/pecorino. But, these are only adequate because I
    only cook for one or two. If I didn't have a Cuisinart for large
    grating jobs, I'd buy that manual rotary disc grater.

    nb

    I saw that model and there might have been another one when I was looking
    for something else. It looked interesting, but I've got enough grating
    gizmos. I can grate with the food processor or with the Kitchenaid if I need
    a lot of cheese. Mostly, I just need a little bit for some recipe. The
    big-drum Zyliss is usually the first thing I grab, but I've got an
    assortment of microplanes, too, if I want some other texture.

    That three-legged thing looks like it would be kind of fun to use, and less
    likely to bite up a fingertip or knuckle than some of the more manual
    graters.

    Donna

  14. D.Currie said:

    That three-legged thing looks like it would be kind of fun to use, and less
    likely to bite up a fingertip or knuckle than some of the more manual
    graters.

    If I can safely use it, anyone can ...and I was only 8 yrs old.

    nb

  15. Alan Holbrook said:

    OK, so I wanted a new kitchen toy and I'm on a tight budget for a
    while and my wife and I ate recently at an Italian restaurant where
    the waiter hand grated the cheese over the dish with one of those
    rotary thingies. So I said "Voila!" (not speaking enough Italian to
    know the equivalent expression in that language), and went off in
    search of one. And nothing ever being as simple as first conceived,
    I quickly discovered that there is a great range in price, that some
    have multiple barrels and some only one, some come apart and some
    don't, some (according to reviews) work and some don't, etc.

    So does anyone have a favorite rotary grater that handles fine,
    medium, and coarse, and does cheeses, nuts and chocolate, that they'd
    care to recommend?

    TIA...

    I don't have a specific recommendation but you might inquire at the
    restaurant what brand/type of grater they use.

    Jill

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