Re: Vandeman calls mountain bikers "liars" and "criminals" then surprised by hate mail!

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> They haven't so far. The National Forest Service management rulings
> came out last year and allow bicycle access coordinated through local
> land managers. What that means, mr. notsogreat, is that off-road
> cycling has been recognized as a viable, non-motorized method of
> exploring many of the parks and trails in the Country.
> Local organizations are cooperating between cycling, hiking, equestrian
> and other environmental preservation groups for the larger picture of
> slowing sprawl and construction rather than bickering on how to access
> a trail. Yours and Vandeman's hatred of off-road cyclists' has done
> nothing but galvenize cyclists into a cohesive and educated block of
> individuals with real information to counter the slander and bias that
> once was taken for granted. You, Vandeman and myself will be gone at
> some point, but with the help of recreationists' interests, perhaps
> some of the natural space will be preserved well beyond our parting. If
> you want to spend the rest of your days whining about your "sacred"
> footpaths, go forth and do so. Just always remember, your voice is no
> more important than mine.

Mountain bikers are their own worst enemies. They will self-destruct
like all slobs do and eventually be banned from all hiking trails. The
wilderness and my sacred footpaths are for the cognoscenti, not for slob
mountain bikers. It takes brains to be able to appreciate wilderness,
something that mountain bikers sorely lack.

It must not take a lot of brains... You claim to do it.

Not everyone can be a genius like me. You are forgiven your ignorance
since it is the common lot of mankind.

Whew... Conan the Librarian forgives me... Oh thank the Lord and pass the
gravy...
When you say "genius"... You mean as in "Wile E. Coyote" genius... Don't
ya?

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>> I would like to remind you that we humans came out of the wild
>> ourselves and, in fact, we are just about the only wild animals left
>> on the surface of the earth. What is needed is a genetics program to
>> domesticate ourselves, the same way we have domesticated sheep and all
>> the other farm animals. A wild animal in its' natural habitat is way
>> too good for the likes of you. You belong in a pig pen with all the
>> other pigs.
>
> You HAVE been overexposed to Vandeman. Now you are just making
> non-statements and vague threats of reference. You better have some
> warm milk and calm down. That button on the headboard will ring the
> nurse and she will bring your medication.

You need to read, besides "1984", "Brave New World", after which you
will despair of mankind as I have. The only solution for what ails us is
death. Long Live Death!

You need to read a comic book. Or be in one...

There is no substitute for reading our betters. It is just about the only
way we ever learn anything. For instance, I will never learn anything from
you on these freaking newsgroups. If you want to make an impression on me,
you will have to get busy and write many volumes like Gibbon (The Decline
and Fall of the Roman Empire) and Toynbee (A Study of History) did. Then,
and only then, will I perhaps take you seriously. I urge you to get to
work writing a definitive multi-volume work on the impact of mountain
biking in the modern world. Who knows, once you embark on this great work,
you may end up in the same corner as Vandeman and me.

Since there is no substitute for "reading our betters", I can certainly stop
reading your posts... As you are of no consequence and certainly not my
"better".

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>>
>> They haven't so far. The National Forest Service management rulings
>> came out last year and allow bicycle access coordinated through local
>> land managers. What that means, mr. notsogreat, is that off-road
>> cycling has been recognized as a viable, non-motorized method of
>> exploring many of the parks and trails in the Country.
>> Local organizations are cooperating between cycling, hiking,
>> equestrian and other environmental preservation groups for the larger
>> picture of slowing sprawl and construction rather than bickering on
>> how to access a trail. Yours and Vandeman's hatred of off-road
>> cyclists' has done nothing but galvenize cyclists into a cohesive and
>> educated block of individuals with real information to counter the
>> slander and bias that once was taken for granted. You, Vandeman and
>> myself will be gone at some point, but with the help of
>> recreationists' interests, perhaps some of the natural space will be
>> preserved well beyond our parting. If you want to spend the rest of
>> your days whining about your "sacred" footpaths, go forth and do so.
>> Just always remember, your voice is no more important than mine.
>
> Mountain bikers are their own worst enemies. They will self-destruct
> like all slobs do and eventually be banned from all hiking trails. The
> wilderness and my sacred footpaths are for the cognoscenti, not for
> slob mountain bikers. It takes brains to be able to appreciate
> wilderness, something that mountain bikers sorely lack.

It must not take a lot of brains... You claim to do it.

Not everyone can be a genius like me. You are forgiven your ignorance
since it is the common lot of mankind.

Whew... Conan the Librarian forgives me... Oh thank the Lord and pass
the gravy...
When you say "genius"... You mean as in "Wile E. Coyote" genius... Don't
ya?

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>>> I would like to remind you that we humans came out of the wild
>>> ourselves and, in fact, we are just about the only wild animals left
>>> on the surface of the earth. What is needed is a genetics program to
>>> domesticate ourselves, the same way we have domesticated sheep and
>>> all the other farm animals. A wild animal in its' natural habitat is
>>> way too good for the likes of you. You belong in a pig pen with all
>>> the other pigs.
>>
>> You HAVE been overexposed to Vandeman. Now you are just making
>> non-statements and vague threats of reference. You better have some
>> warm milk and calm down. That button on the headboard will ring the
>> nurse and she will bring your medication.
>
> You need to read, besides "1984", "Brave New World", after which you
> will despair of mankind as I have. The only solution for what ails us
> is death. Long Live Death!
>
You need to read a comic book. Or be in one...

There is no substitute for reading our betters. It is just about the only
way we ever learn anything. For instance, I will never learn anything
from you on these freaking newsgroups. If you want to make an impression
on me, you will have to get busy and write many volumes like Gibbon (The
Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire) and Toynbee (A Study of History)
did. Then, and only then, will I perhaps take you seriously. I urge you
to get to work writing a definitive multi-volume work on the impact of
mountain biking in the modern world. Who knows, once you embark on this
great work, you may end up in the same corner as Vandeman and me.

Since there is no substitute for "reading our betters", I can certainly
stop reading your posts... As you are of no consequence and certainly not
my "better".

I have gathered from your woeful lack of intelligence that you only read
junk science research which purports to show that biking and hiking are one
and the same thing - when any fool knows they are vastly different.

Curtiss, I urge you to get to a library and read something that was written
several hundred years ago. Most of what is presently being written today is
not good for you and will rot your brain. I suggest you begin with
Shakespeare and work your way up to the end of the 19th century. Anything
written after 1900 is not good for you and will make you even worse than you
already are. I plead with you to get some culture and to give up your slob
mountain biking ways.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

PS. Be sure to get to work right away writing the definitive history of the
impact of mountain biking on the modern world.

Does anyone else hear a gnat...?

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I have gathered from your woeful lack of intelligence that you only read
junk science research which purports to show that biking and hiking are
one and the same thing - when any fool knows they are vastly different.

....as opposed to junk science research which purports to show only that
biking is more harmful than hiking....?
Since you and MV are proclaiming the differences, it looks as if you are
also the "fool" you reference.

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Curtiss, I urge you to get to a library and read something that was
written several hundred years ago. Most of what is presently being written
today is not good for you and will rot your brain. I suggest you begin
with Shakespeare and work your way up to the end of the 19th century.
Anything written after 1900 is not good for you and will make you even
worse than you already are. I plead with you to get some culture and to
give up your slob mountain biking ways.

So now the great "Conan the Librarian" is pleading....? I don't need
Shakespeare to read a tragedy - I can do that by looking at Vandeman's
webpage.

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Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

PS. Be sure to get to work right away writing the definitive history of
the impact of mountain biking on the modern world.

At least it would be more entertaining than reading the one-word history of
the impact of Dolan on the modern world. (Dolan=Null)
No thanks - I believe I would rather ride and experience it first hand....

"S Curtiss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Does anyone else hear a gnat...?

"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I have gathered from your woeful lack of intelligence that you only read
junk science research which purports to show that biking and hiking are
one and the same thing - when any fool knows they are vastly different.

...as opposed to junk science research which purports to show only that
biking is more harmful than hiking....?
Since you and MV are proclaiming the differences, it looks as if you are
also the "fool" you reference.

Mountain bikers are into nothing but fun and games. Hikers are philosophers
who are into deep thinking about humankind and the universe. They certainly
do not belong on the same trails together.

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Curtiss, I urge you to get to a library and read something that was
written several hundred years ago. Most of what is presently being
written today is not good for you and will rot your brain. I suggest you
begin with Shakespeare and work your way up to the end of the 19th
century. Anything written after 1900 is not good for you and will make
you even worse than you already are. I plead with you to get some culture
and to give up your slob mountain biking ways.

So now the great "Conan the Librarian" is pleading....? I don't need
Shakespeare to read a tragedy - I can do that by looking at Vandeman's
webpage.

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PS. Be sure to get to work right away writing the definitive history of
the impact of mountain biking on the modern world.

At least it would be more entertaining than reading the one-word history
of the impact of Dolan on the modern world. (Dolan=Null)
No thanks - I believe I would rather ride and experience it first hand...

Personal experience is only worth so much. It has to be checked against the
experience of many others. Those who write books have generally thought
about a subject quite extensively. Do less riding and more writing and maybe
you will get clearer in your mind about what matters in this world. I assure
you that mountain biking matters hardly at all whereas what the Great Ed
Dolan thinks matters enormously.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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"S Curtiss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Does anyone else hear a gnat...?

"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I have gathered from your woeful lack of intelligence that you only read
junk science research which purports to show that biking and hiking are
one and the same thing - when any fool knows they are vastly different.

...as opposed to junk science research which purports to show only that
biking is more harmful than hiking....?
Since you and MV are proclaiming the differences, it looks as if you are
also the "fool" you reference.

Mountain bikers are into nothing but fun and games. Hikers are
philosophers who are into deep thinking about humankind and the universe.
They certainly do not belong on the same trails together.

Hmmm... A lot of the hikers I see are loud, walking all over the trail and
off it, leaving trash behind, carrying and drinking alcohol, being careless
about their own safety and others... Yep. Hikers are certainly the cream
of the crop of humanity.
Don't insult us with your wishful generalizations. You may venture out with
that frame of mind, but do NOT place all hikers in that very small subset.
And, by the same logic, you can not reference all off-road cyclists' motives
based on either your opinion of the activity or the actions of a minority to
which you may (or simply claim to) witness.

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Curtiss, I urge you to get to a library and read something that was
written several hundred years ago. Most of what is presently being
written today is not good for you and will rot your brain. I suggest
you begin with Shakespeare and work your way up to the end of the 19th
century. Anything written after 1900 is not good for you and will make
you even worse than you already are. I plead with you to get some
culture and to give up your slob mountain biking ways.

So now the great "Conan the Librarian" is pleading....? I don't need
Shakespeare to read a tragedy - I can do that by looking at Vandeman's
webpage.

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PS. Be sure to get to work right away writing the definitive history of
the impact of mountain biking on the modern world.

At least it would be more entertaining than reading the one-word history
of the impact of Dolan on the modern world. (Dolan=Null)
No thanks - I believe I would rather ride and experience it first hand...

Personal experience is only worth so much. It has to be checked against
the experience of many others. Those who write books have generally
thought about a subject quite extensively. Do less riding and more writing
and maybe you will get clearer in your mind about what matters in this
world. I assure you that mountain biking matters hardly at all whereas
what the Great Ed Dolan thinks matters enormously.

...and where is the published work of Ed Dolan? (I already know you are not
"Edward F. Dolan".)

Again... I think it is more advantageous I get out on the bike and see some
trees. As far as what the "not so great ed dolan (Conan the Librarian)"
thinks about anything...
http://www.weirdlittlebiscuit.com/images/b3ta/donkey.jpg

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Edward Dolan said:

"S Curtiss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Does anyone else hear a gnat...?

"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I have gathered from your woeful lack of intelligence that you only read
junk science research which purports to show that biking and hiking are
one and the same thing - when any fool knows they are vastly different.

...as opposed to junk science research which purports to show only that
biking is more harmful than hiking....?
Since you and MV are proclaiming the differences, it looks as if you are
also the "fool" you reference.

Mountain bikers are into nothing but fun and games. Hikers are
philosophers who are into deep thinking about humankind and the universe.
They certainly do not belong on the same trails together.

Dolan,
Do you have a single brain cell that isn't confused by it's own delusion of
greatness?
I ride to the mountains just to enjoy the isolation and sounds of nature,
not traffic.
Bill Baka

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Curtiss, I urge you to get to a library and read something that was
written several hundred years ago. Most of what is presently being
written today is not good for you and will rot your brain. I suggest
you begin with Shakespeare and work your way up to the end of the 19th
century. Anything written after 1900 is not good for you and will make
you even worse than you already are. I plead with you to get some
culture and to give up your slob mountain biking ways.

So now the great "Conan the Librarian" is pleading....? I don't need
Shakespeare to read a tragedy - I can do that by looking at Vandeman's
webpage.

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PS. Be sure to get to work right away writing the definitive history of
the impact of mountain biking on the modern world.

At least it would be more entertaining than reading the one-word history
of the impact of Dolan on the modern world. (Dolan=Null)
No thanks - I believe I would rather ride and experience it first hand...

Personal experience is only worth so much. It has to be checked against
the experience of many others. Those who write books have generally
thought about a subject quite extensively. Do less riding and more writing
and maybe you will get clearer in your mind about what matters in this
world. I assure you that mountain biking matters hardly at all whereas
what the Great Ed Dolan thinks matters enormously.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

On Sun, 28 May 2006 11:57:55 -0400, "S Curtiss" <[email hidden]>

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Does anyone else hear a gnat...?

"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I have gathered from your woeful lack of intelligence that you only read
> junk science research which purports to show that biking and hiking are
> one and the same thing - when any fool knows they are vastly different.

...as opposed to junk science research which purports to show only that
biking is more harmful than hiking....?
Since you and MV are proclaiming the differences, it looks as if you are
also the "fool" you reference.

Mountain bikers are into nothing but fun and games. Hikers are
philosophers who are into deep thinking about humankind and the universe.
They certainly do not belong on the same trails together.

Hmmm... A lot of the hikers I see are loud, walking all over the trail and
off it, leaving trash behind, carrying and drinking alcohol, being careless
about their own safety and others... Yep. Hikers are certainly the cream
of the crop of humanity.
Don't insult us with your wishful generalizations. You may venture out with
that frame of mind, but do NOT place all hikers in that very small subset.
And, by the same logic, you can not reference all off-road cyclists' motives
based on either your opinion of the activity or the actions of a minority to
which you may (or simply claim to) witness.

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> Curtiss, I urge you to get to a library and read something that was
> written several hundred years ago. Most of what is presently being
> written today is not good for you and will rot your brain. I suggest
> you begin with Shakespeare and work your way up to the end of the 19th
> century. Anything written after 1900 is not good for you and will make
> you even worse than you already are. I plead with you to get some
> culture and to give up your slob mountain biking ways.

So now the great "Conan the Librarian" is pleading....? I don't need
Shakespeare to read a tragedy - I can do that by looking at Vandeman's
webpage.

> PS. Be sure to get to work right away writing the definitive history of
> the impact of mountain biking on the modern world.
>
>
At least it would be more entertaining than reading the one-word history
of the impact of Dolan on the modern world. (Dolan=Null)
No thanks - I believe I would rather ride and experience it first hand...

Personal experience is only worth so much. It has to be checked against
the experience of many others. Those who write books have generally
thought about a subject quite extensively. Do less riding and more writing
and maybe you will get clearer in your mind about what matters in this
world. I assure you that mountain biking matters hardly at all whereas
what the Great Ed Dolan thinks matters enormously.

..and where is the published work of Ed Dolan? (I already know you are not
"Edward F. Dolan".)

Again... I think it is more advantageous I get out on the bike and see some
trees.

Since when is it necessary to bring along a BIKE in order to see
trees??? In fact, having to pay attention to controlling a BIKE
interferes with your ability to look at trees -- if you were honest.

As far as what the "not so great ed dolan (Conan the Librarian)"

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thinks about anything...
http://www.weirdlittlebiscuit.com/images/b3ta/donkey.jpg

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===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

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On Sun, 28 May 2006 11:57:55 -0400, "S Curtiss" <[email hidden]>

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>>
> At least it would be more entertaining than reading the one-word
> history
> of the impact of Dolan on the modern world. (Dolan=Null)
> No thanks - I believe I would rather ride and experience it first
> hand...

Personal experience is only worth so much. It has to be checked against
the experience of many others. Those who write books have generally
thought about a subject quite extensively. Do less riding and more
writing
and maybe you will get clearer in your mind about what matters in this
world. I assure you that mountain biking matters hardly at all whereas
what the Great Ed Dolan thinks matters enormously.

..and where is the published work of Ed Dolan? (I already know you are not
"Edward F. Dolan".)

Again... I think it is more advantageous I get out on the bike and see
some
trees.

Since when is it necessary to bring along a BIKE in order to see
trees??? In fact, having to pay attention to controlling a BIKE
interferes with your ability to look at trees -- if you were honest.

We've covered this - Your OPINION and lack of desire or ability is no
measure of the abilities of someone else. I can control a bike and look at
trees. Your lack of that ability, or desire to explore that ability, is
MEANINGLESS.
Since when is it necessary to use any type of tool to increase the
effectiveness of an activity?

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On Tue, 30 May 2006 14:48:43 -0400, "S Curtiss" <[email hidden]>

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"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Sun, 28 May 2006 11:57:55 -0400, "S Curtiss" <[email hidden]>

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>>>
>> At least it would be more entertaining than reading the one-word
>> history
>> of the impact of Dolan on the modern world. (Dolan=Null)
>> No thanks - I believe I would rather ride and experience it first
>> hand...
>
> Personal experience is only worth so much. It has to be checked against
> the experience of many others. Those who write books have generally
> thought about a subject quite extensively. Do less riding and more
> writing
> and maybe you will get clearer in your mind about what matters in this
> world. I assure you that mountain biking matters hardly at all whereas
> what the Great Ed Dolan thinks matters enormously.

..and where is the published work of Ed Dolan? (I already know you are not
"Edward F. Dolan".)

Again... I think it is more advantageous I get out on the bike and see
some
trees.

Since when is it necessary to bring along a BIKE in order to see
trees??? In fact, having to pay attention to controlling a BIKE
interferes with your ability to look at trees -- if you were honest.

We've covered this - Your OPINION and lack of desire or ability is no
measure of the abilities of someone else. I can control a bike and look at
trees. Your lack of that ability, or desire to explore that ability, is
MEANINGLESS.
Since when is it necessary to use any type of tool to increase the
effectiveness of an activity?

So you agree that it's not necessary to allow bikes off-road?
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

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On Tue, 30 May 2006 14:48:43 -0400, "S Curtiss" <[email hidden]>

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On Sun, 28 May 2006 11:57:55 -0400, "S Curtiss" <[email hidden]>
>>>>
>>> At least it would be more entertaining than reading the one-word
>>> history
>>> of the impact of Dolan on the modern world. (Dolan=Null)
>>> No thanks - I believe I would rather ride and experience it first
>>> hand...
>>
>> Personal experience is only worth so much. It has to be checked
>> against
>> the experience of many others. Those who write books have generally
>> thought about a subject quite extensively. Do less riding and more
>> writing
>> and maybe you will get clearer in your mind about what matters in this
>> world. I assure you that mountain biking matters hardly at all whereas
>> what the Great Ed Dolan thinks matters enormously.
>
>..and where is the published work of Ed Dolan? (I already know you are
>not
>"Edward F. Dolan".)
>
>Again... I think it is more advantageous I get out on the bike and see
>some
>trees.

Since when is it necessary to bring along a BIKE in order to see
trees??? In fact, having to pay attention to controlling a BIKE
interferes with your ability to look at trees -- if you were honest.

We've covered this - Your OPINION and lack of desire or ability is no
measure of the abilities of someone else. I can control a bike and look at
trees. Your lack of that ability, or desire to explore that ability, is
MEANINGLESS.
Since when is it necessary to use any type of tool to increase the
effectiveness of an activity?

So you agree that it's not necessary to allow bikes off-road?
===

Who said it was "necessary"...? Making something "necessary" (required, so
to speak) is a far cry from making, or keeping, it legal as an option. Your
insistence that it be banned simply because you do not choose to utilize it
as a tool is not necessary, either. The off-road bicycle is a tool, just as
a backpack or canteen is a tool. A loaded pack often weighs as much as a
bicycle. You argue for banning one tool based on your OPINIONS, which have
not been PROVEN to be anything but opinions. You scoff at other research,
often conducted by accredited researchers, if it counters your OPINIONS than
rally behind a battle of verbage and semantics when you get called on these
opinions.
What has been proven unnecessary are your writings, submissions and
opinions. Road construction continues. Sprawl continues. Habitat destruction
continues. And the ONLY thing you continue is to whine about bicycles...
That is no longer pathetic... It is simply a waste.

On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:01:46 -0400, "S Curtiss" <[email hidden]>

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On Tue, 30 May 2006 14:48:43 -0400, "S Curtiss" <[email hidden]>

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> On Sun, 28 May 2006 11:57:55 -0400, "S Curtiss" <[email hidden]>
>>>>>
>>>> At least it would be more entertaining than reading the one-word
>>>> history
>>>> of the impact of Dolan on the modern world. (Dolan=Null)
>>>> No thanks - I believe I would rather ride and experience it first
>>>> hand...
>>>
>>> Personal experience is only worth so much. It has to be checked
>>> against
>>> the experience of many others. Those who write books have generally
>>> thought about a subject quite extensively. Do less riding and more
>>> writing
>>> and maybe you will get clearer in your mind about what matters in this
>>> world. I assure you that mountain biking matters hardly at all whereas
>>> what the Great Ed Dolan thinks matters enormously.
>>
>>..and where is the published work of Ed Dolan? (I already know you are
>>not
>>"Edward F. Dolan".)
>>
>>Again... I think it is more advantageous I get out on the bike and see
>>some
>>trees.
>
> Since when is it necessary to bring along a BIKE in order to see
> trees??? In fact, having to pay attention to controlling a BIKE
> interferes with your ability to look at trees -- if you were honest.
We've covered this - Your OPINION and lack of desire or ability is no
measure of the abilities of someone else. I can control a bike and look at
trees. Your lack of that ability, or desire to explore that ability, is
MEANINGLESS.
Since when is it necessary to use any type of tool to increase the
effectiveness of an activity?

So you agree that it's not necessary to allow bikes off-road?
===

Who said it was "necessary"...? Making something "necessary" (required, so
to speak) is a far cry from making, or keeping, it legal as an option. Your
insistence that it be banned simply because you do not choose to utilize it
as a tool is not necessary, either. The off-road bicycle is a tool, just as
a backpack or canteen is a tool. A loaded pack often weighs as much as a
bicycle. You argue for banning one tool based on your OPINIONS, which have
not been PROVEN to be anything but opinions. You scoff at other research,
often conducted by accredited researchers, if it counters your OPINIONS than
rally behind a battle of verbage and semantics when you get called on these
opinions.
What has been proven unnecessary are your writings, submissions and
opinions. Road construction continues. Sprawl continues. Habitat destruction
continues. And the ONLY thing you continue is to whine about bicycles...
That is no longer pathetic... It is simply a waste.

Did you say something?
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

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Does anyone else hear a gnat...?

"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I have gathered from your woeful lack of intelligence that you only
> read junk science research which purports to show that biking and
> hiking are one and the same thing - when any fool knows they are vastly
> different.

...as opposed to junk science research which purports to show only that
biking is more harmful than hiking....?
Since you and MV are proclaiming the differences, it looks as if you are
also the "fool" you reference.

Mountain bikers are into nothing but fun and games. Hikers are
philosophers who are into deep thinking about humankind and the universe.
They certainly do not belong on the same trails together.

Hmmm... A lot of the hikers I see are loud, walking all over the trail
and off it, leaving trash behind, carrying and drinking alcohol, being
careless about their own safety and others... Yep. Hikers are certainly
the cream of the crop of humanity.
Don't insult us with your wishful generalizations. You may venture out
with that frame of mind, but do NOT place all hikers in that very small
subset. And, by the same logic, you can not reference all off-road
cyclists' motives based on either your opinion of the activity or the
actions of a minority to which you may (or simply claim to) witness.

I have just never seen any slob hikers, whereas I have seen plenty of slob
mountain bikers.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Curtiss, I urge you to get to a library and read something that was
> written several hundred years ago. Most of what is presently being
> written today is not good for you and will rot your brain. I suggest
> you begin with Shakespeare and work your way up to the end of the 19th
> century. Anything written after 1900 is not good for you and will make
> you even worse than you already are. I plead with you to get some
> culture and to give up your slob mountain biking ways.

So now the great "Conan the Librarian" is pleading....? I don't need
Shakespeare to read a tragedy - I can do that by looking at Vandeman's
webpage.

> PS. Be sure to get to work right away writing the definitive history of
> the impact of mountain biking on the modern world.
>
>
At least it would be more entertaining than reading the one-word history
of the impact of Dolan on the modern world. (Dolan=Null)
No thanks - I believe I would rather ride and experience it first
hand...

Personal experience is only worth so much. It has to be checked against
the experience of many others. Those who write books have generally
thought about a subject quite extensively. Do less riding and more
writing and maybe you will get clearer in your mind about what matters in
this world. I assure you that mountain biking matters hardly at all
whereas what the Great Ed Dolan thinks matters enormously.

..and where is the published work of Ed Dolan? (I already know you are not
"Edward F. Dolan".)

It is only industrious beavers like yourself who can work their way up to
writing anything and getting it published. I am way too lazy for any such
endeavors. I am like God that way, it is simply enough that I am.

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Again... I think it is more advantageous I get out on the bike and see
some trees. As far as what the "not so great ed dolan (Conan the
Librarian)" thinks about anything...
http://www.weirdlittlebiscuit.com/images/b3ta/donkey.jpg

Nope, I will never go to a link of yours because I do not trust you. But you
enjoy looking at your pictures all you want. I shall continue to contemplate
my navel as is my custom from my early childhood.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:01:46 -0400, "S Curtiss" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On Tue, 30 May 2006 14:48:43 -0400, "S Curtiss" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

>
>"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>news:[email hidden]...
>> On Sun, 28 May 2006 11:57:55 -0400, "S Curtiss" <[email hidden]>
>>>>>>
>>>>> At least it would be more entertaining than reading the
>>>>> one-word history
>>>>> of the impact of Dolan on the modern world. (Dolan=Null)
>>>>> No thanks - I believe I would rather ride and experience it
>>>>> first hand...
>>>>
>>>> Personal experience is only worth so much. It has to be checked
>>>> against
>>>> the experience of many others. Those who write books have
>>>> generally thought about a subject quite extensively. Do less
>>>> riding and more writing
>>>> and maybe you will get clearer in your mind about what matters
>>>> in this world. I assure you that mountain biking matters hardly
>>>> at all whereas what the Great Ed Dolan thinks matters
>>>> enormously.
>>>
>>>..and where is the published work of Ed Dolan? (I already know you
>>>are not
>>>"Edward F. Dolan".)
>>>
>>>Again... I think it is more advantageous I get out on the bike
>>>and see some
>>>trees.
>>
>> Since when is it necessary to bring along a BIKE in order to see
>> trees??? In fact, having to pay attention to controlling a BIKE
>> interferes with your ability to look at trees -- if you were
>> honest.
>We've covered this - Your OPINION and lack of desire or ability is
>no measure of the abilities of someone else. I can control a bike
>and look at trees. Your lack of that ability, or desire to explore
>that ability, is MEANINGLESS.
>Since when is it necessary to use any type of tool to increase the
>effectiveness of an activity?

So you agree that it's not necessary to allow bikes off-road?
===

Who said it was "necessary"...? Making something "necessary"
(required, so to speak) is a far cry from making, or keeping, it legal
as an option. Your insistence that it be banned simply because you do
not choose to utilize it as a tool is not necessary, either. The
off-road bicycle is a tool, just as a backpack or canteen is a tool. A
loaded pack often weighs as much as a bicycle. You argue for banning
one tool based on your OPINIONS, which have not been PROVEN to be
anything but opinions. You scoff at other research, often conducted by
accredited researchers, if it counters your OPINIONS than rally behind
a battle of verbage and semantics when you get called on these
opinions. What has been proven unnecessary are your writings,
submissions and opinions. Road construction continues. Sprawl
continues. Habitat destruction continues. And the ONLY thing you
continue is to whine about bicycles... That is no longer pathetic...
It is simply a waste.

Did you say something?

Yeah, he said you are wasting your time.

Has one off-road cyclist quit riding off road due to you posting your
opinions on this NG?? If so, please provide names, so that it can be
verified. If not, just proff that you are wasting your time.

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===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

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On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:01:46 -0400, "S Curtiss" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On Tue, 30 May 2006 14:48:43 -0400, "S Curtiss" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

>
>"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>news:[email hidden]...
>> On Sun, 28 May 2006 11:57:55 -0400, "S Curtiss" <[email hidden]>
>>>>>>
>>>>> At least it would be more entertaining than reading the one-word
>>>>> history
>>>>> of the impact of Dolan on the modern world. (Dolan=Null)
>>>>> No thanks - I believe I would rather ride and experience it first
>>>>> hand...
>>>>
>>>> Personal experience is only worth so much. It has to be checked
>>>> against
>>>> the experience of many others. Those who write books have generally
>>>> thought about a subject quite extensively. Do less riding and more
>>>> writing
>>>> and maybe you will get clearer in your mind about what matters in
>>>> this
>>>> world. I assure you that mountain biking matters hardly at all
>>>> whereas
>>>> what the Great Ed Dolan thinks matters enormously.
>>>
>>>..and where is the published work of Ed Dolan? (I already know you are
>>>not
>>>"Edward F. Dolan".)
>>>
>>>Again... I think it is more advantageous I get out on the bike and
>>>see
>>>some
>>>trees.
>>
>> Since when is it necessary to bring along a BIKE in order to see
>> trees??? In fact, having to pay attention to controlling a BIKE
>> interferes with your ability to look at trees -- if you were honest.
>We've covered this - Your OPINION and lack of desire or ability is no
>measure of the abilities of someone else. I can control a bike and look
>at
>trees. Your lack of that ability, or desire to explore that ability, is
>MEANINGLESS.
>Since when is it necessary to use any type of tool to increase the
>effectiveness of an activity?

So you agree that it's not necessary to allow bikes off-road?
===

Who said it was "necessary"...? Making something "necessary" (required, so
to speak) is a far cry from making, or keeping, it legal as an option.
Your
insistence that it be banned simply because you do not choose to utilize
it
as a tool is not necessary, either. The off-road bicycle is a tool, just
as
a backpack or canteen is a tool. A loaded pack often weighs as much as a
bicycle. You argue for banning one tool based on your OPINIONS, which have
not been PROVEN to be anything but opinions. You scoff at other research,
often conducted by accredited researchers, if it counters your OPINIONS
than
rally behind a battle of verbage and semantics when you get called on
these
opinions.
What has been proven unnecessary are your writings, submissions and
opinions. Road construction continues. Sprawl continues. Habitat
destruction
continues. And the ONLY thing you continue is to whine about bicycles...
That is no longer pathetic... It is simply a waste.

Did you say something?

If you asked me on a Monday... I'd say "yeeeeaaaaassssssss".... If you
asked me on a Tuesday... I'd say "yeeeeeaaaaaasssssss"...

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Quoted message said:

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Hmmm... A lot of the hikers I see are loud, walking all over the trail
and off it, leaving trash behind, carrying and drinking alcohol, being
careless about their own safety and others... Yep. Hikers are certainly
the cream of the crop of humanity.
Don't insult us with your wishful generalizations. You may venture out
with that frame of mind, but do NOT place all hikers in that very small
subset. And, by the same logic, you can not reference all off-road
cyclists' motives based on either your opinion of the activity or the
actions of a minority to which you may (or simply claim to) witness.

I have just never seen any slob hikers, whereas I have seen plenty of slob
mountain bikers.

Then maybe its you... Perhaps you need a mirror.

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> Curtiss, I urge you to get to a library and read something that was
>> written several hundred years ago. Most of what is presently being
>> written today is not good for you and will rot your brain. I suggest
>> you begin with Shakespeare and work your way up to the end of the 19th
>> century. Anything written after 1900 is not good for you and will make
>> you even worse than you already are. I plead with you to get some
>> culture and to give up your slob mountain biking ways.
>
> So now the great "Conan the Librarian" is pleading....? I don't need
> Shakespeare to read a tragedy - I can do that by looking at Vandeman's
> webpage.
>
>> PS. Be sure to get to work right away writing the definitive history
>> of the impact of mountain biking on the modern world.
>>
>>
> At least it would be more entertaining than reading the one-word
> history of the impact of Dolan on the modern world. (Dolan=Null)
> No thanks - I believe I would rather ride and experience it first
> hand...

Personal experience is only worth so much. It has to be checked against
the experience of many others. Those who write books have generally
thought about a subject quite extensively. Do less riding and more
writing and maybe you will get clearer in your mind about what matters
in this world. I assure you that mountain biking matters hardly at all
whereas what the Great Ed Dolan thinks matters enormously.

..and where is the published work of Ed Dolan? (I already know you are
not "Edward F. Dolan".)

It is only industrious beavers like yourself who can work their way up to
writing anything and getting it published. I am way too lazy for any such
endeavors. I am like God that way, it is simply enough that I am.

You are... a waste of space? a blot on the floor? an ego with
constipation?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Again... I think it is more advantageous I get out on the bike and see
some trees. As far as what the "not so great ed dolan (Conan the
Librarian)" thinks about anything...
http://www.weirdlittlebiscuit.com/images/b3ta/donkey.jpg

Nope, I will never go to a link of yours because I do not trust you. But
you enjoy looking at your pictures all you want. I shall continue to
contemplate my navel as is my custom from my early childhood.

....and all this time I thought you were a construct from A-51 that got loose
before being educated....

Quoted message said:

"S Curtiss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>
Hmmm... A lot of the hikers I see are loud, walking all over the trail
and off it, leaving trash behind, carrying and drinking alcohol, being
careless about their own safety and others... Yep. Hikers are
certainly the cream of the crop of humanity.
Don't insult us with your wishful generalizations. You may venture out
with that frame of mind, but do NOT place all hikers in that very small
subset. And, by the same logic, you can not reference all off-road
cyclists' motives based on either your opinion of the activity or the
actions of a minority to which you may (or simply claim to) witness.

I have just never seen any slob hikers, whereas I have seen plenty of
slob mountain bikers.

Then maybe its you... Perhaps you need a mirror.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>>> Curtiss, I urge you to get to a library and read something that was
>>> written several hundred years ago. Most of what is presently being
>>> written today is not good for you and will rot your brain. I suggest
>>> you begin with Shakespeare and work your way up to the end of the
>>> 19th century. Anything written after 1900 is not good for you and
>>> will make you even worse than you already are. I plead with you to
>>> get some culture and to give up your slob mountain biking ways.
>>
>> So now the great "Conan the Librarian" is pleading....? I don't need
>> Shakespeare to read a tragedy - I can do that by looking at Vandeman's
>> webpage.
>>
>>> PS. Be sure to get to work right away writing the definitive history
>>> of the impact of mountain biking on the modern world.
>>>
>>>
>> At least it would be more entertaining than reading the one-word
>> history of the impact of Dolan on the modern world. (Dolan=Null)
>> No thanks - I believe I would rather ride and experience it first
>> hand...
>
> Personal experience is only worth so much. It has to be checked against
> the experience of many others. Those who write books have generally
> thought about a subject quite extensively. Do less riding and more
> writing and maybe you will get clearer in your mind about what matters
> in this world. I assure you that mountain biking matters hardly at all
> whereas what the Great Ed Dolan thinks matters enormously.

..and where is the published work of Ed Dolan? (I already know you are
not "Edward F. Dolan".)

It is only industrious beavers like yourself who can work their way up to
writing anything and getting it published. I am way too lazy for any such
endeavors. I am like God that way, it is simply enough that I am.

You are... a waste of space? a blot on the floor? an ego with
constipation?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Again... I think it is more advantageous I get out on the bike and see
some trees. As far as what the "not so great ed dolan (Conan the
Librarian)" thinks about anything...
http://www.weirdlittlebiscuit.com/images/b3ta/donkey.jpg

Nope, I will never go to a link of yours because I do not trust you. But
you enjoy looking at your pictures all you want. I shall continue to
contemplate my navel as is my custom from my early childhood.

...and all this time I thought you were a construct from A-51 that got
loose before being educated....

Curtiss is a wonderful example of a cretin who thinks he knows something. I
place him at the high school level, but a high schooler who has done a bit
or reading on his own. However, that is not good enough for the kind of
world we are living in today. He badly needs instruction by his superiors. I
myself am far too lazy (my very best virtue) to bother with him. No, he will
have to get on in this old world the best he can with what he's got. He will
never go far, but maybe he can stay one or two steps ahead of all the
Mexican peons that are pouring into the country.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 00:17:34 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"S Curtiss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

>>
> Hmmm... A lot of the hikers I see are loud, walking all over the trail
> and off it, leaving trash behind, carrying and drinking alcohol, being
> careless about their own safety and others... Yep. Hikers are
> certainly the cream of the crop of humanity.
> Don't insult us with your wishful generalizations. You may venture out
> with that frame of mind, but do NOT place all hikers in that very small
> subset. And, by the same logic, you can not reference all off-road
> cyclists' motives based on either your opinion of the activity or the
> actions of a minority to which you may (or simply claim to) witness.

I have just never seen any slob hikers, whereas I have seen plenty of
slob mountain bikers.

Then maybe its you... Perhaps you need a mirror.

Quoted message said:

>>>> Curtiss, I urge you to get to a library and read something that was
>>>> written several hundred years ago. Most of what is presently being
>>>> written today is not good for you and will rot your brain. I suggest
>>>> you begin with Shakespeare and work your way up to the end of the
>>>> 19th century. Anything written after 1900 is not good for you and
>>>> will make you even worse than you already are. I plead with you to
>>>> get some culture and to give up your slob mountain biking ways.
>>>
>>> So now the great "Conan the Librarian" is pleading....? I don't need
>>> Shakespeare to read a tragedy - I can do that by looking at Vandeman's
>>> webpage.
>>>
>>>> PS. Be sure to get to work right away writing the definitive history
>>>> of the impact of mountain biking on the modern world.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> At least it would be more entertaining than reading the one-word
>>> history of the impact of Dolan on the modern world. (Dolan=Null)
>>> No thanks - I believe I would rather ride and experience it first
>>> hand...
>>
>> Personal experience is only worth so much. It has to be checked against
>> the experience of many others. Those who write books have generally
>> thought about a subject quite extensively. Do less riding and more
>> writing and maybe you will get clearer in your mind about what matters
>> in this world. I assure you that mountain biking matters hardly at all
>> whereas what the Great Ed Dolan thinks matters enormously.
>
> ..and where is the published work of Ed Dolan? (I already know you are
> not "Edward F. Dolan".)

It is only industrious beavers like yourself who can work their way up to
writing anything and getting it published. I am way too lazy for any such
endeavors. I am like God that way, it is simply enough that I am.

You are... a waste of space? a blot on the floor? an ego with
constipation?

Quoted message said:

> Again... I think it is more advantageous I get out on the bike and see
> some trees. As far as what the "not so great ed dolan (Conan the
> Librarian)" thinks about anything...
> http://www.weirdlittlebiscuit.com/images/b3ta/donkey.jpg

Nope, I will never go to a link of yours because I do not trust you. But
you enjoy looking at your pictures all you want. I shall continue to
contemplate my navel as is my custom from my early childhood.

...and all this time I thought you were a construct from A-51 that got
loose before being educated....

Curtiss is a wonderful example of a cretin who thinks he knows something. I
place him at the high school level, but a high schooler who has done a bit
or reading on his own. However, that is not good enough for the kind of
world we are living in today. He badly needs instruction by his superiors. I
myself am far too lazy (my very best virtue) to bother with him. No, he will
have to get on in this old world the best he can with what he's got. He will
never go far, but maybe he can stay one or two steps ahead of all the
Mexican peons that are pouring into the country.

I doubt it. I don't think he can even make a decent burrito or fight a
bull.

Quoted message said:

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"S Curtiss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

>>
> Hmmm... A lot of the hikers I see are loud, walking all over the trail
> and off it, leaving trash behind, carrying and drinking alcohol, being
> careless about their own safety and others... Yep. Hikers are
> certainly the cream of the crop of humanity.
> Don't insult us with your wishful generalizations. You may venture out
> with that frame of mind, but do NOT place all hikers in that very small
> subset. And, by the same logic, you can not reference all off-road
> cyclists' motives based on either your opinion of the activity or the
> actions of a minority to which you may (or simply claim to) witness.

I have just never seen any slob hikers, whereas I have seen plenty of
slob mountain bikers.

Then maybe its you... Perhaps you need a mirror.

Quoted message said:

>>>> Curtiss, I urge you to get to a library and read something that was
>>>> written several hundred years ago. Most of what is presently being
>>>> written today is not good for you and will rot your brain. I
>>>> suggest you begin with Shakespeare and work your way up to the end
>>>> of the 19th century. Anything written after 1900 is not good for you
>>>> and will make you even worse than you already are. I plead with you
>>>> to get some culture and to give up your slob mountain biking ways.
>>>
>>> So now the great "Conan the Librarian" is pleading....? I don't need
>>> Shakespeare to read a tragedy - I can do that by looking at
>>> Vandeman's webpage.
>>>
>>>> PS. Be sure to get to work right away writing the definitive history
>>>> of the impact of mountain biking on the modern world.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> At least it would be more entertaining than reading the one-word
>>> history of the impact of Dolan on the modern world. (Dolan=Null)
>>> No thanks - I believe I would rather ride and experience it first
>>> hand...
>>
>> Personal experience is only worth so much. It has to be checked
>> against the experience of many others. Those who write books have
>> generally thought about a subject quite extensively. Do less riding
>> and more writing and maybe you will get clearer in your mind about
>> what matters in this world. I assure you that mountain biking matters
>> hardly at all whereas what the Great Ed Dolan thinks matters
>> enormously.
>
> ..and where is the published work of Ed Dolan? (I already know you are
> not "Edward F. Dolan".)

It is only industrious beavers like yourself who can work their way up
to writing anything and getting it published. I am way too lazy for any
such endeavors. I am like God that way, it is simply enough that I am.

You are... a waste of space? a blot on the floor? an ego with
constipation?

Quoted message said:

> Again... I think it is more advantageous I get out on the bike and see
> some trees. As far as what the "not so great ed dolan (Conan the
> Librarian)" thinks about anything...
> http://www.weirdlittlebiscuit.com/images/b3ta/donkey.jpg

Nope, I will never go to a link of yours because I do not trust you. But
you enjoy looking at your pictures all you want. I shall continue to
contemplate my navel as is my custom from my early childhood.

...and all this time I thought you were a construct from A-51 that got
loose before being educated....

Curtiss is a wonderful example of a cretin who thinks he knows something.
I place him at the high school level, but a high schooler who has done a
bit or reading on his own. However, that is not good enough for the kind
of world we are living in today. He badly needs instruction by his
superiors. I myself am far too lazy (my very best virtue) to bother with
him. No, he will have to get on in this old world the best he can with
what he's got. He will never go far, but maybe he can stay one or two
steps ahead of all the Mexican peons that are pouring into the country.

A reference to my education from Conan the Librarian..? Character
assasination...Name calling... You have been reading from the book of
Vandeman again. Oh well, like I said before, this country is founded on
religious freedom.

"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 00:17:34 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

I doubt it. I don't think he can even make a decent burrito or fight a
bull.

Now you are advocating I engage in the senseless killing of an animal for
recreation...? Will you please make up your mind!?