The 'helmet poll' thread

G.T. said:

Pat Lamb said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

4156 posts and a countin'......why do people still post on this
thing???

Dunno, killfiled it about 2500 posts ago. Anybody say something new
or different lately?

Of course not. Still the same people speaking with reason saying the
same things and the same people spewing back with fear and ignorance.

Glad you're coming around finally.

G.T. said:

Aeek said:

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:54:17 -0700, "G.T." <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Of course not. Still the same people speaking with reason saying
the same things and the same people spewing back with fear and
ignorance.

and that's on both sides as far as I can tell.

No, only one side is speaking with reason.

True. The pro-lid people ARE coming from personal experience and mature
judgment. Funny how /threatening/ that seems to be...

Heh.

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

4156 posts and a countin'......why do people still post on this thing???

The thread has become self aware and is now propagating itself.

Personally I'm looking forward to the new "T-Mobile Tour Edition"
helmet with little boulders stuck in the vents.

Mark

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Quoted message said:

G.T. said:

Aeek said:

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:54:17 -0700, "G.T." <[email hidden]>
wrote:

> Of course not. Still the same people speaking with reason saying
> the same things and the same people spewing back with fear and
> ignorance.

and that's on both sides as far as I can tell.

No, only one side is speaking with reason.

True. The pro-lid people ARE coming from personal experience and mature
judgment.

And zero science.

Quoted message said:

Funny how /threatening/ that seems to be...

Superstition influenced laws and regulations are threatening.

Greg

I've seen several people using the h-word in this thread. I know it's
in the subject line, but in this thread we're expected to behave like
adults and not repeat it.

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I've seen several people using the h-word in this thread. I know it's
in the subject line, but in this thread we're expected to behave like
adults and not repeat it.

Adults? - too late, about 25% of the posts in this branch are by the most
juvenile of the participants in the helmet threads. No points for guessing
on which side he's settled...

G.T. said:

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Quoted message said:

G.T. said:

Aeek wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:54:17 -0700, "G.T."
> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>
>> Of course not. Still the same people speaking with reason saying
>> the same things and the same people spewing back with fear and
>> ignorance.
>
>
> and that's on both sides as far as I can tell.

No, only one side is speaking with reason.

True. The pro-lid people ARE coming from personal experience and
mature judgment.

And zero science.

Quoted message said:

Funny how /threatening/ that seems to be...

Superstition influenced laws and regulations are threatening.

Laws? Regulations? Separate topic entirely.

HTH

Bill Sornson said:

G.T. said:

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Quoted message said:

G.T. wrote:
> Aeek wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:54:17 -0700, "G.T."
>> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

True. The pro-lid people ARE coming from personal experience and
mature judgment.

And zero science.

Quoted message said:

Funny how /threatening/ that seems to be...

Superstition influenced laws and regulations are threatening.

Laws? Regulations? Separate topic entirely.

C'mon Bill - they've heard (errrrr, "read"😉 that in about 1,000 of
those 2,500 posts, and still don't get it. What makes you think THIS
one will work? ;-)

Mark "killed that thread months ago" Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

Mark Hickey said:

Bill Sornson said:

G.T. said:

"Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> G.T. wrote:
>> Aeek wrote:
>>> On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:54:17 -0700, "G.T."
>>> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> True. The pro-lid people ARE coming from personal experience and
> mature judgment.
And zero science.

> Funny how /threatening/ that seems to be...
Superstition influenced laws and regulations are threatening.

Laws? Regulations? Separate topic entirely.

C'mon Bill - they've heard (errrrr, "read"😉 that in about 1,000 of
those 2,500 posts, and still don't get it. What makes you think THIS
one will work? ;-)

Reading posts is not enough. They actually have to read the research,
though I think few people do, because it conflicts with what they want
to believe.

They could start at
"http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_rdsafety/documents/pdf/dft_rdsafety_pdf_507998.pdf"

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:59:24 -0700, Mark Hickey <[email hidden]>
wrote:

[some stuff]

If anyone wants to use this thread to comment on the doggedness of the
participants on the various sides of the issue in the other thread,
fine.

But if want to use it to rag on the arguments/people you don't agree
with in the other thread in terms of what they're saying, I'd urge you
to reconsider. On the one hand it's cowardly. If you want to
critique one side or the the other, do it in the actual thread.

And on the other hand, it will lead to the arguments spilling into
this thread, which will be confusing.

JT

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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:59:24 -0700, Mark Hickey <[email hidden]>
wrote:

[some stuff]

If anyone wants to use this thread to comment on the doggedness of the
participants on the various sides of the issue in the other thread,
fine.

But if want to use it to rag on the arguments/people you don't agree
with in the other thread in terms of what they're saying, I'd urge you
to reconsider. On the one hand it's cowardly. If you want to
critique one side or the the other, do it in the actual thread.

And on the other hand, it will lead to the arguments spilling into
this thread, which will be confusing.

LOL Delicious irony LOL

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:26:44 -0700, SMS <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

G.T. said:

Of course not. Still the same people speaking with reason saying the
same things and the same people spewing back with fear and ignorance.

Par for the course in these threads. Gotta go shopping for my walking
helmet today.

I appear to need a refrigerator-raiding helmet. Clonged myself good
on the freezer door earlier.
--
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Quoted message said:

I've seen several people using the h-word in this thread. I know it's
in the subject line, but in this thread we're expected to behave like
adults and not repeat it.

But then, what will we talk about? Chain lube/cleaning? Frame
materials? Tubular tires? Hang vs. stand? Paint vs. powercoat?
Chain vs. U-lock vs. cable? Why only a portion of the general
population statistically indistinguishable from "nobody" cares about
Critical_Issue_X[1]?

On second thought, I'm gonna go put some miles on the bike instead of
the keyboard.

[1] Any thread containing an attempt to define which issue is most
important will be killfiled.

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Werehatrack said:

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:26:44 -0700, SMS <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

G.T. said:

Of course not. Still the same people speaking with reason saying
the same things and the same people spewing back with fear and
ignorance.

Par for the course in these threads. Gotta go shopping for my walking
helmet today.

I appear to need a refrigerator-raiding helmet. Clonged myself good
on the freezer door earlier.

Other day I was putting on sunscreen (risk compensation!) in the bathroom
before a ride. Had a little extra lotion on my hands, so bent over to put
it on my legs and BAM! knocked my head right into the sink countertop.

Luckily, I had already put on my helmet and therefore didn't die. (I /did/
see stars, though.)

<eg> Survivor Sorni <eg>

Bill Sornson said:

Werehatrack said:

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:26:44 -0700, SMS <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

G.T. wrote:

> Of course not. Still the same people speaking with reason saying
> the same things and the same people spewing back with fear and
> ignorance.

Par for the course in these threads. Gotta go shopping for my walking
helmet today.

I appear to need a refrigerator-raiding helmet. Clonged myself good
on the freezer door earlier.

Other day I was putting on sunscreen (risk compensation!) in the bathroom
before a ride. Had a little extra lotion on my hands, so bent over to put
it on my legs and BAM! knocked my head right into the sink countertop.

Luckily, I had already put on my helmet and therefore didn't die. (I /did/
see stars, though.)

<sigh> Bill, don't you know that if you hadn't been wearing a helmet,
which makes your noggin both bigger and heavier, your head wouldn't
have hit the countertop at all! Just ask the Wonderous Raven, he'll
'splain it to you. ;-)

Bill Sornson said:

Other day I was putting on sunscreen (risk compensation!) in the bathroom
before a ride. Had a little extra lotion on my hands, so bent over to put
it on my legs and BAM! knocked my head right into the sink countertop.

Luckily, I had already put on my helmet and therefore didn't die. (I /did/
see stars, though.)

<eg> Survivor Sorni <eg>

Welcome to the club.

But PUH-LEEZE tell us that you don't have pictures. Or at least that
you put your helmet on last! ;-)

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

Mark Hickey said:

Bill Sornson said:

Other day I was putting on sunscreen (risk compensation!) in the
bathroom before a ride. Had a little extra lotion on my hands, so
bent over to put it on my legs and BAM! knocked my head right into
the sink countertop.

Luckily, I had already put on my helmet and therefore didn't die.
(I /did/ see stars, though.)

<eg> Survivor Sorni <eg>

Welcome to the club.

But PUH-LEEZE tell us that you don't have pictures. Or at least that
you put your helmet on last! ;-)

I was IN the bathroom, not GOING TO the bathroom. (Is that what you meant?)

Fuzzily, BS

Bill Sornson said:

Mark Hickey said:

Bill Sornson said:

Other day I was putting on sunscreen (risk compensation!) in the
bathroom before a ride. Had a little extra lotion on my hands, so
bent over to put it on my legs and BAM! knocked my head right into
the sink countertop.

Luckily, I had already put on my helmet and therefore didn't die.
(I /did/ see stars, though.)

<eg> Survivor Sorni <eg>

Welcome to the club.

But PUH-LEEZE tell us that you don't have pictures. Or at least that
you put your helmet on last! ;-)

I was IN the bathroom, not GOING TO the bathroom. (Is that what you meant?)

Well, I dunno - I suppose it's always possible that you didn't want to
get sunscreen all over your shorts, so....

Mark "refrained from any other lotion jokes, thankyouverymuch" Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

Bill Sornson said:

Werehatrack said:

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:26:44 -0700, SMS <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

G.T. wrote:

> Of course not. Still the same people speaking with reason saying
> the same things and the same people spewing back with fear and
> ignorance.

Par for the course in these threads. Gotta go shopping for my
walking helmet today.

I appear to need a refrigerator-raiding helmet. Clonged myself good
on the freezer door earlier.

Other day I was putting on sunscreen (risk compensation!) in the
bathroom before a ride. Had a little extra lotion on my hands, so
bent over to put it on my legs and BAM! knocked my head right into
the sink countertop.
Luckily, I had already put on my helmet and therefore didn't die. (I
/did/ see stars, though.)

<eg> Survivor Sorni <eg>

Uh huh... but the helmet increased the diameter of your head, making it
easier to hit.
--
Phil Lee, Squid

Bill Sornson said:

Other day I was putting on sunscreen (risk compensation!) in the bathroom
before a ride. Had a little extra lotion on my hands, so bent over to put
it on my legs and BAM! knocked my head right into the sink countertop.

Had you been in the Netherlands, you would not have hit your head.

Even putting on sunscreen was unnecessary as the number of people that
die from skin cancer, where sunscreen would have prevented the cancer,
is vanishingly small.

Didn't you read the population study where they studied the population
of the UK and found no difference between skin cancer rates between
sunscreen users and non-users? You are required to ignore the data where
they looked at skin cancer patients and looked at who used sunscreen and
who didn't.