Sworn at by kids

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The only real solution I think is to sterilise and lobotomise these
people.

I had that Nick Griffin on the back of my tandem once...

Tim

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dannyfrankszzz said:

Pleasantly cycling along today in North London minding my own business
and this kid on a bike suddenly veers

Adam Lea said:

I have been wondering, if you compare the general behaviour of youth 40
years ago to today, are there really any large differences?

Had a similar experience in Somerstown, North London, a few days back.
A crowd of kids playing at walking slowly back and forth in front of
cycles. I slowed down for them and got punched on the arm for my
trouble. "I want your bike" said the kid. "Too big for you" said I
(small boy ...22 inch frame). Very annoyed, but then I thought kids do
have a dark side, always have done. I can picture some irritating
Victorian child pushing a stick through the spokes of a penny-farthing
to see what would happen. Must have happened many times. It's not
right, but sometimes you just have to shrug and let it go.

dannyfrankszzz wrote:
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The question that was most pressing in my mind was, 'Why are kids
pedalling around on bikes in the road, unsupervised, behaving in a
totally unacceptable manner?'

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Your question caused me to ask "How old were the kids?" and "Was there
some supervised activity (i.e. school) that they ought to have been
doing?"

I'm not saying that kids ought to be on the road ignoring the rules of
the road or, indeed, the rules of courtesy and good manners. However,
I hate to see kids (at least older kids) put in situations where they
are endlessly supervised. Many of the most joyous times I remember
from my childhood had no supervision at all.

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Pleasantly cycling along today in North London minding my own business

Did they "chase" you?

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dannyfrankszzz said:

Pleasantly cycling along today in North London minding my own business
and this kid on a bike suddenly veers

Adam Lea said:

I have been wondering, if you compare the general behaviour of youth 40
years ago to today, are there really any large differences?

Had a similar experience in Somerstown, North London, a few days back.
A crowd of kids playing at walking slowly back and forth in front of
cycles. I slowed down for them and got punched on the arm for my
trouble. "I want your bike" said the kid. "Too big for you" said I
(small boy ...22 inch frame). Very annoyed, but then I thought kids do
have a dark side, always have done. I can picture some irritating
Victorian child pushing a stick through the spokes of a penny-farthing
to see what would happen. Must have happened many times. It's not
right, but sometimes you just have to shrug and let it go.

Is Gary Glitter allowed to use computers now?

A couple of weeks back I was riding on a fairly busy town centre road, 3
lanes going in my direction, heavy lorries, busses etc brushing by. Didn't
feel all that safe, when 2 kids, age about 11, wobbled onto the road &
across all 3 lanes almost to the central reservation. then along the right
hand edge of the right hand lane. Their saddles were much too low, so their
knees were coming up too high, and they wobbled all over the place. But they
were safer than I was - no one went anywhere near them!
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Martin Bulmer

Colin Nelson said the following on 01/09/2006 07:44:

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Tony has the answer ! :-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5301824.stm

That has to be a badly-timed April Fool's joke, surely! Before they're
even born???? Not stereotyping at all then!

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Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

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dannyfrankszzz wrote:
...snip...

Quoted message said:

The question that was most pressing in my mind was, 'Why are kids
pedalling around on bikes in the road, unsupervised, behaving in a
totally unacceptable manner?'

...snip...

Your question caused me to ask "How old were the kids?" and "Was there
some supervised activity (i.e. school) that they ought to have been
doing?"

I'm not saying that kids ought to be on the road ignoring the rules of
the road or, indeed, the rules of courtesy and good manners. However,
I hate to see kids (at least older kids) put in situations where they
are endlessly supervised. Many of the most joyous times I remember
from my childhood had no supervision at all.

Absolutely. From age ten, I, alone or sometimes with friends, used to
disappear out into the hills and woods, or, at a slightly older age, out
on the river in my boat or on the roads on my bike, often before adults
were awake, and not be back until teatime. Absolutely the best thing for
kids.

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:: Wisdom is better than weapons of war ::
:: Ecclesiastes 9:18 ::

Kids are funny at that age.

Paul Boyd said:

Quoted message said:

Tony has the answer ! :-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5301824.stm

That has to be a badly-timed April Fool's joke, surely! Before they're
even born???? Not stereotyping at all then!

Old news surely, eugenics was poular with that wee guy with the
moustache years ago, you know who I mean... yeah....[censored].

Robert

dannyfrankszzz said:

discipline them at school and the parents are too selfish and stupid to
bear the responsibility of rearing their kids properly. I hate to

30 years ago, most familiys had one parent working, and one at home.
Kids got the appropiate attention.

Now both parents are out of the house for 10_ hours a day, and kids are
left to their own devices much more than they were. Family meals are
rare, indeed many kids will have something from the chippie for dinner.

OF course families have to have 2 workers now as house prices are so
high. They are high because of the upward pressure on prices caused by
2 earners in each house.

dannyfrankszzz wrote on 31/08/2006 22:04 +0100:

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and this kid on a bike suddenly veers on to the road (not wearing a
helmet)

Have we now got to the state where roads are expected to wear helmets too?

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

Paul Weaver said the following on 01/09/2006 08:27:

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30 years ago, most familiys had one parent working, and one at home.

I'm glad you said "most". 30 years ago (I'm 40 now) I grew up in what
is now called a one-parent family, and Mum worked full-time - she had
to. From the age of about 7, I was given a front door key to let myself
and my brother in after walking the extraordinary [1] distance of one
mile back from school, and in winter I had to light the fire, having
made it up before school, so the house was warm by the time Mum came
home from work.

If that happened now, Social Services would be called out and my mother
would end up in court or something!

We did at least have the evening meal together. None of this did me any
harm. I only have to see the shrink once a week now :-)

[1] Irony mode was on when I typed that word.

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Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

Simon Brooke wrote on 01/09/2006 08:14 +0100:

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Absolutely. From age ten, I, alone or sometimes with friends, used to
disappear out into the hills and woods, or, at a slightly older age, out
on the river in my boat or on the roads on my bike, often before adults
were awake, and not be back until teatime. Absolutely the best thing for
kids.

But you forget there are NewsoftheWorldophiles hiding behind every lamp
post and tree. If just one life...(cont p93)

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

Simon Brooke said:

Quoted message said:

dannyfrankszzz wrote:

not saying that kids ought to be on the road ignoring the rules of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the road or, indeed, the rules of courtesy and good manners. However,
I hate to see kids (at least older kids) put in situations where they
are endlessly supervised. Many of the most joyous times I remember
from my childhood had no supervision at all.

Absolutely. From age ten, I, alone or sometimes with friends, used to
disappear out into the hills and woods, or, at a slightly older age, out
on the river in my boat or on the roads on my bike, often before adults
were awake, and not be back until teatime. Absolutely the best thing for
kids.

My best friend and I aged about 7 or 8 cycled (ran away) away from home.
He couldn't reach the saddle of his dad's bike, I was on my mum's. After
25 miles we decided to go home again. So after a 50 mile plus day we got
home - all our parents were still at work & hadn't even noticed.
All the best
Dan Gregory

Could it just possibly be the case that some people pump out kids without considering whether they ought to? Just a 'maybe'...

dannyfrankszzz said:

Could it just possibly be the case that some people pump out kids
without considering whether they ought to? Just a 'maybe'...

They have good incentives to do so - bigger council house (or jump up the
waiting list), probably some more cash in benifits etc etc.
--
Chris Johns

Well, yes, the government needs to be able to ensure it can enslave future generations so that they can keep the economy running and trust funds flowing. Unfortunately, the reality is that a lot of these individuals end up in prision costing the taxpayer and the economy far more.

dannyfrankszzz said:

Well, yes, the government needs to be able to ensure it can enslave
future generations so that they can keep the economy running and trust
funds flowing. Unfortunately, the reality is that a lot of these
individuals end up in prision costing the taxpayer and the economy far
more.

And for the familes who for generations (which will be around 14 years
apart) who never put a penny 'into' the system, given that all their money
comes from the government or council in the first place, in the form of
benifits of some form or other.

However, if you get all your money from the government, they have a
certain amount of control over you, and can use this to keep in power.
--
Chris Johns