Repair of vintage Campa QR

In article <opthhcertrxtdc4g@ivarsnotebook>,

Ivar Hesselager said:

I was recently given a 25 year old steel racer with some nice
Campagnolo 'Super Record' components. And I have invested some
enthusiasm and a little money in restoring this vintage bicycle.

Hubs and bearings have never been serviced, but they all still run
very smoothly. So all I have had to do to make it run like it did
25 years ago, is to put on new chain and 6-cog, new cables and
housings, new rims, spokes and tires. And of course I have
painted, polished and waxed to make it shine and sparkle like it did
in 1981.

There is one more repair I would like to make, but I don't know how
to go about it. The quick releases on both hubs are bent
aproximately 1 cm from the end with the theads - so much that it is
very difficult to force them through the hubs. It would not be a
problem to buy new ones, that look much the same. But since these
are the original Campa QRes and since Campagnolo was founded on the
invention of the quick release, I take particular interest in
preserving them. But how do I straighten them wihtout damaging the
threads? Would it be safe to put on fx. 8 small nuts - four on
each side of the bend - and then press, pull or hammer till they are
straight?

I would thread the QR nut down to the bend, clamp the nut in a
soft-jawed vice, and bend gently in the appropriate direction. That way
you aren't clamping the threads in the jaws of the vice.

Ivar Hesselager said:

I was recently given a 25 year old steel racer with some nice Campagnolo
'Super Record' components. And I have invested some enthusiasm and a
little money in restoring this vintage bicycle.

Hubs and bearings have never been serviced, but they all still run very
smoothly. So all I have had to do to make it run like it did 25 years
ago, is to put on new chain and 6-cog, new cables and housings, new rims,
spokes and tires. And of course I have painted, polished and waxed to
make it shine and sparkle like it did in 1981.

There is one more repair I would like to make, but I don't know how to go
about it.
The quick releases on both hubs are bent aproximately 1 cm from the end
with the theads - so much that it is very difficult to force them through
the hubs. It would not be a problem to buy new ones, that look much the
same. But since these are the original Campa QRes and since Campagnolo
was founded on the invention of the quick release, I take particular
interest in preserving them.
But how do I straighten them wihtout damaging the threads? Would it be
safe to put on fx. 8 small nuts - four on each side of the bend - and
then press, pull or hammer till they are straight?

Yes.

In article <opthhcertrxtdc4g@ivarsnotebook>,
"Ivar Hesselager" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I was recently given a 25 year old steel racer with some nice Campagnolo
'Super Record' components. And I have invested some enthusiasm and a
little money in restoring this vintage bicycle.

Hubs and bearings have never been serviced, but they all still run very
smoothly. So all I have had to do to make it run like it did 25 years
ago, is to put on new chain and 6-cog, new cables and housings, new rims,
spokes and tires. And of course I have painted, polished and waxed to
make it shine and sparkle like it did in 1981.

There is one more repair I would like to make, but I don't know how to go
about it.
The quick releases on both hubs are bent aproximately 1 cm from the end
with the theads - so much that it is very difficult to force them through
the hubs. It would not be a problem to buy new ones, that look much the
same. But since these are the original Campa QRes and since Campagnolo
was founded on the invention of the quick release, I take particular
interest in preserving them.
But how do I straighten them wihtout damaging the threads? Would it be
safe to put on fx. 8 small nuts - four on each side of the bend - and
then press, pull or hammer till they are straight?

Tim answers this question. You should open and clean
the hubs, headset, and bottom bracket. Inspect the
races for roughness. A ball point pen is great. Run it
around the races and go by feel. Replace the bearing
balls and pack full of grease.

--
Michael Press

Ivar Hesselager said:

I was recently given a 25 year old steel racer with some nice Campagnolo
'Super Record' components. And I have invested some enthusiasm and a
little money in restoring this vintage bicycle.

Hubs and bearings have never been serviced, but they all still run very
smoothly. So all I have had to do to make it run like it did 25 years
ago, is to put on new chain and 6-cog, new cables and housings, new rims,
spokes and tires. And of course I have painted, polished and waxed to
make it shine and sparkle like it did in 1981.

There is one more repair I would like to make, but I don't know how to go
about it.
The quick releases on both hubs are bent aproximately 1 cm from the end
with the theads - so much that it is very difficult to force them through
the hubs. It would not be a problem to buy new ones, that look much the
same. But since these are the original Campa QRes and since Campagnolo
was founded on the invention of the quick release, I take particular
interest in preserving them.
But how do I straighten them wihtout damaging the threads? Would it be
safe to put on fx. 8 small nuts - four on each side of the bend - and
then press, pull or hammer till they are straight?

Thanks in advance for any help.
Ivar of Denmark

I put the QR onto a flat metal surface and wack it with a plasrtic
mallet..just did this last Saturday..didn't hurt the threads

Thanks to all for suggestions and encouragment. I put the QR on the heavy
wooden lit of my grandfathers old toolbox and hit it four times with a
rubber mallet. That straightened it with no harm done to the threads.
As soon as I had the courage, it was easy.

I still have from my younger days half a jar of Campagnolo special grease:
Lubricante per movimento a sfere e a rulli. Real vintage grease. (They
don't make stuff like that no more ;-) One fine day this coming winter I
will take hubs, bottom bracket and headset apart and supply new balls and
grease - out of curiousity. I actually believe they would do fine without
that.

Ivar

I recently rechromed my 1974 schwinn paramount campy nuovo record
headset. The headset was working fine with no difficulting in turning
the steering. When i opened it up to get the lower cup off, there was
NO lubrication in the races. And yet, when the headset was closed,
handlebars turned just fine....

Be afraid. Be very afraid ...

Repack at the very least : both hubs, bottom bracket, and headset.

By repacking all these bearings, you might be able to avert a
needless, early failure. For example, you might find that replacing
one hub cone will save you having to replace the cups or junk the hub,
down the road ...

If you QR skewers are bent, its probably because your AXLES are bent.
If the bike really is super record, axles would be titanium, and would
probably be likely to get bent. In that case, straightening the QR
skewers might have little effect ... If you insist, it might be
possible to use NOS shafts from Xenon or maybe 1990's Xenon skewers in
your Nuovo record skewers .. check with your LBS for details. I have
verified that joytech shafts DO NOT fit on campy skewers.

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

Consider taking your frameset to a good bike shop to check if the
dropouts are parallel. The question is, why did these skewers get
bent in this way ?? I have not had this problem with campy skewers,
even thought I have about 10 sets of campy hubs in my garage ...

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

Donald Gillies said:

Consider taking your frameset to a good bike shop to check if the
dropouts are parallel. The question is, why did these skewers get
bent in this way ??

My guess is that the wheel was clamped such that the end of the axle was
against the dropout (acting as outerlocknut) and the skewer was
supporting the wheel.

I have not had this problem with campy skewers,

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even thought I have about 10 sets of campy hubs in my garage ...

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

Robin Hubert

Ivar Hesselager said:

Thanks to all for suggestions and encouragment. I put the QR on the heavy
wooden lit of my grandfathers old toolbox and hit it four times with a
rubber mallet. That straightened it with no harm done to the threads.
As soon as I had the courage, it was easy.

I still have from my younger days half a jar of Campagnolo special grease:
Lubricante per movimento a sfere e a rulli. Real vintage grease. (They
don't make stuff like that no more ;-) One fine day this coming winter I
will take hubs, bottom bracket and headset apart and supply new balls and
grease - out of curiousity. I actually believe they would do fine without
that.

Ivar

Actually, Miche grease, still available, is very similar to old Campag
grease. Available in tubes and tubs, I mix it with Phil and old Campag
grease.

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Ivar Hesselager said:

Thanks to all for suggestions and encouragment. I put the QR on the
heavy
wooden lit of my grandfathers old toolbox and hit it four times with a
rubber mallet. That straightened it with no harm done to the threads.
As soon as I had the courage, it was easy.

I still have from my younger days half a jar of Campagnolo special
grease:
Lubricante per movimento a sfere e a rulli. Real vintage grease. (They
don't make stuff like that no more ;-) One fine day this coming winter I
will take hubs, bottom bracket and headset apart and supply new balls and
grease - out of curiousity. I actually believe they would do fine
without
that.

Ivar

Actually, Miche grease, still available, is very similar to old Campag
grease. Available in tubes and tubs, I mix it with Phil and old Campag
grease.

Years ago, I recall many saying that Pennzoil white grease was very similar
to Campy. In fact, this place still states it:

http://tinyurl.com/y38e42

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Quoted message said:

Ivar Hesselager said:

Thanks to all for suggestions and encouragment. I put the QR on

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

heavy
wooden lit of my grandfathers old toolbox and hit it four times

with a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

rubber mallet. That straightened it with no harm done to the

threads.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As soon as I had the courage, it was easy.

I still have from my younger days half a jar of Campagnolo special
grease:
Lubricante per movimento a sfere e a rulli. Real vintage grease.

(They

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

don't make stuff like that no more ;-) One fine day this coming

winter I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

will take hubs, bottom bracket and headset apart and supply new

balls and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

grease - out of curiousity. I actually believe they would do fine
without
that.

Ivar

Actually, Miche grease, still available, is very similar to old

Campag

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

grease. Available in tubes and tubs, I mix it with Phil and old

Campag

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

grease.

Years ago, I recall many saying that Pennzoil white grease was very

similar

Quoted message said:

to Campy. In fact, this place still states it:

http://tinyurl.com/y38e42

White grease contains lithium which is supposed to provide corrosion
resistance.

"The term Lithium Grease can be slightly misleading as the lithium
content is actually the thickener used to thicken the oil content to
make it a grease as opposed to an oil. The formulation of a lithium
grease includes a mineral or synthetic base oil, combined with a lithium
thickener, and other additives, to suit special applications."

http://www.lubricants.co.uk/lithiumgrease.html

Lithium grease was/is supposed to be more water resistant than other
greases. At one time it was called washing machine grease.

Here's an interesting product from Valvoline:

http://www.valvoline.com/pages/products/product_detail.asp?product=37

Chas.

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Ivar Hesselager wrote:
> Thanks to all for suggestions and encouragment. I put the QR on

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> heavy
> wooden lit of my grandfathers old toolbox and hit it four times

with a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> rubber mallet. That straightened it with no harm done to the

threads.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> As soon as I had the courage, it was easy.
>
> I still have from my younger days half a jar of Campagnolo special
> grease:
> Lubricante per movimento a sfere e a rulli. Real vintage grease.

(They

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> don't make stuff like that no more ;-) One fine day this coming

winter I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> will take hubs, bottom bracket and headset apart and supply new

balls and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> grease - out of curiousity. I actually believe they would do fine
> without
> that.
>
> Ivar

Actually, Miche grease, still available, is very similar to old

Campag

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

grease. Available in tubes and tubs, I mix it with Phil and old

Campag

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

grease.

Years ago, I recall many saying that Pennzoil white grease was very

similar

Quoted message said:

to Campy. In fact, this place still states it:

http://tinyurl.com/y38e42

White grease contains lithium which is supposed to provide corrosion
resistance.

"The term Lithium Grease can be slightly misleading as the lithium
content is actually the thickener used to thicken the oil content to
make it a grease as opposed to an oil. The formulation of a lithium
grease includes a mineral or synthetic base oil, combined with a lithium
thickener, and other additives, to suit special applications."

Lithium grease was/is supposed to be more water resistant than other
greases. At one time it was called washing machine grease.

Grease is a formulation of soap and oil. The active
molecule in soap is a long chain that is attractive to
oil at one end and polar at the other end. The result
is a gooey mass (technically a gel) in which one end of
the soap molecule is attracted to the oil and the polar
ends are attracted to one another.

Soap is made by combining animal fat or vegetable fat
with sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide, a process
called saponification. A sodium atom gets attached to
the end of a fat molecule, becoming the polar, water
attractive end. Often potassium hydroxide is used. The
lithium in lithium grease is from lithium hydroxide
used in the soap that goes into the grease. Indeed,
lithium grease is resistant to water, compared to
sodium grease. Lithium, potassium, and sodium are among
the alkali metals.

Saponification is the reason that when lye or aqueous
ammonia are on your skin they feel slippery; the lye
combines with the oil in your skin to make soap.

--
Michael Press

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* * Chas said:

"bfd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
> Ivar Hesselager wrote:
>> Thanks to all for suggestions and encouragment. I put the QR

on

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the

Quoted message said:

>> heavy
>> wooden lit of my grandfathers old toolbox and hit it four times

with a

Quoted message said:

>> rubber mallet. That straightened it with no harm done to the

threads.

Quoted message said:

>> As soon as I had the courage, it was easy.
>>
>> I still have from my younger days half a jar of Campagnolo

special

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> grease:
>> Lubricante per movimento a sfere e a rulli. Real vintage

grease.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

(They

Quoted message said:

>> don't make stuff like that no more ;-) One fine day this

coming

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

winter I

Quoted message said:

>> will take hubs, bottom bracket and headset apart and supply new

balls and

Quoted message said:

>> grease - out of curiousity. I actually believe they would do

fine

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> without
>> that.
>>
>> Ivar
>
> Actually, Miche grease, still available, is very similar to old

Campag

Quoted message said:

> grease. Available in tubes and tubs, I mix it with Phil and old

Campag

Quoted message said:

> grease.
>
Years ago, I recall many saying that Pennzoil white grease was

very

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

similar

Quoted message said:

to Campy. In fact, this place still states it:

http://tinyurl.com/y38e42

White grease contains lithium which is supposed to provide corrosion
resistance.

"The term Lithium Grease can be slightly misleading as the lithium
content is actually the thickener used to thicken the oil content to
make it a grease as opposed to an oil. The formulation of a lithium
grease includes a mineral or synthetic base oil, combined with a

lithium

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

thickener, and other additives, to suit special applications."

Lithium grease was/is supposed to be more water resistant than other
greases. At one time it was called washing machine grease.

Grease is a formulation of soap and oil. The active
molecule in soap is a long chain that is attractive to
oil at one end and polar at the other end. The result
is a gooey mass (technically a gel) in which one end of
the soap molecule is attracted to the oil and the polar
ends are attracted to one another.

Soap is made by combining animal fat or vegetable fat
with sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide, a process
called saponification. A sodium atom gets attached to
the end of a fat molecule, becoming the polar, water
attractive end. Often potassium hydroxide is used. The
lithium in lithium grease is from lithium hydroxide
used in the soap that goes into the grease. Indeed,
lithium grease is resistant to water, compared to
sodium grease. Lithium, potassium, and sodium are among
the alkali metals.

Saponification is the reason that when lye or aqueous
ammonia are on your skin they feel slippery; the lye
combines with the oil in your skin to make soap.

--
Michael Press

Interesting information. thanks.

Do you know anything about "fiber grease"?

Ten to fifteen years ago, I used to use Quaker State automotive wheel
bearing grease because the fibrous viscosity tended to keep it in place
in areas like headsets.

After 10 years or so, I found that this grease has broken down and the
more volatile parts have run out of the bearings.

Chas.

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* * Chas said:

"bfd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
> "Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> >
> > Ivar Hesselager wrote:
> >> Thanks to all for suggestions and encouragment. I put the QR

on

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the
> >> heavy
> >> wooden lit of my grandfathers old toolbox and hit it four times
with a
> >> rubber mallet. That straightened it with no harm done to the
threads.
> >> As soon as I had the courage, it was easy.
> >>
> >> I still have from my younger days half a jar of Campagnolo

special

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> grease:
> >> Lubricante per movimento a sfere e a rulli. Real vintage

grease.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

(They
> >> don't make stuff like that no more ;-) One fine day this

coming

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

winter I
> >> will take hubs, bottom bracket and headset apart and supply new
balls and
> >> grease - out of curiousity. I actually believe they would do

fine

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> without
> >> that.
> >>
> >> Ivar
> >
> > Actually, Miche grease, still available, is very similar to old
Campag
> > grease. Available in tubes and tubs, I mix it with Phil and old
Campag
> > grease.
> >
> Years ago, I recall many saying that Pennzoil white grease was

very

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

similar
> to Campy. In fact, this place still states it:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y38e42
>
>

White grease contains lithium which is supposed to provide corrosion
resistance.

"The term Lithium Grease can be slightly misleading as the lithium
content is actually the thickener used to thicken the oil content to
make it a grease as opposed to an oil. The formulation of a lithium
grease includes a mineral or synthetic base oil, combined with a

lithium

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

thickener, and other additives, to suit special applications."

Lithium grease was/is supposed to be more water resistant than other
greases. At one time it was called washing machine grease.

Grease is a formulation of soap and oil. The active
molecule in soap is a long chain that is attractive to
oil at one end and polar at the other end. The result
is a gooey mass (technically a gel) in which one end of
the soap molecule is attracted to the oil and the polar
ends are attracted to one another.

Soap is made by combining animal fat or vegetable fat
with sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide, a process
called saponification. A sodium atom gets attached to
the end of a fat molecule, becoming the polar, water
attractive end. Often potassium hydroxide is used. The
lithium in lithium grease is from lithium hydroxide
used in the soap that goes into the grease. Indeed,
lithium grease is resistant to water, compared to
sodium grease. Lithium, potassium, and sodium are among
the alkali metals.

Saponification is the reason that when lye or aqueous
ammonia are on your skin they feel slippery; the lye
combines with the oil in your skin to make soap.

Interesting information. thanks.

Do you know anything about "fiber grease"?

No. Of course the folks who research this stuff for a
living will develop refinements. The idea is to make a
mass of goop that sticks around and delivers oil to the
mating surfaces.

Quoted message said:

Ten to fifteen years ago, I used to use Quaker State automotive wheel
bearing grease because the fibrous viscosity tended to keep it in place
in areas like headsets.

After 10 years or so, I found that this grease has broken down and the
more volatile parts have run out of the bearings.

Only 10 years! 🙂

--
Michael Press

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"* * Chas" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> "bfd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email hidden]> wrote in

message

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> > news:[email hidden]...
> > >
> > > Ivar Hesselager wrote:
> > >> Thanks to all for suggestions and encouragment. I put the

QR

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on

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> the
> > >> heavy
> > >> wooden lit of my grandfathers old toolbox and hit it four

times

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> with a
> > >> rubber mallet. That straightened it with no harm done to

the

Quoted message said:

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> threads.
> > >> As soon as I had the courage, it was easy.
> > >>
> > >> I still have from my younger days half a jar of Campagnolo

special

Quoted message said:

> > >> grease:
> > >> Lubricante per movimento a sfere e a rulli. Real vintage

grease.

Quoted message said:

> (They
> > >> don't make stuff like that no more ;-) One fine day this

coming

Quoted message said:

> winter I
> > >> will take hubs, bottom bracket and headset apart and supply

new

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> balls and
> > >> grease - out of curiousity. I actually believe they would

do

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

fine

Quoted message said:

> > >> without
> > >> that.
> > >>
> > >> Ivar
> > >
> > > Actually, Miche grease, still available, is very similar to

old

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Campag
> > > grease. Available in tubes and tubs, I mix it with Phil and

old

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Campag
> > > grease.
> > >
> > Years ago, I recall many saying that Pennzoil white grease was

very

Quoted message said:

> similar
> > to Campy. In fact, this place still states it:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/y38e42
> >
> >
>
> White grease contains lithium which is supposed to provide

corrosion

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> resistance.
>
> "The term Lithium Grease can be slightly misleading as the

lithium

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> content is actually the thickener used to thicken the oil

content to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> make it a grease as opposed to an oil. The formulation of a

lithium

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> grease includes a mineral or synthetic base oil, combined with a

lithium

Quoted message said:

> thickener, and other additives, to suit special applications."
>
>
> Lithium grease was/is supposed to be more water resistant than

other

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> greases. At one time it was called washing machine grease.

Grease is a formulation of soap and oil. The active
molecule in soap is a long chain that is attractive to
oil at one end and polar at the other end. The result
is a gooey mass (technically a gel) in which one end of
the soap molecule is attracted to the oil and the polar
ends are attracted to one another.

Soap is made by combining animal fat or vegetable fat
with sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide, a process
called saponification. A sodium atom gets attached to
the end of a fat molecule, becoming the polar, water
attractive end. Often potassium hydroxide is used. The
lithium in lithium grease is from lithium hydroxide
used in the soap that goes into the grease. Indeed,
lithium grease is resistant to water, compared to
sodium grease. Lithium, potassium, and sodium are among
the alkali metals.

Saponification is the reason that when lye or aqueous
ammonia are on your skin they feel slippery; the lye
combines with the oil in your skin to make soap.

Interesting information. thanks.

Do you know anything about "fiber grease"?

No. Of course the folks who research this stuff for a
living will develop refinements. The idea is to make a
mass of goop that sticks around and delivers oil to the
mating surfaces.

Quoted message said:

Ten to fifteen years ago, I used to use Quaker State automotive

wheel

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

bearing grease because the fibrous viscosity tended to keep it in

place

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

in areas like headsets.

After 10 years or so, I found that this grease has broken down and

the

Quoted message said:

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more volatile parts have run out of the bearings.

Only 10 years! 🙂

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Michael Press

Back in 1992 or so I put together a couple of new bikes and repacked the
headsets and hubs on several others using Quaker State wheel bearing
grease. I hadn't been riding too much in the interim because of knee
problems and a bad hip that I had replaced.

When I started riding again this spring, I noticed that the lighter oil
had leaked out of my non-sealed bearing hubs and headsets (no problems
with the Phil sealed bearing BBs or hubs).

Many years ago in a class on lubricants in engineering school, we were
taught about the benefits of "fiber grease" for wheel bearings. It was
inferred that the grease contained some kind of fibers. I never got a
good explanation. I just kept using it for cars, bikes, motorcycles and
so on. I still have 1/2 a can of the stuff sitting in my garage since
1992. It's partially dried out.

BTW, I've seen a lot of applications where old lithium grease partially
or completely dried out including Campy headsets, hubs and BBs.

Chas.

* * Chas said:

BTW, I've seen a lot of applications where old lithium grease partially
or completely dried out including Campy headsets, hubs and BBs.

Cable housing, too.
A very good reason to lubricate cables with fluid oil, instead of
grease.

Sergio
Pisa

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* * Chas said:

BTW, I've seen a lot of applications where old lithium grease

partially

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or completely dried out including Campy headsets, hubs and BBs.

Cable housing, too.
A very good reason to lubricate cables with fluid oil, instead of
grease.

Sergio
Pisa

I've been using cable housings with the inner liner tube for 30 years.
I've always used Phil Wood grease for all of my cables. I have several
bikes that I assembled in the early 1980's and the 20+ years old Phil
grease still keeps the cables running smooth.

Chas.