Re: Labs Back--I'm diabetic now. :(

On Apr 22, 7:09 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Nancy said:

Hello all-

Quoted message said:

<big vent>

Quoted message said:

After fighting my HMO over my eating problems for over a year and a half, and
totally loosing, I am now a frank diabetic. GD KAISER!

Quoted message said:

It's like they set me up from day one to fail, so they can put me on medications
and be done with me. sxxx heads

Quoted message said:

I can't tell you how hard it is to write this. Maybe if I show my labs (which
takes time to cut and paste, I'll stop crying)

Quoted message said:

October HBA1C 5.3
April 5.4

Optimal is 4.7 or less.

Quoted message said:

Lipid Panels
October Cholesterol 192
April Cholesterol 169

Optimal.

Quoted message said:

October Tri 143
April Tri 232

Optimal is less than 150 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

October HDL 50
April HDL 50

Optimal is more than 50 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Oct LDL calculated 113
April LDL calculated 73

Optimal.

Quoted message said:

October GLU fasting 114 (guesstimate, because it isn't in my chart, they are
still working on this electronic system)
April Glucose fasting 127

Optimal is less than 100 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

no Oct test done
April TPO (thyroid antibodies) 63 sb <35 IU/mL

Not normal.

Quoted message said:

Oct Creatinine 1
April results not in yet

Quoted message said:

October TSH 2.1
April TSH 9 (low end--especially for me)

Quoted message said:

Better. 🙂

This is actually not good. It means you are starting to be more
hypothyroid. This may explain some of your increased insulin
resistance. Would suggest you seek a referral to consult with an
endocrinologist about possibly increasing you on thyroid replacement
hormone therapy.

Quoted message said:

My blood was drawn Wednesday and the results are placed in my personal/secret
file for me to retrieve forever (secure web site). So, here I am watching my
results come in one at a time and it didn't take long, before I realized what
this all meant.

Quoted message said:

It appears that I should immediately increase my thyroid dose, which I did six
months ago also. And it appears that it is possible that changes in my thyroid
are causing changes in my diabetes. (didn't type the pre this time)

Correct.

Quoted message said:

I'm not taking it well, because I really wanted to try diet and exercise.

You really need to lose all your visceral adipose tissue (VAT) which
is causing your insulin resistance (aka metabolic syndrome or MetS).

Quoted message said:

I was following as low a carb diet as I could afford calorie wise. No pasta, no
"white" foods, etc. but just the basics and I think I slipped a bit. I always
have used fresh ingredients, etc. etc. etc. However, I just went along eating
one meal/day with no help in sight. I'm prone to hypos when I start adding food
back in, so that is one problem. I've developed food aversions from delaying my
thyroid surgery--I had a tumor constricting my esophagus and my wind pipe.

Quoted message said:

I have a very weird eating disorder, and all kinds of other things going on. I
can't exercise the way I should, because I also have fibromyalgia. To talk
about all of this, seems so petty compared to others.

Your fibromylagia may be arising from the inflammatory cytokines from
your VAT.

Quoted message said:

How is he going to even prescribe medication for me? This is so much like a bad
dream that you can't wake yourself from.

Quoted message said:

**In the meantime what if the doctor wants me to go on medication, even though
he never gave diet and exercise a chance, because he did not rigorously try to
find someone to help me eat?**

Quoted message said:

I guess pouting does no one any good. I'm almost certain he will want me on
medication, because all three docs I've had since Feb. 04 have wanted me to take
medication and I was pre-diabetic. I've got a great article on this phenomena:
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14046702.php

Quoted message said:

My appointment is 2:30 PM PDT and I will be on line in the morning.
It took me a while before I was able to post about it.

Quoted message said:

Nancy
needs a new sig

May reading the following help you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
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Hey, ass-chung,

Are you licensed to practise medicine online? Does the AMA approve of
this? Can you make legally medical diagnoses in newsgroups? Idiot.

Tunderbar said:

On Apr 22, 7:09 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Nancy said:

Hello all-

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

<big vent>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

After fighting my HMO over my eating problems for over a year and a half, and
totally loosing, I am now a frank diabetic. GD KAISER!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's like they set me up from day one to fail, so they can put me on medications
and be done with me. sxxx heads

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I can't tell you how hard it is to write this. Maybe if I show my labs (which
takes time to cut and paste, I'll stop crying)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

October HBA1C 5.3
April 5.4

Quoted message said:

Optimal is 4.7 or less.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Lipid Panels
October Cholesterol 192
April Cholesterol 169

Quoted message said:

Optimal.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

October Tri 143
April Tri 232

Quoted message said:

Optimal is less than 150 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

October HDL 50
April HDL 50

Quoted message said:

Optimal is more than 50 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Oct LDL calculated 113
April LDL calculated 73

Quoted message said:

Optimal.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

October GLU fasting 114 (guesstimate, because it isn't in my chart, they are
still working on this electronic system)
April Glucose fasting 127

Quoted message said:

Optimal is less than 100 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

no Oct test done
April TPO (thyroid antibodies) 63 sb <35 IU/mL

Quoted message said:

Not normal.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Oct Creatinine 1
April results not in yet

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

October TSH 2.1
April TSH 9 (low end--especially for me)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Better. 🙂

Quoted message said:

This is actually not good. It means you are starting to be more
hypothyroid. This may explain some of your increased insulin
resistance. Would suggest you seek a referral to consult with an
endocrinologist about possibly increasing you on thyroid replacement
hormone therapy.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

My blood was drawn Wednesday and the results are placed in my personal/secret
file for me to retrieve forever (secure web site). So, here I am watching my
results come in one at a time and it didn't take long, before I realized what
this all meant.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It appears that I should immediately increase my thyroid dose, which I did six
months ago also. And it appears that it is possible that changes in my thyroid
are causing changes in my diabetes. (didn't type the pre this time)

Quoted message said:

Correct.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm not taking it well, because I really wanted to try diet and exercise.

Quoted message said:

You really need to lose all your visceral adipose tissue (VAT) which
is causing your insulin resistance (aka metabolic syndrome or MetS).

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I was following as low a carb diet as I could afford calorie wise. No pasta, no
"white" foods, etc. but just the basics and I think I slipped a bit. I always
have used fresh ingredients, etc. etc. etc. However, I just went along eating
one meal/day with no help in sight. I'm prone to hypos when I start adding food
back in, so that is one problem. I've developed food aversions from delaying my
thyroid surgery--I had a tumor constricting my esophagus and my wind pipe.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I have a very weird eating disorder, and all kinds of other things going on. I
can't exercise the way I should, because I also have fibromyalgia. To talk
about all of this, seems so petty compared to others.

Quoted message said:

Your fibromylagia may be arising from the inflammatory cytokines from
your VAT.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

How is he going to even prescribe medication for me? This is so much like a bad
dream that you can't wake yourself from.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

**In the meantime what if the doctor wants me to go on medication, even though
he never gave diet and exercise a chance, because he did not rigorously try to
find someone to help me eat?**

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I guess pouting does no one any good. I'm almost certain he will want me on
medication, because all three docs I've had since Feb. 04 have wanted me to take
medication and I was pre-diabetic. I've got a great article on this phenomena:
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14046702.php

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

My appointment is 2:30 PM PDT and I will be on line in the morning.
It took me a while before I was able to post about it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Nancy
needs a new sig

Quoted message said:

May reading the following help you:

Quoted message said:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp

Don't worry doc,you can post anything you want, on this is news
group,anything news worthy is ok.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Quoted message said:

Andrew <><
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Hey, ass-chung,

Are you licensed to practise medicine online? Does the AMA approve of
this? Can you make legally medical diagnoses in newsgroups? Idiot.

coaster1robert said:

Tunderbar said:

On Apr 22, 7:09 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Nancy wrote:
> Hello all-

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> <big vent>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> After fighting my HMO over my eating problems for over a year and a half, and
> totally loosing, I am now a frank diabetic. GD KAISER!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> It's like they set me up from day one to fail, so they can put me on medications
> and be done with me. sxxx heads

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> I can't tell you how hard it is to write this. Maybe if I show my labs (which
> takes time to cut and paste, I'll stop crying)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> October HBA1C 5.3
> April 5.4

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Optimal is 4.7 or less.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Lipid Panels
> October Cholesterol 192
> April Cholesterol 169

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Optimal.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> October Tri 143
> April Tri 232

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Optimal is less than 150 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> October HDL 50
> April HDL 50

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Optimal is more than 50 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Oct LDL calculated 113
> April LDL calculated 73

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Optimal.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> October GLU fasting 114 (guesstimate, because it isn't in my chart, they are
> still working on this electronic system)
> April Glucose fasting 127

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Optimal is less than 100 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> no Oct test done
> April TPO (thyroid antibodies) 63 sb <35 IU/mL

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Not normal.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Oct Creatinine 1
> April results not in yet

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> October TSH 2.1
> April TSH 9 (low end--especially for me)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Better. 🙂

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

This is actually not good. It means you are starting to be more
hypothyroid. This may explain some of your increased insulin
resistance. Would suggest you seek a referral to consult with an
endocrinologist about possibly increasing you on thyroid replacement
hormone therapy.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> My blood was drawn Wednesday and the results are placed in my personal/secret
> file for me to retrieve forever (secure web site). So, here I am watching my
> results come in one at a time and it didn't take long, before I realized what
> this all meant.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> It appears that I should immediately increase my thyroid dose, which I did six
> months ago also. And it appears that it is possible that changes in my thyroid
> are causing changes in my diabetes. (didn't type the pre this time)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Correct.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> I'm not taking it well, because I really wanted to try diet and exercise.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

You really need to lose all your visceral adipose tissue (VAT) which
is causing your insulin resistance (aka metabolic syndrome or MetS).

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> I was following as low a carb diet as I could afford calorie wise. No pasta, no
> "white" foods, etc. but just the basics and I think I slipped a bit. I always
> have used fresh ingredients, etc. etc. etc. However, I just went along eating
> one meal/day with no help in sight. I'm prone to hypos when I start adding food
> back in, so that is one problem. I've developed food aversions from delaying my
> thyroid surgery--I had a tumor constricting my esophagus and my wind pipe.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> I have a very weird eating disorder, and all kinds of other things going on. I
> can't exercise the way I should, because I also have fibromyalgia. To talk
> about all of this, seems so petty compared to others.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Your fibromylagia may be arising from the inflammatory cytokines from
your VAT.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> How is he going to even prescribe medication for me? This is so much like a bad
> dream that you can't wake yourself from.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> **In the meantime what if the doctor wants me to go on medication, even though
> he never gave diet and exercise a chance, because he did not rigorously try to
> find someone to help me eat?**

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> I guess pouting does no one any good. I'm almost certain he will want me on
> medication, because all three docs I've had since Feb. 04 have wanted me to take
> medication and I was pre-diabetic. I've got a great article on this phenomena:
>http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14046702.php

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> My appointment is 2:30 PM PDT and I will be on line in the morning.
> It took me a while before I was able to post about it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Nancy
> needs a new sig

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

May reading the following help you:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp

Don't worry doc,you can post anything you want, on this is news
group,anything news worthy is ok.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Andrew <><
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Hey, ass-chung,

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I don't think the board certified quack will still be board certified
if he "practices" medicine thru a newsgroup. It is illegal to practice
medicine like that.

Tunderbar said:

On Apr 22, 7:09 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Nancy said:

Hello all-

Quoted message said:

<big vent>

Quoted message said:

After fighting my HMO over my eating problems for over a year and a half, and
totally loosing, I am now a frank diabetic. GD KAISER!

Quoted message said:

It's like they set me up from day one to fail, so they can put me on medications
and be done with me. sxxx heads

Quoted message said:

I can't tell you how hard it is to write this. Maybe if I show my labs (which
takes time to cut and paste, I'll stop crying)

Quoted message said:

October HBA1C 5.3
April 5.4

Optimal is 4.7 or less.

Quoted message said:

Lipid Panels
October Cholesterol 192
April Cholesterol 169

Optimal.

Quoted message said:

October Tri 143
April Tri 232

Optimal is less than 150 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

October HDL 50
April HDL 50

Optimal is more than 50 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Oct LDL calculated 113
April LDL calculated 73

Optimal.

Quoted message said:

October GLU fasting 114 (guesstimate, because it isn't in my chart, they are
still working on this electronic system)
April Glucose fasting 127

Optimal is less than 100 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

no Oct test done
April TPO (thyroid antibodies) 63 sb <35 IU/mL

Not normal.

Quoted message said:

Oct Creatinine 1
April results not in yet

Quoted message said:

October TSH 2.1
April TSH 9 (low end--especially for me)

Quoted message said:

Better. 🙂

This is actually not good. It means you are starting to be more
hypothyroid. This may explain some of your increased insulin
resistance. Would suggest you seek a referral to consult with an
endocrinologist about possibly increasing you on thyroid replacement
hormone therapy.

Quoted message said:

My blood was drawn Wednesday and the results are placed in my personal/secret
file for me to retrieve forever (secure web site). So, here I am watching my
results come in one at a time and it didn't take long, before I realized what
this all meant.

Quoted message said:

It appears that I should immediately increase my thyroid dose, which I did six
months ago also. And it appears that it is possible that changes in my thyroid
are causing changes in my diabetes. (didn't type the pre this time)

Correct.

Quoted message said:

I'm not taking it well, because I really wanted to try diet and exercise.

You really need to lose all your visceral adipose tissue (VAT) which
is causing your insulin resistance (aka metabolic syndrome or MetS).

Quoted message said:

I was following as low a carb diet as I could afford calorie wise. No pasta, no
"white" foods, etc. but just the basics and I think I slipped a bit. I always
have used fresh ingredients, etc. etc. etc. However, I just went along eating
one meal/day with no help in sight. I'm prone to hypos when I start adding food
back in, so that is one problem. I've developed food aversions from delaying my
thyroid surgery--I had a tumor constricting my esophagus and my wind pipe.

Quoted message said:

I have a very weird eating disorder, and all kinds of other things going on. I
can't exercise the way I should, because I also have fibromyalgia. To talk
about all of this, seems so petty compared to others.

Your fibromylagia may be arising from the inflammatory cytokines from
your VAT.

Quoted message said:

How is he going to even prescribe medication for me? This is so much like a bad
dream that you can't wake yourself from.

Quoted message said:

**In the meantime what if the doctor wants me to go on medication, even though
he never gave diet and exercise a chance, because he did not rigorously try to
find someone to help me eat?**

Quoted message said:

I guess pouting does no one any good. I'm almost certain he will want me on
medication, because all three docs I've had since Feb. 04 have wanted me to take
medication and I was pre-diabetic. I've got a great article on this phenomena:
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14046702.php

Quoted message said:

My appointment is 2:30 PM PDT and I will be on line in the morning.
It took me a while before I was able to post about it.

Quoted message said:

Nancy
needs a new sig

May reading the following help you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
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Hey, ass-chung,

Are you licensed to practise medicine online? Does the AMA approve of
this? Can you make legally medical diagnoses in newsgroups? Idiot.

I don't know what your problem is, but seeking a referral to an endo would
seem very appropriate to me.

ray said:

satan said:

Andrew said:

Nancy wrote:
> Hello all-

> <big vent>

> After fighting my HMO over my eating problems for over a year and a half, and
> totally loosing, I am now a frank diabetic. GD KAISER!

> It's like they set me up from day one to fail, so they can put me on medications
> and be done with me. sxxx heads

> I can't tell you how hard it is to write this. Maybe if I show my labs (which
> takes time to cut and paste, I'll stop crying)

> October HBA1C 5.3
> April 5.4

Optimal is 4.7 or less.

> Lipid Panels
> October Cholesterol 192
> April Cholesterol 169

Optimal.

> October Tri 143
> April Tri 232

Optimal is less than 150 mg/dl.

> October HDL 50
> April HDL 50

Optimal is more than 50 mg/dl.

> Oct LDL calculated 113
> April LDL calculated 73

Optimal.

> October GLU fasting 114 (guesstimate, because it isn't in my chart, they are
> still working on this electronic system)
> April Glucose fasting 127

Optimal is less than 100 mg/dl.

> no Oct test done
> April TPO (thyroid antibodies) 63 sb <35 IU/mL

Not normal.

> Oct Creatinine 1
> April results not in yet

> October TSH 2.1
> April TSH 9 (low end--especially for me)

> Better. 🙂

This is actually not good. It means you are starting to be more
hypothyroid. This may explain some of your increased insulin
resistance. Would suggest you seek a referral to consult with an
endocrinologist about possibly increasing you on thyroid replacement
hormone therapy.

<snip>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hey, ass-chung,

Are you licensed to practise medicine online? Does the AMA approve of
this? Can you make legally medical diagnoses in newsgroups? Idiot.

I don't know what your problem is, but seeking a referral to an endo would
seem very appropriate to me.

The problem is that satan remains angry about the eternal defeat my
LORD has handed to him.

May GOD bless you.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Weight loss diets can't be combined with well-balanced diets."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hey, ass-chung,

Are you licensed to practise medicine online? Does the AMA approve
of this? Can you make legally medical diagnoses in newsgroups?
Idiot.

I don't know what your problem is, but seeking a referral to an endo
would seem very appropriate to me.

The problem is that satan remains angry about the eternal defeat my
LORD has handed to him.

Maybe Satan needs an MRI.

friend coaster1robert said:

satan via a sockpuppet (demon) said:

Andrew said:

Nancy wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Hello all-

Quoted message said:

> <big vent>

Quoted message said:

> After fighting my HMO over my eating problems for over a year and a half, and
> totally loosing, I am now a frank diabetic. GD KAISER!

Quoted message said:

> It's like they set me up from day one to fail, so they can put me on medications
> and be done with me. sxxx heads

Quoted message said:

> I can't tell you how hard it is to write this. Maybe if I show my labs (which
> takes time to cut and paste, I'll stop crying)

Quoted message said:

> October HBA1C 5.3
> April 5.4

Quoted message said:

Optimal is 4.7 or less.

Quoted message said:

> Lipid Panels
> October Cholesterol 192
> April Cholesterol 169

Quoted message said:

Optimal.

Quoted message said:

> October Tri 143
> April Tri 232

Quoted message said:

Optimal is less than 150 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

> October HDL 50
> April HDL 50

Quoted message said:

Optimal is more than 50 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

> Oct LDL calculated 113
> April LDL calculated 73

Quoted message said:

Optimal.

Quoted message said:

> October GLU fasting 114 (guesstimate, because it isn't in my chart, they are
> still working on this electronic system)
> April Glucose fasting 127

Quoted message said:

Optimal is less than 100 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

> no Oct test done
> April TPO (thyroid antibodies) 63 sb <35 IU/mL

Quoted message said:

Not normal.

Quoted message said:

> Oct Creatinine 1
> April results not in yet

Quoted message said:

> October TSH 2.1
> April TSH 9 (low end--especially for me)

Quoted message said:

> Better. 🙂

Quoted message said:

This is actually not good. It means you are starting to be more
hypothyroid. This may explain some of your increased insulin
resistance. Would suggest you seek a referral to consult with an
endocrinologist about possibly increasing you on thyroid replacement
hormone therapy.

Quoted message said:

> My blood was drawn Wednesday and the results are placed in my personal/secret
> file for me to retrieve forever (secure web site). So, here I am watching my
> results come in one at a time and it didn't take long, before I realized what
> this all meant.

Quoted message said:

> It appears that I should immediately increase my thyroid dose, which I did six
> months ago also. And it appears that it is possible that changes in my thyroid
> are causing changes in my diabetes. (didn't type the pre this time)

Quoted message said:

Correct.

Quoted message said:

> I'm not taking it well, because I really wanted to try diet and exercise.

Quoted message said:

You really need to lose all your visceral adipose tissue (VAT) which
is causing your insulin resistance (aka metabolic syndrome or MetS).

Quoted message said:

> I was following as low a carb diet as I could afford calorie wise. No pasta, no
> "white" foods, etc. but just the basics and I think I slipped a bit. I always
> have used fresh ingredients, etc. etc. etc. However, I just went along eating
> one meal/day with no help in sight. I'm prone to hypos when I start adding food
> back in, so that is one problem. I've developed food aversions from delaying my
> thyroid surgery--I had a tumor constricting my esophagus and my wind pipe.

Quoted message said:

> I have a very weird eating disorder, and all kinds of other things going on. I
> can't exercise the way I should, because I also have fibromyalgia. To talk
> about all of this, seems so petty compared to others.

Quoted message said:

Your fibromylagia may be arising from the inflammatory cytokines from
your VAT.

Quoted message said:

> How is he going to even prescribe medication for me? This is so much like a bad
> dream that you can't wake yourself from.

Quoted message said:

> **In the meantime what if the doctor wants me to go on medication, even though
> he never gave diet and exercise a chance, because he did not rigorously try to
> find someone to help me eat?**

Quoted message said:

> I guess pouting does no one any good. I'm almost certain he will want me on
> medication, because all three docs I've had since Feb. 04 have wanted me to take
> medication and I was pre-diabetic. I've got a great article on this phenomena:
>http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14046702.php

Quoted message said:

> My appointment is 2:30 PM PDT and I will be on line in the morning.
> It took me a while before I was able to post about it.

Quoted message said:

> Nancy
> needs a new sig

Quoted message said:

May reading the following help you:

Quoted message said:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp

Don't worry doc,you can post anything you want, on this is news
group,anything news worthy is ok.

That is my understanding.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

MD/PhD said:

ray said:

satan said:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> Nancy wrote:
> > Hello all-

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > <big vent>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > After fighting my HMO over my eating problems for over a year and a half, and
> > totally loosing, I am now a frank diabetic. GD KAISER!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > It's like they set me up from day one to fail, so they can put me on medications
> > and be done with me. sxxx heads

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > I can't tell you how hard it is to write this. Maybe if I show my labs (which
> > takes time to cut and paste, I'll stop crying)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > October HBA1C 5.3
> > April 5.4

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Optimal is 4.7 or less.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > Lipid Panels
> > October Cholesterol 192
> > April Cholesterol 169

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Optimal.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > October Tri 143
> > April Tri 232

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Optimal is less than 150 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > October HDL 50
> > April HDL 50

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Optimal is more than 50 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > Oct LDL calculated 113
> > April LDL calculated 73

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Optimal.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > October GLU fasting 114 (guesstimate, because it isn't in my chart, they are
> > still working on this electronic system)
> > April Glucose fasting 127

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Optimal is less than 100 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > no Oct test done
> > April TPO (thyroid antibodies) 63 sb <35 IU/mL

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Not normal.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > Oct Creatinine 1
> > April results not in yet

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > October TSH 2.1
> > April TSH 9 (low end--especially for me)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > Better. 🙂

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> This is actually not good. It means you are starting to be more
> hypothyroid. This may explain some of your increased insulin
> resistance. Would suggest you seek a referral to consult with an
> endocrinologist about possibly increasing you on thyroid replacement
> hormone therapy.

<snip>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hey, ass-chung,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Are you licensed to practise medicine online? Does the AMA approve of
this? Can you make legally medical diagnoses in newsgroups? Idiot.

Quoted message said:

I don't know what your problem is, but seeking a referral to an endo would
seem very appropriate to me.

The problem is that satan remains angry about the eternal defeat my
LORD has handed to him.

Quit blaming poor Satan. He doesn't work for the AMA anyway.

purpurroterwald said:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote innews:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Hey, ass-chung,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Are you licensed to practise medicine online? Does the AMA approve
> of this? Can you make legally medical diagnoses in newsgroups?
> Idiot.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I don't know what your problem is, but seeking a referral to an endo
would seem very appropriate to me.

Quoted message said:

The problem is that satan remains angry about the eternal defeat my
LORD has handed to him.

Maybe Satan needs an MRI.

Maybe Earthquack needs a haloperidol patch.

convicted neighbot Haskell said:

Andrew said:

friend ray said:

satan, via a sockpuppet (demon), wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Nancy wrote:
>> > Hello all-

Quoted message said:

>> > <big vent>

Quoted message said:

>> > After fighting my HMO over my eating problems for over a year and a half, and
>> > totally loosing, I am now a frank diabetic. GD KAISER!

Quoted message said:

>> > It's like they set me up from day one to fail, so they can put me on medications
>> > and be done with me. sxxx heads

Quoted message said:

>> > I can't tell you how hard it is to write this. Maybe if I show my labs (which
>> > takes time to cut and paste, I'll stop crying)

Quoted message said:

>> > October HBA1C 5.3
>> > April 5.4

Quoted message said:

>> Optimal is 4.7 or less.

Quoted message said:

>> > Lipid Panels
>> > October Cholesterol 192
>> > April Cholesterol 169

Quoted message said:

>> Optimal.

Quoted message said:

>> > October Tri 143
>> > April Tri 232

Quoted message said:

>> Optimal is less than 150 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

>> > October HDL 50
>> > April HDL 50

Quoted message said:

>> Optimal is more than 50 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

>> > Oct LDL calculated 113
>> > April LDL calculated 73

Quoted message said:

>> Optimal.

Quoted message said:

>> > October GLU fasting 114 (guesstimate, because it isn't in my chart, they are
>> > still working on this electronic system)
>> > April Glucose fasting 127

Quoted message said:

>> Optimal is less than 100 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

>> > no Oct test done
>> > April TPO (thyroid antibodies) 63 sb <35 IU/mL

Quoted message said:

>> Not normal.

Quoted message said:

>> > Oct Creatinine 1
>> > April results not in yet

Quoted message said:

>> > October TSH 2.1
>> > April TSH 9 (low end--especially for me)

Quoted message said:

>> > Better. 🙂

Quoted message said:

>> This is actually not good. It means you are starting to be more
>> hypothyroid. This may explain some of your increased insulin
>> resistance. Would suggest you seek a referral to consult with an
>> endocrinologist about possibly increasing you on thyroid replacement
>> hormone therapy.

<snip>

Quoted message said:

> Hey, ass-chung,

Quoted message said:

> Are you licensed to practise medicine online? Does the AMA approve of
> this? Can you make legally medical diagnoses in newsgroups? Idiot.

Quoted message said:

I don't know what your problem is, but seeking a referral to an endo would
seem very appropriate to me.

The problem is that satan remains angry about the eternal defeat my
LORD has handed to him.

Quit blaming poor Satan.

Your deteriorating reading comprehension does not bode well.

May GOD keep your heart beating long enough for you to get this
checked out.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

convicted neighbot Haskell said:

Andrew said:

friend ray wrote:
> satan, via a sockpuppet (demon), wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Nancy wrote:
> >> > Hello all-

> >> > <big vent>

> >> > After fighting my HMO over my eating problems for over a
> >> > year and a half, and totally loosing, I am now a frank
> >> > diabetic. GD KAISER!

> >> > It's like they set me up from day one to fail, so they can
> >> > put me on medications and be done with me. sxxx heads

> >> > I can't tell you how hard it is to write this. Maybe if I
> >> > show my labs (which takes time to cut and paste, I'll stop
> >> > crying)

> >> > October HBA1C 5.3
> >> > April 5.4

> >> Optimal is 4.7 or less.

> >> > Lipid Panels
> >> > October Cholesterol 192
> >> > April Cholesterol 169

> >> Optimal.

> >> > October Tri 143
> >> > April Tri 232

> >> Optimal is less than 150 mg/dl.

> >> > October HDL 50
> >> > April HDL 50

> >> Optimal is more than 50 mg/dl.

> >> > Oct LDL calculated 113
> >> > April LDL calculated 73

> >> Optimal.

> >> > October GLU fasting 114 (guesstimate, because it
> >> > isn't in my chart, they are still working on this electronic
> >> > system) April Glucose fasting 127

> >> Optimal is less than 100 mg/dl.

> >> > no Oct test done
> >> > April TPO (thyroid antibodies) 63 sb <35 IU/mL

> >> Not normal.

> >> > Oct Creatinine 1
> >> > April results not in yet

> >> > October TSH 2.1
> >> > April TSH 9 (low end--especially for me)

> >> > Better. 🙂

> >> This is actually not good. It means you are starting to be
> >> more hypothyroid. This may explain some of your increased
> >> insulin resistance. Would suggest you seek a referral to
> >> consult with an endocrinologist about possibly increasing you
> >> on thyroid replacement hormone therapy.

<snip>

> > Hey, ass-chung,

> > Are you licensed to practise medicine online? Does the AMA
> > approve of this? Can you make legally medical diagnoses in
> > newsgroups? Idiot.

> I don't know what your problem is, but seeking a referral to an
> endo would seem very appropriate to me.

The problem is that satan remains angry about the eternal defeat my
LORD has handed to him.

Quit blaming poor Satan.

Your deteriorating reading comprehension does not bode well.

So you're saying that Satan wasn't really defeated?

purpurroterwald said:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

convicted neighbot Haskell said:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> friend ray wrote:
>> satan, via a sockpuppet (demon), wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Nancy wrote:
>>>>> Hello all-
>>>>> <big vent>
>>>>> After fighting my HMO over my eating problems for over a
>>>>> year and a half, and totally loosing, I am now a frank
>>>>> diabetic. GD KAISER!
>>>>> It's like they set me up from day one to fail, so they can
>>>>> put me on medications and be done with me. sxxx heads
>>>>> I can't tell you how hard it is to write this. Maybe if I
>>>>> show my labs (which takes time to cut and paste, I'll stop
>>>>> crying)
>>>>> October HBA1C 5.3
>>>>> April 5.4
>>>> Optimal is 4.7 or less.
>>>>> Lipid Panels
>>>>> October Cholesterol 192
>>>>> April Cholesterol 169
>>>> Optimal.
>>>>> October Tri 143
>>>>> April Tri 232
>>>> Optimal is less than 150 mg/dl.
>>>>> October HDL 50
>>>>> April HDL 50
>>>> Optimal is more than 50 mg/dl.
>>>>> Oct LDL calculated 113
>>>>> April LDL calculated 73
>>>> Optimal.
>>>>> October GLU fasting 114 (guesstimate, because it
>>>>> isn't in my chart, they are still working on this electronic
>>>>> system) April Glucose fasting 127
>>>> Optimal is less than 100 mg/dl.
>>>>> no Oct test done
>>>>> April TPO (thyroid antibodies) 63 sb <35 IU/mL
>>>> Not normal.
>>>>> Oct Creatinine 1
>>>>> April results not in yet
>>>>> October TSH 2.1
>>>>> April TSH 9 (low end--especially for me)
>>>>> Better. 🙂
>>>> This is actually not good. It means you are starting to be
>>>> more hypothyroid. This may explain some of your increased
>>>> insulin resistance. Would suggest you seek a referral to
>>>> consult with an endocrinologist about possibly increasing you
>>>> on thyroid replacement hormone therapy.
> <snip>
>
>>> Hey, ass-chung,
>>> Are you licensed to practise medicine online? Does the AMA
>>> approve of this? Can you make legally medical diagnoses in
>>> newsgroups? Idiot.
>> I don't know what your problem is, but seeking a referral to an
>> endo would seem very appropriate to me.
> The problem is that satan remains angry about the eternal defeat my
> LORD has handed to him.
Quit blaming poor Satan.

Your deteriorating reading comprehension does not bode well.

So you're saying that Satan wasn't really defeated?

Satan is still around, right?

MD/PhD said:

convicted neighbot Haskell said:

Andrew said:

friend ray wrote:
> satan, via a sockpuppet (demon), wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Nancy wrote:
> >> > Hello all-

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> > <big vent>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> > After fighting my HMO over my eating problems for over a year and a half, and
> >> > totally loosing, I am now a frank diabetic. GD KAISER!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> > It's like they set me up from day one to fail, so they can put me on medications
> >> > and be done with me. sxxx heads

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> > I can't tell you how hard it is to write this. Maybe if I show my labs (which
> >> > takes time to cut and paste, I'll stop crying)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> > October HBA1C 5.3
> >> > April 5.4

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> Optimal is 4.7 or less.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> > Lipid Panels
> >> > October Cholesterol 192
> >> > April Cholesterol 169

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> Optimal.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> > October Tri 143
> >> > April Tri 232

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> Optimal is less than 150 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> > October HDL 50
> >> > April HDL 50

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> Optimal is more than 50 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> > Oct LDL calculated 113
> >> > April LDL calculated 73

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> Optimal.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> > October GLU fasting 114 (guesstimate, because it isn't in my chart, they are
> >> > still working on this electronic system)
> >> > April Glucose fasting 127

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> Optimal is less than 100 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> > no Oct test done
> >> > April TPO (thyroid antibodies) 63 sb <35 IU/mL

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> Not normal.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> > Oct Creatinine 1
> >> > April results not in yet

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> > October TSH 2.1
> >> > April TSH 9 (low end--especially for me)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> > Better. 🙂

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >> This is actually not good. It means you are starting to be more
> >> hypothyroid. This may explain some of your increased insulin
> >> resistance. Would suggest you seek a referral to consult with an
> >> endocrinologist about possibly increasing you on thyroid replacement
> >> hormone therapy.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

<snip>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > Hey, ass-chung,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > Are you licensed to practise medicine online? Does the AMA approve of
> > this? Can you make legally medical diagnoses in newsgroups? Idiot.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> I don't know what your problem is, but seeking a referral to an endo would
> seem very appropriate to me.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The problem is that satan remains angry about the eternal defeat my
LORD has handed to him.

Quoted message said:

Quit blaming poor Satan.

Your deteriorating reading comprehension does not bode well.

May GOD keep your heart beating long enough for you to get this
checked out.

Those tallow candles on your basement altar -- are they goat tallow,
or baby human tallow?

Father Haskell said:

On Apr 26, 9:19 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Quoted message said:

convicted neighbot Haskell said:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> friend ray wrote:
> > satan, via a sockpuppet (demon), wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >> Nancy wrote:
> > >> > Hello all-

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> > <big vent>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> > After fighting my HMO over my eating problems for over a year and a half, and
> > >> > totally loosing, I am now a frank diabetic. GD KAISER!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> > It's like they set me up from day one to fail, so they can put me on medications
> > >> > and be done with me. sxxx heads

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> > I can't tell you how hard it is to write this. Maybe if I show my labs (which
> > >> > takes time to cut and paste, I'll stop crying)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> > October HBA1C 5.3
> > >> > April 5.4

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> Optimal is 4.7 or less.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> > Lipid Panels
> > >> > October Cholesterol 192
> > >> > April Cholesterol 169

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> Optimal.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> > October Tri 143
> > >> > April Tri 232

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> Optimal is less than 150 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> > October HDL 50
> > >> > April HDL 50

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> Optimal is more than 50 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> > Oct LDL calculated 113
> > >> > April LDL calculated 73

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> Optimal.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> > October GLU fasting 114 (guesstimate, because it isn't in my chart, they are
> > >> > still working on this electronic system)
> > >> > April Glucose fasting 127

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> Optimal is less than 100 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> > no Oct test done
> > >> > April TPO (thyroid antibodies) 63 sb <35 IU/mL

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> Not normal.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> > Oct Creatinine 1
> > >> > April results not in yet

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> > October TSH 2.1
> > >> > April TSH 9 (low end--especially for me)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> > Better. 🙂

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >> This is actually not good. It means you are starting to be more
> > >> hypothyroid. This may explain some of your increased insulin
> > >> resistance. Would suggest you seek a referral to consult with an
> > >> endocrinologist about possibly increasing you on thyroid replacement
> > >> hormone therapy.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> <snip>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > Hey, ass-chung,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > Are you licensed to practise medicine online? Does the AMA approve of
> > > this? Can you make legally medical diagnoses in newsgroups? Idiot.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > I don't know what your problem is, but seeking a referral to an endo would
> > seem very appropriate to me.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> The problem is that satan remains angry about the eternal defeat my
> LORD has handed to him.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quit blaming poor Satan.

Quoted message said:

Your deteriorating reading comprehension does not bode well.

Quoted message said:

May GOD keep your heart beating long enough for you to get this
checked out.

Those tallow candles on your basement altar -- are they goat tallow,
or baby human tallow?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Chung's ear wax: it's so easy to dip the wicks in one side and pull
them out the other, fully coated.

Why do you ask?

Nico said:

Father Haskell said:

On Apr 26, 9:19 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

convicted neighbot Haskell wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > friend ray wrote:
> > > satan, via a sockpuppet (demon), wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > >> Nancy wrote:
> > > >> > Hello all-

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> > <big vent>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> > After fighting my HMO over my eating problems for over a year and a half, and
> > > >> > totally loosing, I am now a frank diabetic. GD KAISER!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> > It's like they set me up from day one to fail, so they can put me on medications
> > > >> > and be done with me. sxxx heads

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> > I can't tell you how hard it is to write this. Maybe if I show my labs (which
> > > >> > takes time to cut and paste, I'll stop crying)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> > October HBA1C 5.3
> > > >> > April 5.4

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> Optimal is 4.7 or less.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> > Lipid Panels
> > > >> > October Cholesterol 192
> > > >> > April Cholesterol 169

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> Optimal.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> > October Tri 143
> > > >> > April Tri 232

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> Optimal is less than 150 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> > October HDL 50
> > > >> > April HDL 50

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> Optimal is more than 50 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> > Oct LDL calculated 113
> > > >> > April LDL calculated 73

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> Optimal.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> > October GLU fasting 114 (guesstimate, because it isn't in my chart, they are
> > > >> > still working on this electronic system)
> > > >> > April Glucose fasting 127

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> Optimal is less than 100 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> > no Oct test done
> > > >> > April TPO (thyroid antibodies) 63 sb <35 IU/mL

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> Not normal.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> > Oct Creatinine 1
> > > >> > April results not in yet

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> > October TSH 2.1
> > > >> > April TSH 9 (low end--especially for me)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> > Better. 🙂

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > >> This is actually not good. It means you are starting to be more
> > > >> hypothyroid. This may explain some of your increased insulin
> > > >> resistance. Would suggest you seek a referral to consult with an
> > > >> endocrinologist about possibly increasing you on thyroid replacement
> > > >> hormone therapy.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > <snip>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > > Hey, ass-chung,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > > Are you licensed to practise medicine online? Does the AMA approve of
> > > > this? Can you make legally medical diagnoses in newsgroups? Idiot.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > > I don't know what your problem is, but seeking a referral to an endo would
> > > seem very appropriate to me.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > The problem is that satan remains angry about the eternal defeat my
> > LORD has handed to him.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Quit blaming poor Satan.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Your deteriorating reading comprehension does not bode well.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

May GOD keep your heart beating long enough for you to get this
checked out.

Quoted message said:

Those tallow candles on your basement altar -- are they goat tallow,
or baby human tallow?- Hide quoted text -

Quoted message said:

- Show quoted text -

Chung's ear wax: it's so easy to dip the wicks in one side and pull
them out the other, fully coated.

Why do you ask?

Satan wanted to know, and me being in PR and all, I thought I'd ask.

convicted neighbor Haskell said:

Andrew said:

convicted neighbot Haskell said:

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> friend ray wrote:
> > satan, via a sockpuppet (demon), wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >> Nancy wrote:
> > >> > Hello all-

Quoted message said:

> > >> > <big vent>

Quoted message said:

> > >> > After fighting my HMO over my eating problems for over a year and a half, and
> > >> > totally loosing, I am now a frank diabetic. GD KAISER!

Quoted message said:

> > >> > It's like they set me up from day one to fail, so they can put me on medications
> > >> > and be done with me. sxxx heads

Quoted message said:

> > >> > I can't tell you how hard it is to write this. Maybe if I show my labs (which
> > >> > takes time to cut and paste, I'll stop crying)

Quoted message said:

> > >> > October HBA1C 5.3
> > >> > April 5.4

Quoted message said:

> > >> Optimal is 4.7 or less.

Quoted message said:

> > >> > Lipid Panels
> > >> > October Cholesterol 192
> > >> > April Cholesterol 169

Quoted message said:

> > >> Optimal.

Quoted message said:

> > >> > October Tri 143
> > >> > April Tri 232

Quoted message said:

> > >> Optimal is less than 150 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

> > >> > October HDL 50
> > >> > April HDL 50

Quoted message said:

> > >> Optimal is more than 50 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

> > >> > Oct LDL calculated 113
> > >> > April LDL calculated 73

Quoted message said:

> > >> Optimal.

Quoted message said:

> > >> > October GLU fasting 114 (guesstimate, because it isn't in my chart, they are
> > >> > still working on this electronic system)
> > >> > April Glucose fasting 127

Quoted message said:

> > >> Optimal is less than 100 mg/dl.

Quoted message said:

> > >> > no Oct test done
> > >> > April TPO (thyroid antibodies) 63 sb <35 IU/mL

Quoted message said:

> > >> Not normal.

Quoted message said:

> > >> > Oct Creatinine 1
> > >> > April results not in yet

Quoted message said:

> > >> > October TSH 2.1
> > >> > April TSH 9 (low end--especially for me)

Quoted message said:

> > >> > Better. 🙂

Quoted message said:

> > >> This is actually not good. It means you are starting to be more
> > >> hypothyroid. This may explain some of your increased insulin
> > >> resistance. Would suggest you seek a referral to consult with an
> > >> endocrinologist about possibly increasing you on thyroid replacement
> > >> hormone therapy.

Quoted message said:

> <snip>

Quoted message said:

> > > Hey, ass-chung,

Quoted message said:

> > > Are you licensed to practise medicine online? Does the AMA approve of
> > > this? Can you make legally medical diagnoses in newsgroups? Idiot.

Quoted message said:

> > I don't know what your problem is, but seeking a referral to an endo would
> > seem very appropriate to me.

Quoted message said:

> The problem is that satan remains angry about the eternal defeat my
> LORD has handed to him.

Quoted message said:

Quit blaming poor Satan.

Your deteriorating reading comprehension does not bode well.

May GOD keep your heart beating long enough for you to get this
checked out.

Those tallow candles on your basement altar

Your visual hallucinations do not bode well either.

Quoted message said:

-- are they goat tallow, or baby human tallow?

They are what you are hallucinating.

Would continue to suggest you ask your doctor(s) to order a contrast-
enhanced MRI if you have not already.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

convicted neighbor Don Kirkman said:

satan via a sockpuppet (demon) wrote:

[. . .]

Quoted message said:

Hey Chung, according to Merriam-Webster, the English abbreviation for
"pound" is not PD - it's Lb (Capital L + lower case b). The abbreviation
Pd (Capital P + lower case d) is for "paid." Basically you're calling
your diet the 2PAID-OMER Diet.

No, historically it began as the Two Pound Diet

Incorrect.

It started as the 2 Pound Diet Approach with my own patients.

Others chose to shorten the name to the catchier 2 Pound Diet or 2PD.

OMER is an acronym that stands for Original Method of Eating Reduction
while also serving to remind us about the Biblical concept of omer,
which teaches us that there is one right amount of food for all
(Exodus 16:16).

Those who are truly interested in this discussion about the 2PD-OMER
Approach may certainly read about it here:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

Bottomline:

You remain untruthful.

The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor
infallible...

.... we are simply forgiven:

http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/

May you wisely choose to be forgiven too by publicly declaring with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Andrew B. Chung said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hey Chung, according to Merriam-Webster, the English abbreviation
for "pound" is not PD - it's Lb (Capital L + lower case b). The
abbreviation Pd (Capital P + lower case d) is for "paid." Basically
you're calling your diet the 2PAID-OMER Diet.

No, historically it began as the Two Pound Diet

Incorrect.

It started as the 2 Pound Diet Approach with my own patients.

Others chose to shorten the name to the catchier 2 Pound Diet or 2PD.

OMER is an acronym that stands for Original Method of Eating Reduction
while also serving to remind us about the Biblical concept of omer,
which teaches us that there is one right amount of food for all
(Exodus 16:16).

Those who are truly interested in this discussion about the 2PD-OMER
Approach may certainly read about it here:

So you think I'll be lean and healthy if I eat two pounds of lard or two
pounds of sugar each day, huh.

purpurroterwald said:

Andrew B. Chung said:

Quoted message said:

>Hey Chung, according to Merriam-Webster, the English abbreviation
>for "pound" is not PD - it's Lb (Capital L + lower case b). The
>abbreviation Pd (Capital P + lower case d) is for "paid." Basically
>you're calling your diet the 2PAID-OMER Diet.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

No, historically it began as the Two Pound Diet

Quoted message said:

Incorrect.

Quoted message said:

It started as the 2 Pound Diet Approach with my own patients.

Quoted message said:

Others chose to shorten the name to the catchier 2 Pound Diet or 2PD.

Quoted message said:

OMER is an acronym that stands for Original Method of Eating Reduction
while also serving to remind us about the Biblical concept of omer,
which teaches us that there is one right amount of food for all
(Exodus 16:16).

Quoted message said:

Those who are truly interested in this discussion about the 2PD-OMER
Approach may certainly read about it here:

So you think I'll be lean and healthy if I eat two pounds of lard or two
pounds of sugar each day, huh.

That's the 2PD-TWINKIE diet -- whipped lard and sugar being the
original
filling recipe -- and Chunkers says yes! Chunkers also says you can
either eat the whole Twinkie, or just suck out the filling, doesn't
matter
so long as you eat 2 pounds/day. Not one ounce less.