Refrigerator space

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Michael said:

I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some of
the following would be fine stored at room temperature....

all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar also)

fish sauce?
lemon juice?
soy sauce?

how about...
worcestershire?
franks hot sauce?

thanks.

I never refrigerate Vinegar and never have, and lately, I've stopped
refrigerating soy and oyster sauce. No problems.

Have not tried taking the Worcestershire out yet. I don't use it often.

I'd leave in the lemon juice.

Get a bigger 'frige? <G>
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Michael said:

I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some of
the following would be fine stored at room temperature....
[snip list]

The only thing on your list that I do not store at room temp is lemon
juice. When I have too much of that (I have a lemon tree) I freeze
it in ice cube trays and store in the freezer.

On the other hand,I haven't looked on all those bottles / jars to find
the recommended storage place. -aem

Michael said:

I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some of
the following would be fine stored at room temperature....

all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar also)

fish sauce?
lemon juice?
soy sauce?

how about...
worcestershire?
franks hot sauce?

Michael:

Vinegar is the only thing I would not store in the refrigerator.
Some of the other things may be safe but I believe they lose quality
faster at room temperature.

I have noticed that hot sauce, once opened, loses heat fairly rapidly.

gloria p

Michael said:

I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that
some of the following would be fine stored at room temperature....

all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar
also)
fish sauce?
lemon juice?
soy sauce?

how about...
worcestershire?
franks hot sauce?

Lemon juice, soy sauce and worcestershire sauce Ok. I don't know about the
rest🙂

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:43:35 -0400, "Michael" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some of
the following would be fine stored at room temperature....

all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar also)

fish sauce?
lemon juice?
soy sauce?

how about...
worcestershire?
franks hot sauce?

thanks.

i'd say everything but the lemon juice, unless it's the real lemon
[censored]. i've never heard of problems with vinegar or worcestershire.
might want to keep frank's in the dark, though.

here's a site for chinese sauce storage questions:

<http://chinesefood.about.com/od/sauces/f/storesauce.htm>

she's reasonably knowledgeable about chinese stuff.

oops, she says fish sauce goes in the fridge. no wonder mine smells
like fish. oyster sauce in the fridge also.

your pal,
blake

Omelet <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Michael said:

I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that
some of the following would be fine stored at room temperature....

all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar
also)

fish sauce?
lemon juice?
soy sauce?

how about...
worcestershire?
franks hot sauce?

thanks.

I never refrigerate Vinegar and never have, and lately, I've stopped
refrigerating soy and oyster sauce. No problems.

Have not tried taking the Worcestershire out yet. I don't use it
often.

I've *never* refrigerated my Worcestershire. It lives it's life in the
pantry.

Quoted message said:

I'd leave in the lemon juice.

If it's bottled lemon juice, it can go in the pantry too. Rule of thumb
is, if you buy it from the fridge section of the superm,arket, it has to
stay in the fridge. If you get it off the shelf, it can live in the
pantry.

*Unless* of course, it says "Refrigerate after opening" on the bottle.

Quoted message said:

Get a bigger 'frige? <G>

I have a 500lt and it seems the more room you have, the more you put in
there!!

--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"People sleep safely in their beds because rough men stand ready in
the night to do violence to those who would do them harm"
-- George Orwell

Michael said:

I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some of
the following would be fine stored at room temperature....

all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar also)

fish sauce?
lemon juice?
soy sauce?

how about...
worcestershire?
franks hot sauce?

The only one of those I've ever kept in the fridge is the lemon juice.
The rest do fine at room temp, especially the salty ones. The hot sauce
might discolor a bit over time, but maybe it does that in the fridge
too? I dunno..?

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Goomba38 said:

Quoted message said:

franks hot sauce?

Quoted message said:

The rest do fine at room temp, especially the salty ones. The hot sauce
might discolor a bit over time, but maybe it does that in the fridge
too? I dunno..?

Not only does hot sauce lose its color, but also its flavor and heat.
There are three solutions to this:

1. Keep it in the fridge (my daughter, and her quart hot sauce).
2. Buy little bottles (my solution).
3. Just live with it (my wife, who doesn't use it).

Goomba38 said:

Michael said:

I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some of
the following would be fine stored at room temperature....

Quoted message said:

all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar also)

Quoted message said:

fish sauce?
lemon juice?
soy sauce?

Quoted message said:

how about...
worcestershire?
franks hot sauce?

The only one of those I've ever kept in the fridge is the lemon juice.

I can't believe so many actually buy bottled lemon juice... I tried it
once, eons and eons ago, like when I was maybe 14 years old (actually
my mother bought it to try, it got stored in the trash. WTF is so
difficult about buying a couple of fresh lemons... I buy fresh lemons
and fresh limes every shopping. They're not that expensive, I think
they actually cost less than the bottled [censored]. Last shopping I bought
three nice big fat fresh Sunkist lemons for 59 cents each, and limes
were ten in a bag, they were kind of small but cost only $1.99 for the
lot, I got two bags... they go quick in mixed drinks, but mostly my
lettuces are coming in from my garden so I prepare huge amounts of
salad... I like to sprinkle the salads with citrus, it stays fresh
twice as long in the fridge. I really can't believe that so many use
that sour [censored] in a bottle.

Sheldon

Michael said:

I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some of
the following would be fine stored at room temperature....

all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar also)

fish sauce?
lemon juice?
soy sauce?

how about...
worcestershire?
franks hot sauce?

How much room do you think you'll actually gain by removing six skinny
bottles... you're kidding of course, you gotta be.

Sheldon Twofridge

Sheldon said:

Goomba38 said:

Michael said:

I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that
some of the following would be fine stored at room temperature....

Quoted message said:

all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice
vinegar also)

Quoted message said:

fish sauce?
lemon juice?
soy sauce?

Quoted message said:

how about...
worcestershire?
franks hot sauce?

The only one of those I've ever kept in the fridge is the lemon
juice.

I can't believe so many actually buy bottled lemon juice... I tried it
once, eons and eons ago, like when I was maybe 14 years old (actually
my mother bought it to try, it got stored in the trash. WTF is so
difficult about buying a couple of fresh lemons... I buy fresh lemons
and fresh limes every shopping. They're not that expensive, I think
they actually cost less than the bottled [censored]. Last shopping I bought
three nice big fat fresh Sunkist lemons for 59 cents each, and limes
were ten in a bag, they were kind of small but cost only $1.99 for the
lot, I got two bags... they go quick in mixed drinks, but mostly my
lettuces are coming in from my garden so I prepare huge amounts of
salad... I like to sprinkle the salads with citrus, it stays fresh
twice as long in the fridge. I really can't believe that so many use
that sour [censored] in a bottle.

Sheldon

I usually try to buy fresh lemons, but my husband always uses them up for
his tea before I realize they're gone. I have the bottled stuff in the
fridge for emergency uses. It works in a pinch.

kili

Sheldon said:

I can't believe so many actually buy bottled lemon juice... I tried it
once, eons and eons ago, like when I was maybe 14 years old (actually
my mother bought it to try, it got stored in the trash. WTF is so
difficult about buying a couple of fresh lemons... I buy fresh lemons
and fresh limes every shopping. They're not that expensive, I think
they actually cost less than the bottled [censored]. Last shopping I bought
three nice big fat fresh Sunkist lemons for 59 cents each, and limes
were ten in a bag, they were kind of small but cost only $1.99 for the
lot, I got two bags... they go quick in mixed drinks, but mostly my
lettuces are coming in from my garden so I prepare huge amounts of
salad... I like to sprinkle the salads with citrus, it stays fresh
twice as long in the fridge. I really can't believe that so many use
that sour [censored] in a bottle.

Sheldon

We're not talking that old bottle of "Real Lemon" you might have tried
in your youth, Shel. Perhaps that stuff was pasteurized or something
which could explain why it is so nasty?
Minute Maid now sells an incredibly good quality lemon juice in the
frozen section, which when thawed and kept in the frige a couple of
weeks is an excellent alternative to fresh squeezed juice.

Goomba38 said:

Sheldon said:

I can't believe so many actually buy bottled lemon juice... I tried
it once, eons and eons ago, like when I was maybe 14 years old
(actually my mother bought it to try, it got stored in the trash.
WTF is so difficult about buying a couple of fresh lemons... I buy
fresh lemons and fresh limes every shopping. They're not that
expensive, I think they actually cost less than the bottled [censored].
Last shopping I bought three nice big fat fresh Sunkist lemons for
59 cents each, and limes were ten in a bag, they were kind of small
but cost only $1.99 for the lot, I got two bags... they go quick in
mixed drinks, but mostly my lettuces are coming in from my garden so
I prepare huge amounts of salad... I like to sprinkle the salads
with citrus, it stays fresh twice as long in the fridge. I really
can't believe that so many use that sour [censored] in a bottle.

Sheldon

We're not talking that old bottle of "Real Lemon" you might have tried
in your youth, Shel. Perhaps that stuff was pasteurized or something
which could explain why it is so nasty?
Minute Maid now sells an incredibly good quality lemon juice in the
frozen section, which when thawed and kept in the frige a couple of
weeks is an excellent alternative to fresh squeezed juice.

That's what I use, Goomba! I keep it around for those times I go, "duh"
(slapping forehead), I'm out of lemons! It works great.

kili

Goomba38 said:

Sheldon said:

I can't believe so many actually buy bottled lemon juice... I tried it
once, eons and eons ago, like when I was maybe 14 years old (actually
my mother bought it to try, it got stored in the trash. WTF is so
difficult about buying a couple of fresh lemons... I buy fresh lemons
and fresh limes every shopping. They're not that expensive, I think
they actually cost less than the bottled [censored]. Last shopping I bought
three nice big fat fresh Sunkist lemons for 59 cents each, and limes
were ten in a bag, they were kind of small but cost only $1.99 for the
lot, I got two bags... they go quick in mixed drinks, but mostly my
lettuces are coming in from my garden so I prepare huge amounts of
salad... I like to sprinkle the salads with citrus, it stays fresh
twice as long in the fridge. I really can't believe that so many use
that sour [censored] in a bottle.

Quoted message said:

Sheldon

We're not talking that old bottle of "Real Lemon" you might have tried
in your youth, Shel. Perhaps that stuff was pasteurized or something
which could explain why it is so nasty?
Minute Maid now sells an incredibly good quality lemon juice in the
frozen section, which when thawed and kept in the frige a couple of
weeks is an excellent alternative to fresh squeezed juice.

I somehow doubt frozen lemon juice tastes like fresh lemon. Even
fresh lemon once cut, carefully wrapped in plastic and placed in the
fridge tastes off the next day. A half a cut lemon will work the next
day in a salad dressing but not in a cocktail. Once citrus is cut it
begins to develop a bitterness. There's a reason that no packaged
orange juice can compare with fresh squeezed... people who regularly
drink OJ from those containers (even if not from concentrate) wouldn't
know. Packaged OJ is never from just one kind of orange anyway, it's
always a blend, that's why they all taste pretty much alike

Sheldon

Sheldon said:

Quoted message said:

We're not talking that old bottle of "Real Lemon" you might have tried
in your youth, Shel. Perhaps that stuff was pasteurized or something
which could explain why it is so nasty?
Minute Maid now sells an incredibly good quality lemon juice in the
frozen section, which when thawed and kept in the frige a couple of
weeks is an excellent alternative to fresh squeezed juice.

I somehow doubt frozen lemon juice tastes like fresh lemon. Even
fresh lemon once cut, carefully wrapped in plastic and placed in the
fridge tastes off the next day.

Sheldon, try it just once. It really isn't bad at all. I use it to make
lemonade with (using splenda as sweetener) to mix with my iced tea when
I want "Sunshine Tea" which is half lemonade-half iced tea. Sometimes
lemons *are* outrageously expensive and this frozen juice works very
nicely. I keep fresh lemons just as often, but I see the value in both
products. Try some!

Goomba38 said:

Sheldon said:

Quoted message said:

We're not talking that old bottle of "Real Lemon" you might have tried
in your youth, Shel. Perhaps that stuff was pasteurized or something
which could explain why it is so nasty?
Minute Maid now sells an incredibly good quality lemon juice in the
frozen section, which when thawed and kept in the frige a couple of
weeks is an excellent alternative to fresh squeezed juice.

Quoted message said:

I somehow doubt frozen lemon juice tastes like fresh lemon. Even
fresh lemon once cut, carefully wrapped in plastic and placed in the
fridge tastes off the next day.

Sheldon, try it just once. It really isn't bad at all.

Probably isn't bad but I doubt it's good.

I use it to make

Quoted message said:

lemonade with (using splenda as sweetener) to mix with my iced tea when
I want "Sunshine Tea" which is half lemonade-half iced tea. Sometimes
lemons *are* outrageously expensive

I don't remember seeing lemons outrageously expensive since I was a
kid and everything shipped from outside the country cost an arm and a
leg... back then only NY was America, evywhere else was a bunch of
stinkin' feriners, still are if you ask me... lemons still don't grow
in NY but now they must email them in as an attachment to keep the
transportation costs down. So how much is outrageously expensive? I
think everything these days is outrageously expensive, but a person's
gotta live a little too. When I was a kid lemons cost like 5 cents
each and we thought they were a luxury. These days I think the price
of potatoes is highway robbery... who woulda thunk that what I
remember costing 2 cents a pound would now cost better than 50 cents a
pound, and potatoes are not nearly as good anymore. I remember a loaf
of *real* rye bread from a *real* bakery costing a dime... now there's
no decent rye bread at any price, and no more real bakeries, none!

Quoted message said:

and this frozen juice works very
nicely. I keep fresh lemons just as often, but I see the value in both
products. Try some!

Thank you but no thank you... lemons, even though they're small, I
like mine natural, I still gotta feel it and smell it. Fresh lemons
are perfectly packaged in the perfect size, never any waste.... even
the natural packaging is useful in oh so many ways. I just know I
will never finish that entire can of frozen lemon glop, it'll probably
turn out outrageously expensive and extremely disappointing. To be
perfectly honest I'd be very embarrassed to serve my guests a wedge of
frozen lemon snot, obviously a commercial product, which is why
everything lemon you buy ready made tastes medicinal. Maybe your
taster is you know where but no way in you know where is frozen
anything gonna taste the same as fresh. And a large part of lemon
appeal is in the visual (can't garnish with frozen lemon s lime)....
sometimes a man just wants to look in the glass and contemplate a
twist. Padded bras were bad enough but now they're fine next to
sillycone... I'd much rather fondle a pair of natural lemons warm from
the sun than gallon jugs colder than a witch's [censored]

Sheldon

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PeterLucas said:

Omelet <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Michael said:

I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that
some of the following would be fine stored at room temperature....

all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar
also)

fish sauce?
lemon juice?
soy sauce?

how about...
worcestershire?
franks hot sauce?

thanks.

I never refrigerate Vinegar and never have, and lately, I've stopped
refrigerating soy and oyster sauce. No problems.

Have not tried taking the Worcestershire out yet. I don't use it
often.

I've *never* refrigerated my Worcestershire. It lives it's life in the
pantry.

Cool. I was not sure as like I said, I don't use it much.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'd leave in the lemon juice.

If it's bottled lemon juice, it can go in the pantry too. Rule of thumb
is, if you buy it from the fridge section of the superm,arket, it has to
stay in the fridge. If you get it off the shelf, it can live in the
pantry.

*Unless* of course, it says "Refrigerate after opening" on the bottle.

Which "Real Lemon" does.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Get a bigger 'frige? <G>

I have a 500lt and it seems the more room you have, the more you put in
there!!

My Hobart on the back porch is 40 cubic ft. plus we have a "normal" one
in the kitchen. I consider myself lucky to have "adequate" frige space,
even tho' the Hobart has cost me about 1/2 of it's value to maintain. I
had to replace the bloody compressor for $1,100. :-P

Thank the gods for Visa.
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Peace, Om

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Sheldon said:

Goomba38 said:

Michael said:

I'd like to make some room in my 'frig and it would seem to me that some
of
the following would be fine stored at room temperature....

Quoted message said:

all vinegars? ( I have the basic ones plus balsamic and rice vinegar
also)

Quoted message said:

fish sauce?
lemon juice?
soy sauce?

Quoted message said:

how about...
worcestershire?
franks hot sauce?

The only one of those I've ever kept in the fridge is the lemon juice.

I can't believe so many actually buy bottled lemon juice... I tried it
once, eons and eons ago, like when I was maybe 14 years old (actually
my mother bought it to try, it got stored in the trash. WTF is so
difficult about buying a couple of fresh lemons... I buy fresh lemons
and fresh limes every shopping. They're not that expensive, I think
they actually cost less than the bottled [censored]. Last shopping I bought
three nice big fat fresh Sunkist lemons for 59 cents each, and limes
were ten in a bag, they were kind of small but cost only $1.99 for the
lot, I got two bags... they go quick in mixed drinks, but mostly my
lettuces are coming in from my garden so I prepare huge amounts of
salad... I like to sprinkle the salads with citrus, it stays fresh
twice as long in the fridge. I really can't believe that so many use
that sour [censored] in a bottle.

Sheldon

I think that bottled lemon juice is disgusting and does not even taste
like Lemon. Real fresh lemons are not that expensive.

But, we do have a couple of them in the 'frige because dad buys them.

But he gets to use them. I won't!
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Dan Abel said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Goomba38 said:

Quoted message said:

franks hot sauce?

Quoted message said:

The rest do fine at room temp, especially the salty ones. The hot sauce
might discolor a bit over time, but maybe it does that in the fridge
too? I dunno..?

Not only does hot sauce lose its color, but also its flavor and heat.
There are three solutions to this:

1. Keep it in the fridge (my daughter, and her quart hot sauce).
2. Buy little bottles (my solution).
3. Just live with it (my wife, who doesn't use it).

those of you who remember jack schidt (he of the many last names) may
remember when he posted a picture of a gallon bottle of tabasco. i
think he treated it as an objet d'art.

god, i miss him.

your pal,
blake