A Visit to Dr. Chung's Office

Hey Steve,

What's your problem? What are you busting Dr Chung's Chops for? He's a practicing Cardiologist. Why
are you throwing up his Christianity. All I've ever read is his medical opinions and most have
sounded logical. I don't know if Dr. Chung is a Born Again Christian. It doesn't matter. You seem to
know that he is and you don't seem to like it. What is it that Dr Chung has done to you to get your
cookies in an uproar? Even an Athist can respect another man's beliefs. I think your sarcasm was
unwarranted.

Thomas Payne Lakeland, Florida

"Steve" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
: A Visit to Dr. Chung's Office
: -----------------------------
:
: Patient: Hello, I'm here to see Dr. Chung.
:
: Recept : Please have a seat.
:
: (later) Recept : Dr. Chung will see you now. (enters office)
:
: Chung : Good Morning! How may I help you?
:
: Patient: Good Morning, Doctor. I have been having a pain in my chest that comes and goes. I'm
: frankly a little concerned that it might signal a heart problem.
:
: Chung : Hmm. I see. Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?
:
: Patient: (taken aback) Well, ah, that is kind of personal and I don't see how that has anything to
: do with my chest pains.
:
: Chung : The untruthful often feign lack of understanding.
:
: Patient: Now just a minute! Are you calling me a liar?
:
: Chung : I didn't say "liar".
:
: Patient: Well you certainly implied it.
:
: Chung : Is it your claim that you can see into my heart?
:
: Patient: Well, but, but, ...
:
: Chung : Why do you hate Jesus Christ:
:
: Patient: I don't hate Jesus Christ!!!
:
: Chung : Truth is often painful to the untruthful.
:
: Patient: Are you saying you think the pain in my chest could have something to do with religion?
:
: Chung : I have the gift of Truth Discernment.
:
: Patient: Please stop talking in riddles! I hate riddles! I'm just looking for some help here!
:
: Chung : Why do you hate me?
:
: Patient: I don't hate you!!! Your are twisting everything around!
:
: Chung : Is it your claim that I am twisted? see
:
: http: //heartmdphd/libel.asp.
:
: Patient: Look, I think this interview is concluded.
:
: Chung : You have my pity. I will pray for you. Please pay at the front desk.
:
: Recept : (on the intercom) Dr. Chung, a Mr. Mu is here to see you. He says you agreed to
: buy lunch.
:
: Chung: The untruthful often try to get others to buy lunch.
:
: --
: "Beware of practicing your piety before men in order to be seen by them; for then you will have no
: reward from your Father who is in heaven." (Mat 6:1)
:
: Steve
:

Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

A Visit to Dr. Chung's Office
-----------------------------

Patient: Hello, I'm here to see Dr. Chung.

Recept : Please have a seat.

(later) Recept : Dr. Chung will see you now. (enters office)

Chung : Good Morning! How may I help you?

Patient: Good Morning, Doctor. I have been having a pain in my chest that comes and goes. I'm
frankly a little concerned that it might signal a heart problem.

Chung : Hmm. I see. Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?

The above response would be your fanciful imagination.

In truth, my response would be:

Ok, please lay down here on the exam table while I do a quick EKG and check your vital signs. While
I am doing that, please tell me your story without sparing the details.

Truth is powerful.

Humble servant of Christ,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:01:29 -0500, Thomas Payne wrote
(in message <[email hidden]>😉:

Quoted message said:

Hey Steve,

What's your problem? What are you busting Dr Chung's Chops for? He's a practicing Cardiologist.
Why are you throwing up his Christianity. All I've ever read is his medical opinions and most have
sounded logical. I don't know if Dr. Chung is a Born Again Christian. It doesn't matter. You seem
to know that he is and you don't seem to like it. What is it that Dr Chung has done to you to get
your cookies in an uproar? Even an Athist can respect another man's beliefs. I think your sarcasm
was unwarranted.

Hey, Thomas. How long have you been reading this group? Do you know how to use google groups? Try
doing a search on Chung and, say, the word "untruth" or "untruthful". I agree the scenario described
is wacko, but how would you describe this actual exchange:

Balsey: I have just come home from 3 weeks in hospital was waiting for results of angiogram... I
have had the new Texus stent in the left arterery which was 98% blocked... so that gives me 4 stents
. I am a little worried with all this what are your thoughts on so many stents , I thought you could
only have 3 all up.

Chung: According to your Google history, you appear to have an anti-Christian bias. Is this true?
Even if you are anti-Christian, I would still be inclined to try to help you (sic!). However, the
quality of that help will depend on your being forthcoming with the pertinent issues in your
condition.

I have snipped liberally for brevity, since the actual thread is quite long. Chung _did_ provide
advice, and the snipping is not intended to obscure that, but simply to illustrate the inappropriate
interjection of religion which is the point at issue (not to mention doing a 'background check' on
someone who asks a question here).

The full thread can be viewed at:

google.comgroupsOpen ↗
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e.com&rnum=2&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dgroup:sci.med.cardiology%2Binsubject:ste nts%2Bauthor:chung%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-
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sting.google.com%26rnum%3D2

--
"Beware of practicing your piety before men in order to be seen by them; for then you will have no
reward from your Father who is in heaven." (Mat 6:1)

Steve

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:35:47 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in message <[email hidden]>😉:

Quoted message said:

Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

A Visit to Dr. Chung's Office
-----------------------------

Patient: Hello, I'm here to see Dr. Chung.

Recept : Please have a seat.

(later) Recept : Dr. Chung will see you now. (enters office)

Chung : Good Morning! How may I help you?

Patient: Good Morning, Doctor. I have been having a pain in my chest that comes and goes. I'm
frankly a little concerned that it might signal a heart problem.

Chung : Hmm. I see. Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?

The above response would be your fanciful imagination.

Oh, really?

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In truth, my response would be:

Ok, please lay down here on the exam table while I do a quick EKG and check your vital signs.
While I am doing that, please tell me your story without sparing the details.

And, Humble Servant, what would your response be to Balsey when she asked about stents? Let me
refresh your memory:

Quoted message said:

According to your Google history, you appear to have an anti-Christian bias. Is this true?

[snip]

Even if you are anti-Christian, I would still be inclined to try to help you. However, the quality
of that help will depend on your being forthcoming with the pertinent issues in your condition.

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Quoted message said:

Truth is powerful.

You took the words right out of my mouth... and I took them right out of yours.

--
"Beware of practicing your piety before men in order to be seen by them; for then you will have no
reward from your Father who is in heaven." (Mat 6:1)

Steve

Puncturing Chung's "truth balloons" since 2003.

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
: Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...
: > A Visit to Dr. Chung's Office
: > -----------------------------
: >
: > Patient: Hello, I'm here to see Dr. Chung.
: >
: > Recept : Please have a seat.
: >
: > (later) Recept : Dr. Chung will see you now. (enters office)
: >
: > Chung : Good Morning! How may I help you?
: >
: > Patient: Good Morning, Doctor. I have been having a pain in my chest that comes and goes. I'm
: > frankly a little concerned that it might signal a heart problem.
: >
: > Chung : Hmm. I see. Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?
:
: The above response would be your fanciful imagination.
:
: In truth, my response would be:
:
: Ok, please lay down here on the exam table while I do a quick EKG and check your vital signs.
: While I am doing that, please tell me your story without sparing the details.
:

So you would order an ECG on the first visit before taking any other vitals?

Thomas Payne said:

Hey Steve,

What's your problem? What are you busting Dr Chung's Chops for? He's a practicing Cardiologist.
Why are you throwing up his Christianity. All I've ever read is his medical opinions and most have
sounded logical. I don't know if Dr. Chung is a Born Again Christian. It doesn't matter. You seem
to know that he is and you don't seem to like it. What is it that Dr Chung has done to you to get
your cookies in an uproar? Even an Athist can respect another man's beliefs. I think your sarcasm
was unwarranted.

Thomas Payne Lakeland, Florida

Thank you for your comments, Thomas.

"Steve" appears to possess an obsessive hatred for christians. He seems to not be able to get past
this. It does appear to be becoming a pathological obsession for him as has happened to Pastorio.

He (and Pastorio) remains in my prayers that God will cure them of their disease.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:35:47 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote (in message
<[email hidden]>😉:

Quoted message said:

Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

A Visit to Dr. Chung's Office
-----------------------------

Patient: Hello, I'm here to see Dr. Chung.

Recept : Please have a seat.

(later) Recept : Dr. Chung will see you now. (enters office)

Chung : Good Morning! How may I help you?

Patient: Good Morning, Doctor. I have been having a pain in my chest that comes and goes. I'm
frankly a little concerned that it might signal a heart problem.

Chung : Hmm. I see. Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?

The above response would be your fanciful imagination.

Oh, really?

Yes.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In truth, my response would be:

Ok, please lay down here on the exam table while I do a quick EKG and check your vital signs.
While I am doing that, please tell me your story without sparing the details.

And, Humble Servant, what would your response be to Balsey when she asked about stents?

If Balsey were a patient, it would have been the same as above.

Quoted message said:

Let me refresh your memory:

Quoted message said:

According to your Google history, you appear to have an anti-Christian bias. Is this true?

Couple of truthful points:

(1) Balsey is not and has not been a patient of mine. However, I would welcome the opportunity to
help Balsey in my capacity as a cardiologist helping a patient if it were the Lord's will.

(2) My response as you have quoted is appropriate for Balsey's post which started with:

"Hi every body , please only answer if you can help all you others [ mahara chung] go away ..."

Please note the "chung] go away"

For a direct cite, please see:

tinyurl.com32buzOpen ↗

Truth looks even better when archived.

It is ironic that though your intent appears to be to mock, libel, and defame, you have achieved the
exact opposite. For this I am grateful to you, though I have more gratitude for my Lord who clearly
has had a hand in this. He is that powerful.

Humble servant of Christ wishing his Lord a happy birthday :-)

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:06:26 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in message <[email hidden]>😉:

Quoted message said:

"Steve" appears to possess an obsessive hatred for christians. He seems to not be able to get
past this.

Perhaps you could cite where I have said something demonstrating that I have an "obsessive hatred
for christians" or, as you have claimed in other posts that I am "anti-christian".

Oh, wait a minute... you didn't say that... you said "appears". You sneaky devil you :-)

OK. Perhaps you could cite where I have said something that "appears" to demonstrate that I have an
"obsessive hatred for christians" or, as you have claimed in other posts that I am "anti-christian".

You "appear" to be confusing your own brand of "Christianity" with the real thing. You "appear" to
be confusing pointing out and spoofing your hypocrisy with an attack on all Christians.

--
"Beware of practicing your piety before men in order to be seen by them; for then you will have no
reward from your Father who is in heaven." (Mat 6:1)

Steve

"Appearing" to puncture Chung's Untruth Balloons since 2003.

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:42:37 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in message <[email hidden]>😉:

Quoted message said:

It is ironic that though your intent appears to be to mock, libel, and defame, you have achieved
the exact opposite. For this I am grateful to you...

Anytime, bud ;-) (Although I must disagree with the "libel and defame" part... if it were my
"intent" to libel you, I assure you I could figure out how to do it). I'll even give you a free pass
on the ususal "reading my mind" debate :-) Merry Christmas :-)

I'm comfortable with the google record as it stands. If you wish to maintain that the phrase "chung]
go away" is a "get out of jail free" card for your subsequent comments, I guess that is for the
reader to decide :-)

Remembering the reason for the google.

--
"Beware of practicing your piety before men in order to be seen by them; for then you will have no
reward from your Father who is in heaven." (Mat 6:1)

Steve

Steve said:

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:06:26 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote (in message
<[email hidden]>😉:

Quoted message said:

"Steve" appears to possess an obsessive hatred for christians. He seems to not be able to get
past this.

Perhaps you could cite where I have said something demonstrating that I have an "obsessive hatred
for christians" or, as you have claimed in other posts that I am "anti-christian".

Oh, wait a minute... you didn't say that... you said "appears". You sneaky devil you :-)

OK. Perhaps you could cite where I have said something that "appears" to demonstrate that I have
an "obsessive hatred for christians" or, as you have claimed in other posts that I am "anti-
christian".

You "appear" to be confusing your own brand of "Christianity" with the real thing. You "appear" to
be confusing pointing out and spoofing your hypocrisy with an attack on all Christians.

Now, c'mon Steve. In Hezekiah, 4:2-5 it says "Whosoever it shall befit thou doest unto the least of
me, thou wilt thy lettuce. And it shall come to pass, punt and kick thy hand will be used for but
one and thy feet for the others unto the fields of lilies and soccer."

That's as good an explanation as any why Chung would "appear" to confuse having people point and
laugh at him, with condemning christianity in general. In case you haven't noticed, whatever Chung
and sock "John" believe is all there is to christianity. Here's what they believe: Point out their
foibles and you point at all christians everywhere and all of christianity. And maybe everyone named
"John." And all bathrooms.

Pastorio

"Jim Horne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
: Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...
: > A Visit to Dr. Chung's Office
: > -----------------------------
: >
: > Patient: Hello, I'm here to see Dr. Chung.
: >
: > Recept : Please have a seat.
: >
: > (later) Recept : Dr. Chung will see you now. (enters office)
: >
: > Chung : Good Morning! How may I help you?
: >
: > Patient: Good Morning, Doctor. I have been having a pain in my chest that comes and goes. I'm
: > frankly a little concerned that it might signal a heart problem.
: >
: > Chung : Hmm. I see. Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?
:
: The above response would be your fanciful imagination.
:
: In truth, my response would be:
:
: Ok, please lay down here on the exam table while I do a quick EKG and check your vital signs.
: While I am doing that, please tell me your story without sparing the details.
:

So you would order an ECG on the first visit before taking any other vitals?

For a patient who is having active chest pains, I would personally do the EKG rather than order it
and wait for it to be done. It is easy to check vitals as the EKG is being done and printed out.
What a doctor may potentially see on the EKG in this setting is as (if not more) important as the
patient's vital signs.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:06:26 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote (in message
<[email hidden]>😉:

Quoted message said:

"Steve" appears to possess an obsessive hatred for christians. He seems to not be able to get
past this.

Perhaps you could cite where I have said something demonstrating that I have an "obsessive hatred
for christians" or, as you have claimed in other posts that I am "anti-christian".

Oh, wait a minute... you didn't say that... you said "appears". You sneaky devil you :-)

OK. Perhaps you could cite where I have said something that "appears" to demonstrate that I have
an "obsessive hatred for christians" or, as you have claimed in other posts that I am "anti-
christian".

Why not start with the first post in the thread? Afterall, it is the one that Mr. Payne responded to
with the observation "...I don't know if Dr. Chung is a Born Again Christian. It doesn't matter. You
seem to know that he is and you don't seem to like it."

Quoted message said:

You "appear" to be confusing your own brand of "Christianity" with the real thing.

There is only one kind of christianity and this is defined by people accepting Jesus Christ as their
Lord and Savior.

Quoted message said:

You "appear" to be confusing pointing out and spoofing your hypocrisy with an attack on all
Christians.

Attacks (including mockery) on a person for his/her acceptance of Christ as Lord and Savior, are
attacks on Christ. Attacks on Christ are attacks on all christians. But this is ok because Christ is
indestructible. Under His wing, we are also indestructible. There is no confusion here. There is
only the truth of pure logic.

Truth is indestructible.

From John 14:

6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except
through me..."

Happy Birthday, Jesus :-)

Humble servant of Christ,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:22:46 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in message <[email hidden]>😉:

Quoted message said:

Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:06:26 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote (in message
<[email hidden]>😉:

Quoted message said:

"Steve" appears to possess an obsessive hatred for christians. He seems to not be able to get
past this.

Perhaps you could cite where I have said something demonstrating that I have an "obsessive hatred
for christians" or, as you have claimed in other posts that I am "anti-christian".

Oh, wait a minute... you didn't say that... you said "appears". You sneaky devil you :-)

OK. Perhaps you could cite where I have said something that "appears" to demonstrate that I have
an "obsessive hatred for christians" or, as you have claimed in other posts that I am "anti-
christian".

Why not start with the first post in the thread? Afterall, it is the one that Mr. Payne responded
to with the observation "...I don't know if Dr. Chung is a Born Again Christian. It doesn't
matter. You seem to know that he is and you don't seem to like it."

And this is your "proof" that I "appear to possess an obsessive hate for christians" ???

The referent of the ultimate "it" in Mr. Payne's post is the clause "Dr. Chung is a Born again
Christian"... that is "(You) don't seem to like that Dr. Chung is a Born again Christian". (Feel
free to jump in here, Mr. Payne if I am misinterpreting what you said).

Let's say, arguendo, that I don't like the fact that Dr. Chung is a Born Again Christian. By what
leap of Chung-logic does "not like that
Dr. Chung is" translate into an "obsessive hatred for" christians?

For the record, I don't care Jack if you are a Born Again Christian, a Born Again Muslim, a Born
Again Jew, or a Born Again Atheist. I just want you to park it in one of the alt.religion groups.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

You "appear" to be confusing your own brand of "Christianity" with the real thing.

There is only one kind of christianity and this is defined by people accepting Jesus Christ as
their Lord and Savior.

Well, I'm sure some of the other Christian sects will be happy to hear that. The Catholic church,
just to mention a tiny little fringe one, has a much more extensive definition... but I digress.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

You "appear" to be confusing pointing out and spoofing your hypocrisy with an attack on all
Christians.

Attacks (including mockery) on a person for his/her acceptance of Christ as Lord and Savior, are
attacks on Christ.

You still don't get it, do you? It's not your acceptance that is the issue here... it's you're
parading it around in inappropriate places and ways.

Quoted message said:

Attacks on Christ are attacks on all christians. But this is ok because Christ is indestructible.
Under His wing, we are also indestructible. There is no confusion here. There is only the truth of
pure logic.

I'll leave this particular "logic" as an exercise for the reader.

Quoted message said:

Truth is indestructible.

From John 14:

6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except
through me..."

From Steve 2003: When thou findest thyself in a hole, stop digging.

Quoted message said:

Happy Birthday, Jesus :-)

And many happy returns :-) I don't hate you :-)

--
"Beware of practicing your piety before men in order to be seen by them; for then you will have no
reward from your Father who is in heaven." (Mat 6:1)

Steve

Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

There is only one kind of christianity and this is defined by people accepting Jesus Christ as
their Lord and Savior.

Sorry that this isn't a truthful statement from Chung. Jesus said what christianity is. Not the
poseurs and preeners like Chung.

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Attacks (including mockery) on a person for his/her acceptance of Christ as Lord and Savior, are
attacks on Christ.

Not really. But attacks on a person for fraudulent and sanctimonious parading of "faith" is mockery
of a person's character flaw; one that Jesus condemned. He said to pray in the closet away from the
eyes of men. Chung parades it around like a flashy new pair of fishnet stockings, stiletto heels and
a bright red feather boa.

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Attacks on Christ are attacks on all christians.

Oh, Puhleeze. That's like when "John" said that pointing out that bathrooms are also called "Johns"
is demeaning to all people named "John." No one is attacking Jesus, only his false prophets and
fraudulent warriors who use Christ as a weapon. Like Chung and "John."

Quoted message said:

But this is ok because Christ is indestructible.

Jesus needs no defense from the likes of Chung.

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Happy Birthday, Jesus :-)

Hilarious. From Chung to his good buddy, Jesus. How sad to see Chung trivialize christianity. And
how sad to see he knows nothing of the real life of Jesus and when it happened. Makes his swaggering
smugness even more poignant.

Pastorio

Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:22:46 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote (in message
<[email hidden]>😉:

Quoted message said:

Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:06:26 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote (in message
<[email hidden]>😉:

> "Steve" appears to possess an obsessive hatred for christians. He seems to not be able to get
> past this.

Perhaps you could cite where I have said something demonstrating that I have an "obsessive
hatred for christians" or, as you have claimed in other posts that I am "anti-christian".

Oh, wait a minute... you didn't say that... you said "appears". You sneaky devil you :-)

OK. Perhaps you could cite where I have said something that "appears" to demonstrate that I
have an "obsessive hatred for christians" or, as you have claimed in other posts that I am "anti-
christian".

Why not start with the first post in the thread? Afterall, it is the one that Mr. Payne
responded to with the observation "...I don't know if Dr. Chung is a Born Again Christian. It
doesn't matter. You seem to know that he is and you don't seem to like it."

And this is your "proof" that I "appear to possess an obsessive hate for christians" ???

Who wrote anything about "proof" ?

Only God has "proof" because only He can look directly into your "heart."

Nonetheless, ask and answered.

Humble servant of Christ,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

Bob Pastorio <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

There is only one kind of christianity and this is defined by people accepting Jesus Christ as
their Lord and Savior.

Sorry

Yes, you are.

Quoted message said:

that this isn't a truthful statement from Chung.

If that were true, it should be easy for you to prove it.

Quoted message said:

Jesus said what christianity is.

Yes, He has.

From John 14:

6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except
through me..."

You remain in my prayers, neighbor.

Humble servant of Christ almighty,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
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[email hidden] (Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD) wrote in message news:<a4b1bd78.0312g

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your hypocrisy with an attack on all Christians.

Attacks (including mockery) on a person for his/her acceptance of Christ as Lord and Savior, are
attacks on Christ. Attacks on Christ are attacks on all christians. But this is ok because Christ
is indestructible. Under His wing, we are also indestructible. There is no confusion here. There
is only the truth of pure logic.

Methinks elementary logic is not one or your strong suits, Mr. MD-Phd.

The sincerity of your acceptance of Christ is what is at issue, not the validity of acceptance of
Christ that comes out of genuine faith. For that acceptance to be more than lip service or a sham
one would need to

1. Avoid insulting and threatening others.
2. Refrain from endangering the health of others through bogus diet/medical advice.
3. Avoid taking the Lord's name in vain constantly and over trivial matters.
4. Avoid lying.

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Truth is indestructible.

Cloaking yourself in Christianity with every false, misleading, and irresponsible utterance is
hardly the way to truth or salvation. That behavior is what is being criticized.

Clear now, Genius?

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Humble servant of Christ,

Baloney.

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Andrew

Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

Bob Pastorio <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

There is only one kind of christianity and this is defined by people accepting Jesus Christ as
their Lord and Savior.

Sorry

Yes, you are.

Oh, look. Chung is taking us back to those wonderful grade school days of insults formed from
juvenile wordplay. How perfectly trailer park of him.

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that this isn't a truthful statement from Chung.

If that were true, it should be easy for you to prove it.

I did in the next sentence that disputed what Chung said about who defined Christianity. "Jesus said
what christianity is."

He very stupidly said "There is only one kind of christianity and this is defined by people
accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior."

And yet, the only person I've seen promoting that Christ-Lite version of a complex religious body is
Chung and his obverse, "John." It seems, de facto, that there is more than one kind of christianity
beginning with the empty and abbreviated version Chung constantly embarrasses himself with. It
proceeds on up to theologically developed and intelligently explained philosophical and ethical
exposition as offered by more reflective writers as found in the major groups of christians
worldwide.

Only wacko southern fundamentalist "christians" have such a shallow and simplistic understanding
of what Jesus offered. Only a lightweight unable to actually consider how difficult the
Christlike life truly is in a world of pressures and hardships would believe in as infantile a
vision of what the sermon on the mount means as Chung. He obviously dismisses Jesus' words and
ignores the true meanings.

Only people too caught up in their own egotism could believe that striving to be Christlike is easy,
based on one small passage in a voluminous book, and demands no actions and restraints.

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Jesus said what christianity is.

Yes, He has.

Um, yes, he did.

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From John 14:

6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except
through me..."

And once again, Chung the dissembler posts a non sequitur as though it were topical. If this is what
Chung thinks fully defines one of the great religions of the world, how sad is his shortness of
vision. How deeply he disrespects Jesus and his thoughts.

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You remain in my prayers, neighbor.

I'll take my chances with my own.

Pastorio

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:27:10 -0500, Steve wrote
(in message <[email hidden]>😉:

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For the record, I don't care Jack if you are a Born Again Christian, a Born Again Muslim, a Born
Again Jew, or a Born Again Atheist. I just want you to park it in one of the alt.religion groups.

... or perhaps I should follow your malicious example and cross-post to some of these groups "for
your convenience".

(Note to those not familiar with Chung-tactics: it is a common Chung-tactic to google his critics
and then cross-post to any other group to which they post "for their convenience". For example:

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FYI Note: Because the author of the message is a rec.food.cooking subscriber (per Google), I have
added RFC for his convenience.

See

google.comgroupsOpen ↗ off&ie=ISO-8859-
1&as_ugroup=sci.med.cardiology&as_uauthors=chung%20&lr=&hl=en

for many other examples.

I leave it to the reader to judge if the motive is "convience" as the Great Truthful One claims)

--
"Beware of practicing your piety before men in order to be seen by them; for then you will have no
reward from your Father who is in heaven." (Mat 6:1)

Steve

Only 12 more Witnessing Days in 2003!