counting calories well counting carbs

good luck with your chosen path, let us know how it goes, Lee
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anyone ever tried counting their carbs, or eatting low carbs. I am trying it. this will be my
first full week. I have tried it half heartedly but am going all out. i was on ww before for
six months infact. and lost 30 lbs i gained 5lbs and want to lose that and another 10lbs. i'm
hoping that

eating

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low cal and low carb will help. i will be joining the gym on sat and will then be starting to lift
weights and do more cardio. i am hoping to be at

my

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goal weight by jan 1 or sometime after.

angie

I've been on WW forever. In an attempt to make a difference, I cut out carbs (sorta) too. It didn't
work, and now that I've reintroduced them, I feel a whole lot better.

--
krys

UK 157/135.6/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 struggling now.......

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anyone ever tried counting their carbs, or eatting low carbs. I am trying it. this will be my
first full week. I have tried it half heartedly but am going all out. i was on ww before for
six months infact. and lost 30 lbs i gained 5lbs and want to lose that and another 10lbs. i'm
hoping that

eating

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low cal and low carb will help. i will be joining the gym on sat and will then be starting to lift
weights and do more cardio. i am hoping to be at

my

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goal weight by jan 1 or sometime after.

angie

I am not a fan of low carb. I find McDougall a little radical too. I think somewhere in between is a
good place to be. There is an interesting article here:
nealhendrickson.com031100.htmOpen ↗ click the link under 'meathead' to view the
whole article.
--
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anyone ever tried counting their carbs, or eatting low carbs. I am trying it. this will be my
first full week. I have tried it half heartedly but am going all out. i was on ww before for
six months infact. and lost 30 lbs i gained 5lbs and want to lose that and another 10lbs. i'm
hoping that

eating

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low cal and low carb will help. i will be joining the gym on sat and will then be starting to lift
weights and do more cardio. i am hoping to be at

my

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goal weight by jan 1 or sometime after.

angie

Hi Angie,

I actually tried it a few months ago and had the worst headache for 2 days straight and thought,
enough of this! I was fine after my bowl of cereal the next morning.

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anyone ever tried counting their carbs, or eatting low carbs. I am trying it. this will be my
first full week. I have tried it half heartedly but am going all out. i was on ww before for
six months infact. and lost 30 lbs i gained 5lbs and want to lose that and another 10lbs. i'm
hoping that

eating

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low cal and low carb will help. i will be joining the gym on sat and will then be starting to lift
weights and do more cardio. i am hoping to be at

my

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goal weight by jan 1 or sometime after.

angie

Angie,

I tried going low carb two days a week for two weeks and just about went nuts. By 7:00 each of those
nights I was crabby and hungry and just couldn't get enough to eat.

Good luck to you--I hope you have more success than I did!!!

--
Janice
263/256.25/150 (maybe 130)

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anyone ever tried counting their carbs, or eatting low carbs. I am trying it. this will be my
first full week. I have tried it half heartedly but am going all out. i was on ww before for
six months infact. and lost 30 lbs i gained 5lbs and want to lose that and another 10lbs. i'm
hoping that

eating

Quoted message said:

low cal and low carb will help. i will be joining the gym on sat and will then be starting to lift
weights and do more cardio. i am hoping to be at

my

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goal weight by jan 1 or sometime after.

angie

i'm cutting my carbs slowly nothing to drastict right now. i am hopefully going to buy the atkins
book this weekend and start to follow it. i have been doing lots of research on it and am going to
go to my doctor and get all checked out and what not before i start. i have a few slight side
affects, but nothing mager i'll get used to the new way of eating in no time

angie "krys" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
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I've been on WW forever. In an attempt to make a difference, I cut out carbs (sorta) too. It
didn't work, and now that I've reintroduced them, I feel a whole lot better.

--
krys

UK 157/135.6/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 struggling now.......

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anyone ever tried counting their carbs, or eatting low carbs. I am

trying

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it. this will be my first full week. I have tried it half heartedly but

am

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going all out. i was on ww before for six months infact. and lost 30 lbs

i

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gained 5lbs and want to lose that and another 10lbs. i'm hoping that

eating

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low cal and low carb will help. i will be joining the gym on sat and

will

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then be starting to lift weights and do more cardio. i am hoping to be

at

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my

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goal weight by jan 1 or sometime after.

angie

that is great thing about WW we can experiment with types of food, schedule
of eating and amount eaten at a sitting until we find what works for us and
within the bounds of WW we are never hurting our health, Lee
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I've been on WW forever. In an attempt to make a difference, I cut out carbs (sorta) too. It
didn't work, and now that I've reintroduced them, I feel a whole lot better.

--
krys

UK 157/135.6/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 struggling now.......

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anyone ever tried counting their carbs, or eatting low carbs. I am

trying

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it. this will be my first full week. I have tried it half heartedly but

am

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

going all out. i was on ww before for six months infact. and lost 30 lbs

i

Quoted message said:

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gained 5lbs and want to lose that and another 10lbs. i'm hoping that

eating

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low cal and low carb will help. i will be joining the gym on sat and

will

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then be starting to lift weights and do more cardio. i am hoping to be

at

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my

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goal weight by jan 1 or sometime after.

angie

The thing I don't understand about the people who are proponents of radical diets, is how they can
overlook the genetic predisposition inherant in different people. I can understand that McDougall
gets ill when he eats meat. So why can't he get that I Get ill on a pure vegetarian diet? I am
really into "clean" food and animal rights. But I literally get sick after a few months on a
vegetarian diet. I get weak, begin to catch things.... I am very careful with the types of protein I
eat, but I do eat it. And have found the diet that works for my particular body. They totally
overlook the evidence that different cultures thrive on different diets, the extreme being the
eskimos diet, and say a pueblo indians diet. And the illness that overtakes those people when for
some reason or other another diet is introduced.

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I am not a fan of low carb. I find McDougall a little radical too. I

think

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somewhere in between is a good place to be. There is an interesting

article

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here: nealhendrickson.com031100.htmOpen ↗ click the link under 'meathead' to view
the whole article.
--
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anyone ever tried counting their carbs, or eatting low carbs. I am

trying

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it. this will be my first full week. I have tried it half heartedly but

am

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going all out. i was on ww before for six months infact. and lost 30 lbs

i

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gained 5lbs and want to lose that and another 10lbs. i'm hoping that

eating

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low cal and low carb will help. i will be joining the gym on sat and

will

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then be starting to lift weights and do more cardio. i am hoping to be

at

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my

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goal weight by jan 1 or sometime after.

angie

yes, we have to keep trying and find out which works better, i will do the
same,
Sara.
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I've been on WW forever. In an attempt to make a difference, I cut out carbs (sorta) too. It
didn't work, and now that I've reintroduced them, I feel a whole lot better.

--
krys

UK 157/135.6/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 struggling now.......

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anyone ever tried counting their carbs, or eatting low carbs. I am

trying

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Quoted message said:

it. this will be my first full week. I have tried it half heartedly but

am

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

going all out. i was on ww before for six months infact. and lost 30 lbs

i

Quoted message said:

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gained 5lbs and want to lose that and another 10lbs. i'm hoping that

eating

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low cal and low carb will help. i will be joining the gym on sat and

will

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then be starting to lift weights and do more cardio. i am hoping to be

at

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my

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goal weight by jan 1 or sometime after.

angie

janice

i'm on day 2 of atkins and so far so good. the true test however will be tonight when i go to work.
and there's all those donuts to eat and other thins. i have only eaten 8 grams of carbs so far
today. but my day is also just beginning. i hear that the fist four days are the hardest. if that is
the case i only have 2 more to go. what type of diet are you following now. and how have u been
doing? i was on weight watchers before this and i had lost 30lbs. but have gained 5lbs of them back
and now want to try and lose 20lbs more to bring me down to 110lbs. i am going to do it safely and
carefully thanks for the good luck wishes i will need them angie "Janice Kennish"
<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jcUyb.357$_M.6568@attbi_s54...

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Angie,

I tried going low carb two days a week for two weeks and just about went nuts. By 7:00 each of
those nights I was crabby and hungry and just couldn't get enough to eat.

Good luck to you--I hope you have more success than I did!!!

--
Janice
263/256.25/150 (maybe 130)

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anyone ever tried counting their carbs, or eatting low carbs. I am

trying

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

it. this will be my first full week. I have tried it half heartedly but

am

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

going all out. i was on ww before for six months infact. and lost 30 lbs

i

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

gained 5lbs and want to lose that and another 10lbs. i'm hoping that

eating

Quoted message said:

low cal and low carb will help. i will be joining the gym on sat and

will

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

then be starting to lift weights and do more cardio. i am hoping to be

at

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my

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goal weight by jan 1 or sometime after.

angie

Excellent points. I know I have mentioned it but saw this friend at Thanksgiving. His naturopathic
doc told him to eat meat, chicken and fish since he was literally failing to thrive as a vegetarian
- his muscles were wasting and he needed animal protein - vegetable sources just did not cut it.

We, humans, were originally designed as omnivores - plant and animal foods. I won't object to
someone being one or the other if it works for them.

Lesanne said:

The thing I don't understand about the people who are proponents of radical diets, is how they can
overlook the genetic predisposition inherant in different people. I can understand that McDougall
gets ill when he eats meat. So why can't he get that I Get ill on a pure vegetarian diet? I am
really into "clean" food and animal rights. But I literally get sick after a few months on a
vegetarian diet. I get weak, begin to catch things.... I am very careful with the types of protein
I eat, but I do eat it. And have found the diet that works for my particular body. They totally
overlook the evidence that different cultures thrive on different diets, the extreme being the
eskimos diet, and say a pueblo indians diet. And the illness that overtakes those people when for
some reason or other another diet is introduced.

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I am not a fan of low carb. I find McDougall a little radical too. I

think

Quoted message said:

somewhere in between is a good place to be. There is an interesting

article

Quoted message said:

here: nealhendrickson.com031100.htmOpen ↗ click the link under 'meathead' to view
the whole article.
--
SuzyQ Weight 124 WW Lifetime Membership Feb 03

"Anglea Woollcombe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

anyone ever tried counting their carbs, or eatting low carbs. I am

trying

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

it. this will be my first full week. I have tried it half heartedly but

am

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

going all out. i was on ww before for six months infact. and lost 30 lbs

i

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

gained 5lbs and want to lose that and another 10lbs. i'm hoping that

eating

Quoted message said:

low cal and low carb will help. i will be joining the gym on sat and

will

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

then be starting to lift weights and do more cardio. i am hoping to be

at

Quoted message said:

my

Quoted message said:

goal weight by jan 1 or sometime after.

angie

I just found - 20/20 hindsight - that my body wasn't happy with the lack of carbs. My mum (not a WW)
has cut back on carbs and had some success (but then she would, since cutting back on anything
reduces intake). My friend tried Atkins for a week - her asthma got suddenly worse, and she ended up
with palpitations - and was advised to stop. Different folks different strokes.

The thing that gets me about Atkins is how sustainable it is in in the longterm. What I love about
WW is that it's a proper WOL - a sensible balanced healthy diet - to be maintained. I'm not sure
that Atkins can say the same thing. Though I'm not denying it would appear to be great in the
short term.

Furthermore - knowing the points of things as I now do - I would find it incredibly difficult
mentally to eat all those fats and so on.....it would just go totally against the ingrained grain.

--
krys

UK 157/135.6/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 struggling now.......

"Anglea Woollcombe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

i'm cutting my carbs slowly nothing to drastict right now. i am hopefully going to buy the atkins
book this weekend and start to follow it. i have been doing lots of research on it and am going to
go to my doctor and get all checked out and what not before i start. i have a few slight side
affects, but nothing mager i'll get used to the new way of eating in no

time

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angie

Angie,

I was following Richard Simmons Foodmover program and while during that lost 3 3/4 pounds and 7
inches in a month--the best I've done. Monday I changed to WW to try the flex points because while
RS works I thought I might have a little more flexibility with WW. What I'm finding is I'm not
staying within the points and I'm having a hard time following it because I have the flexibility and
seem to take advantage of that. It's only been 2 days so I'm going to give it the rest of the week
but I may go back to RS, I seem to follow it better. It's also a bit harder because I don't know the
points for things and have had to guess at a lot of them.

Good luck with Atkins--I'm interested to know how you do!!!

--
Janice
263/256.25/150 (maybe 130)

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janice

i'm on day 2 of atkins and so far so good. the true test however will be tonight when i go to
work. and there's all those donuts to eat and other thins. i have only eaten 8 grams of carbs so
far today. but my day is

also

Quoted message said:

just beginning. i hear that the fist four days are the hardest. if that is the case i only have 2
more to go. what type of diet are you following now. and how have u been doing? i

was

Quoted message said:

on weight watchers before this and i had lost 30lbs. but have gained 5lbs

of

Quoted message said:

them back and now want to try and lose 20lbs more to bring me down to 110lbs. i am going to do it
safely and carefully thanks for the good luck wishes i will need them angie "Janice Kennish"
<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jcUyb.357$_M.6568@attbi_s54...

Quoted message said:

Angie,

I tried going low carb two days a week for two weeks and just about went nuts. By 7:00 each of
those nights I was crabby and hungry and just couldn't get enough to eat.

Good luck to you--I hope you have more success than I did!!!

--
Janice
263/256.25/150 (maybe 130)

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anyone ever tried counting their carbs, or eatting low carbs. I am

trying

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

it. this will be my first full week. I have tried it half heartedly

but

Quoted message said:

am

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

going all out. i was on ww before for six months infact. and lost 30

lbs

Quoted message said:

i

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

gained 5lbs and want to lose that and another 10lbs. i'm hoping that

eating

Quoted message said:

low cal and low carb will help. i will be joining the gym on sat and

will

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

then be starting to lift weights and do more cardio. i am hoping to be

at

Quoted message said:

my

Quoted message said:

goal weight by jan 1 or sometime after.

angie

I know a vegan who is one of the healthiest people I have ever met. She is a pear shaped short lady,
genetically a mutt. A little of this, a little of that. She thrives on her diet, which she mostly
makes herself, including wheat, legumes, fruits and vegetables, including avocados and corn daily.
Never gets ill, so energetic it amazes me. I tried to copy her and went all washed out and sick
within about 2 months, which is about as long as it takes ....

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Excellent points. I know I have mentioned it but saw this friend at Thanksgiving. His naturopathic
doc told him to eat meat, chicken and fish since he was literally failing to thrive as a
vegetarian - his muscles were wasting and he needed animal protein - vegetable sources just did
not cut it.

We, humans, were originally designed as omnivores - plant and animal foods. I won't object to
someone being one or the other if it works for them.

Lesanne said:

The thing I don't understand about the people who are proponents of

radical

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

diets, is how they can overlook the genetic predisposition inherant in different people. I can
understand that McDougall gets ill when he eats meat. So why can't he get that I Get ill on a
pure vegetarian diet? I

am

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

really into "clean" food and animal rights. But I literally get sick

after

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

a few months on a vegetarian diet. I get weak, begin to catch things....

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

am very careful with the types of protein I eat, but I do eat it. And

have

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

found the diet that works for my particular body. They totally overlook

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

evidence that different cultures thrive on different diets, the extreme being the eskimos diet,
and say a pueblo indians diet. And the illness

that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

overtakes those people when for some reason or other another diet is introduced.

"SuzyQ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I am not a fan of low carb. I find McDougall a little radical too. I

think

Quoted message said:

somewhere in between is a good place to be. There is an interesting

article

Quoted message said:

here: nealhendrickson.com031100.htmOpen ↗ click the link under 'meathead' to
view the whole article.
--
SuzyQ Weight 124 WW Lifetime Membership Feb 03

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> anyone ever tried counting their carbs, or eatting low carbs. I am

trying

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> it. this will be my first full week. I have tried it half heartedly

but

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Quoted message said:

am

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> going all out. i was on ww before for six months infact. and lost 30

lbs

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

i

Quoted message said:

> gained 5lbs and want to lose that and another 10lbs. i'm hoping that
eating
> low cal and low carb will help. i will be joining the gym on sat and

will

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> then be starting to lift weights and do more cardio. i am hoping to

be

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

at

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my
> goal weight by jan 1 or sometime after.
>
> angie
>
>
>

I agree with you about Atkins. I found it just did not work long term for me and it did not work for
my exercise pattern - no carbs in the early morning left me dragging - no can do

krys said:

I just found - 20/20 hindsight - that my body wasn't happy with the lack of carbs. My mum (not a
WW) has cut back on carbs and had some success (but then she would, since cutting back on anything
reduces intake). My friend tried Atkins for a week - her asthma got suddenly worse, and she ended
up with palpitations - and was advised to stop. Different folks different strokes.

The thing that gets me about Atkins is how sustainable it is in in the longterm. What I love about
WW is that it's a proper WOL - a sensible balanced healthy diet - to be maintained. I'm not sure
that Atkins can say the same thing. Though I'm not denying it would appear to be great in the
short term.

Furthermore - knowing the points of things as I now do - I would find it incredibly difficult
mentally to eat all those fats and so on.....it would just go totally against the ingrained grain.