The Thread about Nothing....

classic1 said:

Oh poor essendon. Wah wah waaaaaah.
Here's a tip [censored]. Don't take dope in secret then play [censored] dumb.
Think of the vilification in the media Mark French copped. .

Ha, yeah, it's like they've never EVER heard of any young athlete getting banned for 2 to 4 years, no matter how the dope got in them.
However, I still feel a bit sorry for some the young dopey Bombers

VadarStrikesBack said:

Surprised no one on here commented on the passing of Mark Gunter last year (I may have missed it though). That was a real shame.

Hmm, it might've been. I remember reading it somewhere.

Anyone following the Dakar? Toby Price (AUS) has a 24 minute lead in the bikes after Stage 9.

Farkkkk.... llllooollll.....

classic1 said:

Hinault. Cortisone and testosterone. At least when he was at Renault. Maybe not when at La Vie Claire.

Fignon. Cortisone and amphetamine, the latter in training at least. The theory goes if you have a clout in training you can train harder.

This is why I get [censored] on the heads in the sand AFL fans who say 'oh (insert drugbag player here) wasn't taking stuff on game day. Ice and coke are only "recreational"'.

There was more too it back then. If marathon runners were on blood transfusions in 1971, do you really believe that it hadn't meandered to cycling by then? Even Merckx said he refused a blood transfusion for his hour record. What Fignon did in his last win, especially in the TT was incredible, I recall the quote "I only shifted down from the 12 on the hill because I thought I should." Millar's tale of being passed by him during the warm up for that TT and he and a half dozen others couldn't even do form a chain gang and keep Fignon in sight maybe puts things into perspective.

Even from the late 1800's, cycling has been a dirty sport. That the drugs them were stupidly lethal just shows "more commitment" 😉

paulambry said:

Hinault was the last great rider who you can say to yourself "that was all him, no help". Maybe Fignon too. Only maybe though. So my line is at Hinault. Therafter, I assume every performance was augmented.

As much as I'd really like to agree with you, I'd say you were about a decade and a half too late. The US Olympic Team blood doped en masse for the the 84 games in a hotel room for Christs sake. The science behind transfusions starting almost 50 years prior to that. Kaarlo Maaninka admitted to blood doping for the 1980 Olympics. Merckx admitted to "not takeing a blood bag" for his hour record. Zoetemelk said he did it for "health reasons" during his Tour win in 1980.

Throw a dart at the calander of the 20th Century and that's believe that's when doping really began being effective.

I'm at the point where I don't care. Draw the line at now. Nail any dumb cnut that dares to dope from Jan 1st 2016 on a cross and tell him his career is done.

Going back in time doesn't do any good. Spend all the money on going forward. Make decisions within a reasonable time (12 months tops) and make the penalties harsh.

We're they blood doping in the 70s? No doubt. Was it prevalent? I doubt it. The back up support wasn't there. Ricco nearly killed himself doing it himself only a few years ago. Would have even been more basic and difficult in the 70s

I know of an Aussie pro who tried it in the 70s, reckoned it was like a rocket up his [censored], but only did it once. Lasse Viren definitely did in athletics. So did Zoetemelk. Moser too for the hour. Probably did for Milan Sanremo and maybe one bag in the giro as well. The rumors of Gaston Nencini blood doping are apparently [censored]. The rumors around anquetil likely true.

Fignon in 83? I don't think so, just a gut feeling. He was a bit special when he was on form and healthy and he was pretty candid about his other doping. Why lie?

Hey OzMan, do you watch Guitar Gods and Masterpieces? Just watched it, not bad but the presenter is a bit odd.

Hey Ma,am I reading the Dakar results correctly... Toby won the last three stages (and from the front too!)??

Oh, and yeah, I'll have one of those trucks too.

swampy1970 said:

As much as I'd really like to agree with you...

Sure.... but wot Classic done rote.

matagi said:

Hey OzMan, do you watch Guitar Gods and Masterpieces? Just watched it, not bad but the presenter is a bit odd.

ha, yep the guy is a bit weird. I've seen a few episodes, but I don't make a point of watching it.
There's better stuff on Youtube

531Aussie said:

ha, yep the guy is a bit weird. I've seen a few episodes, but I don't make a point of watching it.
There's better stuff on Youtube

I was just channel surfing waiting for the change to hit so I could open up the house before going to bed. There was a guy playing acoustic towards the end that I'd like to hear more of but I didn't take note of his name. Might go check out YouTube and see if I can find him.

Oh yeah, and apparently Black Sabbath are touring this year - blast from the past, or what?

paulambry said:

Hey Ma,am I reading the Dakar results correctly... Toby won the last three stages (and from the front too!)??

Oh, and yeah, I'll have one of those trucks too.

Yeah, Toby is doing really well. He was 3rd last year, navigation is his biggest problem - apparently he's [censored] at it but he's doing ok so far.

From what I've read, he's doing REALLY well. Apparently if you start from the front, you're the mug who has to do all the navigation whilte trying to stay ahead of the pack. So to pick up the two last stages off the front is really good going. Clearly he's done his homework on navigating.

Anyone got a pick for the TdU?

Mine's Cameron Myer.

If the wind keeps up like today here in Adelaide.... Bobridge!

Ballarat the other day was just like Perth (where Bobbers lives/trains) - Farkin warm. Windy. Sunny. And he won.

So my money is on Dennis. lols.

DPF - Alan Rickman 69 cancer.

There seems to be a trend developing.

Hell. No. These young men.

Hey Ma, Toby's dad was interviewed on Radio National this morning.

paulambry said:

Hey Ma, Toby's dad was interviewed on Radio National this morning.

Really? I wish I'd known.